I think Poland is the easiest state in eu4 tbh

in Eu4, poland is a lucky nation that have a huge Lithuania to help poland❤❤❤

@@user-zg7vq3vd4t unless the ai rejects them for some reason

​@@goldenfiberwheat238unless the Kebabistan decided to knock on the door on MP.

Every time period in AOH2

Can't expect much from this narrow knowledge youtuber

I don't know, it could be possible, but I think the bolcheviks would secure their border with Finland despite having trouble in Eastern Europe.

Probably, but this video focused only on Poland

@@talesferreiralimadossantos8806 Well, shortly after the Finnish civil war had concluded, groups of Finnish soldiers ventured deep into Russian Karelia. It could be more than likely that the Finnish diplomates who went to negotiate the border between the two could extract more from the Soviets. Still, something like Greater Finland would be put a fever dream. The greatest extent I could see the Finnish border expaning would be to the city of Petroskoi/Petrozavodsk/Äänislinna. Though, this would only be possible, if the Soviet were given free access to use the railway there, as it's the only logistical link route between Murmanks and the rest of Russia at the time.

@@_utahraptor They really don't have a reason to cover such a minute and mostly unrelated detail in such a short and focused video. If this video was 4 hours and covered a lot more of the implications of the scenario, then I would question their critical thinking abilities with leaving this one out.

Polish-Japanese border on the Urals…

@@SMiki55 Bronislav Piłsudzki (Brother of Joseph) married Ainu woman so that another fun trivia on Polish-Japanese connections.

no way japan would respect a treaty that puts them at war with russia

I mean they were already really friendly with each other irl.

@@Nobody32990 Not just any woman but a princess!

was Jagiello the fella who died at varna?

@@catalyst9955 No

@@catalyst9955 Not that one. Im talking about his father

When was Novgorod their vassal

Jogaila was kind of a brainlet when you think about it. There's a theory he deliberately failed at the siege of Marienburg so as not to strenghten Poland, who'd have absorbed much of the Teutonic lands, over Lithuania in the Union (which happened anyway). Imagine Prussia (the land) being directly annexed by Poland. No Prussia the duchy and later kingdom, no German nationalism in such an aggressive manner, possibly some other nation unifying Germany, if at all. Obviously no partitions either. Possibly no World Wars either. His brothers Vytautas and Skirgaila kept on rebelling against him, even allying with the Teutons, and he kept on forgiving them. Over and over and over. It's riddiculous when you read about it. I know it's family and all but I mean come on, after the fifth time he should've taken a hint. Mediocre ruler at best, his only shining achievement is keeping the Union going after the death of Jadwiga.

He's already done a scenario for Sweden.

That would be pretty cool

​@@esttrox5881 no, he didnt.

@@PainDude-vh6nk Nvm that was AltHistHub

the issue is, as he said, if Poland had its actual borders, ukraine and belarus would not have joined, which would have led to similar events to our timeline.

​@@wizdmovie9957 Polish army in this perfect scenario would be much better-prepared. Ukraine and Belarus had to do nothing, if Poland didn't have border with USSR it's like its army was twice as strong against Germany

@@redguy3256 i just realized i responded to a different comment than the one i wanted to, umm. Oops i guess

It might be a more complex balance than that. Even under the Weimar Republic, Germany's interwar army was set up to allow for massive expansion on short notice, and they also had secret projects for the war machines they weren't supposed to have. Obviously they wouldn't have been as prepared in 1934 as they would be in 1939, but in a situation where they were on the defensive and had a natural border to fall back on (there's a reason the modern border is where it is...), there's a decent chance that mass mobilisation could have held a line long enough for German industry to kick over to a war economy.

Why do we have the same profile picture lol

interesting

I don't know much about Napoleon III, but off the top of my head, I see puppet emperor Maximilian I Habsburg of Mexico (at least partially) winning loyalty of the people while remaining loyal to France. I also see an alternate Franco-Prussian War where Prussia's defeat means France either gains Geman territories or lots of payment.

As a French men I see this as an absolute win

Didn’t he already make a video about that

​@@TheOneWhoMemes79 Napoleon the first? The one that's the great general? Napoleon the 3rd is a different person

the issue is, as he said, if Poland had its actual borders, ukraine and belarus would not have joined, which would have led to similar events to our timeline.

@@wizdmovie9957 Curzone Line B then for compromise

@@stanisawzokiewski3308 thats what was in the video

@@stanisawzokiewski3308curson line b would still have the problem of Polish minorities in wilnno and east Belarus

@@xaveircombs2690 But its a compromise. You cant make an alliance without compromise.

Benes was also ekstremly antipolish and was literally sabotaging intermarium buildup irl

It's really no surprise that Eastern Europe got stomped over by the German/Soviet oppressors. Only foolish and unworthy leadership would engage in the petty distraction of regional feuds when they have twin revanchist giants both breathing down their necks. Putting every percent of blame on the west for the east's collapse only whitewashes the reality of it being a "team" effort between the complacent west and the bickering east.

He would have no justifiable reason for that behaviour if Poland acts like it does in this video. This Poland is far more preferable to the diplomatically inept fools that pissed off most of their neighbours while the two strongest ones clearly wanted to partition Poland between themselves. It's no wonder Poland had to rely on the lukewarm Allies when Molotov and Ribbentrop did their thing.

Made?

@@krabiasTY Shit autocorrect thank you

fr ❤️‍🩹

Polska Gurom !!!

how is this a good timeline for us we have less territories?

@@snowbrero5448 Yes, there is a down side-however the Intermarium would be Polish dominated, and would be a stronger alliance than Poland could be without it-and definitely in the near future of this senario Poland would surely expand or unite with an Intermarium member👍🇵🇱

@@snowbrero5448 But honestly, my timeline would look wayyy different to this one🇵🇱

Comment "A" for poland.

Pilsudski was still thinking in the PLC terms, where "Lithuanians" meant citizens of GDL, most of whom were Polonized Belarussians, like Kosciuszko and Mickiewicz. The modern state of Lithuania was founded by ethnic Lithuanians who didn't want to be a minority in their own state. Larger Lithuania wouldn't work for them. This is why Vilno problem was not resolvable. It was a Polish city in Lithuania.

⁠​⁠@@milobem4458vilnius will always be lithuanian, yall destroyed our country and then your new expanded country got destroyed, and now a lot of polish people are nationalistic and want vilnius back PD: we are far from being a ethnic minority within our own borders, tho we were invaded and in much worse ways than poland and most other countries in the world, and now our country is being fucked because its a post eastern bloc country that has been tryna adapt to the west and our population decline has been second to bulgaria from suicides and massive immigration, so yeah long text but we were far from being russian or polish or any other ethnic group

no v ziadnom pripade to by sa nestalo

@@Salt_and_Peroxide tak, je tu pár možností, mohli by sme dostať Lemkovu republiku, postaviť sa Mníchovu a následne zabrať Sliezko a Sorbiu Alebo Veľká Morava by sa nerozpadla a namiesto toho by zjednotila všetkých západných slovanov do jednej krajiny (podobne ako vzniklo Nemecko)

? So czechoslovak legion takes the entirety of Russia

plot twist: Everything going well for czechoslovakia would mean it joining the intermarium

@@voytec448 well, it would be nice, but there is some mutually exclusive nice things for Czechoslovakia and Poland

You mean Lithuania?

​@@goldenfiberwheat238no. From Belarusian Grodno to Lithuanian Vilnius ending in Latvian Dyneburg there is a strip of land with a lot of Poles

@@pep-qew oh

The polish population was irrelevant considering the german and russian minorities in Latvia

yeah honestly realistically i'd expect border disputes. I feel like in this scenario Poland could get a bit more land east and then encourage the Poles abroad to resettle there. It's complicated because of the Commonwealth past, there's been tons of Polish settlements throughout the now independent states to its east. If they don't get settled then you could have a Yugoslavia situation and considering how well it went OTL, it's not a great look. I think settling that would have had to be a priority for a stable intermarium or you'd always have border disputes. Wish Poland just had a reason to annex East Prussia and expel the Germans from there to make room for the populace abroad much like it happened OTL with Kaliningrad

It's silly, yeah. I feel like there has been a big drop in quality of AH videos. His old ones were much better researched and much more plausible.

@@Szpareq wdym silly do you not know the meaning of diplomacy and compromises?

If territory was all that mattered then Russia would have always been an unbeatable behemoth. Geopolitics is not a map font size competition. This Poland may look smaller on the map but they're absolutely better off for dropping their neo-imperialist goal and founding a strong bloc against Nazi and Stalinist tyrannies instead. Hence, what if things went perfect for modern Poland. If you think it represents a big drop in quality of his videos then that's a very blatant You Problem and I'd suggest revising how you view history and global politics.

@@gengarzilla1685 you miss one point, this union would be dominated by Ukrainians (twice as many people there when compared to Poland) who would lay claim to Eastern Poland. There is no such thing as gratitude in geopolitics and Ukrainians wouldn't give a shit about union as soon as Bolshevik threat was dealt with. Just look at the actions of current Ukrainian government - Polish actions saved Ukraine in 2022 and 2023, then Zelensky started screwing Poland over the trade deals. Ukrainians OTL committed genocide against Poles as soon as the Polish government disappeared and they justified it as a historical justice against their colonizers. This scenario is just flat out oversimplified.

what do you mean small? I think this pretty average size for coc.... I mean country

I think he viewed it as more of federation/union of slavs+balts, hungary is "too far" in terms of language. Tho in reality they could be included considering close ties and friendship between poland and hungary. Not only through WWII but in history in general, poland and hungary were close friends for centuries and even today. Both have "Day of Polish-Hungarian friendship" on Mar 23. There is even a proverb in both languages: Polak, Węgier - dwa bratanki, i do szabli, i do szklanki, oba zuchy, oba żwawi, niech im Pan Bóg błogosławi. Lengyel, magyar - két jó barát, Együtt harcol s issza borát, Vitéz s bátor mindkettője, Áldás szálljon mindkettőre. Pole, Hungarian - two brothers, both for the saber and the glass, both lad, both lively, may God bless them.

hungary wouldn't ally czechoslovakia, romania and yugoslavia without compensation, those are their geopolicial enemies

Exactly. Interwar Hungary really hated those three and no emotional pleas founded in Polish-Hungarian friendship will make Hungary drop its numerous claims against Intermarium members. Hungary was pretty much destined to be Germany's bitch with how much of a massive chip they had against the new order.

Hungary very much wanted its land back. Hence why it joined the Axis in WW2.

hungary would probably have been in the alliance if romania and slovakia were willing to give Hungarian magority lands back,

Poczytaj prac Norman Davis, historyk piszący o Polsce.

@@jerzymarzec3386 Oczywiście czytałem _Boże Igrzysko_ Daviesa. To klasyka, pionierska w przybliżaniu szerszemu światu ogólnego zarysu polskiej historii i w dawaniu Polakom ciekawego spojrzenia z zewnątrz na naszą historię, wciąż warta czytania. Ale nie powiedział bym, że Davies jest obecnie czołowym zachodnim specjalistą od dawnej Rzeczypospolitej.

@@Artur_M. thanks for recommendations lol, might take a look

There’s a couple of videos here that contain what if scenarios for Canada.

@welshlout3400 I know but I just really like this guy so it would be pretty cool you know?

That’s for part 2, where Poland reveals its secret defense agreement with Japan, France miraculously grows a pair, and the partitioners become the partitionees.

Did you have to specify Jew or is it israel palestine thingy

@@Areeb868wtf are you talking about. They can say they are a Jew without it being something like that.

Also saying your Jewish has nothing to do with that like a 50/50 split on either.

Why do you have to mention your Jewish? It doesn’t matter in this situation

@@Areeb868 brain rot

Idk when will what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario start

The Hre was sometimes ruled in Prague but I get your point 🇩🇪❤️🇨🇿

Great Moravia maybe

Wouldn't great moravia kinda count as "Czech empire"? I mean, it had Czech lands, was from Czech lands (moravia is like half of todays czechia) and was pretty big, maybe not "empire" like for example french, but still pretty signifficant kingdom looking at the region

Czechia (or maybe Bohemia, idk what's the right English version of medieval Czechia) was a very powerful country is 13th and 14th century. In 1260s and 1270s Przemyslid dynasty struggled with Arpads (Hungary) and Habsburgs for succesion of Babenbergs (modern Austria) and almost won (it took HRE for Habsburgs to defeat Przemysl Ottokar II). Then, in 1290-1300 period, Waclaw II, benefiting from crisis in Poland, which was splitted between rivalizing dukes, conquered most of Poland and in 1300 was crowned its king. Meanwhile, Hungarian Arpad dynasty died out and Waclaw's son, another Waclaw had pretty good chances of becomimg king of Hungary. Unfortunately for Czechia, Waclaw II died of illness and Waclaw III was assasinated, making him only king of Poland, who never was in Poland. Then, Luxembourg dynasty took over. Bohemia was still very strong and Charles IV, Holy Roman Emperor was Bohemian king. (This is actually really intresting, because during his reign, all three great medieval central European states - Bohemia, Hungary and Poland had fantastic monarchs, I'd argue two last their very best).

Do you really need an "empire"? Poland certainly not. And as a Pole I can't see the Czech Empire in my imagination. C'mon southern brother! We love you because you are normal. Not an imperial motherfuckers, but relaxed Czechs chilling with beer and knedliki. Western Slavs should create the Federal Republic of Poland-Czechia-Slovakia. Equal, friendly nations of people with the same ethnic roots.

a fellow aussie i see

yes yes yes history never talks about australia

@@shrekthefunnyfacewhowrunghands I’d love to see a video where Australia dominates the Pacific, it’d be similar to his Ethiopian video

Hungarians would never give up their claims though