Here’s an A shift fire video if you would like to watch it. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e7NxhKp3tpmmd3U.html Just to answer a few frequently asked questions. 1. Broken Arrow Fire Department is a paid ISO Class 1 Department. 2. I don’t have any sort of go fund me information or any way to help the family. There was word that it’s a former firefighter. I can’t confirm or deny that. But y’all are great for wanting to help the family. 3. As for manpower, each engine and ladder have 3 personnel. Ladder 6 (the ladder on scene) had 2 riding, and one following in the brush truck. There were 3 engines and one ladder on scene. You can do the math. There were also 4 Firefighters between two ambulances that could help with fire attack.

I couldn't help but scream TURN THE HOSE ON!!!! The whole time. The lack of urgency is absolutely heartbreaking foe these home owners to watch.

As a fire fighter for several decades I was completely in shock. There is obviously a severe lack of training here. This was painful to watch

Old dude with the garden hose took down more flames than ladder company 6 and 8 combined.

Oh, my God, I can't even finish watching this. This breaks my heart. Them guys are so slow I don't think they know what they are doing

Their firefighting skills are like something out of the three stooges.

The fact that they gave the fire air by cutting the garage door without any water ready to go is complete insanity and I've never had a minute of fire training.

My Brother was a firefighter having since retired and moved to Australia where he now lives. Once he retired he became a tutor at Glasgow Airport, Scotland. He once told me he`s seen things no-one else should see. Firefighters the World over deserve our undying respect and should get it without asking. All heroes !

This is a perfect video of what not to do when attempting to stop a structor fire.

What bunch of clowns! Imaging how frustrating it must be for the homeowner to stand there and watch this lot stroll around as if they are out for a walk in the park. The delay in getting water into the second garage just about sums up the ability of this crew. Disgraceful.

I never seen firemans working so slowly in my life. They lost house because of losing time.

This is why we always critique a fire incident ASAP. Starting out with the positive what we did right, and what we could've done better. For this fire I would start out with the positive Miraculously no one was injured or killed. Let's start out with full PPE with SCBA on before anyone gets near the the hot zone. Forcible entry in this case with heavy smoke puffing out the garage, you need a hoseline backup. Need to consider assigning a truck crew to vent group on the roof. Have interior group check for extension in the attic, if not done already. Keep in mind that heavy black smoke like that pumping out of the garage openning is fuel and it will eventually ignite into flames. It was good they went with a 2 1/2" hose, but too late in the game. Plus it looked as though the engineer was very slow in charging that line with water. More training is definitely needed with the stressing of full PPE including SCBAs, fireground operations, and use of saws.

Been there for over 14 minutes and no water on the fire AMAZING

An absolute shambles from start to finish my heart goes out to the home owners

As a fire service instructor for over 25 years it pains me to watch this video. I routinely discourage public criticism of fire ground tactics,however, I pray the leadership of this department uses this video as a n opportunity to evaluate fire ground operations from a personal safety perspective, the betterment if this department and the benefit to all of the citizens they may serve. There are so many serious errors demonstrated here not fault of the individuals you see here but a failure of leadership at the highest level. Please act now before it's too late! As for the home owner this video serves as evidence of negligence, duty owed, duty breeched, foreseeability, significant total loss property damage. Sorry brothers just had to comment.

Я бы таких профессионалов выгнала с работы всех до одного ! С такой работой молоко прокиснет !

Хорошие были машины! Пожарные работают прямо скажем не спеша! С такими работничками весь дом выгореть успеет! Наши несравненно лучшие!

My heart goes out to the elderly gentleman trying whatever he can to try and slow down the fire. So sad.

The home owner was doing a better job with his garden hose.

Wow, thanks for taking that from bad to worse!👨‍🚒👩‍🚒🧑‍🚒🚒🚒🚒

You can see at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="310">5:10</a> the fire is in the garage and is starting to be starved for oxygen, you can see how the smoke comes out, then is immediately sucked back in. Need to have at least 2 lines ready at the door, them either lift the door, it if it's stuck, have 2 guys with k12s at each end. They both make vertical cuts up, the center section falls down, opening the hole and have the 2 hose teams knock down the fire. Then check for extension and hot spots. Mop up and go home. Edit: at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="345">5:45</a>, whoever is in charge of maintenance, should be shot! That engine should have started in 2-3 pulls. I maintain our power units on our Hurst tools, and we've started them in 10 degree weather with no more than 3 pulls

This is the perfect video on what NOT to do. Everything and I mean everything was absolutely wrong.

Lot of things could have been done different here, I reallly hope this department uses this footage for training on what not to do.

Much love to our Neighbors in BA from Tulsa! Still some of my favorite colors in a rig in the state.

Most lethargic firefighting effort I’ve ever seen

I couldn’t figure out whether the fireman were trying to put out the fire or just allow it to burn! Shocked at what I saw.

Deus abençoe e cuide desses profissionais que arisca suas vidas em prol das outras.

These guys needs to watch the movie Fireproof and watch how quickly they responded. They are fighting this fire like they’re paid by the hr.

Broken Arrow must stand for Broken Fire department I hope they use this video as a training exercise, so many mistakes were made. ( Oh and when you get to fire move your ase's a bit quicker)

they might as well have finished their coffee before arriving. Pathetic fire fighting. This was like watching The Three Stooges without all the slapping and punching each other.

I've seen some pretty bad operations in my 40 years as a firefighter, both career and volunteer and served from Probie to Chief of the Department and this scene would rate in the top 10 of clusterfucks I've seen! And I'll admit that I've caused a few clusterfucks myself, but did learn valuable lessons from them and used my mistakes to teach others what not to do.

Я как бывший пожарник поставлю двойка за такую работу.

I am not an expert in fires and I see and recognize that the fire department has a very good team to work with...both personnel and tools. What I can see the most is the very little will and empathy to promptly attend to the fire. I get the impression that you are interested in the whole house being lost. There was no lack of water, there was a lack of will.

I love the dueling cuts on the first garage door, absolutely no coordination between the two cutters. Horrible tactics and absolute dismal sense of urgency from anyone on this scene. Nice job causing more damage to the structure by venting the roof when there was literally NO SMOKE coming out of the vented ridge cap! I’m embarrassed for them…

Wow they were moving incredibly fast! A huge show of urgency said no one ever. Good grief

were seeing old head cutting the door and a newer fire fighter cutting the door. That's awesome to see the difference in training we now teach the triangle and fold in now but we used to back in essentials days teach a square fold in i thought that was amazing to see lol

What a mess. Horrible “tactics”. Embarrassing to say the least.

This is just confusing . Seemed dangerously unprofessional to my untrained eye.

If their insurance company sees these videos, premiums are quadrupling!

War ein guter Einsatz ,überlegt und ohne Hast gehandelt ! Good Job

In the first 3 minutes of this video , all I can think is that " they sure are taking their sweet time about confronting this fire and putting any real of water down!"

Seeing that first truck show up, relief! The house will be saved, minimal fire damage, smoke and water mostly confined to garage. Then the fire fighters exited the vehicles. Everything down hill from there. They should be rolling out crime scene tape, not fire scene.

I love all fire fighters and appreciate their dedication. . Watching this video and counting over 3 minutes until water was utlized? The Germans have the Striker 4×4, w made by Oshkosh. The Striker 4×4 offers “innovative fire suppression. The moment the Striker fire truck arrives it can dispense fire suppressants without having to get out of the vehicle. Im agreeng with the other comments. The lack of urgency is absolutely heartbreaking for these homeowners to watch. This was painful to watch. Old dude with the garden hose took down more flames than ladder company 6 and 8 combined. Shocked at what I saw. What I can see the most is the very little will and empathy to promptly attend to the fire

everyone is so calm and chill like attending a barbeque party

These guys are slower than molasses in January! I'm surprised the house didn't burn clear to the ground.

Responded to a fire much like this one, years ago. Everything worked in our favor. Hydrant was located just 3 houses down. Combination department and had several extra personnel at the station at receipt of alarm. Attacked fire from inside out, with immediate effective positive ventilation. Fire auto ventilated out a garage door, as aluminum panels fell away as we were attacking. Garage very crowded, as most are. That was probably the 2nd hottest fire I had been in. We quickly realized the door between living area & garage was open. Firefighter quickly entered & closed door, as we were pulling lines, and setting up for attack. Got a knock down on it, but one of the vehicles had lit up, which is a HUGE amount of BTU`s in a confined space.

They're moving like they know this guys house is toast!

every video i see of u.s firefighters they seem so chill like its ok that the house is on fire no biggie just carry on

All I gota say is great roof builder!

This house should not have had so much damage. The crew needs to go back and get retrained...

Wow!! Waiting for the flashover multiple times at that garage door!!

Мне нравится как они работают, не спеша, потихоньку и главное аккуратно

Commenting a year later sometimes seems pointless, but a lot of people still watch these videos. Nearly 30 years paid part time here and the hardest thing to watch in this video for me is the compromise of firefighter safety. High volume fast black smoke, 5 or 6 firefighters standing up in it with no regard or maybe understanding on how close that smoke was to flashing, no protective line during the cuts. Enough space above a panel door to get some cooling happening before anything took place. Pencil the door or use a tic to see how hot things are on the other side. Only luck prevented serious injury or worse. There are many ways old and new to fight a fire but read the smoke wrong and you may not come home. Stay safe.

When you give it air you gotta give it water too! Lines should have been in place and charged before the garages were opened up.

Having read pretty much all the comments and having done damage control/ fire fighting in the Navy as well as being a volunteer fireman ..I agree there was a lot of things that should have been done that were not 🤔 1st being the garage door .

This fire department must have a share in a fire restoration business

From the UK, I'm always amazed just how long it takes you guys just to get water onto the fire. Then to cut open the doors without having a team with a hose ready is just ridiculous. Would you perform better if it were a crew member's house? First guy out of the truck takes a hose to the front door then spends time untying it?...

I'm not eager to bash my brothers and sisters in the fire service but this video genuinely is difficult for me to watch. The actions in this video consistently went against everything I've been taught as a fireman, as well as showing very little understanding of fire dynamics. I hope they take the opportunity to learn from this and move forward in a positive direction.

Ok. All you Monday morning quarterbacks. I’m retired from that department and discussed this fire with the captain in charge. What you can’t see from this one angle is the garage had an extension to the rear with a vehicle in it. There were various containers of gas and other flammables inside the garage along with the vehicles. He only had himself and a driver on the aerial. The first engine had a crew of 3. They had difficulty in accessing the major part of the fire in the rear. They took hand lines through the front door and to the garage. The fire never got into the house. It was confined to the part of the garage visible in this one dimensional view, and stopped in the rear ( not visible to the camera). The fire from the back was very intense but the had made entry ( again, not visible in this video). The heavy smoke pushing out after the overhead door was breached was due to the fire attack from the rear and interior of the house. They had three vehicles on fire, additionally excess containers of gas and other equipment. At the 14 minute mark the fire was decreasing and the 2.5” opened up. Could it have been done better? Maybe. Manpower shortage plus getting supply lines in took longer than average. But they kept the fire out of the house. The fire load was extreme and had the garage and addition before they arrived. Unless you were there, you’re basing your criticism on a one dimensional video of a tough fire. Considering the situation they did a pretty good job.

Holy crap!! While they had a charged line as they went into the front door of the home....they sure didn't move fast enough to quickly chase the fire down as they had the door open - allowing it to vent a bit but it also gave the fire more heat to build on. The sad part was when the entered the #2 garage..they didn't even have a charged line before removing the door - thus giving the fire perfect opportunity to build hotter and advance!! Noticed the (Not in a rush) behavior while men and equipment moved - so where do all the older wal-Mart greeters go when they retire....too the Broken Arrow Fire Dept.?? My heart goes out to the home owner and the insurance company who has to assume this big loss.

I’m wondering, if the fire was in the garage, why didn’t they cut just one spot in the garage to vent and then use positive pressure via a fan from the front door or inside the house. Then attack the fire as it vents out the garage? That’s how we were trained here in Kansas

Just remove the “Arrow” in the name & call it the Broken Fire Department. They made it way worse than it should have been.

Props to the fire department for saving the basketball net.

Otimo trabalho equipe muito bom.😮

I see its contained to the garage/vehicles, but does anyone know what started the fire?

Would agree with previous comments, clearly, the lack of oxygen was holding back the fire, so surely before cutting open the garage door you would make sure that water was charged and available at the hose before proceeding.?

Desde Chile, que lentitud y desesperante verlos, acá en Chile en estos casos los bomberos lo arriesgan todos, todos corren y los vecinos cooperando , TODOS AYUDAN, horrible lo que veo !! VIVA CHILE !!! somos únicos!!

And grandma sits in the middle of it all 😂

Now they're tearing the door down to make sure the fire has enough O2. Bold strategy!

That is unacceptable that they cut open the garage and didn't have one dame fire hose ready. What a damn joke. I hate to be that guy but this is the absolute worst attempt at putting out a fire I've ever seen.

Why the hell would it take so long to get hoses started upon arrival. These firefighters looked like they were in no hurry and the time delay caused that fire to spread much more than was necessary. This department should be investigated....

What's with the triangular cut on the garage door? Is there a purpose? I thought they might use it as a flap of sorts in case it wants to flash with the new oxygen

Esses sim são realmente bombeiros parabéns, entra no fogo.

Good footage. Hope the home owners moved out of that fire district! Pathetic response. Clearly disorganized with no one in charge. I found the problem! 3 Chrysler vehicles.

I took a CTE intro to firefighting class my senior year of high school. We did our practice drills in teams of 3-5, everything from setting up scenes as IC to charging lines. This was almost a decade ago, but we would have had, at the very least, our 3 best teams in the front door of that house with a charged line before these guys even began thinking about venting the garage door. not even gonna talk about that damn garage door 😂

What’s Broken Arrows FPA rating?

I lived about 5 houses down and remember this. The hydrant was in my yard on the corner. Believe the older homeowner was a retired firefighter.

Painful to watch the lack of training, the lack of sense of urgency and the lack of sensitivity to the damage that someone's physical integrity or someone else's property was suffering. It is unfortunate that our life has to be entrusted to "teams" like this.

I love how the old lady was just posted up sitting in a lawn chair on the front yard like she was at the park

I hope that the homeowner was able to recover from this.

The phrase "All the dear no idea " comes to mind

Poor house holders my heart goes out to you.

If it could go wrong, it did. Training is a thing of beauty.

I was expecting a lost thermo-nuclear device, but okay. Thank you and thumbs up.

I am choked up watching this. I seen the comments about having insurance and "they'll be alright" What about the irreplaceable and being displaced? "Home is where the heart is"

Realmente esses bombeiros contribuíram pra que essa casa fosse destruída, nunca vi uma equipe tão letárgica e mal preparada .😱

I don’t know about Broken arrow but the Firefighters are B R O K E on training for sure.

My entire life I've had much respect for Police & Firefighters... till July 2021 when a small oven fire changed all that. I put it out with a fire extinguisher, and if you didn't know, they make the smoke much worse. I put a fan in the kitchen window to draw the smoke, which it did, but police & Fire still showed up. They destroyed my house busting down the front door, soaking not just the stove but everything. Opened closets in the far bedrooms, smashed out windows, tore down drapes and rods off the walls, etc... And a snotty nasty little female cop handcuffed me to the porch rail so I could not stop them from destroying my house. Fire was out 20 minutes before they even arrived!! Then packed up and left me with a HUGE mess. Better training needed for BOTH fire & police just to deal with smoke!

BROKEN ARROW is actually a US Military code terminology for when a Nuclear Bomb (Missile) has been lost.

Great video to show how not to fight a fire.

TYFYC BAFD. Thank you for saving my elderly neighbors home and valuables! She appreciates it a lot!!

Always remember if possible ventilate,ventilate, ventilate from the roof, never doors or windows. That's a possible flash over or backdraft waiting to happen, it would be great if every Firefighter could tour the National Fire Academy at Emmitburgh,Maryland.

It was hard to tell from this video. Was the FD there to put the fire out ? Or just make sure the rest of the house got destroyed too ?

Unbelievable incompetence in this fire department.

Not knocking this fire department, but this just shows that practicing to fight a fire should never happen on scene. Be it a vehicle accident, or other type of incident. Definitely something to learn from here is venting, and making sure you have lines charged ready to go when you need it most. This fire wasn’t a practice run at your local burn building used for training. This house could of had a lot less damage if you move quickly, safely yes but diligently. Timing is everything, and some of the tactics used like taking the garage door as a whole, perhaps if you can get to the release you could of maybe pushed the garage door up. Kind of like going to a vehicle accident always try before you pry.

Correct me if I'm wrong by all means, but I was of the assumption that fire fighters were meant to put OUT fires not make them bigger!

I didn't read all the comments yet but what started the fire?

14 minutes to get a second line charged? poor tactics, opening up garage doors without charged lines ready, roof wasn't vented, nozzle man on the ladder..filling the second floor pool? The term 'Broken Arrow' means imminent destruction...

Eu fico admirado com a lerdeza desses bombeiros. Depois que queimou tudo eles abrem a água.

Tras la rápida intervención de los bomberos, el edificio quedó hecho un solar.