Well it lost, so it was correct in that assessment.

Similarly, it likely fought Billy blade to blade since he dropped his gun in the water and brandished a machete.

@@thepiousskeleton6046 Yep. That is why the Predator took Billy's whole spine and skull. Billy impressed him.

In the original draft of the story, Dutch was supposed to beat the Predator in the fistfight rather easily. Any other action star at that time would have been happy with that, but surprisingly, Arnold said to the director that it didn't make any sense. "He's a monster, I'm just a man," he said. Arnold proposed this scenario instead.

@@peterseaboldt1250 Arnold knows how to give the people what they want.

Yes, but he is also looking at Dutch's skull to make sure it isn't damaged in any way, as he understood this is the most prized trophy of them all, and the one he really wanted.

Uh no - he's observing the mud on Arnie's face that was making him "invisible" and recognising that he was facing another kindred hunter.

@@Lakrimoz Uh no, but thanks for tyring

@@TheRscorp Uh yeh - that's why he turns arnie's face to look at the cheek covered in mud. Its ok to be wrong.

@@Lakrimoz That literally has nothing to do with why the Predator regards Arnold. The other two posters are right, you are wrong. Nothing personal, but not even the shooting script supports that idea.

Never thought of it in that sense. Great call.

I'd say the Terminator was the best Sci Fi/ Action movie ever made because it broke new ground. But this was the one that solidified Arnold as the biggest Hollywood star of the 80s.

@@lewisner we all love T2, without a doubt it's an iconic movie. But Arnold Schwarzenegger is playing a cyborg, almost invincible and with no emotions. For me "Predator" is the best of all Schwarzenegger's movies because you could see a real, vulnerable human (not even a cliché hero). A soldier facing a fearsome and powerful enemy. And the very moment you see and hear his battle cry, you realize that he is no longer just a soldier. He turned into a warrior.

Agreed , T2 comes close though.

I can’t fault this opinion

prey better

Sometimes, once in a while, you get a movie made by people who don't assume that the average person is an infantile moron. (Usually, those are the ones who aren't infantile morons themselves.)

I wish they would've deleted the few seconds where Dutch looks up at the log hanging over the Predator. I feel like it ruins the surprise for the audience. I think it would have been much more powerful to see Dutch's feigned surprise, the kick of the release mechanism, then a one second shot of the log already in free-fall before crushing the predator. That always felt kind of "spoon feedy" to me.

@@nonconsensualopinion If i were to delete ANY portion of the film, it would be the first minute or so. If you don't see the shot of space, it just makes the first half of the film SO much better and more mysterious.

You know the soundtracks were so much better back then. Predator, Top Gun, Rocky, The Terminator, Robocop, Beverly Hills Cop.

It was a magical time. Dialogue was still better than most films today.

So glad they ditched the original orange prawn thing, even if it did have JCVD in it.

@@Ksouel Apparently van damn couldn't take being in the Predator suit so opted out of the movie.But I always wondered if it was the original suit or the Final suit in the movie.

Thanks to Stan Winston and James Cameron! 🙂👍🏼

looks like a rastafarian

RIP to the life of the Predator: Kevin Peter Hall.

I knew he seemed familiar! Though I couldn't find any info... Was it mentioned in a documentary?

Sadly he is no longer with us....died early 90s I think. But yep, the chopper pilot is the predator....did the 2nd one I think too

I missed that detail.. Thanks for pointing it out! Kevin Peter Hall was incredible as the Predator. RIP Kevin.. 😔

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r8iPi8mHrLbDd3k.html utube link to the pred making of, yes the chopper pilot was kevin and yes, he did the pred2 movie too

Wow...I had never paid attention to the pilot. Talk about making his money.

I am so glad that they didn't go with Van Damme and that original design. It was awful!

@@mermaid_at_heart213 another fun fact: Van Damme left Predator and went on to do a certain film called Bloodsport!

From what I hear, it's a little more than just a costume that translated poorly. There's a rumor that they were asking Van Damme to do stunts (while wearing leg extensions, because he's only 5'10") and he quit because some of those stunts would've broken his legs if even one tiny thing was wrong. How true that is, I don't know.

@@SpearM3064 it's very true.Van Damme confirmed that in an interview that he told them this and that even one of the stunt men got hurt.He said it's the best thing they did redoing the creature design from scratch and getting rid of that awful initial costume.

Peter Hall also played a lb alien in Without Warning

Will forever be held up as a masterpiece. It's a timeless classic, ageless.

Huh. Interesting view point. I always thought the Predator was inspecting Arnold's skull like "Yeah, this is gonna look good in my trophy case back home" lol

@@ifti1311AFAIK, that's pretty much it. The Predator is a trophy hunter, not a phrenologist.

Yeah the movie takes a left turn about 1/3 of the way in, and catches you off guard. It's great!

Effects still hold up, so it feels a kind of timeless and not dated. What a movie!

The crazy thing is the first monster was stupid so they pulled the current predator out of their ass during production and became one of the best movie monsters of all time.

And as the last Predator movie (a total fucking shitshow) showed, you cannot CGI gore and get the same effect, it looked like total trash and wasn't scary at all. I'm sure it took alot less time and effort to do but it ruined the movie.

@@manhalen7046 "Predators" was a freaking *fantastic* Predator movie though. Had _all_ the right classic Predator elements, the hunting, the group not knowing what's going on, and the twist of being put in a hunting ground of sorts as well as the conflict between clans/factions of Predators. By far, the 1st and "Predators" are the two best Predator movies. So it goes to show that not all new movies are bad. But yeah, the last one totally sucked.

Just like Alfred Hitchcock’s Psycho.

For me Predator is a movie about reversals. The invisible killer who hunts hunters becomes the blind hunted.

Agree.

Perfect description

Just like The Prestige. Yup. Same type of film.

predator : i see....sending your friend off to fight me all on your own........how gutless billy : what? how was that gutless? predator : because.... suicide is the coward's way out billy : can we fight now? predator: son of a.......YES!!!

That's not true. They do prefer hunting humans over most species, but they consider the Xenomorph to be the ultimate prey.

@@JustSomeGuywithEpicGrasses Exactly that's why they were bred in the first place in Yautja lore and they used humans as sacrifices for the purposes of breeding more of them. Glad someone is out here spitting facts instead of drivelling pure shite and selling off false info to those who don't know any better.

Completely made up, literally nothing in the lore that supports this especially considering there's an actual scene in AVP explaining the lore between the Yautja and Xenomorphs where they are literally using Humans as sacrifices to breed more Xeno's who are the ultimate prey.

Before the title "Predator", the filmmakers called the movie "Hunter".

A lot of the old school Predator comics would have, or.. COULD have, been an excellent cinematic universe. but it's all cocked up now

@@MC-zr6gc Turned a brilliant suspense-action thriller into a schlock monster franchise.

@@dudermcdudeface3674 the comics were always schlock. the novels on the other hand were great.

Which other comics have Dutch in them? I've read quite a few. Some having Dutch's cop brother. I don't remember Dutch actually being in them. Was it more recent?

No offense to her at all. But i was watching along as if i didnt know it was an alien and realized how trippy and confusing the first half of the movie becomes 😂

@@danielreyes2796 Yeah idk if she missed the beginning or what, but I think the original cut was supposed to not have the spaceship at the beginning? But it was too confusing. So kind of fun seeing this reaction.

@@NoelleMar well did she not see the spaceship in the opening titles that flies by and drops a pod off? lol

@@criticalmas7770 that’s what I’m saying, I guess she didn’t see it? Lol

@@NoelleMar If she is anything like my GF - she would have been all like 'oh look how pretty the earth looks"...and totally missed the entire spaceship/pod launch etc. lol I mean, I have never heard anyone comment how pretty the water is after Arnie has just fallen over a waterfall while being chased by a deadly alien hunting machine that kills for sport lol.

And this is explicitly stated in the sequel. Lions, tigers, bears, oh my.

@@TounushiSure, but it's pretty obvious from the first movie as well.

Dude it's guys shooting up nothing in the forest it's still macho it's just clever because of the predator Arnold cracking one liners and going head to head with the predator is very macho. But still fun

​@@jdogjohnson9038 Dude I never said it wasn't macho. From the genre, to the hero, the villain and the climax, it subverts the usual tropes typical of action movies at the time, that was my point. If you don't care and still enjoy it, cool beans

@@implicitmintjulep it's all good here.

@Patrick Bryan take responsibility dude!

Patrick bryan you know the truth mate, the strength of this movie is hard to duplicate 😀

Would be hilarious if she makes the same sound as the predator roar

And the “what the hell are you”. The laugh was Billy’s laugh.

and 7'2" tall Kevin Peter Hall played the PREDATOR and Helicopter pilot also played the sasquatch in Harry and the Hendersons

Peter Cullen on how he made the Predator noises: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ndaam6xeyripZpc.html

I thought Vincent Price had the last laugh. Huh.

James Cameron was the one that came up with the face. They had to pause production because the original predator design wasn't working and Stan Winton was brought on board. James and Stan were on their way to the Japanese's Premier of Aliens when James quip, "You know, I've always wanted to see something with mandibles."

Oh wow that's awesome! Thanks for the info & look forward to checking it out.

Omg I was in Puerto Vallarta once and never knew … totally missed out!

I will Be there soon I’m Gonna visit it !!! What do you suggest to do on the filming location is the helicopter where they found the bodies without skin ??

@@cristianplaza1466 I don't know about the helicopter, but the area is called the El Eden Canopy Zip Line. The enemy base set is a restaurant where you can have a nice lunch and some drinks, and it's right next to a natural waterfall and pool you can swim in. The zip line itself is a series of platforms with some hiking involved. If you do the zip line, make sure you bring and drink enough water; it's very easy to get dehydrated in that jungle heat. It's also just about 30 minutes outside of Puerto Vallarta, so it should be easy for you to find some local city tours, or maybe take a boat ride out to the bay.

@@Polymathically thanks 🙏 a lot I will be around that area until November because the ship 🚢 where Iam working will dock in Puerto Vallarta every 10 days

This why I can't ever watch a movie with a woman other than some romance comedy shit

"I have so many questions." What possible questions?

exactly what i was thinking lol

Some things modern day women will not understand. they don't understand things like the code of honor, battle cry, wanting to die on your own terms and wanting to die with honor.

@@mahamrityumjay that is incredibly misogynistic my guy. Women are more than capable of understanding all of those things

Yeah, sadly this is not the type of movie that could be made now. At least not as it is. For today's fresh out of film school writers and directors, there would be a burning need to "fix" and/or "update" it to conform to the present day climate. Producing things like "The Predator" which lost the most money of any Predator movie. I have my doubts "Prey" will do much better.

@@DocMicrowave TBH, I had high hopes for Prey, but wow does that trailer look awful. We shall see... I am being completely serious when I say that I'm pretty sure I have never been so excited for a movie only to be let down on a level I would never have imaged with The Predator movie. They really have crapped all over the awesome first film and pretty awesome 2nd film all these decades...

@@Niarfor Sad indeed. Best to remember the original as it was. Thoroughly entertaining. And more importantly, memorable. It just can't be redone in anyway that would surpass, let alone equal it. Based on the stuff coming out now a days, I am fully convinced of that. With the exception of course of the new Top Gun movie.

Far too much toxic masculinity on show for today's audiences 😉

@@RandomShart Not only that but the low testosterone supposed guys on Hollywood now can't even understand on how to make a film with some macho men without cringing in their little pants and trying to make scenes that make joke out of them for supposedly being so ridiculously masculine.

I would say ironic, in that the predator's face was meant to look somewhat like a vagina.

I laughed for a good 5 min 😂

She looked like aoc after the Supreme Court decision

Yeah, the predator was taking their spines for their autism powers. What's not to get.

it's a damn masterpiece, with each year it passes this film just proves how much better it is than critics thought, it doesn't age either, 35 years old, one thing I've noticed after seeing it many times..other than it being the easiest film to quote, is the cinematography, the camera angles and scenery are very well done, and of course the music and costume, I can't think of a better costume, and they did this with a giant man climbing around in trees inside a hot humid jungle! there's a reason why no other predator film comes close

Yeah I know right? What's so confusing with this movie? I don't understand her confusion, it makes me confused. Haha!

Seriously! An alien comes to the planet, he hunts the soldiers, Arnold survives.... lol why is she so confused

first time watching this, you wouldn't know it's an alien or anything else. kind of hard to see movies like it's the first time after you've seen it a bunch. the only clue is the very beginning assuming you don't skip all that intro

Kinda hard to say "skill" when he can take a punch from Arnold like it's a slap and has the strength of 10 Arnolds himself. Still super lopsided.

@@GTRNights When the soldiers have weapons he uses weapons, when Arnie is unarmed he fights him unarmed, kinda fair in a way. Not sure that is respect, perhaps just the preferred method of predating for sport. I mean he probably has a spaceship to get here, he could probably just nuke everyone from orbit if he wanted to kill them, but where's the sport in that?

Not to mention Dutch was unarmed. No sport as far as the Predator was concerned. So he too disarmed to (sorta) come down to Dutch's level. Doing that would increase the value of his skull as a trophy.

@@WheresWaldo05 you don't need to know, more like. This stuff is interesting to others, so shut it.

Same like how can you be so confused by this movie its so simple that confused me

When she finally figured out the Predator's blood was green I facepalmed. Jesus did she not see all the green blood in the beginning when he was patching himself up with the medkit? Lmao.

@@brandonhill8501 ya the woman was putting her hands in it ffs

I can understand if you've never seen this or any other Predator movies. It's not exactly clear it's a fucking alien survival horror while they are blasting other army dudes in the jungle.

one of the most iconic in movies history

I love this film but I would never say it has an overly complex script so her constant bewilderment regarding the basics of the plot was a little surprising. She usually seems sharper than that but I guess everyone can have an off day 🤔

@@eddhardy1054 For sure. No shade on her, obviously, I definitely have my "derp" moments now and then; everyone does. But this one really surprised me. Yeah, it's an almost laughably straightforward concept & story through & through. The 80's and 90's were the absolute zenith of the paradigm, successfully walking the precariously thin line between uncomfortable cheese & emphatic bad-ass 😅

I can see it. Man movies use alternative views as a way to help the audience differentiate between characters, for instance scenes only seen in black and white might indicate we are seeing the killer's perspective, or seeing everything in greyscale except for a single piece of clothing in red might indicate we are seeing the movie from a truly neutral perspective, or zooming in of the horror, for instance. We saw this in the Terminator when we witnessed that his point of view was all in red for example. It is a type of movie storytelling technique that does not perfectly translate. It also makes perfect sense if you are seeing this from the perspective of someone not understanding the alien technology + genetics. If the Predator is using heat vision googles, for instance, we might reasonably assume that "it" might not have them on at all times. I, as an active duty soldier do not walk around 24/7 with night vision googles one. And honestly, I would estimate I have them on maybe 0.001% of the time, favorably. Additionally, part of the point of the movie is to demonstrate just how unknown this thing is. A lot of us have the advantage of knowing some of the generic lore now, but if this is the first you have really seen of the . . . universe, it is very understandable.

LMFAOOOO

I will say though that I don’t think the mud would successfully mask that heat signature for very long lol. Plus there is the interesting question of how much is his vision vs the mask, which you don’t know until he takes it off. Even then, it’s sort of confusing. But I really like the contrast. I did think it was pretty obvious that the predator could see movements and vague outlines of shapes as WELL as anything giving off a heat signature. However, I see countless people completely unable to understand seemingly obvious metaphors, themes, and character motivations, often chalking it up to bad storytelling or completely misinterpreting it. I’m just noting this because I rarely see comments by people stunned at someone’s idiocy or whatever when this is the case.

Yeah, I was beyond frustrated!!!

Lol

She did ask if it was a device or what it naturally saw and then deduced that concealment didn't conceal. They could not do the heat vision shots in the jungle because it was so hot.

Omg...thank you. Its sci fi, just go with it lol

never watched movies like this with your GF? LOL

Sonny was the real predator..

Wow 😮….the more you know

Funny thing,Langham was in the movie Action Jackson with Carl Weathers.

@@dialecticalmonist3405 Where are you getting that info from? There is no mention he did that in any of the trivia section on IMDB or the internet.

Wasn't he "Billy Bear" in the movie 48-Hours too?

I hear you “hmm” but I guess if you never seen Predator or Terminator you’ve probably been living under a rock.

unless a weak person uses an aerosol can as a flamethrower and gives the predator a bad hair day :)

@@thebluelunarmonkey 🤣🤣🤣

The predator shoots the injured character in the head. This was the last soldier killed by the predator probably because he was keeping Dutch too preoccupied from fighting the Predator. Looks like the predator will eliminate injured prey if they get in the way of their sport.

I always had the impression he was inspecting the trophy he expected to add to his collection. A veteran Predator must become a fine connoisseur of crania.

I thought the Predator was checking Dutch's face because he saw little to no fear.

I see it as checking Dutch's bone structure to see if he could withstand it in a fight. It thinks "good enough," and drops him to go take off its stuff and square off.

@@-Gurza- You mean it's like a face-off?

@@davidcopson5800 The Pred wanted to see what Dutch could do hand-to-hand after looking at Dutch's "sculpt;" much like the reason it didn't outright kill Dutch the moment it caught him, it was fascinated with him by that point.

There is a scene where they are all trying to figure out its motivation and Billy mentions its acting like a hunter. That pretty well explains it. The movie could have easily been titled The Hunter. When humans hunt they usually hunt for large game or dangerous animals and many times keep the skulls/ bodies as trophies. Not hard to figure this stuff out.

@@cesarmedina7080 I think part of it is that many reactors' exposure to "alien culture with weird values" has been, until now, mostly "aliens are basically you except with improbably-successful communism, Arthur-Clarke magic, and everyone is gaaaaayyyyyyy!" It's almost never "they are gross, ugly, extremely violent, and don't see you as people until you prove otherwise."

@@cesarmedina7080 the original title was Hunter

I've noticed with younger audiences they 'don't get' older movies. Apparently movies today explain everything in detail so there are no questions. But this movie as with most it is obvious what is happening on screen, I think younger audiences overthink things. And that isn't a slam I think it is just audiences in different eras view things differently as they've grown up in a different time and changed culture.

100% agreed. Whenever it was said, I was like 'What's not to understand'? I'm happy I grew up in the '60s and '70s...

That is not fair. This movie was specifically designed to not answer the many questions it presented. If you would have actually watched this at the time it came out, without all of the assorted lore that came out later, you would have also been just as confused, because the point was to have such alien, unknowable motivations.

@@josephbeckett2330 I actually DID watch it when it came out in the theatres - I was 23 years old at the time (58 now). It didn't confuse me one bit. Your move. ;)

@@josephbeckett2330 the only confusing thing in this movie is “what is the predator” that’s it everything else is self explanatory. It just so happens “what is the predator?” Was one of the only things she wasn’t confused by (she probably had knowledge going into the movie)

That is not exactly true. The technology to represent it was much more limited at the time, and it should be specifically noted, (we learn later), that the Predators specifically come to areas that are exceptionally so hot that it is noteworthy.

@@josephbeckett2330 What is not exactly true? That their vision is based on heat signatures or that they can detect movement in a limited capacity? Because both of those things are clearly represented in the film (Dutch being invisible to the Predator when mud masks his heat signature and the Predator shooting at moving objects when Dutch throws them to distract him).

When he couldn't see Dutch, that proved that the predator was relying too much on his equipment, instead of realizing that there's no way the human couldve ran off so quickly.

Lol

@@Diegesis His mask gave him infrared vision. You can see the difference when he takes it off.

Especially when it's so glaringly obvious.

She went in blind not knowing what a Yautja was and never watching anything predator related before so it makes sense that she would be clueless in the first two acts when the movie does not really tell you anything about the Yautja, it's purpose for being there or why it was doing what it was doing. Even after the movie there were definitely questions left unanswered but that was all apart of the beauty of this particular film. One of the best action flicks ever.

The handshake felt round the world

Lol Carl Weathers

Noticed the similarities as early as like 5 years old watching these flicks

And the Avengers movies

Yep. Movies that were 100% worth watching nothing at all like we have now.

Yeah cos The VVitch and The Lighthouse were so easy to follow… there have always been audience members who needed shit explaining to them and there will always be stories that certain audience members struggle to follow, that’s no reflection on “modern movies” it’s just the way it is

It sure blew this youtubers mind. Clueless...

This movie has aged so well it's one of the best aged movies of the '80s in my opinion.

And not "Woke".

they start the (movies) crossover with predator2, in the end u can see an alien skull in the preds mothership

Huh, that never occurred to me. It always made sense to me as particularly intense war paint

It could’ve been that. I just figured that because he was seeing soldiers such as himself being hunted and skinned he decided that if he was going to die he’s not going to be strung up and skinned. Of course no one anticipated the Predator just ripping out his spine and skull after killing him.

someone else commented that he did it so the Predator wouldn't draw his blood first

I always thought it was just a kind of warrior's challenge or spiritual thing- damaging the pelt could be a good reason, too. The first blood idea is very interesting, too. Maybe it's all that and more.

@@wunderbex8755 And possibly an element of "If the pain starts before the fight begins, I don't have to be afraid of pain."

Well its not that good but no shit soo...

@Stephen Indeed. I still hold the sequel in high regard. Everything that came after doesn't hold a candle to Predator 1&2.

@@Supeerbiaa predator 1 will always be better but 2 wasnt bad at all, still an enjoyable thriller.

Predators is also good

@@Supeerbiaa I still love the fact that if it werent for Predator 2(even though it wasnt that great of a movie), Bill Paxton can truly say that in the movies he has the honor and distinction of being killed by... A PREDATOR, A TERMINATOR, and An ALIEN RIP William Paxton (May 17, 1955 - February 25, 2017)

Had seen Predator when I was a child, can't remember what age, and was stoked to find out there was a sequel. Never came across it though, until one night I randomly flicked it on while channel hopping. Must have only been eleven or twelve at the time. Great film too I have to say.

Sequel wasnt that good to me, it lacked the thrill and unexpectation of the first one

I thought Danny Glover was miscast in the second movie. Good actor but didn't bring the correct gravitas to the film in my opinion.

@@fatalexception1269 I'd agree actually. However, with Glover as lead, the cheesy nostalgia is heightened for me, and I love it haha!

He wrote a lot of good movie scripts. Lethal Weapon (1987), Lethal Weapon 2 (1989),The Last Boy Scout (1991) The Long Kiss Goodnight (1996), Last Action Hero (1993) script.

@@MahlercougarYes, but he tore all his positive acchievements to shreds when he decided to direct the insult of a total catastrophy ;The Predator, a sequel to this movie. He should be ashamed of himself for fucking up this franchise.

He's in the film so he could be on set to do re-writes of the script.

@@morlvol He also ruined Iron Man, with the third film. I can't believe they gave us that, instead of another Favreau film.

McTiernan is great at reconstructing his movies on the fly. That's the mark of a true artist.

I agreed a Zillion %

LOL. "the Yautja" :D Do you really think she cares? 🤣

But what happened to the pod it (presumably) came down in from its spacecraft ?

NERD!

@@lewisner You don't see it in this movie, but there were other Yautja on the ship. They were watching this one to make sure he didn't cheat and would have destroyed or recovered his body if he had died before he could activate his self-destruct.

That's dope

Same thing happened to me with Nightmare on Elm Street especially the first movie. I still dream with Freddy from time to time. By the way, this movie is awesome!

This movie's story and the hints in it are pretty straight forward - but the creators opted to show images instead of using characters to talk the audience through. There are no secrets in this film - all is made clear by actions, acting, and scenery. Nobody needs to tell the viewer what's going on, as it is deliberately made evident. People nowadays expect a movie to hold hands by explaining every detail with exposition - but in this case, the filmmakers expected the viewer to pay attention. 'Show, don't tell' is a well-known rule in cinema - but it seems to be a lost art, and many people seem to have lost their ability to use common sense to figure stuff out...