I agree. Go Frank! He still looked angry when he announced the winners.

Frank was a nube.

completely skip the judges 'sitting' the subjects and more air time for artist works please...

It's interesting how the sitters chose completely different portraits. Their choices were better likenesses / work, but not as pretentious.

I agree with you

41:55 is such an immature statement that perfectly underlines what you said

@@reasonablyserious Yes. Exactly.

@@reasonablyserious I don't agree with your opinion. If you look at the discourse of painting through the decades and centuries, there has always been progressiveness that have defined new movements that speak to the times in which the works were made... The judge's statement about not rehashing the past and looking for something different needs to be considered in that context. We all have our subjective preferences in terms of style and aesthetic, and to judge work based on those subjective likes and dislikes, or even what the academy historically venerated, is what I'd consider immature... but the judges are obviously going beyond that to select people who bring something potentially new to the table, which is consistent with the historical discourse of painting, which makes the judging more objective. People seem to be upset that "traditional" and "realist" portraits weren't selected, as an indicator of some inherent bias the judges have... well, they did select Ewan and Louie from season 1 who made it to the finals, and their were was either traditional or realist... but if we look at "traditional" painting, say Manet, he broke the mold of his time, as did Vermeer, Goya or Courbet of their times etc. They were all pushing for something new, to not rehash the past. Even movements like 19th century "Realism" resisted painting as a tool for representing the rich and aristocratic, but instead started representing the average person, which in and of itself ran against the grain of what was considered "traditional" at the time. The point is, among the sea of painters that exist today, who should be venerated? The person who is doing what a lot of people can do, and hasn't brought anything new to the discourse of painting, or the person who has the potential to progress the discourse? Let's not forget that the Impressionists were rejected by the Salon, because their work was not considered to the standard of the academy... If the only painters that were venerated were painters that painted in some kind of 17th, 18th, or 19th academic style, painting would feel very redundant as it would not be a reflection of our current existence.

Because it is 4 hours... so they're looking at what they know as art experts to predict what will happen in the later stages of painting when they have more time.

It’s really very subjective. One person’s taste is not another persons taste. It’s astounding sometimes.

@@SGF1234 I dont think thats their thought process though. The point of the time limit is to make it more or less your final piece to be judged. Because as great of an artists these “experts” are. They dont have the ability to see nor judge the future. Who knows, maybe the ones that werent chosen couldve changed everything entirely in the next stages which would make it a lot “better”.

@@sungoddiss And a lot of the times ridiculous lol.

Right. It says that they aren't idiots who can only digest illustrations.

@@SGF1234 I beg to differ. The only one of them who is an artist is the male

@@robingagan6288 Soriano is a museum curator who has been director of exhibitions at the Royal Academy of Arts and at the National Portrait Gallery. Bryan is an art dealer. They have extensive experience looking at and evaluating art.

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@@robingagan6288 😆

exactly. It's realism not abstract

if you want realism just take a photo. its faster, cheaper and easier. painting IS about interpretation, if everyone painted the same exact image exactly the way they saw it, that'd be incredibly boring and pointless.

Each judge has said, they *are* looking for new ways of painting portraits. It's always been so.

When going into something like this you deal with what you have. You saying new judges would be like one of the artists saying the subject wasn’t the right one. Each opportunity is what it is. Non winners can often feel the work they did that day was far superior to any they had ever done. And for that one artist it’s a big win.

If the viewers of this episode agree the new judges are needed… It says some thing about the judges not actually choosing what appear to be the superior artworks

Totally agreed

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I agree full heartedly,

So true.

Charlie's piece looked 15 yrs older and 35 lbs heavier than the subject-geesh

how old was she? i dont think i caught it

yes i agree, incredible talent

Yeah her and the other guy that drew the older gentlemen did a markedly better job than the other two that drew him.

it is muddy colors though? that doesn't mean its a bad painting it literally means the color scheme is made of the same colors as mud

I agree.

I agree...I did think though, that of the 3 finalists, the watercolorist should have won.

@@RMBlake007 Yes, especially since likeness apparently doesn't matter.

One of them doing the best of the best realism portrait with oil..he deserves the win sit ..

I find it ALL so very Subjective!

@@rabimondal2806 Yeah i cant believe they chose the water color guy over him or the other girl. There was hardly any value difference in the face. It just looked so washed out and uninteresting. From a distance his head just looked like a blob of negative space. Not to mention there wasn’t a whole lot of likeness there either.

So true

Also her arms.

agree, if any of them has likeness issues its this one. also forehead and brow line look off to me

yes, I wouldn't even have identified that portrait of being her the likeness was completely lacking

Yes he made her look like she has the body of a rugby player lol

Arms like Schwarzenegger. And yeah , I had to look that name up

Totally agree! After watching all these episodes this weekend I'm convinced it's blatant racism… The lack of diversity in the artists as well as the judges is despicable… And then when the greatest works of art or not chosen time and time again, The, common denominator becomes very clear

@@progressivedragon6664 you have to remember this is in Great Britain only, NOT America. Great Britain is not nearly as racially diverse as most other countries are. And what are you talking about saying lack of diversity in the judges? One of the three judges is Asian…

But not better works of art.

I agree 100%!!!!

i was wondering about that too

I totally agree with you…they have a time limit, they are in their own world painting…then people come up and interrupt you and break their thought, or some say break their connection to the painting. They know that these painters are thinking ahead of what they are doing at that moment, just maybe small fine tuning something after they are done with a specific part…and then these Judges walk up and break that concentration. I find it very annoying.

@@BlueBirdsSong I'll second that as a painter. I thought their interruptions cringe worthy, and for what? For the camera? I don't think those conversations added anything, but a conversation after it was all over would have been interesting.

You are SO right! Feel the fear and do it anyway.

Look at Susan Boyle on BGT. Her mother wanted her to stay and care for her until she passed away as Susan's father died when she was little and he left her mother money. Susan had such great talent, but didn't get to have her real chance until after her mother died. She won a local vocal contest and got a Voice Teacher and then he told her she needed to study in London & she found two different teachers, so she was well prepared when she went on BGT.

They did manage to win the favour of the sitters, which is important outside of the contest backdrop.

Definitely agree!

The judges think themselves to be so wise they outwitted themselves in this one

highlights on the face are impeccable, raoff has a clear understanding for use of color. best horse in the race won

Me, Too!

I agree. So much expression!

Agreed

Neither are they

Take a photograph.