"the car is an extension of you, you are your own limit. " That's pretty concise description about why driving older cars is so much fun.

I've owned both, a '95 993 and ("upgraded" in '11) to a 997.2 Turbo S. Kept both for a while but eventually let the 993 go. The cars are two different animals and really can't be compared. I appreciate the comfort and amenities of the Turbo S but miss the visceral feel of the air-cooled manual. the 4wd Turbo is a no-brainer to drive while the 993 takes some "attention" to its eccentricities. The lines and look of the 993 will never be exceeded. The new 911's are too big!

Both truly great cars in their own way..Lucky Man having both.Rawness Vs Refinement

Great video! The 993 4S is by far the nicest looking sports car. It is simply gorgeous!!! Yes is doesn’t have the technology or speed (of the turbos) of the newer ones but I think it’s simply perfect. They all start getting too big after this era.

Solid review, honest and raw to the bones account ! I've just bought a 2012 Targa 4s and I did appreciate your views on the 997.2👍

Older one looks so much better...Love it. One lucky guy

I absolutely LOVE my 2011 997.2 4S. I’ve rolled over 7k km on it in 2 months. It’s amazing. Love your channel brother!

Thanks for the honest comparison! Wonderful to have the best of both worlds! Count yourself lucky Jacob! Always enjoy your vids👍🏻

Enjoyed the comparison. That 993 as you put it, just sounds raw and exciting

My two favorite Porsches... glad to see someone out there is living out my dream haha!

Every time I open my garage door and see my 997.2 I think wow, this is just the best 911 design ever... but I have to tell you man, that 993! Damn fine looking car my friend.

Wonderful review, one of the best. You inspire me to purchase an older 911, currently own a Cayman , this review will help me research the perfect 993 for me, thanks

Love your car! Great video. I could never sell my 993, timeless and un-replaceable 😊

Porsche Carrera 3.2 1988 has still the best design of all the 911’s til today great video 993 for me because the air cooled engine 😊

I have a 1997 993 and also added the RS short throw kit and the golden rod thing, the modification really improved the transmission feel and made the gear change feel much tighter and more direct.

I've been considering the PDK option and have heard a lot of talk about the Sport Chrono package being a must have with the PDK. Great video, now I know the sport wheel is a must. That was one of the things holding me back, those shift buttons that come on the multi-function wheel.

Spot on review man ! I have the 997.2 also. Even for a daily driver it’s always still special to get into and drive. Love the 993 though. Very much thought I could relate to your approach. Have seen a lot of bad reviews on these cars so refreshing to hear a balanced and passionate take on them . Happy trails ! All the best from the uk

Great Vid, appreciate your insights. I have 2010 992.2 PDK and this is my daily drive. Owned it for 4 years and its been perfect. I also have a 1990 964 C4 and that is a weekend spin car. This was my first Porsche and had that for 8 years. Love that - super raw and always puts a smile on my face. I do love the look of the 993, especially in the wide body 4S. Would love to add this car to the garage. - they are getting super expensive now so that’s likely to remain a dream. Stay well.

Great video.. love your 993! I just bought an 08 997 that Im getting aquainted with and love but really wanted a 993.. cheers!

Great review Jakob...always enjoy your laid back approach. As you know I have a black garage Queen 993 S and have been considering either a 996 or 997 for a daily. 👍

Great review and video. Thanks!

Great comparison, enjoyed the new video. I drive the same color 997 and love it. The 993 is an amazing machine as well. Fun to see the differences, thanks!

I also own a 993. I concur with all your positive comments. My one slight issue is with your comment about being cautious about the rear weight bias more than you would in a newer 911. I drive a 991 GT3 Cup car on track, and have owned 15 or so street 911’s over the years. I’ve gotta say the 993 is as planted in the turns as any modern 911 I’ve owned. Maybe not quite as planted as my 981 Spyder. 😉. My 993 suspension is ROW, BTW.

Great comparison. I own a 997.2 C4S manual and currently searching for a 993. Everything you mentioned bout the 997.2 is accurate. Driving in sport mode is almost a must unless you’re in traffic which you prob shouldn’t be but I know some folks daily their cars.

Good Vid .... I considered both prior to my purchase of a 997.1 C4s with stick and I just felt the natural progression of the car made it a better fit for me as my primarily weekend drive. The 997.1 & 2's are just really good bang for the buck and icing on the cake are the wide bodied ones .... They look sooo good ... Now that I have and experienced the 997 regularly which I love ... I now NEED 993 now to properly round off my driving urges :) The reality is you need both ......

great video! i have a 997.2 4S but always wondered what the 993 was like!

993 is pure class. I'm evaluating a 993 C4S in your exact spec, hope is passes the PPI and I can bring it home!

Liked your review. It confirmed my thinking. I owned a '73 911S Targa back in the late 70's and thought the modern 993 version of the air-cooled 911 would maintain much of the raw driver's feel and interior noise of the earlier 911. After looking at 996/997's for a couple of years, I went with a 2011 Carrera GTS 6-speed. I've had dedicated race cars before and knew going into it that this would be a daily driver and for fun cruises with the wife. It had to be something comfortable that you could drive in for several hours. I've been using it as a daily driver for over 4 years now and have put over 50k miles on it. No garage queen for me. :) It has factory sport exhaust and Sharkwerks center bypass. Sounds pretty good and girgles a bit on decel.

Great video, I feel like I have the best of both cars w my 997.1 C4s manual… Looks wise tho the 993 will always be my favorite…

Great review comparing the two. Awesome cars!

awesome video! just found your channel and subscribed. where are these roads exactly that are your favourite to drive your 911s?

Great review Jacob, really enjoyed it.

Thanks for this Jacob. I have a lovely 3.2 that is similar to the 993 and am looking for a 997.2 like yours. Interesting to hear your thoughts on the pdk from 2011. Also, probably nice to have one manual and one pdk for the collection. Cheers from New Brunswick

Thank for the a great video. The 993 wide body just looks amazing. The rear end just looks absolutely gorgeous ❤️. The 997.2 not nearly as pretty, nor does it sound as beautiful.

Top review thanks 👍

cool video, just joined your channel. I have a 991.1 C4 GTS which is PDK ... great car and a 996 C4S Manual so pretty much on a par which you have just a model newer. I find the 996 a very raw experience both great in their own way.

I have a 997.1 S cab with a fabspeed air intake installed. Improves the sound greatly. Especially above 5,500 rpms!

I have a 997.1 Turbo right now and want to pull the trigger on a 993 Carrera 4s like yours. I just hope I don't miss the power too much!

Hi Jakob. A really informative video. Thanks for putting it together. Loved the sounds from both cars and thought the chosen road was fun and scenic - felt like I was there. Such a choice you have these days: should I take the 993 or the 997.2 ?!?! The video shows you are having fun and really .... isn’t that the point!! Great job. Cheers from Round Rock!

This was fun. I have a ‘12 GTS (manual) that I love. I just joked (not really) that someday I want to have a 993 Cab manual...She laughed. Now to find that cash. The sound of the air-cooled on full boil is giggleishous. Need to get me some of that someday...Enjoy.

Thanks for your time & effort in presenting the comparison. I would appreciate your opinions on which will be a better choice as a fun weekend ride between a 718(S) Cayman vs 997.2, for a mid 50 professional bloke, whos currently drive Golf6 GTI daily. Thank you.

I still like the 993, the best porsche for me ✌️️

Great video. Sharkwerks bypass makes such a great difference, you won’t be disappointed and it’s very reasonably priced. I’m not too familiar with the exhaust system you mentioned but I’ll have to look into it. I still maintain that you should get some eibach lowering springs and spacers. I’ve been daily driving a B7 RS4 and I don’t find the PDK boring at all especially in sport plus, shifts are very quick. I was slightly concerned that after driving a manual car I’d be bored with my GTS. I still think that those who deride the PDK transmission haven’t really driven it. Just my opinion.

Wow just found your channel, huge Porsche fan. Looking at getting a 997 next year. Didn’t consider the 993 until now, could you comment on why you choose both in 4 wheel drive? Also what would the price be of a clean 993 avg price?

Great Video, love the shirt btw...

993 for me, my dream porsche. Someday I'm definitely going to ride on one.

The 997 is the 993 of the modern era 911’s. Pretty much all 911’s are great, so choose which one you like best and fits your budget :)

Good video, great t-shirt

Hi Jacob , loved this video, I have the 997.2 4S ... I agree with all you say. I needed more rawness, so I began tinkering , I put in both PSE and a Sharkwerks bypass pipe ( now sounds right), IPD plenum ( smoother fuel delivery and power response ), More solid engine mounts (RSS) and also transmission mounts for manual transmission (ECS F1, they make the car more rigid and turns in amazingly, it connects the driver) , Eibach springs ( lowers by about 10-15mm), along with the engine mounts make it sit and drive better, wheel spacers also, EVOMSsit tuning ( throttle response and feel is great, and much better power curve), better flowing air filter ( by AWE tuning, makes it breaths far better). It is now a much more raw experience , there is so much you can do to the 997.2 , and the changes are quite easily to make it into your own level of rawness, the car then becomes unique for you and will be a true keeper. The beauty is Porsche refined the 997.2 generation for the market and regulations, but you can make it raw with some easy tweaks. Your 993 is something else, loved this.

Greeting from your fellow Ontarian. Bought my 1st 987.1 just to get my feet wet and im now a porsche fanatic. I love the rear end of the wide body 993 but not the front end. Is there a wide body 964? Perfect 911 for me is one with 993 rear and 964 front end. Im aiming for a 997.1 or 997.2 in a year or 2. U just earned a new subscriber. 🙌🏼

Hey, I have a similar garage like you: 2009 C4S meteor grey and 1990 964. What did you do to your 993 to make it sound like that? Would love to get a similar exhaust sound in my 964.

Hi Jacob! Congrats - Very nice comparison of the two PORSCHES 8-) Did you also own(ed) a 964? I love this model very much - maybe you can make a video of this model or share your massive experience - would be 911% great! ;-) Thanks a lot and have always a nice and pleasureful ride! :-)

So, it's now Spring 2019, looking for a really good 997.2 Cabriolet PDK with reasonable Kms. What's an average decent price ?

Because you love them, you are going to be subjective without trying. Being objective is harder, and rightfully so with the awesome 911.

14:47.. 993 looks so wide and nice... its because of the beautiful step lipped wheels... wheels change everything..

i love 997 I'm with you its really more luxury and smoothing in high speed but i prefer (993) , aircooled is gold my friend

Very nice review... the 993 is definitely more engaging and that's the beauty of it. But to be honest, and in my opinion I find them overpriced at the moment vs 997 which are also fun to drive. My current weekend car is a 991.1 c2s which I enjoy a lot, however I don't mind adding a 997 to my Garage; I believe they are a steal at the moment.

I am into the market right now to get a 997.2, probably an S. I have driven a 964 extensively and a 993. I have also driven many times my buddies 997.1S. I can tell you one thing. No comparison, especially if you are going to daily drive the car. the 997 is more refined, the interior much better, handling is better and performance is much better. So a 997.2 S would in my mind be the clear winner, but I will reserve judgment until I get one myself. thank you for this video, very informative and helpful for my search.

Hi fellow Canadian here, I'm actually also in decision of to pick up a 993C2S or a 992 C2S😛

Mate, I got a question for you.. in my country, 993 C4S and 997.1 GT3 are selling at the same Price. Which one would you choose.. and why?

Good comment , greetings to Ontario from an old German who was living and screwing there on this cars😁

Enjoyed the review. Would love to see one on a modern GT car too.

Man, I really am in love with the 997.2 and will hopefully own one one day. But from the comparison, it seems it’s a little numb. I had a e46 M3 and I loved the way it drove. I’m starting to wonder if an older 911 is what I should be considering. Can anyone comment on their experience with an e46 M3 compared to any 911s? Either way, Jakob, thanks for giving the people what they want. And for giving me something more to think about. Looks like a pretty awesome automotive therapy route you got there. Love the content as always!

You’re website can’t be pulled up on my iPhone. Did you take it down?

What is your exhaust setup on the 993?

911%, if you could choose between the two what one would it be? (Not taking into consideration collectibility)

Well done ! Am Seriously considering either of the two and this video helps me. My problem is I’m 6’4 and weigh 270 pounds and the 993 might be too small

The RED ALERT light is constantly on. ?

997...you are the extension of the car.Well said👍👍😎😎😎. The 997 the most natural bridge between air cooled and 991. Had a 997 and 991. For me, 997 stick. Enjoyed this!👍👍😎😎

You should try a manual 997.2, but I do understand that as a daily you'd want a PDK.

Great comparison. Audio: you're recording way too hot and have tons of distortion. Be sure your recording level is set at no higher than -6 dB, and use normalization and compression. If you're not sure how to do that, search KZfaq for audacity voice over techniques (or Audition, if you have Adobe CC).

I am one of the rare people who can either backup (or refute) what is being said in this video because guess what, I too own a 1997 993 C2 (have own it since 2009) and ... LOL ... I also own a 2010 997.2 C2S (I have only owned it a little over a month now). Now the biggest difference between us is that my two 911s are both rear wheel drive cars while his two 911s are both all wheel drive. Oh and my daily driver is a Jeep Wrangler, not the 997. I am not planning on winter driving either of my 911s mainly because I am paranoid of being rear ended in snowy and icy conditions, plus my modified Wrangler is the bomb on snow and ice, especially deep snow. With all that said, I am in agreement with Jacob. My 993 is more engaging to drive than the 997. But without a doubt the 997 is faster and it turns better than the 993. But what makes the 993 more engaging than the 997 even when the 997 performs better? Part of it, is what Jacob says in his video. The 993 is air cooled and you have to experience an air cooled 911 to know why we like them. My 993 is also a 6 speed manual transmission (though it is rare for me to ever use 6th gear) and my 997 is also PDK (though I am still waiting for the paddle shifter wheel to arrive). But another reason why my 993 is more engaging than my 997 is because years ago I installed a FabSpeed performance exhaust on the 993 while the 997 still only has the stock exhaust and at low RPMs the sound of the 997 is rather boring and thus not as engaging to drive. I do plan on changing the exhaust, but not yet. So as far as engine sounds are concerned, it's not a fair apples to apples comparison. But the 993 is still more engaging because it has a more raw feel to everything about it. The 997 as awesome a performer it is, just lacks the raw feeling. Now I am not sure how many of us are out there? People who own both the 993 and the 997.2 at the same time and it is funny that there are at least two of us. I am sure we both bought the 997s for different reasons. Jacob plans on daily driving his while mine was picked up mainly to track at local DE open lapping track days. But yes Jacob's review is very much in line with my experiences with my own 993 and my 997. So I endorse this video. LOL

Both are great cars. 993 is million times better looking though.

Thanks for the great video we've been waiting for. I see the pros & cons of each cars and I think in order to get the best of both world I would choose the 993 and soup up the engine for more power. I know that would cost a fortune but wouldn't that be a super dream machine?

I have 993C4S from day one and the car still runs and looks good don't track it anymore ...did u get the CEL issue I thought everybody gets it?

The 997 looks great in grey. Looking forward to hearing the new exhaust on it✌

I would go with 993,but as a modern water cooled 911 the 997 is the sweet spot,stiil not to big and is better gt for longer trips

You're certainly right Jacob, the 993 is the best Porsche ever built.

Do they use Salt up in Canada?

Where was the video filed?

Great video! But you should probably get a new mic lol.

So Cool!! thanks for producing this comparison 993 - Last Air Cooled 911 997 last 911 built by independent Porsche before VW acquired the company. (Not that that's a bad thing, just a meaningful distinction in my opinion) You forgot to mention the difference in oil change routine in this video. The 993 is ridiculous compared to the 997. That's the only thing I really dislike about my 993, but not enough to really matter in the big picture. Really great vid Jakob!

Good comparison between a 1990s car and a 2011 car....can you post a comparison between a maybe a 996 and a Tesla?

But wait ...... Where did you get those sunglasses?

Please tell us the location of this shoot - your favourite stretch of road ... can't make out the Community Center name!

Realistically, the only debate between them has to be about style, because the 997 is better in every possible way than the 993-power, handling, reliability, comfort, convenience, technology, etc.

What a perfect compromise: the 997 is better for big city commuting and daily driving. Nobody should use the 993 ideally as a daily, as it is a collectors car. My opinion.

If you want rawness you should try out the GT3 , 9000 RPM scream

Great video but please don't confuse others by referring to the the 993 as having a "raw feel", the 993 is a highway cruiser compared to a 1972 911S. I've been lucky enough to own all the generations as my only car, daily drivers. Yes, I'm old.

River Rd?

Hi. How reliable are 911’s? Ive always wanted to have a 911, but can only afford a used one. What year should I look for? Hows the maintenance on these? Thanks.

Great video!! The 997 is an amazing daily and fun car to drive. The engine response is a huge positive. The negatives is the car is sort of numb compared to the 993. This makes you have to really push it to get a rush. Sound is not great and never will be inside. Outside it sounds decent with upgrades. Still quiet inside. Dont waste your money. I had x51 cf intake, awe headers, upgraded exhaust, and x pipe with 200 cats. Still was disappointed. Trust me nothing makes it sound good like the 993. FD exhaust rest stock in 993 is marvelous. Glad your enjoying your 997. Like most 911's they are great sports cars that can be used daily. The 997 was the last model that isnt a GT cruiser IMHO. The 991 to me became too refined and large. Looks wise the 991 is beautiful, but doesnt do it for me driving wise. The ugly duck 996 is similar that it is better driving wise than the 997. More raw = better experience for me. Sad to say that each model the 911 gets worse minus GTx models.

I have a 997.2 PDK.. The revs HAVE to be high to experience the quality of the transmission..

My dad is choosing between the 993 carrera 4s or the 997 turbo s i am always telling him To buy the 997 turbo s but man he is obsessed with the 993 😭

At 1:41 - you say that you are trying to be as 'subjective' as possible... :) The 993 is already a very evolved platform with modern suspension and modern transmission. For a truer 911 feel you need to go back to a G Series '86 or older.

Porsche 911 is my dream car. One day I will own one.

No question. 993. Buy the best you can afford, drive it hard, and watch it appreciate >10% a year with a smile on your face. I rather drive a slower car fast, than a faster car slow. Easy choice imho. )

Hey Jacob... Can You tell Me where these roads are?

The price of the 993 now is through the roof!

"I'll be as subjective as possible". Say what?