No, Caterham crash viewed from a Porche GT2 on the Nurburgring! Clickbait alert!!!

In general the person who overtake are responsible of what he is doing, this is what they says at the briefing, even on that day they ask to overtake only by invitation, so that’s mean that the guy on front must put his turn indicator to show that he have seen the guy behind….not the case here 😮

​@@sebastianvittel74 Du hast vollkommen Recht. Zu viel sind leider im Rennmodus und gehen ein bisschen zu schnell davon aus dass sie gesehen wurden sind. Deswegen gilt nicht überholen, bei Trackday links oder rechts, solange man nicht 100% sicher ist dass man gesehen wurden ist. Ich sehe auch den Fehler bei den Porche der an der Stelle nicht hätte überholen dürfen da der Caterham nicht rechts geblinkt hat. Mann muss aber noch dazu sagen dass mann manchmal nur ein Bruchteil von Sekunden hat um so eine Entscheidung zu treffen. Hauptsache sind die Beteiligten nichts passiert .

​@@ariadnelecoutre9453no...look again. Tjere is a GT2 RS involved in the crash so look at the video. Vitell is drivning a 992 GT3 on the video and are not involed in the crash

@@MPPe46m3I agree 💯 that fraction of a second should always be spent on BREAKING!! This is NOT a race, it’s driving ON a race-track, big difference.

C A T E R H A M, simple.

You don’t overtake when safe on a track, if there’s an opening then you go for it. And if he saw the Porsche on the straight knowing he’s slower then it, should’ve hung out on the outside. Either way the Caterham is at fault

@@CHARLIE.S1K if its nurburgring track days then its basically a one way highway with similar rules.

@@CHARLIE.S1K Please stay away from the Nürburgring if you don't know anything about the rules. The GT2RS is completely at fault

@@CHARLIE.S1K no you don't overtake whenever there is a gap, this is why idiots like you cause accidents. It is a TRACK DAY, not a RACE event ... there is a difference. You are not setting laps, if you're not 100% sure then you don't overtake.

if they would, we Caterham drivers were always in front ;-)

Still not his fault.

his* mirrors

@@SurfinRacer It is his fault and his fault only.

@@MyRealName no, the guy who overtake him had the responsability the guy who upload the video say it

@@MyRealName You wish. I dont hope you got a drivers license. Your dangerous.

I agree. And most insurances do NOT cover you when in an accident. They will say it is a RACE TRACK. They say it is public road but it is bullshit.

That’s every track day. Very few, apart from those who’ve had genuine lessons can handle the cars they own to a high level. You need to crash multiple times to learn the limits and you just can’t do this on public roads, or even on track days. You only really learn the limits on proper training courses from other skilled drivers.

@@machohogan it's because "champions" like you that we have so many red flags on trackdays, too many crashes. Stupid mentality. You re not supposed to find your limits on trackdays. Normally there are rules to remind you to avoid that. And to be a really good driver either you start driving at 2 yo or it s still too late to understand the name of the game. Not my words, but Mika Hakkinen. And I totally agree with him.

Driving them on the limit is also very difficult in comparison to modern sportscars with (semi)automatic transmissions and driving aids (ABS, ESP, servo steering). Being aware of your surroundings while coordinating all the necessary manual inputs can be too much for amateurs.

@@syntheee You must know that before enter to the track. (Cool rhyme)

Open cockpit, can see everything. maybe just bad mirrors, so you have to TURN your head. No A pillars, no obstructions, wide open ; the best Visibility of most cars. most cars start to slow down at Antoniusbuche, at the compression. as they turn left; or is that Tiergarten Compression and then Hohenrain Schikane. the left turn in is Tiergarten ?

@@dafrasier1 In my opinion: Porsches fault! If you are in position to overtake at the first half of the straight, do it, the other car had enoughe time to respond! But on the last 100 meters it is a bad idea. Especialy to overtake a caterham, couse, they brake later and carry more speed through the corner. With a Porsche 700HP GT2RS MR you can overtake a 200HP Caterham on every straight at the Ring at the beginning on that straights!!! You only have to be a little patient to get a good spot. The Mirrors on a caterham are often flimsy and have vibrations. I have one of the very fastest Caterhams in Germany and this example here is one of the worst example to mess with normal fast sport cars. Thankfully nobody was hurt. In this section a collision can be very very fatal!

@@DaEVOthefreak Bias; bad mirrors, Fix the mirrors. stop making excuses for BAD equipment.

At 0:04 you must look at the cars in front of the manual porsche

@@LucasNitulescu21 yeah far away, only now cus you told me

If this would be a full on race like the VLN, i would say you are correct and it would be the fault of the caterham driver. BUT, this a touristenfahrten trackday and there are other rules. You are only allowed to overtake on the left side IF it is safe to do so and at that spot, overtaking is dangerous as the driving line is the line from the caterham and turns into the left where the porsche should not have been. So this is actually the fault of the porsche driving for ignoring the touristenfahrten rules.

It‘s the Porsche Track Precision app

by this fact the Porsche Driver should get a 2 year ban!

Manthey Racing

​@@mrstroph9042 it's not about the "mr" I think he knew what it means, I think he meant that it isn't gt2rs but gt3rs

Surely the overtaking car has to be certain before overtaking? Just watched Misha experience this (not this section) when a Ford Galaxy MPV cut across him, when he was overtaking in a VW Mk8 Golf GTI CS, despite the Ford indicating right. Perhaps the Caterham had a problem milliseconds prior to coming together?

This is a track day and that is a dangerous thing the Porsche driver was doing. Ive noticed guys seem to assume so much, its scary being on track around faster cars. For me its the Porsche who is at fault as the car in front maybe didnt see them.

@@leah_gtthat doesnt make them at fault they were crashed into

Caterham 100% at fault. If you are on the ring YOU are responsible for maintaining a safe view of your surroundings, and sticking to the right for faster traffic. If you're unable to do that for any reason, then stay away.

@@banterman This is a track day so you need to use more caution passing into corners vs true racing. The Porsche was overtaking and was not far enough ahead when they went into that apex. The Porsche should have realized he was not going to make the pass in time and backed off, but instead sent it so fast into the apex he drifted to the right once past the corner, so he probably would have hit the Caterham even if it stayed to the right. I would say the fault is 60% Porsche and 40% Caterham. The Caterham should have seen the Porsche and stayed far right but that may not have been enough - probably should have backed off too instead of racing to the apex.

In my opinion: Porsches fault! If you are in position to overtake at the first half of the straight, do it, the other car had enoughe time to respond! But on the last 100 meters it is a bad idea. Especialy to overtake a caterham, couse, they brake later and carry more speed through the corner. With a Porsche 700HP GT2RS MR you can overtake a 200HP Caterham on every straight at the Ring at the beginning on that straights!!! You only have to be a little patient to get a good spot. The Mirrors on a caterham are often flimsy and have vibrations. I have one of the very fastest Caterhams in Germany and this example here is one of the worst example to mess with normal fast sport cars. Thankfully nobody was hurt. In this section a collision can be very very fatal!

Porsche driver "could" not have waited for the indicator, he was "obliged by the rules" to wait for the indicator. You don't make up your own rules just because you have more HP under the belt.

100% porsche dummy.

It was overtaking, and could clearly anticipate the line the Caterham would take. Porsche driver's fault.

Even in races most drivers are not overtaking people at that spot, why should you do it at a trackday

Not factual. Many overtakes occur in that area as cars are accelerating. @@C42ST3N 08.08.19 Spin

Why? It is factually right.