The question is what do we do instead? Some people commit crimes out of desperation, some out of greed and some are just plain evil. Many crooks could be socialized, if caught early on and given a decent job and a split from negative influences, if caught early. However, that's something that only can be achieved in rare cases. Then what about people who chose to be evil out of greed, lust, hurt pride...? Also, if someone is pure evil, how can we prove that he is irredeemable and should be put down?

If prisons were turned into sweatshops: 1. No one will ever want to go to prison (because making fast fashion would be bad for their street cred). 2. Prisons will be self sustaining (instead of being a burden on taxpayers so taxes can be lowered). 2. Prisoners will come out with usable skills (instead of just bulky muscles, prison tattoos, and shivs made from spoons). However, MRI scans show that people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Psychopathy and Sociopathy have less gray matter in a part of the cerebral cortex called the left anterior insula so they don't feel empathy and guilt. (People with PTSD show abnormalities in the hippocampus, amygdala, and medial prefrontal cortex, which is an entirely different matter. Some defenders of narcissists seem to think that the brain is just one big lump.) Prisoners with this kind of brain should NOT be released back among normal people. (Perhaps one corner of the globe can be reserved for those whose brain's pleasure center lights up when they imagine others in pain.) I wish MRI scans were compulsory so normal people would be forewarned that they're dealing with a secretly sadistic being. Our society would be much improved if: 1. Narcissists, psychopaths and sociopaths are NOT allowed to become parents or have any dealings with children. 2. Narcissists, psychopaths and sociopaths are NOT allowed to become caregivers, counselors, managers, religious figures, or public servants. 3. Narcissists, psychopaths and sociopaths are NOT allowed to own guns (apparently, mass shooters are narcissists who flew into a narcissistic rage). I'm sure the list could be longer, but that's all I can think of right now. I've been posting this in the hopes that someone in power will see it and make it happen. Some people ask for sources, so here are a few: www.livescience.com/37684-narcissistic-personality-disorder-brain-structure.html www.livescience.com/39904-why-psychopaths-lack-empathy.html Also, I've learned that the US Military and Secret Service, and even Israel, the home of Krav Maga, are learning Systema (which is a combat system tested and proven by the Russian Special Forces for survival during war times, unlike Jiu Jitsu, Boxing, Karate, and other sport martial arts, which are all exclusively for one-on-one). I wish Systema were taught in schools (starting from kindergarten) instead of useless P.E. If everyone were skilled in self defense, there would be less kidnappings, assaults, and rapes because evil-minded people would hesitate to attack anyone, knowing they'll be in for a real fight, battling for their own lives. Here's a link about Systema: marylandsystema.com/systema-russian-martial-arts-is-one-of-the-secret-services-strongest-weapons/

If prisons were turned into sweatshops: 1. No one will ever want to go to prison (because making fast fashion would be bad for their street cred). 2. Prisons will be self sustaining (instead of being a burden on taxpayers so taxes can be lowered). 2. Prisoners will come out with usable skills (instead of just bulky muscles, prison tattoos, and shivs made from spoons). However, MRI scans show that people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Psychopathy and Sociopathy have less gray matter in a part of the cerebral cortex called the left anterior insula so they don't feel empathy and guilt. (People with PTSD show abnormalities in the hippocampus, amygdala, and medial prefrontal cortex, which is an entirely different matter. Some defenders of narcissists seem to think that the brain is just one big lump.) Prisoners with this kind of brain should NOT be released back among normal people. (Perhaps one corner of the globe can be reserved for those whose brain's pleasure center lights up when they imagine others in pain.) I wish MRI scans were compulsory so normal people would be forewarned that they're dealing with a secretly sadistic being. Our society would be much improved if: 1. Narcissists, psychopaths and sociopaths are NOT allowed to become parents or have any dealings with children. 2. Narcissists, psychopaths and sociopaths are NOT allowed to become caregivers, counselors, managers, religious figures, or public servants. 3. Narcissists, psychopaths and sociopaths are NOT allowed to own guns (apparently, mass shooters are narcissists who flew into a narcissistic rage). I'm sure the list could be longer, but that's all I can think of right now. I've been posting this in the hopes that someone in power will see it and make it happen. Some people ask for sources, so here are a few: www.livescience.com/37684-narcissistic-personality-disorder-brain-structure.html www.livescience.com/39904-why-psychopaths-lack-empathy.html Also, I've learned that the US Military and Secret Service, and even Israel, the home of Krav Maga, are learning Systema (which is a combat system tested and proven by the Russian Special Forces for survival during war times, unlike Jiu Jitsu, Boxing, Karate, and other sport martial arts, which are all exclusively for one-on-one). I wish Systema were taught in schools (starting from kindergarten) instead of useless P.E. If everyone were skilled in self defense, there would be less kidnappings, assaults, and rapes because evil-minded people would hesitate to attack anyone, knowing they'll be in for a real fight, battling for their own lives. Here's a link about Systema: marylandsystema.com/systema-russian-martial-arts-is-one-of-the-secret-services-strongest-weapons/

@@myeverdearestdarling5350 one of my favorite relatives was a crook and most definitely a psychopath! He was a much nicer person than two of my grandmothers and my own father! To me, narcissists are the lowest of the low. Psychopaths are dangerous, but not all break the law and of those that do many do not turn into serial killer, but rather crooks, or white collar criminals. Truth be told, anyone with any psychological disorder is unfit to be a parent, but that would rule out too many parents! The problem is however that many dysfunctional families pass on their toxic traits to following generations. In my case, this was because of WWII and my grandfather was the only functional/sane person left of my grandparents due to his inhuman mental stability! He might have been cold, uncaring and amoral, at times, but he didn't hold grudges either, not even to the ones that messed up his compatriots. He also took the law in his own hands multiple times protecting his family. You could see him as chaotic neutral.

Here's another question: How many career criminals actually want to "rejoin society in a constructive way". For career criminals prison is a vacation where they get fed, sheltered, and medically treated. When they get out they go right back to stealing, robbing, conning, etc. They don't give a shit about being your friendly neighbor.

Ty will use this in my assignment buddy :D

I think we need to abolish prisons. They do not rehabilitate prisoners and their only purpose is to make corporations rich off of human suffering, especially the suffering of minorities. The prisons we have today are rooted in post civil war convict leasing, and today private prisons make money off of how many people they can stuff in. Read Angela Davis' Are Prisons Obsolete? for more information on the disgusting nature of prisons, and why they need to be abolished.

I guess it's because the damage and harm you did to society and therefore, you must be punished for years until your prison sentence end. There's no rehabilitation in prison sadly... Just torture, suffer, abuse, rape on end. It's like a criminal playground. IMO, due to the environment, once the prisoners got out of jail, they're likely to commit crime or very traumatized(completely destroyed their mental health) and so broken.

Can’t wait for my 6th form!

I am currently reading criminology and it do had support the need of open prison and even that there are different level of criminal in prison who can learn from each other and even criminal are social made so, they should be rehab then, punish so, yeah the thing you had write above do had to be acknowledge by modern criminology .

Did you watch the video till the end? The experiment was fake... most humans are actually really nice :)

This experiment was probably trash. Within 1 day, the people lost self-awareness of the larping they were doing?

by not completely sound you mean being manipulated, forced and paid and told to act rough? The experiment is an absolute circus. While most of the people still declined, some leaving as early as before the start of the experiment even? Bunch of lies from a guy who wanted fame and would lie to the world to get it.

Yup

Zimbardo coaxed his students to act a certain way. It’s not that it wasnt sound, it was an outright lie

@@v12vanquish even then the guard students still followed it through.

This!

Also, humans are capable of cruelty, especially when they feel they will never suffer negative consequences because of it.

Hello also from 'town' - Manchester. Hope you ok !!!

thanks my guy 👍

If you can’t be good: be careful…

Hey dont be that good im jealous

Thanks, random nice guy from 3 years ago

unfortunetly this study is like a big fake xd but yhea we should change our prisons to seomthing more ethic and valuable

W….e supremacy would never allow this.

@@playablue Ah yes blame it on that and not the structural problems in your country. Americans are truly something

@@davidc. name those structural problems u speak of yet dont speak of it Lol Bye again

You're so right. The avg human is bad SMH

Ehh. I just think they were soft. They were college students trying to get a little money for the summer. They weren't expecting something so heavy probably. But when It all came to it, those conditions would more than likely shake up anybody as real as it was made to be. They just couldn't hang

Look around and apply the knowledge of that test now That's your true pass rate

They got paid $15.00 per day., it was supposed to be 15 days but was cut short

You didn't read the study to see what controls were in place. This research is seminal and repeatable. We have ethical guidelines and IRB reviews now to reign this in.

@@bamu8328 I studied the experiment in as much detail as possible when i was doing my psychology degree. This experiment can not be repeated due to ethics. It was poorly ran and poorly thought out to begin with and has blown any chance of running any actually important study on behaviour.

Actually you are 100% right, it is studied together in psychology as the same principles are involved so you made one hell of a conclusion. Good job

Does everyone realize its still in a effect psychology .?

The experiment is alive again in the form of quarantine hotels

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Humans nature doesn’t change

No it doesnt :) humans are usually really nice untill an ashole manipulates them into beeing or this case "playing" cruel :) and this usualy only works if they think that they are doing "the right thing"

Dude it’s nice but there is literally a virus 🦠

@@boku1143 that doesn't mean that there also isn't a social experiment underway though, right ?

For starters the man in charge of the project shouldn’t have been playing a role in the actual prison. He was supposed to be observing the guards but he was telling them “hey, you need to be tougher on the inmates” and giving them ideas like putting bags over their heads. He knew what he wanted the outcome to be so he was making sure it happened.

Researchers are supposed to follow certain ethical guidelines concerning experiment subjects. One of the most important is that the subject is free to leave the experiment any time they wish. This was violated by the SPE researchers. Completely unethical.

In any psychological study, the researcher must ensure that the subjects are able exit the experiment in the same mental state that they entered in. Mentally intact and secure.

He's evil I hate him

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was actually 10 guards 11 prisoners, which is a notable point as the guards actions could have been from a result of feeling overpowered by prisoners? just a thought

He didn’t want to stop it. His partner told him he needed to stop. He wanted to keep going.

lol same

You would be surprised what people will do when part of a group. You may be a nice person, but don't assume everyone is like you.

@@Sarah-nc1jb yes 100% you are spot on, and people also tend to think of themselves as better than the rest. We are all animals in the end, special cognitive and sane ones but that sanity is often the par tthat can be twisted enough to make us bigger savages than we can ever imagine We like to think how we would never do something like this but we give ourselves too much credit

@@nbassasin8092 I agree, that is why these experiments are important. To hopefully help us self reflect. So if we did end up in a situation at least we could recognize the dynamics.

@@Sarah-nc1jb exactly, ecactly, I have nothing to add really and I agree with everythimg so I can only give you my warmest welcome and keep having a healthy persoective on life as you do now 😊

@@nbassasin8092 That is very kind of you, take care.

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Good one!👍😂

Yes. Many will. Give someone a label and they tend to conform to that role. I'm a convicted felon and live with a TBI from a couple of young untrained and over zealous (to gain the approval of the lead guards) who slammed my head against a concrete wall and refused me medical attention. I am a trained EMT and I know the signs of a concussion, I was vomiting and had vertigo, numbness in my opposite side of body from the head injury, and had to fight to stay awake all night while the night staff just laughed at me. The next morning I was in court for my hearing, completely a mess, couldn't even read the documents I was required to sign. I was shackled hand and feet, sleep deprived, traumatized and terrified.