One of the consistently weirdest things about ONI is that buildings don't conduct heat to the floors they are sitting on. But one little conduction panel behind the building, and suddenly that heat just comes gushing out all over the floor.

Just want to bring up that the conduction panel touching a building and tile has always been a viable cooling method. The conduction panel was terrible in previous versions at transferring the heat to the piped liquid passing by. I've done tests on both the previous version and current version of the game, and conduction panels from both versions equalize temp with hot buildings very quickly. However when having liquid pipes pass the panel, the -35c super coolant raised only to -25c on previous version, and on the current version it raised to 60c. (Building temp is 800c).

I would have liked to see the conductivity of the panel to the pipes liquid. Without bleeding the heat into a tile (floating building, or on mesh tile), but instead just pulling heat from an isolated hot building, how much heat can the 10kg/s of the pipe pull away? Different liquids vs different panel materials would be interesting too.

would been interesting to see if a conduction panel made out of a material can transfer heat faster then a tile made out of the same material.

Issue was that previous the liquid "inside" the panel would only sit for a split second, not a whole second like it does on radiant pipes, which severly limited heat transfer. It would only work by adding a valve or shutoff after the conduction panel to force liquids to sit inside. Now piping liquid works without any hassles. Conduction panel to tile method has been working wonders ever since it was first introduced.

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You could definitely use this for some weird thermal transfer stuff that would be super interesting to do remote heat management on aqua tuners

This could make for some simplified designs for steam production. Like when a player first builds their rockets and want to try and use the steam engine. Common problem I have is the lack of early steel, due to lack of lime.

Great work as always, @Echo 😁😘 So basically, conduction panels still work the same way as when it was introduced to the game, it's just been improved by increasing how much thermal conductivity affects the average thermal transfer. Even the tooltip says "without any liquids running through", which a "few" previous comments confused me: no patch notes stating it was changed to requiring liquids, and tooltip still stating the same. When it was introduced, someone (can't remember who it was) built a petrolium boiler using a conduction panel in a vacuum, and it was just as effective as one powered by magma, just a much smaller footprint in terms of size.

I feel like this building finally has a use.

I want to see competition between radiant liquid pipes and this Radiator

Wonder if you could use this to build smaller thermal spikes for something like a petroleum boiler.

This looks like a great tool to help remove heat from areas you don't want it. Like main colony, into space or into an ice biome without having to worry about pipes freezing.

just in case - for thermal experiments debug mode would be better, there is ability to set temperature for almost anything to anything instantly.

5:21 In this test, you should have shown the Bunker tile temperature rather then the Blaster one. The Meteor Blasters started at different temperatures, the tiles all were 20°C. Their temperature after a while is much more indicative of heat transfer. - the conduction panel has 0 negative decor and can exchange heat very quickly per tiles exposed. So it might also be better at thermally controlling living areas when you do not want to run a pipe just above the floor. You can have the liquid pipes in the floor - possibly even isolated - and only have pipes stick out to use a conduction panel

It's a reasonable replacement for radiant pipes in general. Any place you want to run multiple radiant pipe sections to cool a machine you should probably just use one of these. Two reasons: it's 3 segments long, and only 100 metal (vs 1 for 50). I might have to do some experimenting to see if they arrive early enough to use before I just want to build an enclosed brick

You can use these conduction panels to melt the steel walls of the rocket interior, too. Use liquid uranium as a coolant for metal refineries, feed that liquid through tungsten or thermium conduction panels in the rocket walls, and eventually the steel walls will melt. Then you can build massive rocket interiors for lavish duplicant space condos.

Thanks, Echo! Nice experiment. What about trying to cool a steam turbine sitting in a vacuum on insulated tiles. Fairly common application. The key difference is you do not want to transfer heat generated by the turbine into the tiles (also from your experiment it would not work well on insulated tiles). One would need to run water through a conduction panel in such case, but would it be more effective than dropping water on the floor and cooling water with radiant pipes?

I'd love to see you make a super-compact sour gas boiler making use of these conductive panels. (or a conductive panel vs tempshift plate example)

Awesome video. I never would have thought to use them like that. Good job

I was wondering how much it was improved. This will make it more useful

Thanks for the tile of interest tip! I am having trouble with the conduction panel not cooling down a rocket platform.

The high point of my day is when Echo uploads

Good morning Echo! Thanks for dropping some knowledge about the conduction panel update. I'll always watch your tutorials/info videos. Keep up the great work, and thank you!

Conduction panels are now utterly super powered. They're insanely efficient at cooling because the heat will only go to the building in a vacuum. I have like 12 industrial buildings cooled on a part time aquatuner. including 6 plastic presses. Before people did steam hot industrial bricks, but now we have a cleaner option: the vacuum industrial brick.

You can connect automation wires to the meteor blaster so they only turn in when there are meteors

I'd love more videos like this. Building tutorials are great, but I would just love to know more about what things do and how they affect the build

I am so glad you did this video. I always thought I was not using them correctly. I will have to test them out now, I i missed that patch note.

You can have it so the blasters only turn on when a meteor shower is happening, by connecting it by automation wire to a space scanner.

I have the signal from the space scanner to turn the meteor blasters on and off. Thanks for the video though, the details are great, super helpful!

Think I will still use some liquid, radiant pipes, and drywall in the space. The building that needs to be cooled is still on tiles, also you do not need the edge pieces since the liquid is not really going to move. The Conduction Panel does seem great for the Robo Miner in a Petro Boiler and things like it though.

Thanks for hitting me with some more of that ONI knowledge. You rock! 🎉

Thank you! I've felt so gaslighted by everyone poo pooing conduction panels when -- at least lately --- I've had pretty good results in various applications. Now that makes sense. Now do shine bugs vs germs. Seriously. Everyone hates th' bugs, but they're such great free slimelung and food poisoning control (zombie spores even), because they almost always can be encouraged to go where you need them with very little effort. I wouldn't spend a lot of resources ranching or relocating shine bugs, but most of the time it's only a matter of leaving certain doors open for them to wander through, or at most, picking up and moving an egg to a prime location so they'll disinfect it for you later. Often a zone filled with slimelung can be left to the shinebugs to deal with while I turn my attention somewhere else for a while. If you have a nyctophobic dupe (for whatever reason) it's sometimes easy to shoo a bug to where their cot is, or leave an egg there. Why not? I still kill them if they're confined near the main barracks, if I can't get them to wander out in a cycle or two.

Conduction panel costs 100 kg refined metal, 3 sections of radiant pipe costs 150 kg. Even in atmosphere, where its not technically needed, its still cost effective.

i have never used them didnt see a point to them but Echo ty you have really opened my eyes they look extremely powerful especially in space with meteors and overheating miners or as shown the blaster.

I belive difference is that MOST materials including radiant pipes take MINIMUM transfer speed from the equation, while that new element takes whatever it has, ignoring other 2. its super good at melting ice or spreading a lot of heat from pipes to other things. I did not know it works in vaccum as well, that helps a lot.

Thing is though I've always found the condition panels to be really useful for say when I'm trying to pump water from a cool steam vent using the drain mod so that i don't have to install any pumps & then pipe that over to the frozen biome but not all the time especially on the spaced out DLC do i have room to snake a crap ton of radiant pipes especially early game to be able to effectively bring down that 50-80C water down to a 10-30C before i pump it into a building that needs water or even say warm up salt water/brine from a -14C temp so that i can run it through my desalinator w/o destroying the machine or my pipes from it being too cold. My last go at ONI really gave it to me cuz i was trying out one of the new maps they added to SO & wasn't paying attention to the fact my asteroid had a "frozen core" world trait which really bit me in the clover leaf cuz i had buildings & machines breaking everywhere cuz the min any type of liquid let alone a gas stopped moving things started to freeze & break. I was even busting insulated pipes my asteroid was that cold.

i wonder if u can put these meteor blasters in steam sauna and use it as a power source

The only thing it doesn't do for me is space debris chilling -- need to have some environment for those bits and bobs.

Conduction panel saved my sanity while redoing space setup for the 100th time

my only real question since this was added to the game is, what are the actual stats on using it VS just the radiant pipe, in an environment, of course? Like material use of metals comparison, and effective speeds comparison. Example. Say I need to cool a machine (typical use, like in reality how they are used on most Fridges) Would using the conduction panel be a better option, or, simply some radiant pipes? How many pipes? Which is better in typical gasses? (CO2, Oxygen, Hydrogen) These all have typically 2 uses. Heat Injection, or Heat Equalization(cooling) into a specific area, namely the area with a building your trying to keep from overheating, but, sometimes into an area where you want more heat to go. So there may be some designs of old inventions that can be shrunk down, or take less materials, or simply less footprint - by using the C.Panel - namely in creating areas of cold for all sorts of needs.

Very cool experiment to make for heat Injector; i would love to see the difference between : - [DiamondTile] [autodoor/Vacuum when open] [DiamondTile] (the classic injector) - [DiamondTile] [conduction panel] [autodoor/Vacuum when open] [conduction panel] [DiamondTile]

5:00 probably is changin with bunker tiles too.

What about using that tile with a radiant pipe full of really cold liquid going through it to chill liquid or gas in two areas (boxes, not other storage tanks) to cool them without using temp shift plates or radiant radiators?

i wounder how it compares to a temshift plate

Looks like it behaves sort of like an aquatuner, except the cooling factor is calculated based on the temperature of the liquid and the panel. It draws heat (or chill) from the liquid proportional to the temperature difference and uses its thermal conductivity and the high difference in temperature to equalise temperature between it and the enviroment

Before it was trash and I stopped using it. Things just overheated in space using it. If it's not bugged the other way now and is too powerful, then it's now worth using. I would run -15 liquid through it and the building for just keep getting hotter and hotter. I drop of liquid and a radiant pipe the temp would quick drop to -15.

I was using the Heat Transfer tile mod for quite a while Panel is essentially the same only 3x1, not sure why it needed the liquid input

This makes me wonder what impact transferring heat to a gas or liquid reservoir would have. Would it only heat/cool the building and leave the contents unchanged, or would it modify the stored materials' temperatures? For that matter could do the same for debris in a storage locker.

Thanks @echoridge.. This has been very informative

I remember that last time tryed to I used them "one by on" in my cooling loop they made liquid flow very laggy and slow. I wonder if this issue is now gone

A new cool vid by an awsome man for a lovely community. 👌

I had no idea this new building existed. Now I can keep my in space batteries from overheating.

Great video 🔝👍

surprised you didn't mention/compare wire bridges when discussing the ability to transfer heat from one side of a wall to the other - would have been useful, considering how often they're used for that purpose

When they first released, they worked without liquid by putting a temp shift plate behind it. Then it stopped working after an update.

thnks echo

So basically the thermal conductivity of the conduction panel affects how fast heat gets transferred between the enviroment (Tiles, Buildings) and the panel and not beween the panel and the liquid.

Oh good, I still had no idea how to use these

Nice, I just hate putting oil on tiles with a plate behind it which gets erased once a meteor solidifies on it (which happens when you make a mistake and power is cut of or is depleted). This has cost me so much time fixing.

Short question, does the conduction panel transfer heat between material on the floor? Like a pile of algae?

This sounds interesting for geothermal setups....if i had thermium that is

Should now be valid on steam turbines or produce too much heat yet? I belive is the only build that no works before because of heat production of steam turbines on generate power from steam heat. I will test here xD

I haven’t seen any other comments on it, so I’ll bite: In the beginning, you mention the meteor blaster’s constant heat generation regardless if it’s targeting or not. Could you not wire it to a space scanner so that it’s only “on” when meteors are actually hitting?

How does their heat equalization speed compare to tempshift plates in a sauna?

I know want to build a heat spike .... with a conducive panel instead of steel blocks!

11:37 does it only not heat the tile in the middle because it is insulation or would it also not transfer heat to other tiles?

Have you tried using automation wire to only enable the meteor-cannons when the sensors pick up incoming? Might result in less heat produced overall.

Glad they fixed it! Thanks

Petroleum boiler with panel touching the magma and a door, you can maybe tweak better thermal transferring than the magma touching metal, can you try?

So, I guess I can use it to suck heat away from magma through tiles. That might be handy.

thank you!

I'm a fairly new player in oxygen not included and couldn't figure out how this thing worked so thank you for the video explaining it. I'm still struggling with heat in my base and can't really figure out a way to solve it. I built this little thing with two aqua machines to pipe in warm water and then cooling it. At first they burned down, had no idea you had to put them in a liquid. Let that run for a bit and temperature got so high the yellow water started to turn into steam. I just don't get it how are we supposed to keep things cool in the game? I'm too dumb for complicated schematics but with that said heat is such a big problem that I just can't solve. Everything else has been fine trial and error. Should I be building stuff up in space for cooling purposes or won't that work?

If the bunker tiles are being cooled by meteors, and meteor blasters are installed, wont that stop the cooling for both blaster and bunker tile by preventing meteor contact? Are uranium meteors disabled on the blasters?

Conduction panels were significantly lacking for me from the beginning. I tried to use them in my builds but with no good results. I have to check them now after the update!

Would have been nice if you actually tested the transfer rate of heat from the liquid going through it instead, cause that is what they changed. Using it as a bridge didn't really change.

I'm curious how the panels handle Temps on the other end of the spectrum. Equalizing and heating we see, what about cooling?

Why is the thermal conductivity doubled? I didn't watch the series from beginning

Is it still like this ? Getting back into it after a long period of absence

What is the website that listed all of the ONI patches and versions?

This will change so much about the game to be honest. 🤔

can this not be done with tempshift plates? since that is what they are supposed to be able to do

My question would be, How does the conduction panel compare to a temp shift plate?

what about into a door? and you open/close the door?

I only enable my meteor blasters if meteors are detected 😉

Echo

so goodbye tempshift plates?

Question about the conduction panel: will you start to use it, Echo?

So, effectively, conduction panels are 3x1 tempshift plates, except (a) they can pull heat out of buildings directly, and (b) the middle tile only works if a liquid is passing through.

So I’m still confused with this thing. Does it transfer heat through the center tile or the output tile? I’m trying to use it to melt ice on Rime and I get inconsistent results.

ECHO YOU DID NOT COMPARE THE TEMPSHIFT PLATES.

How Neat

Why is the conductivity doubled? Some mod?

Possible heat spike use?

about 7 months.....Oh shit you meant money?

How are you playing smooth on late game with 22 dups ? haha

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Жаль что я не понимаю английский 😢

It's amazing how long it took for him to realise the power of it