I thought I was the only one that wanted this video to come out lol

i thinks he's rewriting it trying to be as uncontroversial as possible

​@@derevianne1108 controversy is exactly why I want it

@@alielsherif1566 hell fucking yeah

It’s never coming out

So basically what happened IRL?

Irony considering Austria's participation in Poland-Lithuania's partitions

Yeah, imagine that… *poland voice*

They basically _were_ nothing at this stage of the collapse.

​@@beefyblomwell atleast irl the allies still help them to defend their territories from hungary and yugoslavia

Results not shown. Video CLEARLY rigged...

hi kaiser my pookie bear

What

@@ReallyBadAtYT there is no movie called avengers assemble

Stronger Serbia and Montenegro would affect Balkan wars Though would Italy even invade Lybia having secured a lot of land a strong ally in Balkans?

Serbia and Greece will definitely partition what would have been Albania for themselves in the first one, it was Austria who enforced Albanian independence if I remember right. Serbia was already gonna see bigger gains no matter what our votes did to Austria. The Balkans were only one place where Italy sought to expand its borders and/or influence, really. I don't see why having Croatia aligned to them will shut Italy out of picking at the Ottoman rear end. And speaking of Serbia, their pan-Yugoslav movement is now directly obstructed by Italian-supported Croatia and German-controlled Slovenia. I think it's probable that their gains of South Slav territories bring the Germans and Italians into conflict with Serbia's big protector Russia and _their_ ally France.

Also socialism on the international stage. Certainly not as bad as the Bolsheviks, but still probably not great

Possible history, for the love of god please do this.

pre ww1 italy or fash italy?

​@@-P3NGU1N Considering how his past "What if everything went perfect for ____" focused on Imperial Russia and Germany, it would make most sense for it to be pre-ww1 Italy.

@@-P3NGU1NItaly going fascist implies irl “mutilated” victory or a ww1 defeat, which means everything was in fact not perfect for Italy

@@alaeus2310 fash italy not trying to conquer Ethiopia and Albania, and instead focusing on improving their economy and relations with other countries could also be considered a “perfect” scenario. The fash regime would eventually fall, and italy would be spared from the destruction of ww2, would have more territory, be more industrialized, and would benefit from the resources of their colonies.

Depends on when the war starts. If it starts and Britain joins I guesss it would be relatively similar. If Britain doesnt join, then Germany wins without a doubt. Removing Britain basically removes nearly all of the bad things for germany (for example food shortages). On the other hand the entente is really weakened as Britain was not only supplying manpower but also paying for the war effort of the entente. Without Britain there is no submarine warfare and no american entry.

Drifting Britain away from the Franco-Russian pairing is already a huge boon for Germany, which, I think personally outweighs any negative impact of deleting Austria. Britain's blockade was ruinous.

It all depends on Britain. If the UK stays neutral, then Germany can most likely break the French lines within a year or two, which would then basically leave the war as a 1 v 1 between Germany and a stronger Russia, where the Germans would probably still win. If Britain still joins the Entente, then the Russians and Romanians overwhelm the Transylvanian principalities, marches through Hungary, and push the Germans hard on the Eastern Front. The French and British hold the line in the east, while Italy stays neutral. The Germans would be fighting an much more defensive war than in our timeline, and they'll most likely lose. The main difference in this second scenario is that Russia might not have a revolution, since the war would have gone better for them (they probably would've still been pushed backwards, but not as much as in our timeline).

In a perfect scenario, Germany would have Britain and Italy as allies. I think they have a chance of winning

​@@ruihund Italy makes sense, a lot of territorial demands against France But why Britain? Britain stopped fearing Russia after Russo-Japanese war

If refers about post WW1 I imagine this: Germany: partitioned and balkanized in many states Austria Hungary: same as our timeline but hasher Bulgaria: all of thace to Greece and the donbruja to Romania and the rest annex to Yugoslavia Ottomans: lost their independence war and Greece gets all of their claims

I mean, two of the four collapsed, and Germany got saddled with humiliating army restrictions and astronomical reparations? That seems pretty terrible to me, but are you saying they get fully partitioned or something? I'm not totally sure HOW that could happen since balkanizing Germany wouldn't be supported by the British and Americans and the only one pushing for it would be France.

​@@yossifhadadwha

@@yossifhadad wdym

so like our timeline^

i love bigHungary

He said it at the end of

In Addition - You can't give Bryansk to Ukraine - No Slovene independence question - No option to give Astrakhan to an independent Kalmykia. - You can't give independence to a Siberian state or a Yakut state - No option to give Sakhalin or the Kuril's to Japan - Can't give Inner Mongolia to Mongolia & Many more.

that is just to make it more chaotic, which equals interestingness in the video’s

@@aydendejong451 more options = more fun i am complaining about the lack of the options that could've been added

Same li'l bro

This ain't insta

Good

Wait what i took one there should be 26

rookie numbers

You can't tear down a 1000 year old kingdom and it's territorial integrity. Only reason Romania was strengthened so much in real life was French interest.

I'm pretty certain the wider foreign reactions will be in the continuation video. This one was just meant to show territorial and influence changes.

I pretty much had Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, Serbia, and Russia all set up to be problems for the west, whose only actual gains were Czechia, Slovenia, and Croatia.

@@Cannon530YTOO Big Kazakhstan.

Yeah, numbering w/ different color highlights would help prevent confusion for the visually impaired. (e.g dyslexia, color-blindness, etc.)

So true

@@Voided191 why must you cyber stalk me on all platforms

@@brandongilbertson3552 I wasn't even stalking, stop having the same taste in KZfaqrs as me damnit!

oh no. Hungry hungary....

Yes, the format is interesting and engages people with history! When people vote for a scenario, they have a vested interest to see what they voted for. Hopefully, this has lead to many people voting for an option and becoming engaged in learning about history! Edit: _(Plus, It's entertaining!)_

literally impossible

​@FishwicksREAL nah, Alexander goes off and makes his greco-persian empire and you've got hyper-rome vs super-carthage waging the 17th punic war in the land and sea

@@ayathados6629 based

@@ayathados6629 rome would be too weak to fight a carthage that continues to exist, never becomes an empire, and dies in the cradle. simply not possible.

@@FishwicksREAL Rome was pretty crazy, as long as they didn’t lose Sardinia or Sicily they would probably still become an empire. Taking over Illyria and Greece would probably be where they’d expand instead.

I agree with this, although I would appreciate knowing a little more than just the guys at the top...

@@Cannon530YTOO Yeah thats true but I guess that would be harder to predict and also make scenarios more complicated and hard for him to make

I agree. However, we never actually saw the results of the vote (via pie chart, percentages, see Viewer Vote WW2.)

Haha, another uninformed "Hungarians weren't loyal to the empire" comment

@@Tovalokodonc i am talking about PH’s videos. In his videos, Hungarians always start a revolt in Budapest and then the empire collapses.

And how would sweden collapse?

Sweden's collapse is currently happening in modern day, but there's no way the Swedes would collapse in 1910.

@@FishwicksREAL how

@@notlucas6859 muslims.

@@FishwicksREAL goober

Yesss

We know barely anything about the religion, It’s impossible for it to spread as it was a secret society and worshipped a greco-persian god. The Christians would simply start the civil war and take over.

A world too different for him to predict after 476? Like what do you want from such a scenario "oh, the empire still mostly collapses around the same way but Islam might be butterflied out and all the politics of Europe are different so who knows. Culturally Europe is a different world too"

It would end up being Europe but with Mithraism and no Christianity. Islam probably gets butterflied as a result but the majority of events are too difficult to predict with that single change.

Belgians at least were at theatre, not in pub

@@snertmoskalyam Aye, that does make it slightly more acceptable. But still.

@@snertmoskalyam I feel like i'm missing some context here. What historical event was this?

@@Cannon530YTOO belgian revolution, I don't now much about it but it is basically belgian rebelion against dutch in 19th century, which was started by people, who went out of theater after patrioticall play

Germany does hold Slovenia, this alongside Croatia being in Italy's sphere could create problems with Serbia later on. Croatia's new king may well be this timeline's Franz Ferdinand.

@@gengarzilla1685 Already mentioned Croatia as an exception and potential problem, and Slovenia is well, already pretty Germanized by the time of the WW1 era and I imagine another 30 years would help really cement that, especially with Slovene loyalty to the Habsburgs, especially as any Serb efforts to cause problems would be focused on Croatia, something Serbia would have a far, FAR harder time pulling a Ferdinand moment for due to the unique circumstances involved, especially as I see both Germany and Russia trying to contain any incident from escalating resulting in diplomatic action over war or a very limited largely proxy conflict of a war that is probably nothing more then a border skirmish. Especially as Italy might be more interested in eating Dalmatia for itself than protecting Croatia putting Serbia in a very difficult position for further expansion beyond a division of Croatia with Italy as both Italy and Germany are too strong to stand against alone, and the dream of a Greater Serbia is already achieved severely limiting the radicalism of Serbian expansionism, especially as Russia would have little interest in such things for quite some time as it deals with its never-ending internal issues.

much messier than I would have hoped for...

The duality of man.