You and the whole audience in the studio

I thought the civil service was supposed to be impartial? Are you saying that possibly good policies were "Buried" in effect by the civil service because they didn't agree with them?

@@stuartd9741 Of course Stuart, that is how things work in the civil service. Yes Minister/Yes Prime Minister maybe a sitcom, but there is reality in their scripts. I have worked in the civil service, and I know how some of it works. All words, and no action. I remember one idea of introducing a 5% reduction in spending in our department. The permanent secretary agreed "in principle", but the cut never happened. Why? Because if we managed to reduce our budget by 5%, what then would stop other departments doing it, and also why stop at 5%, why not 10, 15, 25 etc? The civil service is impartial in most ways, but when it means looking after their own, they will always protect their institution first.

@@johnking5174 I see. Totally understand protecting the institution. I know its a thorny subject. What do you think the civil service views is of the " B " word? Of course they'll have to implement any changes. Oh, B is not Boris. The other B.

@@stuartd9741 I have learnt Stuart that it does not matter one bit who is in the office of Prime Minister. The civil service continues on. They detest the Brexit mess of course, but you can bet your last penny the civil service has planned for a no deal Brexit. With regards to Boris as Prime Minister, they will treat him with the same dignity as they treat other Prime Ministers, but underneath they will regard him as a moron, however a dangerous moron, who is ten times more clever and manipulative than people give him credit for. He may have the wind swept hair look and bumbling nature, but unlike a Mr Trump, there is a deep intelligence hidden underneath, which the civil service know never to ignore.

@@johnking5174 Thank you for the replies. It's nice to get genuine insight from people "in the know". I don't trust PM Johnson or Mr Farage for that matter - Think they are opportunists. I guess that's a topic for another day. Good day to you.

Man is also used in the sense of human, person.. etc.

+Y.T. An archaic usage, aptly satirised in this very clip. But trans and nonbinary men should be in Ministerial positions in our governments, despite the fact that this was probably not at all intended in the satire. =8)-DX

Y. T. Did you miss the joke?

@@IvanTre (Facepalm)

Can a trans man play in the Wimbledon womens tennis...or vice versa?

You know your ties

As a demned colonial, I got most of it, but I didn’t know about the ties. Thanks, it adds to the whole thing,

@@wfcoaker1398 what does "demned" mean? Or is it a typo?

milind006 Think in terms of the very pear shaped tones of British UP pronunciation. Lol. “Bai George, these demned colewnials ah sew veray annoying, eh wot?”

Wf Coaker Ahh! As I suspected! :)

And then came Boris Johnson...

@@HesteBremse Well if your goal is to get a large majority and make the Labour party impotent then seemingly Boris was the man for the job...

That would require them to have a sense of humor and not be all aboard the identity politics train.

This particular sketch would be roasted in every forum, regardless of the intention.

@@22espec This is why we can't have nice things anymore...we only have ourselves to blame lol.

They can't do this sort of humor now unless they deliberately make you feel as if the message is being rammed down your throat with a PC jack-boot

The TV series parodied the government of the time and unfortunately most politicians (especially those in leadership) have not studied history so that the TV series is still quite an accurate parody (eg when the arguments over replacing Trident by a newer missile were given (by the [real] government), they almost exactly matched the arguments over replacing Polaris by Trident as parodied by the series).

They accurate?

@@dhruva.3206 In terms of the 'civil service machine' yes, it grinds forward and gets things done in its way. My dept is probably less formal in terms of dress (although you do get people coming to work in 3-piece suits sometimes) and it's a lot more equal in terms of mean and women in senior positions. Some of the govt buildings in London are really nice and you do come across the oak panelled offices and leather-topped desks occasionally.

The Good old days

The beauty of this show is in its details

Well spotted...

I didn't realise that. Nice in joke

Sad thing is its true. Just the other day a member of the very old generation told me that feminism basically made all women men. So I think men could be the best way to describe them

"Man" can be a nongendered term. It's moderately common in military circles to shorthand male and female uniformed personnel as "men" in some situations. And despite the fact that females are well represented in the workforce we still use the somewhat obsolete term "manpower" to describe the total workforce from time to time.

hah. obsolete... hah.

True Story. In the Mid 1990's I had the severe mis-fortune to work in the ultra-feminised Social Services Dept in Southwark. Blatant anti-White Male bias was prevalent and PC was in full bloom and one day I reminded ny Femake Boss I was off and xxxxx was " manning" the office. Now if she had said " staffing" the office to correct me I would fully have understood but she said " NO ! PERSONNED THE OFFICE ". to make it funnier I returned to my female colleagues and informed them of that little exchange and they all looked at me as if to say " Whar's YOUR problem with thar". I, then, knew the lunatics were running the asylim and I quit and started the first of my ( now ) 2 Medium-Sized Businesses. Without PC I would still be plodding along there....:)

Ironic. Female prison staff in the US have been suing the state, because they have been harassed by prisoners while on the job. What the hell did they think it was, a primary school job ?

@@TheWarforged Maybe if you don't know what feminism is lol. Though if you think standing up for others is akin to fascism there's something whack with your morals.

@@TheWarforged Also, did you even watch the video? He's quoting the dude in the video. Classic antifeminists, not even checking sources.

Sploof Mcsterra spot on cow

@@sploofmcsterra4786 seems like he has it exactly, feminism is a supremacist ideology mascarading as a campaign for equality. There times last century half the population enslaved and slaughtered en mass. That same half kept out of the lifeboats of sinking liners. Same half gets longer sentences for equal crimes whilst also being more likely to be murdered. Also death penalty is even more gender biased than racial. Feminist take -thats all a privilege and you need to shut up. Also women should have equal power. Society- fine. How about equal obligations. Feminist-mysoginist! Still the half of America that oppressively is five times less likely to be murdered and has full citizens rights with no obligations might be about to get a good male privileging lol. Given it's been recommended that draft registration be extended to women. They'll be going men in having no right to vote or hold a government position unless they hand over their bodies to the state. Feminists are already outraged. And if feminists cared about equality they might have something to say about the Finnish female pm and defence secretary who preside over a gender based slave labour armed forces from which they are exempt from due to their gender privilege. But nope, instead they applaud these rank hypocrites when they lecture the world about gender equality. Absurd and telling about feminism which hasn't changed since the vile Pankhurst demand gender slavery in 1916 so that she could gain rights that the vast majority of men being privileged out of existence at the Somme would never themselves have.

Iain Young a based learned man

GodfatherXXI Yeah, I heard it was her favourite show as well.

+minimaster197 Definitely ..... she used to quote it in-house ..... she never missed a programme. Once famously stated on an interview that she never missed an episode ... and that "its uncomfortably close to the truth" ...... that one got some publicity rofl

+David Lawson Which is strange to me because they make women almost second class citizens when the big cheese of the UK was a woman.

+GodfatherXXI Part of it was her fault, though. She did not appoint a single woman to head a government department in 11 years -- the only female cabinet minister she had at all was her floor leader in the House of Lords for a couple of years (the Leader of the House of Lords always holds cabinet office, despite also being a legislator). John Major, who succeeded Thatcher as prime minister, promoted two women to cabinet office within his first 18 months.

+Brian Johnson That's part of the British approach to satire, poking fun at the establishment. Airing this programme while there is a female prime minister highlights the absurdity of what they're discussing, giving it an extra meta-level bit of humour.

and a few years later M did become a woman lol

Thanks for pointing out that detail, which is probably lost on a lot of non UK residents. It explains why some of the ties are the same!

Patrick Ellis what flag is that

@@shrekdank3473 looks like the communist party of great britain

Thomas Lockyer looks fucking gay

@@shrekdank3473 *_that map looks disgusting_*

The Mr. Man the only thing disgusting about it is that its not 100% red

I don't think there has ever been another show like this.

@@anorrisisb Arguably, "The Thick of It" is the spiritual successor to this show.

After 8 years working in the Public sector, 15 in top 10 solicitors offices and 6 in an FTSE 100 financial company, as well as over 7 years working in IT and training. I have known good and bad leaders and managers. In my experience the bad are more common than the good and the only just coping more common than any others. The following common denominators of all the truly bad managers was always the same. Their confidence and speech to thinking ratio far exceeded their competence and they were resentful of the success of others. Added to the above they were either creative liars or passive aggressive bullies, sometimes both. Amongst the worst of these were women as well as men. This is not bitterness speaking I am an analytical thinker and I am happy to have moved into specialism and not management. Interestingly, I recall the female Managing Director at one of those companies telling me that it was only in a crisis you discovered who your best people were and that much to her chagrin they were never the people you expected and very rarely the people at the top.

If anything positive discrimination has added to the poor management problem by putting people into positions they are just barely able to function in.

Because putting women in charge is not about getting a better or worse run country or business. Its about women being over half the population, but having under 50% of the power or careers. Claiming an evaluative mind, doesn't get rid of your bias because there is no one in the world who is not influenced by their childhoods, their environment or opinions. People are wide-ranging and diverse so of course there isn't one monolithic benefit and we shouldn't expect there to be, because people are different from person to person. You are right about positive discrimination putting people in charge who are barely capable, because it's been happening for millenia, men have put men in charge regardless if that is an 8 month old prince with an older and capable sister, or the employment of people given good personal references because 'he's a good bloke.' Ignoring the fact there are better qualified women you don't know. It doesn't matter what personal experience have, no one is inherently superior from birth, and to expect that is unfair and displays a willingness to justify discrimination based on body parts.

@@JukeboxTheGhoul Found the raging feminist 😂

Why would you expect women to magically be better at everything and morally superior?

As in transgender?

@@jimmyfong2202 NO! M is the leader of MI6 in Bond movies... That's what the show above was alluding to, since M was perhaps a male character in earlier iterations (M for male, F for female). In recent times, the role has been brilliantly portrayed by the actress Judy Dench.

@@cricketknowall Aaaaa, right...

@@cricketknowall wait bond movies are still made?

@M Ralte - A sentiment undoubtedly shared by the Civil Service members depicted here.

light years measure distance, not time🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

@@conorellisfitness Both, but I'm not going to explain quantum physics to you ;)

Teaching a female dominated field? ???

@@Limrasson outside of universities

"Yes, minister" aired 1982-1984. Judi Dench got the M role in 1995 based on the actual head of MI5 who was a woman at the time. I wouldn't call it "Right after this".

@@noeldown1952 Well, it was right after that, in a geological time scale.

Yes, that is one of the main points of this satirical comedy.

Yes, the beautiful Eleanor Bron.

Or the Wainright female🤣

It all went so fast that I had to rewind the video to hear what he said, but it's a brilliant joke.

Or T for Trans....

So be it then. 😎 Signed Dame Judy Dench.

"M" is fiction from the Bond movies. In real life, "M" is called "C". ("Q" is really "Q" though.)

@Axl Dave No, C is from Capt Sir Mansfield Cumming, first MI6 director, who signed himself "C" in green ink. Hence all directors are now refered to as "C". Q, though, I don't know. I do know that HMG privatised part of the Q department and called it QinetiQ.

Ah fantastic, so this is how we ruin our foreign relations. Because women get the cunt privilege.

that's so annoying and infuriating and stupid

plz tell me, what's that supposed to mean? what's sub paragraph (a)?

In the UK, the Civil Service is notorious for producing extremely long and incomprehensible documents which are full of references to "section 4, sub-suction 2, paragraph (a)" and the like. Catch 22 is a well-known meme (google it if you don't know it) and the joke here is that, in the Civil Service, even a popular meme has sections and sub-sections, just like their documents. Hope that helps :-)

I believe they are talking about assignments to specific countries. Diplomats should usually move between countries in their careers.

It's to do with the perceived religious discrimination against women that is prevalent in the region, although this can range from stereotypical racism to fatalistic truth, depending on which country you're talking about. Western nations believe that women in the Arabic world are treated like property at best, prisoners of war at worst. This is mostly imperialist propaganda, but there is an unfortunate element of realism in it. It would be best for you to research the matter yourself and develop your own opinion, as this can be a sensitive issue in either extreme.

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