Testing The Burris XTR iii

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How to perform a scope tracking test. Today we are testing the Burris XTRiii. Seems like a nice optic, but it's not worth a dime if you can't trust it to track well at distance. Learn how to do the test and see how this one performs. TEST on the range begins at 7:20
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@djcmeyer11 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, going back to the basics and fundamentals to make sure your gear works prior to wondering why you can't hit the barn door at 700 yards.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@SlavGuns 4 жыл бұрын

Joe, AWESOME video!

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@SlavGuns 4 жыл бұрын

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork and wow brain fart could not type on phone.. Joel. =)

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 жыл бұрын

Scope testing begins at 7:20 ...also, go subscribe please! My Mistake - I say 3.6" is a mil at 100y then I put text in there saying MOA. I said it right then wrote the wrong thing and by the time I noticed, I had already uploaded the video. Ugh, my old brain. lol

@michaelgarner4229 6 ай бұрын

Cool im gonna do this test this weekend

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@gc641 Жыл бұрын

Excellent

@87balexander 4 жыл бұрын

Is hysteresis ever a concern? If you dialed back to your 100yd zero, any chance POI would not be the same? The nerd in me wants to dial up and back down (then maybe up again!) to make sure the tracking is both plumb AND repeatable, but not sure if it’s really something that’s likely to be an issue.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 жыл бұрын

Hyster.... dang bro, I had to look that up. You're not wrong though, and I do always check that. I forgot to mention it in the video. I also did not mention checking the windage dials. Some people swear by that, however the vast majority of people in competition just hold over for wind and don't dial. Each to their own I guess.

@rout9291 2 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate how nice your range is! What part of the country you in?

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 жыл бұрын

Missouri

@RangerCaptain11A 4 жыл бұрын

I think you can true your ballistic calculator with the error you find in the tall target test.

@w.t.pstandforyourlife.5639 3 жыл бұрын

Wow bro cool video you nail it

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@samh1390 4 жыл бұрын

Question. If I'm doing this test where the bench is on an elevated position at the range, should I be using true horizontal distance to find the 100 yd mark?

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 жыл бұрын

Are you suggesting that the downward angle might cause the test to be inaccurate? You don't have to worry about angle at 100y unless you are really high in the air. I'd have to run the numbers, but you shouldn't have to worry about that.

@samh1390 4 жыл бұрын

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork Yes that was exactly what I was worried about lol. You read my mind. Thanks for the quick reply.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 жыл бұрын

@@samh1390 no problem. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@KiLLaDaTa 4 жыл бұрын

You shouldn't be shooting really high.....

@w.t.pstandforyourlife.5639 3 жыл бұрын

How wide is the target?

@bigfhands 3 жыл бұрын

i would explain all this with out using yardage that’s all relative to your load and rifle nothing to do with the scope. but it has been very helpful thanks

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 3 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

@tiputipu777 4 жыл бұрын

You should always do a mechanical tracking test without the rifle so you eliminate shooter error from the equation. Its always good after verifying everything to shoot and see how the shooter performs with the equipment.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 жыл бұрын

I can see the merit of that. Thanks for watching.

@gtzmwt 5 ай бұрын

Schmidt amd Bender has entered the chat! My ears! From listening, my pockets! They feel robbed!!!

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 5 ай бұрын

ha. thanks for watching.

@ncub13 4 жыл бұрын

A plumb bob works really well to make sure the tracking line is plumb.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 жыл бұрын

agree. Thanks.

@SlavGuns 4 жыл бұрын

Oh, really good idea... but then you also need to plumb up your scope/rifle

@mrjeffjob 10 ай бұрын

Unless the wind is blowing

@bryanmarks4070 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video. Check out TiborasaurisRex. He has a tracking test stick like your level. Marks a line every 25 millimeter on the level and scope at 25 meters away. 25 Milllimeters at 25 meters equals 1mil. Lock the scope in a vise and dial up. Check out his Arken 4-16 tracking test video. He goes over his method for checking tracking. That’s what I have switched to to test scopes.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I can't watch that guy. Too wordy for me, but I acknowledge he knows a lot of stuff.

@bross63 2 жыл бұрын

That test only shows where the reticle tracks relative to the changes in elevation and/or windage dials of the turrets. To learn how your scope actually tracks you have to shoot groups at original zero and then shoot groups with the turrets dialed in specific increments. Then when the actual point of impact distances are measured between your zero group and the other group(s) you see the real tracking of your scope and learn what percentage tracking error your scope has. All scopes have tracking error, no matter the brand, model, or cost. Even Schmidt and Bender, Nightforce, etc have errors in tracking, but those higher quality scopes typically have much smaller percentage error than lesser quality scopes. Only by knowing the tracking error of your scope and then applying that tracking error into your ballistics/firing solutions calculations can you be assured of knowing what you will get when you dial in an adjustment on your turrets. This is obviously more important as the distance to target increases. For long range shooting it’s a critical step.

@spartus56996 4 жыл бұрын

What rifle are you shooting ?

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 жыл бұрын

Custom rig. Defiance action 6.5CM. Bartlein barrel. Trigger Tech trigger. McMillan stock.

@peeholestinger 4 жыл бұрын

You had it correct. 1 MIL = 3.6" @ 100 Yards, 1 MOA = 1.47" @ 100 yards.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 жыл бұрын

yeah I know. I said it right then wrote the wrong thing and by the time I noticed, I had already uploaded the video. Ugh, my old brain. lol

@tyson9539 4 жыл бұрын

Uhh I think you mean 1 moa =1.047" @ 100yds

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 жыл бұрын

Tyson LOL sucks to correct someone and then get corrected. 😉 I’m digging the irony. Let’s just not forget that we wouldn’t be having fun unless I screwed up first!

@tyson9539 4 жыл бұрын

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork I get what he was saying, was probably just a typo anyway. Just wanna make sure a new enthusiast isn't misinformed. Love the channel Joel!

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 жыл бұрын

@@tyson9539 Thanks!

@joed3539 Жыл бұрын

When do u put the bubble level on

@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын

The tall level? You use it to make sure the target’s vertical line is square.

@joed3539 Жыл бұрын

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork sorry I meant when do u put the bubble level on the scope

@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын

@@joed3539 I usually mount that when I’m mounting the scope to the rifle.

@joed3539 Жыл бұрын

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork thank u

@ArkansasBadBoy Жыл бұрын

Refreshing to see someone talking and using mils

@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын

Definitely commonplace in this community. 👍

@ArkansasBadBoy Жыл бұрын

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork Good to hear. New to your channel but so far all the content is presented as it should be. Good stuff.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын

@@ArkansasBadBoy thanks. Glad to have you.

@2whl4re 3 жыл бұрын

This is more a test of your expected 1000 yard dope than a tracking test. Tracking would be to shoot, dial up 10 mil, shoot again, measure for 36". Dial back down, shoot to test return to zero. That's a vertical tracking test. Dial right or left 1 mil, shoot. Dial back to zero, shoot. Horizontal tracking. Can do right or left horizontal at each vertical level if you want. That's the purpose of all those boxes on the target you were shooting at. If you really want to test the scope & rifle, dial, shoot one, dial, shoot one, and go around the whole target that way until you have a group at each box. Tracking, repeatability, and return to zero. Just my opinion. Your rifle, your target.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your opinion. All I care about is vertical tracking at the top of the range. Everything else is close enough to not matter at short distances.

@eddiewallin3157 9 ай бұрын

Alot of people can't handle the thought Of how good some scopes are because They spend four thousand or more on the one they use in competition !!

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 9 ай бұрын

thanks for watching.

@RobsReloading Жыл бұрын

It's kinda wierd you are shooting off a nice bench, yet have no backstop behind the target?

@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын

It's a private range. Why is it weird?

@RobsReloading Жыл бұрын

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork with that nice shooting area, I would have expected a nice backstop to prevent rounds from exiting the rear of the range.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын

@@RobsReloading guess when you own all the property for a long ways, you don't have to worry about that. Also, downrange there's a very large hill that catches the bullets. Thick woods beyond that.

@RobsReloading Жыл бұрын

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork looks like a sweet setup. Would like to build one for my own range. BTW excellent content on the channel, subscribed today!

@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын

@@RobsReloading thanks!

@Courageous_Lion 2 жыл бұрын

So it must be worth a dime from what I saw. Your statement is miss leading. I interpreted it, until I watched the video, that it wasn't worth a dime because it wouldn't track well.

@rustynut1967 4 жыл бұрын

You lost me when you said you was testing for 1000 yards. The yardage doesn't matter, your testing tracking and verifying your turret is calibrated.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 жыл бұрын

please explain. I'm always open to learning new ways of doing things.

@rustynut1967 4 жыл бұрын

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork You tested to make sure that what ever you dialed on your turret had that point of impact shift vertically on your target and not going left or right as you dial up. Dialing up 9 or 10 mil would verify the same thing as long as the point of impact was 9 or 10 mil (what ever you dialed) above your point of aim. 1000 yards really has nothing to do with it.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 жыл бұрын

rustynut1967 ok I see what you’re saying now. 1000y is just a common distance in competition these days so I picked it for that reason. I would argue you need to test as far out as you can, because errors sometimes don’t show up at closer ranges. Call it 8-10 mils vs. 4-5 if you want. Same concept.

@rustynut1967 4 жыл бұрын

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork That makes sense.Going further out would pretty much assure anything closer would be fine. When you originally measured 36" I thought you would dial 10 mils at 100' to verify.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 жыл бұрын

@@rustynut1967 Yeah there were a couple of mental errors going on in this video admittedly. I should have just used a .308 for this test and everything would have been fine. I switched to a 6.5CM at the last minute and it complicated things. I'm only 45 but I think my brain is like 70 years old...

@robertdillard4844 2 жыл бұрын

Did it return to zero? Seems like you stupidly left that out

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for calling me stupid. Great way to earn respect.

@robertdillard4844 2 жыл бұрын

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork not looking for your respect. I'm looking for objective reviews that aren't bought and paid for by manufacturers

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 жыл бұрын

@@robertdillard4844 I didn’t like this scope. Thought I made that clear. Also, you’ll get a lot further if you’re kind to people. Remember kindergarten? Do unto others…

@robertdillard4844 2 жыл бұрын

I was watching another of your reviews before this one. When you got to the part where you told us how they heavily discounted the optic for you to buy it, I stop the video and moved on. Admittedly my comments here were influenced by that video as well. Good day to you sir. I have no further need of this conversation

@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 жыл бұрын

@@robertdillard4844 you’re missing the point entirely if that’s all you’re paying attention to, but that’s typical of most complainers. (Selfish. “Do what I want or i have no use for you”)