In this series I take a look at a PowerJack Inverter that I recently acquired and see if it is really as bad as I've heard. They are inexpensive to purchase, but are they worth what they cost?
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@unit0429 жыл бұрын
I was just about to buy one of these Powerjack "5000W" inverters when I decided to check for reviews to see if it really was what it was hyped up to be on its ebay page, and ended up on this review series. Thank you so much Knurlknar24, you have saved me a wad of cash, time, and a great deal of heartbreak on this piece of junk. There's no way I would bet my life on one of these units for operating my well water pump during a power outage. Keep up the good work!
@claythomas79826 жыл бұрын
I want to thank you for the service you provide. I don't like to read books about electricity, it goes right over my head. With this approach I get a picture and a voice. Your knowledge is up there and has helped me obtain what I need to boondock in my bounder. Right now I'm trying to find a remote on/off switch for my 5000 watt potek inverter.
@JulienDeon8 жыл бұрын
great thorough discussions and evaluations.. alot of things i had wondered before have been cleared up now!
@mikechristensen97447 жыл бұрын
Your video reviews were extremely helpful. I had purchased a pure sine wave xantrex 2000 watt inverter a while back and found that it could not fully utilize the batteries power as it would turn off at about 11 volts. After watching your videos I now know that I can most likely remedy this with a potentiometer it has internally.(once I fix the blown capacitors and mosfets!). So much for purchasing a well known and respectable brand name!! I decided to buy a larger modified sine inverter and would never have thought to buy a PowerBright brand...just sounded like another cheap and over rated inverter to me. This 6000 Watt inverter is great! I can run everything I want on it at the same time...several lights, small fridge, small freezer, Keurig coffee maker, and then start up my 1/2 HP well pump and washing machine without issue although the lights will dim ever so slightly when the pump starts. The inverter stays completely cool to the touch. The fans are large and fairly quiet when running...and there are two of them - one at each end which I have never seen before. The price currently is about $500.00 now and well worth it. So far none of my electronics have an issue with the modified sine wave so it must be of decent quality as well...this includes all of my variable speed power tools which have had issues with other modified sine wave inverters I have had. Thanks again for your time in creating these videos.
@mikechristensen97447 жыл бұрын
I just realized I should have posted this comment on the prior video.
@Coolkeys200910 жыл бұрын
Not that it would have made much difference. Some of those cheap noisy fans are noisy because there very high flow fans. I recently found this out when I tried to swap the noisy fan in my power supply with a better quality one. Also I'm not a fan of reversing the air flow of fans, on my experiments with PC's I always found the exhaust fans were the only one's that really mattered(reversing the air flow was disastrous). So if the designers had the fan exhausting from the case I would have left it that way. Anyway interesting fix tour and review. POWER Jack!
@glennrwright9 жыл бұрын
I was about to buy one of these in a 8000w version but now I will be looking a little more carefully at other makes. Thank you for a very interesting series.
@lancehuttsell38788 жыл бұрын
I had one like this years ago and you had to ground the frame to ground to get it to work right and have the engine running, higher voltage...??? then it worked fine...?
@blmeflmm6610 жыл бұрын
Another good series. I think it'd be interesting to see how this unit performs with a high performance(high CFM) fan in exhaust mode. It's been my experience that quieter fans are quieter because they simply aren't pushing as much air. I learned that through experience by installing a top rated fan in a portable ice maker. The high quality fan was much quieter, but wasn't pushing/pulling enough air to cool the unit and it's performance suffered way more than I would have imagined. How about making a Knurlgnar24 buyer's guide/ratings index that lists the equipment you test so we can get a snapshot of the best, worst, and middling equipment capabilities vs. cost? And/or a Knurlgnar24 favorites/recommended list? Keep up the good work.
@adlerweb10 жыл бұрын
The 3000w inverter advertised for motors was a LF design
@urgentcareguy38 жыл бұрын
Love the videos. Maybe you can help me. I noticed that Powerjack inverters are shown in pictures being used in beach water. It would appear that they can be used for surf boards and attract young Chinese girls. Have you tried the high surf 10kw hand ten option yet and do you find yourself surrounded by young Chinese girls ?
@lappieslabuschagne24285 жыл бұрын
Than you for going through all the trouble and helping me not to waste my hard earned money on that piece of junk. Keep up the good work. Tnx again
@markjob63548 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if the rapid overheating is the result of something else malfunctioning on one of the circuit boards ? Perhaps a resistor or a capacitor, or even a transistor ?
@Migueldeservantes9 жыл бұрын
I'm extremely grateful for your videos you certainly have truly educated me about it, keeping in mind that I'm one of those stupid people that pay for two of the 10Kwatts! thank you very very much!
@SedatedByLife7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I came across this particular series of videos. I was considering this model for an inverter but was very unsure as to its capabilities and quality. I know it's been a long time but how is the samlex performing?
@ShortFlic7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very informative video without bias. Good job
@3D6Space9 жыл бұрын
Why are you picking on this manufacturer? I love the idea of a warning LAB - LEE! lol .... PS - your videos are awesome... I am learning a lot from your pain! Thank you!
@shartne10 жыл бұрын
Great review good job. I always thought they were not any good from ebay feedbacks. I would not get one ever.
@BobsEVGarage6 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that the LF inverter that Powerjack sells contains mains-frequency transformers. They are far more capable when dealing with inductive surges. It would be quite interesting to see inside one of those inverters.
@stevezphone6 жыл бұрын
Very practical and informative tests. Thanks!
@MrKenberk8 жыл бұрын
Dave you've talked me out of every inverter I see. what do you suggest. I'm trying to get one with direct connect also if possible.
@TanvirKabir04615 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review and hard work!!
@kevinbeckenham38726 жыл бұрын
Sensible load test for the inverter should be a main's powered 250 amp arc welder ?
@1981therealfury10 жыл бұрын
So basically its an 800 watt inverter with a high surge rating... what a load of old rubbish, not even worth it at the knock off price.
@pomonabill2204 жыл бұрын
When you started the saw, my ears blew out!!! OUCH!!! So much for headphones!
@MrRacinjason123459 жыл бұрын
So would a modified sine wave inverter be better for a continuous load instead of a pure sine wave? Does a pure sine wave produce more heat?
@bexler5316 жыл бұрын
I need to replace my Heart interface freedom 20 2000 watt inverter/ charger I have 50 amp power supply will this unit be the right one or do I need to buy another model?
@nyghtmyst51186 жыл бұрын
what is a good inverter for a solar set up ?? is a low frequency inverter better for a solar application
@turbosucks7 жыл бұрын
which is the most powerful 12 volt to 120 volt that I can get?
@FroilanWINDSOLAR10 жыл бұрын
sir, can you convert a modified sine inverter into pure sine?
@calito200007 жыл бұрын
So what's the best mane brand please I will be relying on one or two maybe more for off grid living
@fbbmkiminawit74689 жыл бұрын
Hi, do you have any recommendation what brand of inverter I should buy or do you assemble inverter that I can buy?
@threeredstars10 жыл бұрын
I think maybe they marketed the product wrong. Instead of it being just an Inverter they should give it a dual purpose Inverter / Space heater designation. That would really up the efficiency rating!!! What do you think? HAHAHA
@asusreviews9 жыл бұрын
Have you done any tests with the air compressor on various when it is attempting to represurize air when it is already at a high PSI. E.g. Start the compressor at 100 PSI and have it charge the compressor to 120-150 or wahtever its rated for. I found that one of my inverters can start my compressor fine, but can't start it when the pressure of the compressor is above like 50 PSI.
@nathanjackson20729 жыл бұрын
I want to run a 3hp 230v motor, what invertor do I need??
@aToOoOoMboi7 жыл бұрын
Could anyone tell a Dodge Ram 350 Hi top camper van (V8 318 5.2L) running idle could continuously power its built in AC through this inverter?
@NiHaoMike6410 жыл бұрын
The results seem in line with what you might expect out of a "5kW" consumer audio duty power converter. Which is indeed one possible niche - powering audio equipment. But keep in mind that generally only analog audio equipment actually need sine wave to avoid EMI. The digital stuff pretty much always run fine with modified sine.
@knurlgnar2410 жыл бұрын
Despite its drawbacks I do think that this product would be good for certain applications. Powering audio equipment could be one of them.
@THJCustomz5 жыл бұрын
I need a Good inverter for My work truck. 20 gallon Compressor. Power tools. Lights. Mini fridge. Small microwave. What do U recommend?
@johnniebray63607 жыл бұрын
Could you tell me if there is a difference in the amount of watts you draw from your battery set up is more with a larger, say 2ooowt invertor as opposed to using a smaller say 400wt inverter or would it be the same draw from the battery depending on what is pluged into the inverter sorry about spelling, in short would a smaller inverter use up less wattage from the battery if any additional wattage because of being a larger unit.
@JoseGarcia-px9xj6 жыл бұрын
today is almost the end of 2017, have you made another revision of this brand. They told me they improved
@gunlover19558 жыл бұрын
You have to love the chart!
@spencoid18 жыл бұрын
If you like that chart you would probably like the book on Chinglish that i recently got at Goodwill.
@tonysorcinelli9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! I have been using a power jack 1500 watt inverter infrequently for the past 6 years and it has worked great for me. That's why when I wanted to upgrade I was looking at power jack again. Are you sure the inverter was over heating and not low voltage cut off in your tests? Just 2 batteries run down quick even with a 45 amp charger. What type of inverter do you recommend?
@DMAN22yeah8 жыл бұрын
+Tony S yes, it was overheating. that capacity of battery is adequate for that test
@goofykl97 жыл бұрын
Any word on the LF version of this product
@1hhenry9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review
@jedics19 жыл бұрын
I like your vidz but none of the better brands you talk about seem to be in Australia unfortunately. Going by your reviews, if the costs are good, would you recommend finding 2 lower wattage more efficient inverters and running them together rather than a single bigger one? I want to build a completely off grid system and looking into if I should go all 240v inverted which I like the idea of or some 12v for the fridge and lights, or perhaps 24v as ive heard inverters run much more efficiently this way.
@danielhorne60429 жыл бұрын
i think it keeps cutting off is the input voltage dips to 11v ? too much current
@gsmgsa9 жыл бұрын
Hi! Do you know any sites that have schematics on power inverters? I want to know what modification to make to make a grid tie inverter function as off grid inverter, if possible. It's a Socomec sunsys home 3965 grid tie inverter. Any help appreciated.
@dgholmz10 жыл бұрын
Could you do a review of a Cotek 1500 watt 24 volt ? They are affordable ($220 ish) now and look well built.
@knurlgnar2410 жыл бұрын
Cotek makes good stuff. Unfortunately I do not anticipate reviewing one in the near future.
@smallenginedude718 жыл бұрын
i am looking for a high quality inverter that will need to run pretty much 24/7. I am looking at samlex units. What other brands would you suggest?
@HDXFH3 жыл бұрын
Giandel and edecoa are okay cheap inverters, they will deliver their advertised power and seem well built for the price
@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh25137 жыл бұрын
I have s 3500w powerjack and it runs a 2400w 240v vacuum... Good enough for planned use running my home light circuit of led lights and possibly some powerpoints via a changeover switch for blackouts....
@harleyd5006 жыл бұрын
I haven't checked the Warning Lable on my Magnum 2800 Inverter/charger. Can I run a light bulb with it? They don't include a gold medal on the case declaring it "best". I'm scared...
@superbaron0110 жыл бұрын
I couldn't help but noticed that @14:18 when u started the saw u went into slasher mode and it seems all to convincing u might enjoyed it..lol keep these vids coming thanks for the entertainment
@knurlgnar2410 жыл бұрын
superbaron01 Yea, I likes cuttin' stuff
@GTVAlfaMan10 жыл бұрын
Great review. Can you tell us the make of that power strip with the voltage display and where can we find it?
@mreevimusq4 жыл бұрын
It’s called a kilo watt meter can be bought harbor freight and many other places. It is plugged into what looks like a standard surge protector strip
@ksafarian10 жыл бұрын
Great video and great job...keep up the good work mate, BTW I am retired electronics engineer from Sydney Australia, I received one of these units "Power Jack PSW-5000" Inverter 12V-240VAC, unfortunately someone has been into it and missing (Q9,Q10,Q11 & Q12) Mosfets. cannot fine schematics to identify the Mosfets labelling.
@knurlgnar2410 жыл бұрын
Which are the Q9-12 FETs? Input or output stage, size, etc? I do not remember specific Q numbers on the circuit boards anymore.
@ksafarian10 жыл бұрын
***** Thank you for your prompt response.
@MikeO-ss1cn8 жыл бұрын
Power Jack makes a 15KW/60KW 24V inverter. Can you do a review on that one?
@Estabanwatersaz10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your info. Good man Charlie Brown!
@user-pi6fs6pv7e7 жыл бұрын
ارغب بشرا جهاز 4000 وات او5000 وات وان يصلني للبحرين كيف الطريقه وكم يكلفني سعره
@monosurge8 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at the 3000w LF split phase so these videos have helped. I have a few observations, though. First, I wouldn't have reversed the air flow direction. The arrangement from the factory draws cool external air across the output filters first. This is important as they will run the hottest. Also, have you confirmed the supply line you modified for a higher dropout isn't part of the thermal regulation circuit? It could need recalibrated now. Do you recall the part number on the output MOSFET? I'd like to take a look at the data sheet. Thanks!
@remaundostewart31938 жыл бұрын
YEAH. THAT IS A GOOD POINT! ACTUALLY WOULD BE BEST TO HAVE 2 FANS.
@aday16372 жыл бұрын
@@remaundostewart3193 Would be better to test a new unaltered unit, too.
@luistoribio47885 жыл бұрын
se puede hacer corto circuitos de base con 8,7.6.5.4,3,2,1(500uv)
@drsaif34310 жыл бұрын
As usual, a new hit, loved your critical approach, trials for improvement, and i wish you try to go a little deeper when it comes to improving performance, and tell us dose it really worth to boost this poorly made inverter t o be a really good quality 5000 Watt?
@knurlgnar2410 жыл бұрын
It isn't often worth modifying inverters to improve their performance because the components they 'cheaped out' on are generally not easily obtainable or inexpensive.
@hotdogandahayride98239 жыл бұрын
Just like every flashlight, bike light or switchmode power supply I've tried from an unknown Chinese company, the advertised numbers are arbitrary. It's good to see people like knurlgnar exposing these products for what truly are.
@muhammadarif81585 жыл бұрын
How much dc voltage want and how wattes battery required this 5000 WATS unit and how much price Pakistani rupees
@ElectronPower6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't adding one or two more batteries to keep the input voltage higher help to keep the output voltage a bit higher and thus increase the power output at least slightly? I know that the controller should maintain steady output voltage, regardless of the input voltage but since it clearly doesn't, maybe it would be worth giving it another shot with a more capable battery bank that can keep the voltage a bit higher. Nice review, btw.
@ClearChannelNews4 ай бұрын
I believe Power Jack has addressed burnout issues with the need to use a 48v set up for hard to start loads. The lower voltage designs, 12v and 24v don't provide the sustained voltage needed for heavy loads. I think you are right with your suggestion.
@trinamcdonald56868 жыл бұрын
Hi, I just got a power jack 8000 watt LF split phase inverter. The Instructions are NOT good. I wish to use it as a UPS/ battery charger. Do I wire direct to my house panel using L1, L2, N and leave the grid mains on? Why are there AC in connections if this is correct? I am more than confused and I have seen alot of your vids, you seem to know the most about this.
@musclesmouse6 жыл бұрын
you trust the inverter alone in your home?
@gabrielmartinez31714 жыл бұрын
Quick uninformed question I have not seen the other videos but are the outputs in parallel or separate? Even with a pure sine wave inverter it should roughly handle 15 to 20 Amps per outlet saying it's a 5000 watt inverter means it can should handle 20 amps per outlet. Also it needs more batteries and a stronger power source providing the proper amperage to the batteries at 5000watts that inverter should be pulling over 450 amps from the batteries.
@knurlgnar244 жыл бұрын
Parallel
@DCBpower3 жыл бұрын
If you get your inverter shipped, take the cover off and make sure it's not damaged or poorly constructed before powering up. I just got one where the FETs weren't mounted to the heat sink.
@knurlgnar243 жыл бұрын
I've seen that too. I usually open up inexpensive inverters to check for this sort of issue before powering up.
@Revoku9 жыл бұрын
I got a flash light that is over 250w, its using 4 100w LED chips, and requires a shoulder strap lol (also burnt out 3 of those cheap 150w dc-dc boost converter boards before I bothered to get a 600w board)
@immrnoidall6 жыл бұрын
how the hell can my 5000 watt powerjack LF PURE SINE inverter charger, have only a 25 amp fuse? i was told i need 00 gage cables , fur a 25 amp fuse. says 30,000 surge but fuse blows starting a 1400 watt AC.
@77appyi9 жыл бұрын
it not start the compressor up the second time as the compressor will not unload the pressure it made the 1st time if you pull the the plug
@rich10514148 жыл бұрын
+david appleton Well yeah, it could only borderline start it, the extra startup load put it over that limit.
@knurlgnar245 жыл бұрын
This air compressor has no pressure release - it always starts up into pressure. The only changes were that the motor was warmer and the pressure was a few PSI higher.
@errolcain40717 жыл бұрын
Hi Bro, Have you ever test a whisler xp2000i inverte, if so what is your finding,,,,thanks in advance
@Cabmaker10 жыл бұрын
The Chinese to English conversions are hilarious I was laughing my butt off. Thanks for the great video and test
@pudiful6 жыл бұрын
Greetings. Very good videos. I was thinking about to do pure sine wave inverter with home made audio amplifier( I am good do this type of amplifier,ab amp) and power transformer but it will be only 75 percent of efficiency. So, after saw this video i believe that my amplifier will be better than that crap.
@goobiie7 жыл бұрын
superb review...you save some money for me. Thanks
@altpotus69134 жыл бұрын
Woa! Almost bought one. Thanks so much.
@America_Naiznanku8 жыл бұрын
I have got it few days ago its junk. Going to teturn it back.
@ForViewingOnly9 жыл бұрын
Heh heh, I enjoyed the constant references to the 'Warning Lable' :-)
@BH4x0r8 жыл бұрын
if you still have this inverter, i have an idea: since you said most 3kW inverters can't start those big devices, make a switching circuit with a contactor, so it switches to one of your 3kW inverters, like using it to get devices that need a big surge running, and then keep em running with a higher quality inverter
@stevetipps58768 жыл бұрын
you must be in Canada, here in the states we use farenheit
@MrKenberk8 жыл бұрын
what does everyone suggest for a pure sine wave 1000-2000 watt 12V/110 power inverter? Been looking for three months and every time I find one I see bad reviews. I'm trying not to spend $1000
@hildebertoalvarez67468 жыл бұрын
io
@spencoid18 жыл бұрын
so far my Power Jack 3k (Chinese watts that is) low frequency 12 volt input machine is dong a good job but who knows how long it will last or when the Asian girls will show up.
@prentisswallace28904 жыл бұрын
Hey my name is Prentiss and I have a question I am running 4075 Watts what size inverter do you think I need. The items that I am running are a water pump air pump + 2 element heaters please help me I really need your help
@FazluRaian9 жыл бұрын
Wow. How nice powerful apparatus it is!
@goofykl99 жыл бұрын
Great vid, have you reviewed any xantrex sw series, I need some pointers on how it works so I can maybe repair mine.
@knurlgnar249 жыл бұрын
I am sorry to say that I have not yet attempted to repair a SW inverter.
@neilross88607 жыл бұрын
Dalton Simpson
@BentonL7 жыл бұрын
knurlgnar24 Do you know of a cheap inverter than can run a few lights, a skill saw, and an air compressor(heavy use) for several hours. My generator is an old Coleman 5500, but i would much rather just idle my truck and not lug it around. I am looking for a decent cheap inverter that can run as good as my generator. An answer would be greatly appreciated. Thx.
@tomaszwojcikiewicz93796 жыл бұрын
Do you understand the difference between power inverters HF or LF ??? From your movie it appears that you do not understand the difference at all.
@davem53334 жыл бұрын
Are you sure your problem is not on the other side? What kind of batteries and cables are you using? Most people underestimate the input power required.
@knurlgnar244 жыл бұрын
Yes, I am sure. I agree that most people blame the inverter when their battery setup and cabling are the real problem. That isn't the case here.
@brettmaxfield297410 жыл бұрын
Inductive loads (things with motors) you always need to spec double the wattage with the inverter, as the wattage quoted on those loads in an average value, they all draw double their rating (read much more) for a short time on startup, that is not shown on an average current draw figure. Thats true with any inverter and things with motors or heating elements, which require a large rush of current to start. You will either blow a fuse or destroy your inverter, as you are doubling the average rated power of the appliance for a very brief time at startup.
@njdj37609 жыл бұрын
Hi sir Winder if you can hilp me , I have mobile car wash and I have ginretor and it is very noise I have that thought to use inverter but I don't know how to wire it is one buttrey is enough , I use vacum clener it is power 2.4kw max and steam machine it is 350 watt . So waht should I do if I go withe inverter ?!
@DMAN22yeah8 жыл бұрын
+nj dj a samlex 3000 watt inverter, i would recommend 24 or 48 volts to make it a bit easier.
@luistoribio47885 жыл бұрын
para que el inversor prenda la nevera,se puede hacer corto circuito de base con 7.5v culo(7.500w)
@prentisswallace28904 жыл бұрын
Hey my name is Prentiss and I have a question I am running 4075 Watts what size inverter do you think I need. The items that I am running are a water pump air pump + 2 element heaters please help me I really need your help? May you please respond to me.
@MrBrentles7 жыл бұрын
Far out I wish I had your brain. I had a Giandel inverter and threw it away because it stopped working. I'd love to be able to fix electronic stuff. I have an old Technics amplifier that sounded amazing and I want to get fixed.
@gridarmorfix9 жыл бұрын
Any more videos in the workings knurlgnar24?
@MS-oz2wu4 ай бұрын
Very to the point, astute vid on an important item. Thank you. You saved me time & money
@alaaalameen48 жыл бұрын
my dear can y till me what inverter y 5000 w is the bist bicous anly thing y are till as that nothing is good and y know that is eiverthing naw mead in chaina ???????
@TheCumminsturbo23 жыл бұрын
How many feet of extension do you have trying to start that stuff
@knurlgnar243 жыл бұрын
I don't remember, but probably 50 feet. The extension cords were not the limiting factor.
@BenjaminEsposti10 жыл бұрын
11:26 .... oh, I love your sense of humor! haha
@AntoineFinch9 жыл бұрын
Can it power a fridge,microwave(what size) and TV in a tractor trailer?and maybe a laptop?
@miikitzz9 жыл бұрын
Antoine Finch if it really can handle 5000 watts that should not be a problem, fridges take let's say 300 watts, a microwave is 800 watts, TV+speakers etc. about 300watts. laptop 40 watts (when charging ), few lamps at 20 watts each and we're looking at 1500 watts when everything is on.
@miikitzz9 жыл бұрын
Antoine Finch I just pulled those figures out of my ass, microwave might take more, fridge maybe less, and considering this 5000 watt inverter could handle 2000 watts (for a short time) it should work but i'd recommend spending a bit more on a better inverter
@TheStevenhull10 жыл бұрын
Isn't the P3 Kill-a-Watt meter only rated for 1875VA?
@knurlgnar2410 жыл бұрын
Steven Hull Yes, but it can handle a lot more for a short period of time and seems to be accurate when doing so. It is limited to 15A at 125V to comply to safety specs such as UL, etc.
@rgrtrb37467 жыл бұрын
ehm...any news about oscilloscope?It's a pure sine wave?Now do you know real thd? thanks for the information
@KabindraShrestha8 жыл бұрын
I think not over in warning table/lable means the rated power of appliances won't be higher than that.