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Exactly what I was saying. I don’t understand why anyone would use these in a park lol

Correct. They are really good on rough surfaces and slide too much on smooth ones

@@protestthisyouloser1093 Maybe you should work on switching your perspective every now and then if you really can't understand something as simple as that... first example that comes to mind is: "I'm a teenager and can't afford multiple setups but I love riding both street & park what wheels should I buy" Answer: dragons/softsliders Here's another one: "I'm a 30+ years old and heavy skater, my joints kill me after every session" Solution: get dragons/soft sliders Not trying to be rude but seriously dude, if you can't grasp something as simple as that your really need to work on yourself!

@@dmt_91 Can confirm was laughing at some of these posts. You can't do this... you can't do that. OMG some of you guys sound like my Mom back in the day. 😂

54mm dragons seem to be faster than my 52mm 99a OJ's.. on a smooth park. My old knees appreciate the rebound of the dragons and I've road daily on them for over a year now and they've barely worn. I'm sold on them bro

@@jensenacklese3049 yeah I can tell a definite improvement in knee and ankle pain with the dragons! In our skatepark bowl I definitely feel a bit more drag with the 93 dragons. But I also have the X97 and 99 formulas and they are great and fast. But the 93 dragons are what I skate the most because east coast crusty curbs.

@@braddayforgot to add.. I run bronson raw bearings, clean them with windex every now and then, they've lasted about the same amount of time

This is what I’m leaning against when it comes to picking one. I changed to 101 duro on my cruiser board and feel blessed. Kinda miss the soft wheels but i don’t want to trade away the slide at all. It seems to me at least that the dragons do exceptionally well on rough surfaces, which is what I need. But the spitfires sound so good!

@@jensenacklese3049 I run the G3s but from your yt channel it looks like you hit parks way more than me so you put a lot more mileage on your wheels and bearings.

This comment right here!

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You already know

@@dadboard Dude! Mad respect for the channel🙏. Mid 30s father here and you have been so inspiring for getting back out there. Anyways keep up the good work my dude!

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I remember them being pretty awesome for about a week or two but then after they wore in they were like skating on pencil erasers

As I explained in the video, they were already broken in.

@@dadboard I was referring to the Spitfires. Just wondering if they react the same after some hours on them. I didn't like the Dragons until they had some hours on them. Felt very waxy at the beginning. And they're deadly with any moisture on the ground.

@@vorpalblades ahh ok yeah I plan on doing a real review on them once they’ve been ridden for at least 5-6 weeks. I’m really hoping they don’t get all shitty like the dragons after they wear down a bit.

Yes the slowness would be partly down to size for sure

Personally I don’t think that’s the case but I won’t rule it out since I can’t test it.

Dragons are slow. Size diff yea but thats not the main case. Insane urethane but dragons arent fast

@@DandyHippo Yeah in a smooth park they lag for sure. On rough as guts crust they come into their own

It’s out there, if you believe 🦄

No, I’m not interested in those.

Yeah that’s a more viable comparison tbh. Dragons seem a bit obsolete these days depending on what you read and who you talk to. I gave my x97’s to a kid at the skatepark a while back so unable to test them but I’m sure someone will in the next couple weeks

@@dadboard I put my dragons on my kids board - he skates about 1.5 miles to school every day- they are perfect for THAT but yeah too slow and too bouncy for regular skate spots I dig the nano cubics lately

I think they’re just standard 99 F4’s with a sci fi logo, no?

@@dadboard I don’t think, they made some clear ones that are 90, so they look like in the middle of a street and cruiser wheel. Orchard has them

They’re great after you replace the insole. Much more comfy than vans imo

I had bronsons in and felt the drag, put bones swiss in and didnt notice it after

That would be ideal but I was working with what I had

@@dadboard still the best review and very interesting. Great skating!

They spun fine, man. Those bearings came right out of another set of wheels I had previously ridden with no issues.

Yeah that was my experience as well. The X97 would have probably been a better comparison

Yeah they did but something I’m also remembering is that I rode the dragons in the summer, which I’m thinking will effect softer wheels the way it effects bushings. I’m about a month in on the 93’s and plan on making a breakdown video of my experience with them in a few weeks when it’s safe to say I’ve worn them down enough to have a solid understanding of them

True, but I find it interesting that the F4 93’s are able to perform at a smooth skatepark with little issue in comparison to dragons. Both being 93a

you can get used to anything, skating anything with cushion after a month of slip sons feels crazy good too

Aftermarket insoles are a must 👊

Vulcanized hurt my feet. Fp insoles are a must-have for my feet. Wore vans for 30 + years. Finally, to move on.

@@JT-un7dcI’m still young (25) but i find cupsoles bother me more than Vans skates, mainly cuz cupsoles almost always have a slightly higher heel than toe which puts your foot at a slight angle in the shoe, and that puts more pressure on my knees and hurts them and my back! So vans skates specifically Rowan’s or halfcabs combined with 97a formula 4s is great for me

He is, but he’s encouraged me to be critical and honest in any feedback. Once these 93’s are worn down a couple mm I’ll be giving my final thoughts on their performance, the good and the bad.

There is a Spitfire F4 97 A wheel already, but it seems based on the same formula as the regular 99 / 101 A wheels. Since they took so long to come out with the 93s, maybe there is a new / different formula being used here.

To see which one performed better outside of their intended environment 🫨

You will when you get older. That’s if you don’t quit.

@@75YBA How old do you have to be? 51 and I still don't like them.

@@75YBA well I’ve been skating sense 1994 and I’m now 43 and I don’t think I will. Almost 30 years in and I’m going to skate till I can’t anymore.

This wasn’t even the review. Just a head to head comparison in a specific environment. The shitty review will be in about 2 months. Tune in and hate on it for the algorithm 🙏