Dell must be shooting themselves in the foot right now for not going forward with that prototype handheld a couple of years back...

Crazy he likes it the least out of the others, I own all 3 and like the go the most because of the screen size (maybe im just old) and the versatility of just carrying the screen as a tablet plus its the most powerful of the 3

PC Handhelds are on a roll right now... And they ain't stopping!!

RE: the mouse function, it IS shaped like a real mouse, or at least you hold it like you would hold an ergonomic upright mouse. I can understand wanting it to lie flat if those are the mice you're used to, but if you're struggling with hand strain, an upright mouse is a dream, and I'm glad that Lenovo chose to make this mouse ergonomic in that way.

PlayNite launching in Big Picture mode seems like a really good option as a game launcher for windows handhelds (and supports many different game libraries)

Bob does such fantastic impression/review videos! I highly enjoyed this overview of the Legion! My question for everyone is…If you don’t have a handheld device like this yet, which one are you thinking of getting of the 3, especially now that the OLED Steam Deck is here?

Thanks for the review Bob, love having your perspective.

I love starting my Thursdays with a Wulff Den video!

Just bought this today. Wish me luck boys

I'm still quite content with the Retroid Pocket 3+ I got earlier this year, but in another year or two I suspect I'll be on the market for a Steamdeck-level PC handheld. It's pretty awesome seeing how quickly advancements being made in that arena in the meantime, though - I can't wait to see what's available when I'm ready to start shopping!

Just as an aside, I have no affiliation with UGreen but I have a bunch of their various cables and chargers and have been very satisfied by them to the point where I check their selection before looking for accessories from any other company. Quality has been consistently solid and price vs. performance has been excellent. My stock Samsung charger started heating up when fast-charging to the point where it'd overheat and stop working, and despite it costing twice that of a stock charger, the UGreen charger and heavy-gauge USB-C cable I picked up as a replacement have been performing wonderfully and doesn't even get warm to the touch in the process.

The screen IS the main reason why I will buy it! My aging eyes cannot deal with just a 7 inch screen. I need to watch Netflix/Hulu/movies, Kindle book reading, Google play PC/Bluestacks, web surfing and anything I would do on a tablet. Gaming is only 50% of what I would use it for. I could care less about the fan sound because I’m 57 and don’t have the 20 something ears. The FPS mode looks amazing!! I can’t wait to buy it hopefully by January

I love how the OLED Steam Deck was announced two hours after this video came out

The fact that this doesn't have a keyboard attachment and a dock is astounding. Bag to hold all the attachments, versatility is really this thing's strong suit.

I love my Legion Go. Thunderbolt 3 means egpu support. So, I'll dock it to my TV with an RTX 3080 hooked up through a Razer Core X. So, 1440/4k docked, and then 1200/1600p in handheld. Meets all my gaming needs!

I need this for emulation ❤thanks for the video.

This thing feels like those gaming laptops with 2 GPUs and SSDs in raid, but last about 1h gaming. I like that theres differences between companines and they are both competetively priced for a higer end product. We'll see how the software support is for Lenovo.

When the next video comes along can you talk more about that mini pico keyboard? That thing looks super cool.

I get mad as a Sega fan, for how excited people get for hall effect sticks now when they were doing amazing Hall Effect sticks in the mid 90s 😂

I honestly think this would be great to get and mostly use as just a tablet. Pretty much impossible to find a 9 inch tablet that has even a little power behind it so I may just be getting this for that.

Screen size, mouse pad and detachable controllers sounds perfect! I've only had problems with my team deck was looking at selling it and grabbing this, but its pretty much $2000 NZD :o

Bob, i love your videos man. they're simply great. very entertaining 👍

I got the ayaneo OG a few years ago, have been looking at upgrading to something newer. There's the ayaneo KUN, Steamdeck OLED, ROG Ally, now this Lenovo Legion Go. I like this the most, would be easier to replace the tablet part or controllers, and table top mode is useful sometimes.

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One thing I think a lot of people get wrong about the Steam Deck (and by extension the Steam Controller) and its trackpads is that people seem to think that the trackpad is intended to be used just by itself for mouse/joystick emulation. Valve very intentionally included a gyro sensor and a ridiculously deep configurator so you could combine the two. Try-hards will say "flick-stick or death" with gyro always on, but I like to be more relaxed when I'm gaming, so I just have gyro set to activate when I touch the trackpad. It's the best of both worlds, like Lord Gaben himself took a standard twin-stick controller, a keyboard, and a mouse, fused them together, and made the Steam Controller. The software is where it's at, and the community layouts are usually pretty solid (with some tweaking to fit personal preference.) All I'm gonna say, Valve *really* should have included some tutorials for configuration that give examples of how to use it instead of relying on the community to act like Jehova's Witnesses. The irony is not lost on me that I am doing it right now because Valve still hasn't done that very simple act of educating their users on their products. 😂 It's been over a decade since the Steam Controller launched with the controller configurator API, and it's still all community based for the most part. Dualsense, Dualshock 3-4, and Switch controller users all would also benefit from such educational materials, as you can set buttons to be gyro activation. There's layers and layers more, but I'll leave the rest of that for KZfaq videos that already exist (a few of which I made myself, way back when the Steam Controller was still fairly new.)

Oh yeah Bob time

When I showed my family and friends my Steam Deck, they thought I got a fifth Nintendo Switch. If I get the Lenovo Legion Go, they'll be even more confused because of the detachable controller. Well, they need to learn to differentiate products because I'm getting one.

I've seen this Lenovo Legion a few times...I think this might make me try one of these PC handhelds out.!

Great review. Need that charger

I think you can turn on or off the controllers while they are disconnected after you power on the device. You just have to hold down Legion L (Left controller) or Legion R (Right controller) button for 7 seconds and they will turn on and pair to your GO

As you are the guy who has convinced me to buy 3 8bitdo controllers by (rightfully) praising the D-pads those controllers have, I would have really loved to hear a bit more about how the D-pads feel and how the comfort of using it compares to the other two PC handhelds referenced.

The Lenovo legion go looks like it will be my first handheld pc. Although I'm also still considering the steam Deck with the new LED screen. I know the steam deck isn't as powerful as the rog Ally or the legion go but all the optimizations that valve has done for is a major Plus for the steam deck in my opinion. The Lenovo legion go it's probably my first choice because of the sheer size of the screen.

Great Stuff, as always.

i’ll be waiting on this one bcus i am actually REALLY interested in this handheld but i want to wait for it to mature a bit before i sink stuff into it

I play a lot of VN so for me the Lenovo go works great and the screen size rocks and I am not struggling to read the font unlike my steam deck. I have been already using the screen with the controllers detached already when I do my VN. I am getting games load like no man sky and Pharaoh to test out some rts play. But so far for me the money has been worth it.

Perfect "portable handheld" for those who don't ever leave their house and only play at their desks

Really detailed review thank you my first and only pc is a lenovo so this is a very inciting option

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That's why i Like the Lenovo Legion Go form factor: the tablet mode. I'd never buy a handheld pc just for gaming, but I like the idea of having a handheld to play pc games. However, with the legion go, you can use the tablet only, with a really thin keyboard and mouse to go to class or to the cafe, just like you'd use an android tablet, but this time you have windows, so you can use software like pc version of microsoft office or even cad software (if it serves for anything in a less than 15" screen). For me something like the legion go offers the convenience of tablets and windows, with just a bit of extra clumkiness - i'd rather buy this to a more expensive ipad or samsung tablet any day of the week; but then i think how much more efficient would be to just bring my laptop around anyways.... I'm still deciding whether or not to go for these devices, but the LEnovo Legion Go is the closest from what I'd like to get, handheld PC related. Thanks for the video, Wulff, seems like nobody is focusing in the tablet mode for anything other than gaming, and you at least mentioned it.

I LIKE THAT NEW DESK MAT MR. WULFF

Wulff Den, come for the video, stay for the ad! Keep up the great work Bob!!

the fps mode is something i woudl expect from nintendo if they actually decided to insert mouse control. So simple yet innovative

after a few updates this handheld is the best one running batman arkham knight at full graphics and 1920p with 55 to 60 fps

I definitely agree with diminishing returns on resolution. While 720p of the switch and 800p of the steam deck is definitely noticeable even for the size, I think the 1080p of the ally is the sweet spot. 720 will definitely be better if you're aiming for performance since it's not that much worse than 1080 on handhelds, but there's definitely that point past 1080 where it starts to not really matter for most people. The one and only exception would be something like the pimax portal which is trying to do VR so the 4k resolution on the handheld is kinda necessary with it being so close to your face.

2 reasons I bought my Steam Deck. I needed an additional computer I can bring with me and will be ready to use in the back of my truck (semi truck driver) so first I wanted to support the company that kicked this up which you could argue was Nintendo but Valve is the company that really kicked the first field goal. And second the price to performance is the best in my opinion. Seeing competitors coming up like this I will continue to see as a good thing because it's going to bring new ideas and push competition down the road.

I've had by Go since 10/31 and haven't seen these heat issues, almost at all. Jet engine fans, yes. I think there is something wonky with that top USB port. I couldn't get any display output at all on the top USB port to an external monitor/dock. Open case with Lenovo and I had to hard reset the device, but it's happened more than once. I think the trackpad on the Go is well implemented. Like Bill on Nerd Nest said a few weeks ago, the larger screen makes using touch and on-screen keyboards a bit more usable than on the Ally...I agree with that.

I feel like a huge pro to this is how easily it can be adapted to acting as a standard laptop

I do agree with what you said about diminishing returns in regards to having such a high resolution screen on a handheld. Lenovo could have just went with the same resolution and refresh rate as the Steam Deck and cut the price down because I know for sure the Legion could not run most modern AAA games well above 70 FPS at low settings. Some of these companies aiming to get into the handheld gaming scene tend to focus on the wrong things when it comes to making one. We need more TDP, resolution and fan speed options through more optimized software on top of better design of the main body for better air flow. In my opinion, those should take priority when it comes to coming up with a Windows handheld.

The loki max has bad grinding on the sticks. Had to use some super 33 tape to make a smooth barrier. Works great after that.

Hmm I was holding off to find info about this. Glad to know about the heat issue. I got less happy with my asus with the sd card and other issues. And steam deck was weak imo. I honest just went back to my switch for now.

What was that phone you were charging with the little robot charger? Looked like the Red Magic? Love the more rectangular form factor.

I love that this video dropped as Valve also announced the Steam Deck OLED

I think this is exactly what I waited for my whole life, pretty much since there windows pocket pc (PDA) era > 20 years ago. How damn versatile is this omg and ith dualboot linux/steamOS, heck o.o dream finally comes true ^^

I have it on a Lenovo universal dock thunderbolt 4, which is an amazing dock everything works perfectly, running dual display with display ports, I never noticed it getting hot and nothing stopped working. I think those cheapy steam deck style docks don’t work as well, I had a lot of issues using those type of docks from Amazon with the ally.

Hall effect sensor detect magnetism of permanent magnet. old school analog stick use variable resistance which directly connected to the resistor.

Can’t wait for the ARM versions of these handhelds, just imagine the battery life.

Look at the little guy!

Me Levono come two day ago and omg is incredible!!! I love the screen and the graphics!!!! ❤❤❤

This is all in one PC on the go

thinking about it, id love to just have those controllers to use with my laptop

Im eagerly waiting for mine. A bit disappointed that my krder was delayed till nov 27 but ik it'll be worth it.

My goodness they just find a way to make these pc handhelds actually look ,, *good*

3:59 Bob I love you, but you compared the plastic to your aftermarket steam deck shell

QHD at that screen size is sheer hubris! 720p with a 90hz is the sweet spot for a screen that size

i love the mouse idea, depending on how accurate it is, it might make the device great for me, since playing planet coaster with ste trackpads of the steam deck is somewhat exhausting when trying to place something accurately

A lot of the features speak to me. The non vrr display kinda stinks but my Deck doesn't do that either and I have been great with it running at 40hz. This screen should support 48fps really well since that is 1/3 ratio for 144hz and the extra horse power will absolutely take you there. Sub 60 fps on handhelds is less noticeable in general in my opinion because the travel of objects between frames is much harder to perceive, so I honestly think at 48 fps this thing will sing. Seems like a surprisingly feature complete 3rd "luxury option".

Hope you cover todays news of the OLED SD? :)

The Legion Go is basically a mini Windows tablet. Looks like the iPad mini has some serious competition.

nice review. I plan to use it as tablet with own PS controller, so small size and good controller.

Bob, love ya but when you doing the Odin2?

Looks great! Buts there's just something about the steamdeck... Maybe it's steam os and the support Valve gives their handheld.

I wish gaming would make the switch to arm processing and had more games optimized for that. Trying to cram down pc hardware into handhelds like this, whilst cool as heck, could be way more efficient. That's my take on handhelds.

Thanks for Video Upload - Also is Lenovo Legion Go better as Asus Rog ally. Normal 144hz has Lenovo

Cheers for putting the product name in the video title. It's one of those little things that I respect way more than trying to make a clickbait-y open-ended title.

I have one. Works nicely but the Battery goes quickly. Might get a onexplayer 2 beard the battery is stellar.

Any info about the keyboard with the pi pico?

I wouldn’t sleep peacefully until you make a video about the Odin 2

I only clicked the video because the thumbnail looked so good.

I'm a big fan of Lenovo. They've done a lot of great things with their Acquisition of I b m's think pads and motorola. The moto z4 is highly underrated with its modular set up.

I travel for work. I love using this thing with the kickstand and controllers detached on the plane. I was just on a 5 hour flight playing Starfield at 60 fps while plugged in. I am also a work from home parent and don't have a lot of interest in sitting at my work space to play PC games at night. The legion go gives me so much flexibility. It's almost as powerful as my 3060 laptop in all honesty. I can get more fps because I can run games at 800p and they look as good or better on the small screen as 1440p. The Steam deck was amazing but struggled with so many newer games like Starfield. This is the perfect compromise in my opinion. Gamepass is also awesome to have on the go.

I really appreciate your review! I do have a question for your opinion. I have the Steam Deck and I adore it!…however, my desktop computer is an Apple and is severely limited for gaming. I’d like to get into the PC gaming field with Windows, but a stand alone gaming desktop is outside my price range. Would this be worth selling my Steam Deck and purchasing this because it DOES allow a Windows gaming experience?

Can you try installing tiny 11 to see if there might be a little more of a performance boost?

I want a keyboard cover for this thing. Hope someone makes that. Just make it the width of the screen so that it protects and is like a really small laptop.

The Hall Effect became a buzz after the joycon drift fiasco. People wanted a way to permanently fix their joycons and the hall effect sticks are what solved that.

Without rubbing one out for them Lenovo has been doing cool/weird/bespoke computers and stuff for quite a while so this makes sense; dual screen laptops, some of the first convertables, the trackbutton, some of the first consumer grade CAD machines, and a bunch of oddities come to mind

i hope that this makes Controller Mouse Hybrids a more common thing, as I'm one of the weirdos that hate WASD for movement but loves Mouse for aiming & yeah the Lenovo JoyCons having the slider be downwards is gonna end up in tragedy

Bob really said nah I'm not gonna wipe the screen down at any point lol

The reason they did that high of a resolution is because it will make low demand gaming super crisp and it allows perfect integer scaling at 1280 x 800(2:1), so the image doesn't get blurred for the higher end games.

I have a phone holder on my nightstand next to my bed. My Steam deck doesn't fit because it's too small vertically but this would fit perfect and pair it with a nice controller and I can just play it laying down in bed no problem not having to hold it at all.

You’re in the new LTT video 😮

2k144 is the big reason I ordered one😃, with RDNA 3 video decoder it's a streaming beast

After all which one I get the rog ally or the legion go?

This is so much versatile than ally or steamdeck. I can use this as my main Netflix player while travelling for example (without the controls). I can use it simply as a windows tablet when I don’t want to play any games. You can do that with ally but you ll have the controls attached, you can’t use it as a simple tablet.

Did you build the keyboard yourself ?

Somehow... The GOAT has Returned.

You can turn on the controllers by pressing the legion space button and the quick menu button for like 10 secs? and then they will connect

If it came in Blue, that would be amazing.

That mouse controller looks sooo cool! That’s the most unique thing I’ve seen in a pc handheld. All the other pc handhelds just look like the Steamdeck to me. No innovation. This? Actually looks great. If I had money I’d splurge. 😅

LOOK at the little guy!