thats crazy. modern marketing ? why do they do it ?

@@akane742My guess: Porsche wanted to sell an ‘entry level’ car to a wider market without cannibalising the 911 market. The shared platform was a necessity as Porsche was in a bit of a financial pickle when the new 911 and Boxter were first developed. There simply wasn’t the money for different platforms. Please note that the ‘S’ variant Boxter is compared with the Carrera 911. The less expensive base Boxter has no 911 equivalent and the models above the Carrera don’t have Boxter equivalents. Porsche must have thought that they would get away with it and they did! 😁

​@@akane742 i would assume part of it is to get people onto the Porsche ownership bandwagon. That would also explain why they try to hide how good the cheaper cars are; the owners get to experience it and fall in love with the brand while those with a 911 can feel superior.

First of all, if you have the ability and resource to take apart a car why the hell are you acting like you just discovered fire when you found out that manufacturers nowadays share platforms, chassis, engine, tuning, or any parts. The 718 and 911 even share the same production line, back in the 996 and 986 era they even look the fucking same) In your philosophy, any Audi, Lexus, or BMW buyers other than the 3 series are idiots since they’re essentially based on platform from cheaper cars. (Mbq, tnga, klar…) Also if you ever drove those cars on the limit, you’ll soon realize that the 911 is a much more capable car than the 718 (base vs base, s vs s, gts vs gts). Not even getting into the options, don’t know if you’re aware that the base 718 doesn’t even come with an LSD. Of course, you can argue that we don’t drive a spec sheet. But most people just jump to the conclusion that the 718 drives better due to its smaller footprint, not even pushing. Even you do find it better to drive, there are still benefits of the rear engine layout. In terms of driving, the RR layout exaggerates your flaws. Any bad inputs can result in severe oversteer or understeer. Modern 911 can be a better teaching tool as oppose mid engine cars. Also, due to the rear biased weight distribution, you can load the brakes extra hard and trail brake deeper into a corner. And when you jump on the throttle the weight distribution gives you added traction(that’s also why the 992 turbo beats so much cars in quarter mile with “only” 650hp and 4wd). Not even mentioning the practicality, name a sports car platform that is capable of sub 7 nordschleife laptime and has usable rear seats. Nonetheless , the 911 has a much richer lineage and better image as oppose to the 718. Last, unlike other lineups (ferrari roma vs 812, mclaren 570 vs 720 .etc) To me there’s no clear hierarchy between the 718 and 911. It’s really just a matter of preference and taste (the fact that you can essentially option a 718 to the price of a 911.) Just think about it, if the 718 doesn’t have something superior to the 911 (might be it’s size or mid engine characteristics), what is the point of it existing when the world have the more capable and practical 911. Porsche surely can just make a cheaper 911. Ultimately, those are road cars, value to money or driving experience isn’t everything, even less when it comes to “premiums” like 911 and 718. Our choice of road cars is a combination of taste, value, driving experience, practicality .etc. Otherwise, we’ll all be driving around in caterhams, mx5s or RAV4 towing our radicals to the track. When your nit picking on a 911 or “luxury” product, you might as well just buy a Yaris.

@@991.2gt3 You are making the wrong comparisons. The Boxter S should be compared with the Carrera. They are almost identical which is much more than just sharing a platform. It’s like the VW Up!, Seat Mii and Skoda Citigo. They are also almost identical but their prices are also nearly the same. Similarly you could compare the Toyota Aygo, Citroen C1 and Peugeot 108. Almost identical cars at almost the same prices. The Carrera however is much more expensive than the Boxter S and that’s remarkable.

Funny, I did the same thing. I have a 2018 Cayman GTS (4cyl). I bought it CPO and was planning to get into a 992 within the next few years. My girlfriend actually has a 992 911s, and I’ve driven it handfuls of times. Never once do I get out of the 911 and think “damn, my cayman just is no match for it”. Other than a slightly better exhaust note, there really isn’t much I feel like I am missing to add to the price increase of nearly double. It surely isn’t double the car ….

You are so right - I bought my first Porsche- a 944 in 1984 - the same way. Ordered it in May and it showed up in January. Her name was Tricia and I kept the car until 2000. I’ve had a Macan, Cayenne and 2 911s since then - but none are as special as Trixie.

Then its got to be the fact that you can put 2 half size humans in the back of 911 they charge you double that of a 718​. Only thing justifiable for the price I guess@@amac8487

Lucky you, I can only afford the base Boxster, it struggles to drive up to a steep ramp but other than that I am very happy with it. Even if I had the money for a 911 I would still want a Boxster cause I hate the useless rear seats on the 911 and the lack of a trunk 😅

@@ozTomSawyer There's nothing base about a base Boxster. They're still true sportscars. The 'base' models set the already incredibly high standards and higher trims just add a bit more to it.

Hugh, thanks for the input, much appreciated. There's some great info in your comments. I was unaware of the 90x history behind the 981 design. It makes me look at my car in a very different way now. I'm very happy you fought for the different door design. It makes such a difference, and I've always thought the 'hourglass' shape that is pretty much seen from any angle, side, top, front, or rear, makes the car flow so well.

Hugh, I'd be really interested in getting into your head a bit more about the car's design. If you are happy with this, can you send me an email to the channel address so I can ask a few more questions. Address is jjrichar12@gmail.com Thanks Jeff

@@jeffrichardsoncardiy It was a great project to work on with a wonderful team - as a Porsche designer you get to work with top people in all the other disciplines....

@@jeffrichardsoncardiy Will do....

@@hughrobinson9978 New owner of 981 here. You described an amazing journey styling the 981! Everything you pushed for made this into a future classic. All the panels flow together and the continuous tapering of the panels into the side intakes makes a world of difference compared to prior generations. When you combine the tight packaging with the freedom to have a design line follow through from front to end you get the best Porsche design of all time in my view. Sure the Carrera GT and 918 look just as sharp, but they do so with more real estate. It's hard to get the presence of those cars without the wider footprint. 305 section tires fit under the 981 body while having a very narrow body so that we can enjoy them on narrow canyon roads and zip around town. I have the GTS, and the only area of improvement would be to have a 9,000 rpm 4.0 under the soft top. I don't want anything else from the 911, which in soft top form looks a bit like a bathtub by comparison.

Because the truth hurts…..some.

Same.

Because the algorithm knows you are interested in Porsche only

Bro nearly doubled his subs in 4 days!

True

Fools and their money…

Fools an their money are easily and quickly separated 🏎

WTF you get to the end of the video to drop the only thing that matters for new Porsche buyers….THE NEW 911 IS NOT ON THE SAME PLATFORM AS THE 718 CAYMAN!

There are substantial engineering differences between the cars though, the 911 is still the higher performance car, the engine sits lower for example. Its a minor mystery as to why the boxster/cayman didn't simply have its motor lowered an inch and a half, but largely its split between Porsche protecting the 911s status and the other car being engineered for a less sporting purpose. The cayman is more of a normal daily driver car with raw performance being less of a priority. Which is weird because not only is the 911 the smart man's sports car with a back seat and decent storage, a car that can actually be driven in the real world, but the cayman sacrifices that practicality for a traditional sportscars mid engine layout..... I know that dating all the way back to the first Porsche the engineers wanted a mid engine chassis, but other concerns pushed them to adapt VWs rear engine economy car layout. Then after decades of building a dedicated fan base, every attempt to move towards a fundamentally better layout caused a major backlash. The original Boxster wasn't an exception there. Imo, if they had the conviction, they could easily build a Cayman/boxster that cleanly beats the 911 in all metrics, and challenge the 911 elites to choose between tradition and winning.

@@DrewLSsixThey kind of already have admitted that the Cayman is the better platform. The 911 RSR switched to mid-engine in 2017

Same here!

Same here. Turned out to be the opposite of click bait.

Indeed!

Because all the 911 owners are getting together and hitting the dislike button! 😄

1 month later and just over 13k now. good growth ,i just found him to as was considering a boxster, but definitely sold on it now. great video

Mate, I have 987.2 Cayman S. I will never sell it. If I had room in the garage, I'd get a 987.2 Boxster S in a different colour. You going to love it.

Your welcome, and have a nice day.😁

Thanks Peter. I'm not sure if you saw my latest video, but the thumbnail photo was one of those suggestions from you car photography vid. Just in case you aren't able to recognise my intent, it was having the camera on the ground. Cheers Jeff

@@jeffrichardsoncardiy Oh, yes! I started watching it a few days ago, but got pulled away to something else. I must watch the rest. I didn’t register it at the time, but yes, I see the low-angle shot. 👍

I like your style. I can't part with the old girl as it holds a dear place in my heart. Both convertibles but completely different cars. I enjoy both of them.