This is an interesting story. I've been on klonipin 25 years I'm 42. I did commercial/industrial sheet metal work 23 years. Certified in 10 states. I have a history that goes deep on my fathers side. Bive never abused it. I hate it though. I was abruptly taken off from 3.5mg 0 MG in 1 day Oct 2019m the shocks and darkest evil bizarre things happened 9ndaysbfor my father to find me. Drive me back to Nashville. A 17 hr drive. My last memory from Dec 1st was shock electro to my head. Vivid bad and good memories to the floor. Then April 2029 I realized consciousness again. But it flipped some switch. To where after 32 years of Mental Health. Sadly I'm on mental disability .my nuncle passed away last April 15th from withdrawel.. I've experienced most street drugs. Not 1 is this monster or this evil. I look up to you for this I was ripped off them again on disability since September 2022. Destroyed me again. Now I'm trying to get a prescription still fighting survival. This drug is good but it's evil and death. It's not normal. My diagnosis after is Bipolar 2 Generalized Anxiety Disorder Major depressive disorder(with psychotic symptoms) Complex PTSD (chronic) Adhd Auditory/Visual hallucinations Psychosocial personality Suicidal / homicidal ideation I'm the outcome of what the 90s did. Paxil- to the new high $ med, that's 1000 a month. 143 meds later it's all that worked. Now Dr's say I'm a dugbaddict that needs to go-to rehab. They made me this way killed my uncle and took me off again. Psychs qre evilbi hate them they took my brain and my life. In the end 549k$ later. Sanity destroyed. Care is 0 self care 0. I hate it. They murder us. I only know when I don't take it by noon. It's strong. But I get it disability/ old meds/Medicare. I'm bottom barrel. I don't make them rich. I'm just thrown on the trash pile. Its wrong murder evil. I hope you are well. My name is Greg. Thank you for sharing

We should talk hey 17 to 43 and many times felt the way you described. That depiction was the best i heard thus far ive been switched to diazepam for my taper but 2 mg 3xs a day of k pins is equal to 40 mg of valium 3 xs a day im at 10mg 2xs a day and 3 2mg 3xs a day so 26 mg and i come down 2mg a month i got 14 months to go. Been off coke and dope 3 years but reside at 170mg of methadone.

@Gregory Coleman I would love to talk. Noone understands this. Dr's won't help. I live in the woods away from this world. I can't trust it. They robbed who I was before I knew or had a chance. People think sitting at home being a loser on disability is fun. Hell no. I wake up if I sleep to. Thinking of the Dr's killing my uncle in 6 days April 15th last year. And useless worthless existence. Then I'm this benzo junky to any psych. This drug sadly is stronger than a mental cocaine/meth/ addiction, opiate addiction. It's another entity almost some silent dmt bin your brain screaming at you. Tricking you. At the same time saying to kill or kill yourself. 0 street drugs did that. I had a 6 yr cocaine addiction 2000-2006 a short lived methamphetamine addiction. Never pills. I've taken every pill psych related since age 9. I'm stuck now using Mexican klonipin from family getting it over here so I don't die. If they take me off or it's gone I will do worse than a fucking ticker on the news they'll know my face and talk terrible me after a psych gets their practice turned into pools of blood and endless death until I'm dead

@Gregory Coleman I'm the least violent person. It hurts that my life is destroyed. I did tms /ect/all the games trials nothing last over a week. There's no cure. Just leave us alone it works for some. It doesn't when they you off.

@@blackenedhateproductions Do you think that I was treading lightly upon what you were saying no Greg Im Greg too and Im scared to death Im only really playing the shrink I have now because she will write for 14 more months, giving me time to find someone new. I know none of the shit works and all I said was that your description of a life without benzos is accurate, i dont understand that you want me to leave you alone. I said we could talk anytime I even went back to make sure you were the one that described the terror to a t. Here in Ma if you get out of control its the only state besides FL that has a section 35. At the time i was sectioned with no charges to an upstate jail called bridgewater it is now shut down in FL its called being baker acted anyway the judge from one doctor saying i had no place to go from the hospital and that my benzo tolerance was crazy they sent me to an upstate jail where i was subjected to physical abuse on top of a librium taper in which clonidine brings my pressure so low i never received not one pill i had enough kpins in me to not start breaking for a week atleast which used to happen at those 2 week taper places. I would not even get sick for a week long story short 62 days they kept me locked up there with a 16mg suboxone habit and atleat 10 mg of kpin a day needless to say the only relief i ever got was when south Boston kids came with their assholes packed with k pins, Xanax and subs. I seized every other day i twitched muscles jolted the way they wanted to and monkey feet 🐾 which is when your feet muscles move around on there own causing a reaction in your foot similar to monkeys grabbing tree braches with there feet, I made it my 62 days without dying but thought death was coming for me each seizure. Im now disabled with complex PTSD, panic disorder, major depression with severe intermediate episodes, gad and more. My doctor s came to my salvation when I got out as i climbed the kpin latter. 0.5 back to 2mg 5xs a day prescribed got my subs back and i know your pain. It was art addict i was sayin hey we should talk but when i read your story only because you wrote something to me like leave you alone and i had not said shit always remember there is read more for a reason. Write me anytime. I will pray 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 for you and this whole forum tonight.

Wowwww... Yeah...about 9 years ago I went off 3mg alprazolam daily (sometimes more) cold turkey after feeling like God was telling me that if I wanted to have a relationship with the woman he blessed me with (church going "normie" that had absolutely ZERO history of using any mood or mind altering drugs) and have the family that I always wanted than I had to get off ALL the pharmaceutical prescriptions I was dependent on and give up cannabis too so that I csm give her and my family the man and person they deserved and who God originally created me to be. I had a safe and in fhe safe I had a bottle of over 300+ .5 xanax tablets and I literally flushed them ALL down the toilet and watched them disentegrate into the water and flushed them along with hundreds of methadone 10mg tablets. I was so confident that God was calling me to do this and I was so proud and so was she! It wasn't till I started withdrawing that I got scared as hell...I called my doctor and told him that I did and he flipped out wanting to know why I would do such a thing. Long story short...the combination of withdrawing from both methadone and xanax hit me soo hard! I was halucinating and remember being in bed and feeling like I had to urinate so bad and I literally saw myself crawl, literally crawl on all fours out of my body in the bed into the bathroom to go and pee. Eventually I woke up and got out of bed and went to use the rest room and saw what looked like 2 rabbid dogs (German Shepard's) gnarling and growling at me and one jumped and tried to bite my face!!! After that...I was traumatized. I realized the severity of what I had done by flushing my stash of meds, and how mentally and physically dependent I was on the meds. I couldn't sleep for over a month. When I closed my eyes my eyes would move rapidly, shaking over and over and was feeling electrical zaps in my brain. I stayed up ALL night every night while my girlfriend slept so I went down stairs to try and read and or watch television while she slept in the bed. Needless to say, that made her feel alone, separated from me, gave her time to rethink what she wanted and also probably scared the crap outta her. Man...that was thee toughest thing I have ever survived and honestly...there is so much more I can go on about at length. I can also say that I would NEVER ever recommend any human being do what I did and to absolutely consult a medical professional to help guide you through that process because not everyone will end up the same as I have. It was until about month 3 to 4 where I was able to get a full night sleep (im talking a good 6 hours of solid sleep). Before that ide sleep for like 5 mins one night, 15 mins the other night, and so forth. Made everything extremely harder but thank God I had a passion for fitness and exercise. Ide go out and run and do body weight exercises to try and exert myself and secrete as much endorphines as possible. I remember being unemployed and desperately needing work and when I would dress up for an interview my dress shirt would be soaked in the armpits area, the waist area from chronic anxiety worrying about what they were thinking about. It was hell... If you don't have a relationship, a personal relationship with Jesus Christ I am telling you NOW is the time to get that! And don't put it off one more day! If I did not have that relationship, and if I had not prayed for a miraculous healing almost all day every day I don't know where I would be. I prayed for an instant healing and the humbling lesson for me with this even was that sometimes God does heal you and your ailment in an instant and other times it's a process. However Jesus, God and the Holy Spirit are literally forever faithful and will deliver you from your agony. Don't give up, never quit! When you feel like giving up...your breakthrough is literally right around the corner! Amen! I pray that whomever is still reading this right now, would be radically transformed from the old person they used to be and instantly awakened to their new identity in Christ! I pray that the bondage of addiction, the spirit of heaviness, oppression, slavery, the spirit of fear would be cast out and banished back to hell where they belong and that the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ would comfort the resder, deliver the reader and replace that fear with faith, hope and most of all these LOVE! I PRAY THIS IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS CHRIST! 🙏❤

I heard music too. It was constant for month's. I learnt to ignore it or I'd have gone insane.

How nuch your daily dose and how many time you use

@@tarshbhinder Before this experience, I was taking 6 to 8 mil per day. I was at this dose for about 6 months.

I'm a recovering heroin addict. Clean for 2 years. But the beginning of this year a friend gave me a good quantity of xanax because I was going thru some shit. I've been taking them daily in low doses here and there. Breaking the 2 mlg bars into quarters and halfs throughout the day or at night to sleep. I know most ppl have been on this stuff A LOT longer and take much more than that......but I am absolutely terrified of when I run out. Obviously, I know a lot about withdrawl being an opiate addict for over 10 years. But the benzo horror stories are Scaring me to death.

This is worst ever. Would rather do a ten stretch. My head is saying ride it out my body is crying for sleep

@@waynegrow are you hallucinating?

@@waynegrow I'm in the same exact boat. 26 days, 3 seizures later. I would not wish this on My worst enemy.

@@waltersobchak7275 I have been Myself personally. Every WD symptom associated with benzo WD I unfortunately am experiencing 26 days off & 3 seizures later.

@@FactoryFugitive I was in another world hallucinating. Not like an acid trip but realistic. Scary scenarios. Four days straight woke up in the hospital typed to a bed. Only after they gave me diazepam did I come out of it. I backed out very slowly after that I bought like 700 footballs and took a year to back off very very gradually I’ll never touch it again

Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again again but it’s just so hard to source out of there.

Yes, bergwilly11_

The Trips I've been having have really helped me a lot,I finally feel in control of my emotions and my future and things that used to be mundane to me now seem incredible and full of nuance on top of that I'm way less driven by my ego and I have alot more empathy as well

@@zarkos2313Is he on instagram?

Shrooms was the best trip I had. It was an amazing experience.

I no wat you mean got thrown at me so many times

He doesn’t know , he looked at some stories on KZfaq and now thinks he can talk about it. No faith in doctors

Wow that’s great kudos for coming Ning off after that many years !

Have you had imsomnia?

Thank you so much for your kind words. Your comment meant a lot to me and I know it does to doctor B also. Appreciate you 🙏🏼

I'm going through now :/

Seems it is more of a gut injury than a brain injury.

I am on 0.5 mg on klonopin for one month, can i cold turkey or going tapper, please ur help needed. 🙏

@@khajababu1403 always cold turkey it bro

I have Asperger's Disorder and ADD, ADHD, OCD and a few neurological mannerisms problems so I have to take them

@@khajababu1403 don't cold turkey benzos as there's a life threatening risk of seizures etc. Taper if u have the option.

Yes. Neither one of us.

More doctors like you are needed.. thank you for your service..

Poison awful to come off

These are prescribed and those who suffer injury most often are those who take them 'as prescribed'.

Jerk! We were prescribed!

@@THXx1138 did you not listen to these people?

@@davidkruse4030 I'm one of them.

We go on live every Monday at 5 pm PST. Come on and join us live next week. You can even jump on and talk to us during the stream. Thank you for the kind words and support.

@@the1minutetherapist566 can i tapper of both clonazepam (0.5 mg) & vortioxetin (10mg) have been using for 3 weeks only.. I don't want to stay on these pills which cannot give me relef rather more I'll feeling.. Please advice me n ur support needed 🙏 I dont wanna regret in future

Some of us have not experienced trauma, but are still having the same issues you are discussing. Thank you .

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​@@DrBAddictionRecovery Thank You , honestly I only have had cravings a few times but the whole experience comes rushing back to me and I THANK GOD AGAIN.. GOD BLESS YOU AND PLEASE KEEP UP ALL THE HARD WORK.

I feel the same way!

Yes it's horrible.

can i tapper of both clonazepam (0.5 mg) & vortioxetin (10mg) have been using for 3 weeks only.. I don't want to stay on these pills which cannot give me relef rather more I'll feeling.. Please advice me n ur support needed 🙏 I dont wanna regret in future

Way worse than opiates I went off four ys ago. Except I did go into psychosis after nine months. Went cold turkey off five meds. Had no idea what the shrink was getting me into with the benzodiazepines. I made it clear I didn’t want to be addicted to anything! Now I want tramadol to ease the withdrawals, but looks like no one is suggesting that. Kind of a no brainer. God bless everyone going through this and helping.❤

Thank you

Yes, my initial impression of this channel was very very wrong, and I was so pleased how you handled my concern a few weeks ago with sensitivity... I'm glad you are working so hard on breaking the stigma, and actually listening to addicts experiences to be able to more compassionately effectively treat them.. treatment outcomes are pretty dismal.. but with doctors who practice like you all do, we will make some progress ❤️

Hi Dr.B can you do a show about Ambein addiction and withdrawal. Thanks

Thank you for helping us

I tried slow tapper and withdrawals the whole time! I thought I had everything from diabetes to cancer!! It’s the benzos giving you all those symptoms!! My wife and I cold Turkey 21 days ago and other then are mouths taisting like metal were feeling pretty good! I’m confident in another two weeks we will be feeling great! I’m sorry if our story doesn’t fit your narrative but I thank god we had the strength to quit cold Turkey because the sooner you get this poison out of your system the better you will feel and the better chance u have off staying off them the rest of your life! 21 days and I’m getting my life back not even a month and we took 1 mg each every day for 5 yrs!! You can do it! I’m not saying you should cold Turkey I’m just tell you what is working for my wife and I !!

@@ourlordisking7026 I'm glad that this technique worked for you... And glad that you didn't have any serious physical effects during withdrawal, other people are not so fortunate and actually die, which is why it is best to do it with medical guidance.. I'm not discounting your own personal experience, just saying what is generally the safest and best practice..

Thank you for your kind words and support

It's the truth !

Absolutely! First time here from Canada. Truly Appreciate the Helpful Info! Thank You, Kindly!

Meditation help it?

can i tapper of both clonazepam (0.5 mg) & vortioxetin (10mg) have been using for 3 weeks only.. I don't want to stay on these pills which cannot give me relef rather more I'll feeling.. Please advice me n ur support needed 🙏 I dont wanna regret in future

​@@khajababu1403 3 weeks is nothing dude

Most who suffer injury from benzos take them as prescribed. Physical dependency is not the same as addiction.

@@THXx1138 . It's not the same ??! What ? In what way is physical dependency not an addiction ?

Our pleasure!

Appreciate you 🙏🏼

hi are u still on lorazepam?

How are you doing now?

That's exactly what I'm doing. Can't get anything from a Dr because I bought the Loraz and zopiclone. I'm afraid I'm going to die.

@@judithwilliams3147 I'm praying for you.

Gct filter did u feel fatigue like no spirit in body in ur withdrawals andd stomach cramps please answer. I m 79 days sober

Hi. Do y have memories problems?

@@gmc202 yes sever memory problems

@@michelebergman4336 just it?

@@gmc202 I haven’t been taking diazepam for two weeks now and my memory is getting Better.

I feel so sick now day 3-4

@@Holidaygirl7 I hope you did not go cold turkey. If you did, like me, this update may help. As a follow up I am in month 16 and doing so much better, with most of the above troublesome symptoms gone. Sleep has finally arrived (at ~ 12 months) and it feels great, which makes everything better! I am experiencing intangible insights which have been long suppressed. It’s like a cloud has been lifted. My main residual is anxiety which I am able to work on daily. In retrospect, I think there were noticeable improvements, weekly and monthly. I urge you to stay the course by taking one day at a time; feeling better will fall into place… . Absolutely, positively it does get better AND it’s worth the effort. Please take care.✌️

@@traceylakes3695 Thanks for asking. At 16months most symptoms have devolved into residuals, certainly less than I reported above. Sleep is approaching ‘normal,’ actually a new experience for me, likely suppressed by all the years using benzos! Some symptoms remain or have exacerbated, like eye pain. In all candor I don’t know if the increased eye pain is from benzo w/d or needing an update in vision rx? Another major complication has been my gut. It has blown into full blown IBD in conjunction with anxiety disorder. The good news is that these symptoms, whatever the cause are now compartmentalized and I’m functioning around them rather than being consumed with them. Again, I think this is a new stage stage and fairly recent. I’m hoping the end of the year is another resolution stage. 🤷‍♂️I hope this update helps. How about you?

Excellent post. Glad you are doing well.....especially sleeping!!

@@donnabittner69 Thanks, Donna for the nice thoughts. You responded to @All In, here. FWIW, that’s me,simply an oversight in keeping up with more than one account. FWIW, at month’s end at 18 months, I’m curious how much the withdrawal dynamics from benzos are still in play? I’ve read and seen others ‘getting better’ after years off, but I wonder how much of ‘better’ is affected by w/d versus otherwise personal growth… ? FWIW, Insomnia and Anxiety are tough beasts to control; right now, they are pulling ahead as COVIDS has slowed me down (even after the 2 inoculations)🤷‍♂️

You are welcome and thank you for watching this video 🙏🏼

I had to go into an inpatient detox to successfully get off benzodiazepines after being prescribed 3mg a day for over 10 years

@@denisefenwick How is it going? I do hope you have had some success. Its scary because I'm in the grips of it now. Anyway, best wishes X

❤ HUGSS, SAME HERE😢

I'm also down to .5mg. I was on 2mg a day (as needed so they say) I'm 62 and have been on since I was 24. I've recently been splitting the .5mg in half and take 1/2 in morning the 1/2 about 5 hours later. it sucks and I just want to go back to where I was, but I'm getting very forgetful and going for alzheimers tests. they said klonpin could have something to do with it. this has ruined my life and my doctor hands it out like candy.

Thank you both, for all your insightful information! Much much different than all I have read this last week, educating myself!

Did you make it through the withdrawal phase? How are you now?

Did you taper or ct?

@@BuffaloBarber24 very short taper…. My doctors had no idea how to help me. Wanted to cut me off. Ugh..

@@whatistrue0293 sorry to hear that. What are your symptoms?

@@BuffaloBarber24 poor sleep is the minor one. Air hunger is the worst.. Many other symptoms have improved over the last 6 months .. Hope you doing well bro…

Did you hallucinate?? Why am I the only one who went completely crazy? No history of mental illness in my family or myself. Way passed the age of that happening

Get cbd gummies or oil and L theannin pills it will be day and night better

hw are u doing

Nicole has one on fb, tiktok and youtube: Real_Talk_Recovery

How long it take you to get off? I been using 6 months but heavy usage I think not even sure anymore since this drug all of a sodden in the last month made me start doing more and more and more. Doesn’t effect me at all like driving sleeping getting high nothing just blocks all the stress I was going through only reason I started to use it at first I don’t know what it was Etizolam now I know. From what I hear it’s the only benzo type drug that does not effect you the same way as a full benzo. I do tend to froget no after 6 months I wanna be off so I am now going to experiment go into withdrwal again and see what my mg dosage is at I have 1200 1 mg pills and if I can some how do a quick 1-2 month taper and be done I’ll be very happy. I just want my life back, I use to love games, building my cars and now I’m just a dudd lazy still working but don’t know how and what gonna happen I don’t want to switch to diazepam for longer acting cause I don’t wanna touch that way I wanna try to taper off short acting if possible

Help me i am taking librium 10 mg twice a day and 1 mg ativan once before brd time from last 5 weeks for alcohol withdrawal now i am 5 days cold turkey ....and feels like i am gonna die ...i loose myself.... anxiety , fear,body pain , I can't even go outside from my house..... I don't know why physician prescribe me these deadly medicine called benzodiazepines....

Hi. Do y have memories problems?

It will get better I promise just breath and stay blessed

Yes Ruchi Same here , I too was for 6 yrs on it , an Idiot doc gave it to me for simple Insomnia and later I got addicted and now after leaving them for years I am Have set of withdrawals symptoms and almost life is gone very bad !!

Brain fog?

@@syntholshoulders1842 Brain fog = different levels of confusion, function mentally slowed, maybe using wrong words due to fatigue with information overload, e.g. kicks in when being in public (crowds), noise, too much movement in field of vision, even conversation. Try Google for different perspectives. FWIW, still in same withdrawal, ugh.😊.

@@Qiman thanks lol

@@Qiman how ya feeling now

@@Qiman going through PAWS,,, IT IS HELL AS YA KNOW

Aww thats terrible. I have just started weining slightly and have been having withdrawals.. I am terrified of doing this and experiencing the scary stuff you are going through. And yes. I want to live my life too... just had to postpone my acceptance into my Masters of Psychology... best of luck to you 🤗

If only doctors would warn their patients and/or refuse to re-new prescriptions year over year. Too many doctors really don't know what they are doing.

Shut up and take you ketamin

Wow I wish you the best of luck. Im in the same boat but it is klonopin

@@denisepleines1513 thanks! Good luck to you as well!

Hope you have a good doctor to help you slowly taper down. My dear friend just went through a taper that was done too quickly, at a detox treatment center. She left after her insurance ended, and had to move in with her parents, while suffering withdrawals. I hope you take care of yourself, and get the help you need.

@@amyhenningsgard8618 thank you!!! I’m getting help tapering off with the help of a good dr. Gonna be a long road ahead but I gotta do it. Thank you.

Same, very scared but going to try to do it myself...

The end result is the same your plasma level with stay at a certain number of ng/ml you will just require less pills to achieve it so your kind of cheating yourself

I realise after I wrote this you went onto talk about that anyway. I love these videos they are so helpful.

@@waynegrow I would say if you have a steady supply of it and can carry on getting hold of it then try to only take the same dose every day at the same time then slowly begin to taper down your dose by 1 mg per week and you won't notice the withdrawal effects as much. Diazepam is the longest acting of the benzos so you're off to a head start

How are you feeling now if you don’t mind me asking?

I've heard alot of good about Lamictal ❤

But Lamictal doesn't touch gaba receptors

I am prescribed lamictal for bipolar 2 I have some stockpiled just in case I am yanked off from my klonopin due to this stupid war.

​@@joshmutti574 Sorry for the slow response Josh. You are exactly right, Lamictal has not been shown or expected to interact with GABA. While GABA is the brakes on the brain, glutamate is the acceleration to use the car metaphor. So both play a role in brain in terms of the the rate of nerve signalling. Lamictal's mechanism of action is on the glutamate/acceleration side by putting a max limit for release on how much glutamate/accelerant(seemingly via sodium-gated channels) a ceiling on how much excitatory glutamate is released. The nice thing about this is it allows GABA receptors to gradually move back to equilibrium while preventing the likelihood of a glutamate storm. Just advice from a tech nerd , who reads a lot of pharmacological research.

​@@denisepleines1513 I have done the exact same thing. This is a tough challenge along with just managing everyday life, but I have a feeling we will come through stronger😊.

Parham Nematollah. Our pleasure

Most of the damage occurs within the gut. The gut is our 2nd brain.

You tapered way too fast.....there is no rush to tapering off the drug. It should be as painless as possible. Best of luck to you.