"Prejudice always obscures the truth.." 12 Angry Men (1957) First Time Watching

"Prejudice always obscures the truth.." 12 Angry Men (1957) First Time Watching | REACTION & Review

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Drain that color from your screens and get ready to step back into yesteryear- I'm watching the BONAFIDE classic 12 Angry Men for the first time! Many of you recommended this movie and gave it high praise, so I was beyond excited to check it out. I hope you enjoy my reaction to this iconic drama as much as I enjoyed the film itself.
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SPOILERS FOR THE FILM IN THIS VIDEO
00:00 Intro
01:49 Reaction
23:53 Commentary & Final Thoughts
12 Angry Men (1957)
Henry Fonda
Lee J. Cobb
Martin Balsam
John Fiedler
E. G. Marshall
Jack Klugman
Jack Ward
Edward Binns
Joseph Sweeney
Ed Begley
George Voskovec
Robert Webber
Rudy Bond
Sidney Lumet (dir.)
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@EvelyntMild 5 ай бұрын

"For the same reason you're not. It's the way I was brought up." That line is so savage. He didn't just call the guy rude. He said 'Your parents failed'!

@ebashford5334 5 ай бұрын

If they're used properly the towel dispenser should be clean as there are 2 spools, the top one with the fresh clean material and another one below to take up the used dirty portion. When it gets to the end, it stops and a new one needs to be loaded. They had a bad reputation as people didn't know how they worked or they were neglected (you could not tug down on the towel and it was dirty) and thus actually unsanitary.

@zimnizzle 5 ай бұрын

I’m not sure why they got rid of them, actually. Seems like in a world of paper waste, we could use these again.

@ejtappan1802 5 ай бұрын

Thank you!! I always want to correct younger reactors who are like "ewww gross". You beat me to it.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Well you can count me in that group of ignorant people who didn't know how they worked! lol. By the time I came along, they were on their way out, and I only remember seeing a couple in questionable gas stations that did NOT look like they'd loaded anything new in a while ;) Thank you for the clarification though! It sounds like when facilitated properly, they were indeed very clean and environmentally friendly.

@jnagarya519 5 ай бұрын

The ones I knew had a handle on one side. Pulling that turned the roll.

@BloodylocksBathory 5 ай бұрын

They're still like that in some places. I saw one in Rome and was a bit icked out lol.

@Dej24601 5 ай бұрын

There were many people who immigrated from Puerto Rico to New York at that time and there was a lot of conflict (see “West Side Story.”) The movie never explicitly says what ethnic group the boy is, which helps keep the story timeless and applicable to prejudice towards any group, but it is likely that the boy is Puerto Rican.

@PillarOfWamuu 2 ай бұрын

Also there's a big knife and knife fighting culture from south America which leans into the discussions about the knife and the use of it.

@brandonflorida1092 5 ай бұрын

The actor who played the juror who was angry at his son was Lee J. Cobb. He did a lot of work on Broadway. In the movie "The Exorcist" he played the kindly police detective.

@djgrant8761 5 ай бұрын

Lee J. Cobb also starred in On the Waterfront (1954).

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

This SHOCKS ME about him being the detective in The Exorcist! Now that I know it, it's as clear as day, but I (clearly) did not recognize the nearly 20-year younger version of him! Thank you-

@johnnybmean74 5 ай бұрын

@@djgrant8761He was in On The Waterfront as a Supporting Actor. The movie Starred Marlon Brando.

@johnnybmean74 5 ай бұрын

If it were left up to you, nobody would be found guilty. Btw, your voice & mannerisms are quite effeminate at times.

@djgrant8761 5 ай бұрын

@@johnnybmean74 You are right Marlon Brando was the star actor in On the Waterfront. I wasn’t saying Lee J. Cobb was the leading actor I meant he was in the film.

@BoboftheOldeWays 5 ай бұрын

The part when all the jurors shun the racist guy is one of the most powerful moments in this film. Even the abusive father wasn’t having that crap. And considering when this movie was made - 1950s America - it’s even more impactful. It would have been calling out a lot of people in the audience.

@toodlescae 5 ай бұрын

Awesome classic. All of these men were stellar actors. Shows what you can do with just a good story, good dialogue, good actors and a good director without all of the special effects to rely on. Juror 2, the little meek guy, voiced Piglet. "Them" is a general reference to whoever someone might be prejudiced against. In that time period it could have been any of a number of ethnicities. The Women in 1939 also used color in one section. You're right about the cost being prohibitive being the reason it was used so seldom in the earlier years. Seven Brides For Seven Brothers is my all-time favorite musical.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Thank you as always for the great info!!! And I am glad to know that you are a fan of Seven Brides for Seven Brothers- I've been looking forward to that one for a while now :)

@toodlescae 5 ай бұрын

@@DavidvsFilm Howard Keel has a magnificent voice

@stevenwoodward5923 5 ай бұрын

My mom love that, mine favorite was "Show Boat"

@yepimheretoo2270 5 ай бұрын

Seven Brides for Seven Brothers- the barn raising scene is iconic

@toodlescae 5 ай бұрын

@@yepimheretoo2270 definitely...and the ax swinging scene.

@lyletuck 5 ай бұрын

The guy (John Fiedler) that sounded like Les Nesman was actually the voice of Piglet in the Winnie The Pooh shows from 1968 to 2005 (except for in "Welcome To Pooh Corner.")

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

This just blows my mind!! I'll never see him the same again lol. I'll only hear Piglet deciding the fate of an accused man.

@QuisletEsq 5 ай бұрын

John Fiedler also played a reoccurring role in the Bob Newhart Show.

@stevenwoodward5923 5 ай бұрын

He was on the original StarTrek "A Wolf in the Fold.

@marieclaudeb.2366 5 ай бұрын

This was a mandatory film in my first and only psychology class 🎉 the power of influence!

@adammakesstuffup 5 ай бұрын

High-school freshmen English, where I'm from. We read the stage play.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Yes! The power of influence is right!

@jimbearone 5 ай бұрын

To Kill A Mockingbird (1962) is also excellent. Casablanca (1942), The Bishop’s Wife (1947), The Ghost And Mrs. Muir (1947), Twelve O’Clock High (1949), The Picture Of Dorian Gray (1945), It’s A Wonderful Life (1946) the 1940’s is considered “The Golden Age” of Cinema because so many great films came out of this Era. Yes, Color (Technicolor / MetroColor and a handful of others) had been available since the 1930’s but were too complicated and expensive until the 1960’s when most studios were willing and able to film almost exclusively in color.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this info!! Especially the recommendations and the info about Technicolor. I read The Picture of Dorian Gray, but never saw the movie. The others I haven't seen either, but I'm familiar with most. I really do enjoy the classic films though, and lately I've also been more intrigued with the business and behind the scenes deals of that era in Hollywood.

@jimbearone 5 ай бұрын

@@DavidvsFilm You’re welcome. Filming in color required brighter, Hotter lighting and most makeup artists were not familiar with how to apply makeup for the best look. Also the film was much slower than B&W Film and limited Depth Of Field was necessary for the cameras and lenses available which was another problem. The slower film speed made action shots very difficult or impossible and pacing needed to be different to get good exposure since color film was much less forgiving.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

@@jimbearone Thank you!! This is a very detailed and informative answer. Greatly appreciated 🙂

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

@@jimbearone Thank you!! This is a very detailed and informative answer. Greatly appreciated 🙂

@scapevelocity 5 ай бұрын

The actor you misidentified as Garry Marshall was Ed Begley, father of Ed Begley, Jr., who was all over television for decades. And the baseball guy was Jack Warden, star of the series, Crazy Like a Fox as well as While You Were Sleeping. I got to see the stage version of 12 Angry Men in London. Hearing 12 British actors give their best 50s Bronx accents was entertaining, even if I knew they weren't American. In fact, as we left the theatre an American woman asked if any of the actors were American. I assured her that they weren't. (Brits often have trouble getting R sounds the way we say them.) A young Englishman turned around and said it was all their revenge for Dick Van Dyck. Guess they're still peeved about Mary Poppins!

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

The 2nd part of your comment had me laughing pretty good lol. I can't believe "Garry Marshall" is Ed Begley Jr.'s father!! I really don't see the resemblance in the Sr. vs. the Jr., but wow- small world. I don't remember seeing Ed Begley in anything else that I recall, but he (like all the others) did wonderfully.

@inaz1963 3 ай бұрын

Crazy Like a Fox was one of my favorites! I thought I was the only one who remembered it.

@user-yu9uw8wo9o 5 ай бұрын

'Casablanca' is another vintage classic

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Ohhh yes! I've only seen the plane scene (so, probably ruined then lol), but I'm still up for it! lol

@BeeWhistler 4 ай бұрын

@@DavidvsFilmWe all have. I finally saw the full thing just a couple of years ago. Trust me, it’s so good that it doesn’t matter that you know the ending.

@notjustforhackers4252 5 ай бұрын

Not only do the shots get tighter and tighter as the film goes on but the room, the set, actually gets smaller and smaller too. An engrossing, thrilling classic. If you're looking for another film that covers similar subjects take a look at Akiria Kurosawa's Rashomon (1950).

@fday1964 5 ай бұрын

...glad you pointed that out.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Ahhhh yes!!! Thank you so much

@reservoirdude92 5 ай бұрын

The cinematography and shot composition in this is God tier.

@jeffmartin1026 5 ай бұрын

This is the film adaptation of the stage play, based on the 1954 teleplay by Reginald Rose, first staged in 1955. So yes, it felt like a stage play. I am so glad that you now have this film in your life. An absolute classic to be sure. A few others I will throw into the hat: To Kill A Mockingbird (courtroom/drama), Gaslight (psychological thriller), Top Hat (musical comedy), The Thin Man (mystery/comedy), The Fly (horror with Vincent Price) and again The Haunting (1963 psychological horror).

@TheMrsmartass13 5 ай бұрын

A cool thing to was there were two version of the play going, one with an all Male cast and one with an all Female cast, it was an interesting showcase of how all these parts could be done differently and still hold really well

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Awww I remember you suggesting The Haunting! That's right :) I have heard of all these except Top Hat- not familiar with that one. I've also heard how great Gaslight is specifically, but you never know if someone is just trying to convince you it is, given the title......... 😁

@jeffmartin1026 5 ай бұрын

@@DavidvsFilm Top Hat is from 1935 with Fred Astair and Ginger Rodgers, absolutely beautiful dance sequences. Gaslight is where we get that term from, the ending is incredibly powerful. Both are worth a view/review. Along with The Haunting (lol).

@JeffKelly03 5 ай бұрын

This is such an incredible film. I'd love to see the stage version at some point. The cast is absolutely stacked with classic character actors, too, and I'm not sure Lee J. Cobb has ever been better, in particular.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree! Someone mentioned in the comments that he was the detective in The Exorcist, and I was shocked! I didn't even recognize him. He did a great job.

@geraldmcboingboing7401 5 ай бұрын

@@DavidvsFilm Lee J. Cobb was in "Call Northside 777" with Jimmy Stewart. He was also in Exodus (1960) with Paul Newman and in Golden Boy (1939) with William Holden and in Luck of the Irish (1948) with Tyrone Power and in Best Picture Academy Award winner, On the Waterfront (1954), with Marlon Brando, which is a film that will definitely knock your socks off. He was a fantastic actor!!!!

@shellihouge938 5 ай бұрын

The Philadelphia Story is a great movie with several big names. Katherine Hepburn, James Stewart and Cary Grant to name a few. I think you would really enjoy the film.

@dionysiacosmos 5 ай бұрын

Yes! Howard Hughes was so impressed by Hepburn's performance in the stage play he bought the rights and gave them to her. Hollywood lore says the actors were so professional that there's almost no reshoots. They got it right the first time. The closest thing to a blown tale was the hiccup. If you know, you know!!⭐🌟🎭📽️💋

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

I know it by name, and I also knew she was in it, but I wasn't aware that James Stewart and Cary Grant are also! That cast alone sounds like a winner! Thank you

@derekhiemforth 5 ай бұрын

In my view, this is one of the 5 or 6 best movies ever made. Pretty much flawless. When Juror #10 keeps talking about "them," we're not supposed to know who "they" are. It doesn't matter. By not specifying, it leaves it open for the viewer to imagine it's whatever group they see prejudice against.

@paulockenden4278 5 ай бұрын

The towel dispenser always dumbfounds the younger generations 😂

@davidely7032 5 ай бұрын

Joseph Sweeney was born in 1884. His father grew up during the US Civil War. Our parents (or grandparents) grew up during the final,years of Sweeney. So we are just 2 or 3 generations away from the Civil War. Juror #2 (Les) was the voice of Piglet. Ed Begley Jr's father was the bigot. Klugman was the slob in the movie, the Odd Couple, and Quincy, M.E.

@vincentsaia6545 5 ай бұрын

Martin Balsam (Foreman), Henry Fonda (#8), and Ed Begley (#10) all won Academy Awards

@donferoce5652 5 ай бұрын

The one sour note in this for me is that the polite character with the mustache who says "I don't have to defend my decision to you" at 13:58 is the same one who demands that the juror who would rather be at the baseball game defend his decision at 19:57. The Miranda decision came in 1966. Beginning in 1967, the "Dragnet" TV series was the first to regularly feature the police reading suspects their rights. In 1969 we first grade boys took pride in being able to recite the Miranda warning when playing Cops & Robbers! Being an alternate juror is frustrating, when it's time for deliberation you get sent home. You'll have to search court records on your own for the verdict.

@sawanna508 4 ай бұрын

The difference is though in his case when he starts talking whe can clearly hear where his doubts come from, while the one with the baseball tickets looks at his watch once again before voting not guilty and before he says not guitly he says something impatiantly. When he is asked why he votes guilty he starts mumbling and can't name an exact reason.

@garri5108 5 ай бұрын

Camera work is crazy in this film, Kaufman used different lenses throughout the film and the longer you watch the film, the closer the plans become, in some frames you can’t see the room at all, the whole frame is filled with people, this creates a tense atmosphere and at the end of the film when the last juror could not admit that he was to blame for damily conflict, and not his son, he got up from the table, and his entire torso in the frame is smaller in size than the faces of each of the jurors, when the camera switches to them and at the moment when he breaks down and admits that he was wrong, as well as he was wrong in this case, he sits down and camera again takes a close-up of him on the entire frame, so it seems that he became a man again when he admitted it and became equal to everyone else. Brilliant camera work, just magnificient

@maddwitch 5 ай бұрын

I first saw this movie when I was 8 and it's been one of my favorite movies ever since. The "them" was not directly addressed, probably because there's always a "them" and who the "them" is, is relative to time, place, and person and it helps keep the point relevant as time goes on, but the boy in the case was Puerto Rican and there was tension at the time this movie was made, due to a large wave of immigration from the island. There's actually a very good Russian adaptation, titled 12, where the "them" are represented by a Chechen boy, though in that adaptation, him being Chechen is directly addressed and plays a bigger role in the deliberation. 34:29 My grandfather never wore anything but slacks and button ups, no matter the weather. In the heat of summer, he wore guyaberas out for casual events, and at home, with just family, you might see him in an undershirt, but you would never catch him in shorts, jeans, or t-shirts. It always looked really uncomfortable to me.

@mariacavanaugh1010 5 ай бұрын

I suggest you add "Inherit the Wind" to your list. 🤓It's another great court-room story based on the Scopes trial about the theory of evolution. 12 Angry Men is such a great film - as you noted, the setting, acting, the closeups, all of it!

@Kunsoo1024 5 ай бұрын

Another MGM classic.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Thank you!! I know that one by name, but I don't know anything else about it. Appreciate the heads-up!

@Kunsoo1024 5 ай бұрын

@@DavidvsFilm If you do Inherit the Wind, make certain you start with the 1960 version. You might be the first to react to it on youtube.

@ejtappan1802 5 ай бұрын

The director of this film, Sydney Lumet, wrote a book about making films and he goes into a lot of detail about his rehearsal process, lighting, camera angles, etc that he cose for this film. Really worth the read!

@leogothisoscar271 5 ай бұрын

There are definitely familiar faces in this from other huge movies. The angriest of men was the detective in The Exorcist and the foreman was the investigator in Psycho.

@shwicaz 5 ай бұрын

Please add "All About Eve" to your classic film viewing (if you haven't seen it yet). Stellar. I will give nothing away, but boy is is a hum-dinger! Loved your reaction (as always, you are fun and insightful) How ADORABLE was Martin Balsam w/ the tie on his polo shirt?? Also when you said "Olan Mills" I almost choked on my beverage. 🤣 Enjoy the day, David!

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Ok now hold on to your hat- I HAVE seen All About Eve, actually! Though honestly I should rewatch it because it was years ago and I only remember it vaguely. Plus, I mean come on, it's one of those movies that's always a solid YES, right?? I thought Balsam's whole demeanor, appearance, performance was great!

@calme-dx2dp 5 ай бұрын

I know of a trial that happened exactly like that. I won't elaborate on it here. But, when the case went to the jury the first vote was 11:1 guilty. One juror talked them all out of their guilty verdict. When they returned, it was a unanimous decision--not guilty. Years later I happened to communicate with one of the jurors. I did not know this person, and they did not know me. It was my name that caught the attention of this juror. That is how I know they had an 11:1 guilty verdict on the first vote. This juror was highly upset. After their decision they found out how wrong they were. This person they set free was totally guilty. The juror wanted to apologize to the victim for their mistake.

@fday1964 5 ай бұрын

Old classic films....there are so many. You can categorize by actor, actress, studio, director and most importantly, by decade. Henry Fonda for example, has a ton of films to explore.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Thank you!! Did he do Grapes of Wrath also? I know On Golden Pond for sure, but I was thinking he was also in GoW. Never saw it, but I remember it was a favorite of my grandfather's.

@fday1964 5 ай бұрын

@@DavidvsFilm .. GoW was one he was in.

@galandirofrivendell4740 5 ай бұрын

This story originally aired as a live TV drama, and Henry Fonda wanted to do a motion picture version -- and succeeded. There is also a stage version of this story and I was fortunate to play Juror 11 (the foreigner) in my hometown. Enjoyed your reaction to this classic drama and I hope to hear more classic reactions from you in the future.

@kirkdarling4120 5 ай бұрын

Both the original live TV drama and the 1990s remake are available on KZfaq.

@Dej24601 5 ай бұрын

The actor you called Marshall is Ed Begley, father to actor Ed Begley, Jr.

@rickardroach9075 5 ай бұрын

14:46 The stage play is even more impressive with just the one set (e.g. no bathroom) and only one “camera angle” (i.e. the audience).

@merchillio 5 ай бұрын

It’s a classic that I only discovered recently. One of the rare “legal movies” that happens entirely after the trial. Usually we see the lawyers presenting their cases and then we jump after the deliberation. It has been adapted into a stage play (with the title changing depending on the composition of the cast).

@geraldmcboingboing7401 5 ай бұрын

That was a great and insightful reaction to one of my favorite films!! I can’t count the number of reactions to this film that I’ve watched, but this was the first time that I’ve laughed out loud. Your reaction to Henry Fonda wiping his face on the towel was priceless. If you haven’t seen The Caine Mutiny (1954), it’s a fantastic film with one of the cast members here in a very important role. Call Northside 777 (1948) and The Ox-Box Incident (1943) are two other great films about characters in sort-of similar situations.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Hello my friend!! Thank you so so much. I haven't seen the films you listed, but I did read the Ox-Bow Incident in school and LOVED it.

@BDogg2023 5 ай бұрын

The KZfaq channel, Legal Eagles, hosted by a lawyer, has said My Cousin Vinny is one of the most accurate portrays of a courtroom in movies.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Haha I believe it! Like that time I heard a politician say that DC was a lot more like Veep than House of Cards lol.

@sprayarm 5 ай бұрын

The jury foreman (Martin Balsam) played the private detective Arbogast in Psycho!

@Kunsoo1024 5 ай бұрын

Also did a great job as "Mr. Grey" in the Taking of Pelham 123.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what I know him from though.. I haven't seen the original Psycho, so I know it's not that. Probably just tv appearances over the years when I was younger or something. I know I know him though- I just need to iMDb him and see.

@DonnaCPunk 5 ай бұрын

⁠that's a great movie too. I actually really liked the remake with John Travolta and Denzel Washington. It told the same story and updated it for the times. There's a TV version with Vincent D'Onofrio and Donnie Whalburg that's atrocious. It's not the actors, they had a stacked cast, the filmmaking was terrible and the director must've been intimidated by the actors. It's like he didn't try to direct at all. Almost as tho he turned on the camera and said, "Uh, go...,I guess."

@PrinceofArfon 5 ай бұрын

I love how many reactors, especially younger ones, are discovering this film. One of the best ever, but on paper it’s the opposite of entertainment. Yet I can’t take my eyes off of it.

@belvagurr403 12 күн бұрын

The little guy in glasses and squeaky voice is John Fiedler, the voice of piglet.

@pscar1 5 ай бұрын

So glad to see you react to this! It's such a great film. Edit: I would also recommend The Thin Man movies. If you don't watch them all, at least the first 2. The first was done in 1934 and the second in 1936. Really fun mystery flicks 😊

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Thank you!! I recognize the title of course, but I didn't realize these were mystery films. Love that!

@user-yu9uw8wo9o 5 ай бұрын

If you're interested in old sci-fi movies, may I suggest you watch 'The Day The Earth Stood Still'. It's black and white and not your typical 'monster/alien' movie

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Ahh thank you!! I know it by name, but not familiar with the details. Thanks for the suggestion!

@2tone753 5 ай бұрын

An outstanding film that, as a now retired police officer from Berlin-Germany, always reminded me not to make a decision too quickly about someone or an issue. Very often it happened in the course of the investigation, that after evaluating the information and evidence collected, a completely different impression emerged. I saw the film about 70 times and it wasn't a waste of time. I myself am an opponent of the use of juries. If you want, you can see the reason in the film. Aggressive and dominant jurors push aside the opinions and impressions of others. One juror, knowing he was a murder trial juror at the time, had bought tickets to a baseball game and loudly announced that he would like the meeting to be over quickly. A juror is a racist and announces that "Them" are all "born liars." One of them is actually carrying out a lawsuit against his son and would have the accused "jump over the sword" on behalf of him. Without No. 8 and No. 9 as support, the defendant would have gone to death row. No thanks, I think the principle of professional judges that we apply is clearly better and fairer.

@charleskimball7058 5 ай бұрын

What will prevent a professional judge from acting on his own prejudice? The jury system, while imperfect, is better than a judge who can convict a defendant he simply doesn’t like.

@2tone753 5 ай бұрын

@@charleskimball7058 In Germany there is not just one judge in such a trial, but also additional judges. There is not just one absolute judge.

@jamesdrynan 5 ай бұрын

A cinematic masterpiece! I've watched it over fifty times. There are so many little details! Edward Binns, juror # 6, is very solicitous towards the old man. He gets his chair, defends him, wants to hear his opinions. After Cobb, juror # 3, insults juror # 12, Webber, his facial expression first looks sheepish, then his jaw moves showing sublimated anger. Wow! I could go on and on...

@mitchellhp 5 ай бұрын

I had jury duty a couple weeks ago & kept flashing back to this movie in my mind. So I had a laugh when I saw this in my feed. Very impactful movie. I watched it for a class in high school & still think back to it. You may be interested in “Runaway Jury” with John Cusack & Rachel Weiss.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Haha hey, I’m glad it’s timely! Hope you weren’t sidelined with jury duty for too long. I mistakenly read the second part of your comment as Runaway Bride. I was eager to see how you connected those dots lol. Then I realized… ;)

@LuisM1416 5 ай бұрын

I remember doing this play in our High School back in the day. Such a amazing story. I love Martin Balsam as Juror 1 since Psycho and Breakfast At Tiffany's.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

You did the play as you were in it? Which character if so? I know that I know Martin Balsam from something, but I can't remember what. I haven't seen either Psycho or Tiffany's, so I know it's not those. He was really great as the foreman though!

@LuisM1416 5 ай бұрын

I was Juror 9. Not a big part. More background character. It was fun to do. I also was one of the dead man from Our Town.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

@@LuisM1416 Um excuse me- in a play where the verdict must be unanimous, there are NO background characters ;)

@LuisM1416 5 ай бұрын

I know. I just only join the play because of my crush back them. But being in the cast was fun.

@laurenherda2415 5 ай бұрын

Such a phenomenal movie! Some classic films I highly recommend is Casablanca hands down! Whatever Happened To Baby Jane Some Like It Hot Vertigo The Bad Seed

@kirkdarling4120 5 ай бұрын

I'd strongly recommend To Kill A Mockingbird, which most people think is a courtroom drama, but it's really a "tale of manners"...it's a story about the mores of 1930s Southern society, fictional but full of truth. And I'd recommend Casablanca, which has awesome cinematography, sparkling, clever, and humorous dialog, and a twisty plot. Fun fact: They were still writing the script even as they were filming; the actors themselves didn't know how the story would turn out until the last day of filming. And yet, Casablanca is the most frequently quoted movie of all time.

@bobschenkel7921 5 ай бұрын

Juror #3 was played by Lee J. Cobb (On The Waterfront), the man with the cold was played by Ed Begley, Sr. (Hang 'Em High), the father of Ed Begley, Jr. natch, and Henry Fonda (Once Upon A Time In The West, The Ox Bow Incident). All the actors were amazing in this film, which I think should be shown to every jury in a capital murder case. Those movie I listed ARE recommendations BTW, all excellent, all worth your time. Thanks David, a great reaction.

@WanderingRoe 5 ай бұрын

This was a huge treat to see, it’s one of my favorites! 😄 Thank you for reacting to this!

@ryanbryce2752 5 ай бұрын

I have seen this performed as a play a couple of times, once in Londons West End with Tom Conti in the Henry Fonda role and Robert Vaughn as the old man. It was brilliant.

@lowlybird9128 5 ай бұрын

Juror #2, who you said sounds like Les Nessman from WKRP, is the voice of Piglet from Winnie the Pooh. 😊

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Holy crap! Ok now I'll never be able to watch this movie again without thinking Piglet is weighing the fate of someone's life lol. Seriously though- that's really cool, thank you!!

@GrumpyOldGuyPlaysGames 5 ай бұрын

Something a lot of people miss the first time tyhey watch it is, during the discussions just before he switched his vote, Mr. Baseball Fan is carefully listening to what is being said -- he didn't say a word of protesy when they figured out it took close to 41 seconds for the old man to get to his door, he's paying attention when the stockbroker reveals how its hard to remember details, and he's concentrating on what is being said about using the knife underhanded -- so when he changes his vote its not quite as arbitrary as the movie presents it.

@stevenwoodward5923 5 ай бұрын

You could be right and I missed it. To me he didn't protest because he didn't care just wanted out, and couldn't give a complete answer as why.

@sawanna508 4 ай бұрын

Actually just before he switches his vote he looks at his watch again and he sounds impatiant.

@the_nikster1 5 ай бұрын

I love this movie so much! I'll never forget seeing it for the first time in high school and being absolutely mesmerized. I'm fortunate enough to have an aunt who used to share her love of black and white films with me at a young age so I've grown up with an appreciation for them. some suggestions for you: It Happened One Night (1934), Whatever Happened to Baby Jane (1962), and The Miracle Worker (1962). thanks for the reaction! 😊

@zombiejlt1 5 ай бұрын

This is one of th best films ever made. As someone who was once a court employee I enjoy watching courtroom/drama films and like to test for accuracy. I too have been called for jury duty but never served so films and shows that feture jury discussion I find entertaining. The cast, dialogue, and camerawork are phenomenal. I love how tension and emmotions run high and how everyone came in with their own agenda only to be challenged and their minds reset after just bringing attention to the facts. Lots of well-respected talent in this film, it comes highly recommended from me for anyone looking for a good drama overall. Its been parodied in tv shows like THE FLINSTONES and THE SIMPSONS which is my favorite parody, a true classic. Highly recommend ALL THE PRESIDENTS MEN as a similar themed film. TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD, MY COUSIN VINNY, A FEW GOOD MEN, all great court films.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Hey my friend!! Haha, well I mean honestly though, can The Simpsons be anything other than awesome?? :) All the President's Men is a favorite of mine (I love politically historical films and docs) as well as of course My Cousin Vinny; I remember really liking A Few Good Men- though I really need to watch it again- and haven't seen the movie adaptation of Mockingbird, but the book is at the top of my list of all-time bests!

@jameswaddell3348 5 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed the HONESTY of this 1957 Classic. I would have loved to be back in the day, when people/races stayed in there own lane! We black folks are more prejudice than all other races! Believe me i have seen how we act, and treat others!

@mildredpierce4506 5 ай бұрын

The actor you thought was from WKRP in Cincinnati is actually the voice of piglet from Winnie the Pooh.

@stevesheroan4131 5 ай бұрын

27:10 “It’s about reasonable doubt” (para). This is the entire foundation upon which our justice system is built in regard to murder, and it’s the part many don’t understand. As David stated, a vote of “not guilty” is NOT the same as saying you believe the accused is innocent. “Guilty” is supposed to mean that someone is 100% certain that the accused committed the crime in the manner that they are being charged for it. 99% certainty and below should result in “not guilty”. Personally, I would much rather send a guilty person back into the streets than send an innocent person to death. I believe there’s a chance that Davis (Fonda) could still 99% believe that the kid did it, but he truly understood his responsibility and couldn’t vote “guilty” in spite of being 99% certain. That’s true courage on display.

@theeLonelyRedPanda 5 ай бұрын

Also one element the jurors talked about was the accused talked to his friends before he went to the movies, and it's quite possible one of them did it for their friend. Friends chit chat and share everything they'd know about his knife, they'd know about his situation no? But we'll never know.

@calme-dx2dp 5 ай бұрын

Saw this for the first time in the 70s. Been a fan every since.

@billverno6170 5 ай бұрын

This was originally a television production. They then made the film. It was adapted from there into a stage play. The stage play is effective from a dramatic standpoint but it has problems because a jury is twelve people sitting around a table. If you stage it like that there are people with their backs to the audience and other actors being blocked from sight. There are lots of different ways to stage this. However, twelve people seated around a table is a setup that is made for film and television.

@jamesodonnell3636 5 ай бұрын

I love this film, and your reaction to it is brilliant and insightful.

@SoaringTrumpet 3 ай бұрын

Great reaction! I really appreciate you taking the time for a long discussion afterwards as well.

@DavidvsFilm 3 ай бұрын

Thank you!! I love talking about movies, especially great ones like this. Also why I really appreciate you leaving comments :)

@SolarTiger 5 ай бұрын

everytime I watch a reaction to this film, the actor Lee J. Cobb stands out for me...he's great (he is also the detective in "The Exorcist")

@marleybob3157 5 ай бұрын

Kudos on catching the wrong time on Lee J. Cobb's watch near the end. It should have been between 6:30 and 7:00. I thought I was the only one to catch that! Well done David.

@Rocco1332 5 ай бұрын

Such a great job keeping the attention with a room and 12 men. Nearly a lost art. So many movies/shows don't know how to make it interesting anymore.

@librarianists 5 ай бұрын

I once heard a great radio dramatization of 12 Angry Men. You'd think it'd be hard to keep track of everyone, especially since they're identified by juror number. But the characters are so well drawn, and the performances so uniformly top-notch, that it was just as riveting! (Granted, it helped that several Star Trek actors, whose voices I know very well, were in the cast). I could recommend so many classic films, but I'll stick to one: "The Lady Eve", a 1941 romantic comedy starring Henry Fonda and Barbara Stanwyck. They meet cute but there's a misunderstanding, after which she vows revenge... sort of. Thanks for reacting to one of my favorite movies!

@migmit Ай бұрын

“Gon With the Wind” was originally black and white, if I'm not mistaken. It was colored by hand later.

@DelGuy03 5 ай бұрын

On the question of color: I was around and going to movies then, and I can tell you that up through the 1960s it was just expected that some movies would be made in color, others in black-and-white. Usually color was reserved for "big" productions: musicals, spectacles, Westerns, etc. (though there could be exceptions in all those categories), while a small-scale story (comedy or drama) about ordinary people would likely be in black and white. But a bigger percentage of movies were getting made in color each year, and eventually B&W as a regular option stopped (I've heard it said that In Cold Blood (1967) was the last movie made in B&W as a matter of routine). After that, an occasional director would ask for a particular movie to be in B&W for artistic reasons, and that's still the case, rare as the phenomenon has become.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Thank you so so much for this information!! Definitely helps me understand the evolution of the standards in this aspect. Not sure what your interests are when it comes to movies/tv, but you mentioned In Cold Blood, and I'm wondering if you have any interest in the upcoming FX series "Feud: Capote vs. the Swans" about the fallout of the author and his friends/muses?

@DelGuy03 5 ай бұрын

@@DavidvsFilm In fact I've started watching that "Feud" series (though my mention of In Cold Blood was just a matter of historical record; I haven't read that much of Capote's writing). I remember reading about some of the goings-on at the time, with his book manuscript being years overdue, and all the "in" rich ladies he hung out with turning on him. I'm enjoying it, at least after the first episode. On the other end of the "all movies will now be in color" phenomenon at the end of the 1960s, you might enjoy a look at the 1971 movie that decided to buck the norm and be released in black and white: The Last Picture Show. I think it's a terrific movie about growing up in a certain time & place (a small Texas town in the 1950s), and it started several acting careers.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

@@DelGuy03 thank you! Great recommendation with Picture Show, btw. Never saw it, but somewhat familiar. Wasn’t that Cybill Shepherd’s first (or one of her first) movies?

@DelGuy03 5 ай бұрын

@@DavidvsFilm It was in fact her very first movie; she was 20. Although it wasn't their first, it gave a real boost to the careers of Ellen Burstyn and young Jeff Bridges too.

@t.j._fury 5 ай бұрын

Really tight writing, great acting, and direction. Also, it is a great lesson in not judging a book by its cover or taking things at face value. What more can you want? On another note, I'm so glad I've never had to make that kind of decision. ❤❤❤🎉🎉

@dionysiacosmos 5 ай бұрын

A really good Henry Fonda vehicle is 1941s The Male Animal. It's a comedy drama where he plays a creative writing professor at a small college. The drama part is so familiar for modern viewers, it's jaw-droping. The comedy is great too, so overall it's a very good watch.

@jgrey8959 5 ай бұрын

He is calm and collected. But there are 12 angry men. Fonda's character is the angriest man in the room: angry about injustice, prejudice, and the arrogance of easy judgement. He is more purposeful and effective with his anger, but it motivates him all the same.

@DelGuy03 5 ай бұрын

I just discovered this myself, and it might interest you too: you mentioned that the defendant's lawyer was a public defender, and that's certainly how we'd understand it now. But until the 1960s (spurred by some supreme court decisions), the public defender's office didn't exist; a "court-appointed lawyer" would have been a lawyer in regular practice, assigned to this particular case. Being in such a position might make it all the more possible that a less-than-idealistic lawyer might just go through the motions in court.

@Kunsoo1024 5 ай бұрын

Some states had PD offices with mandatory representation, and New York (where this was filmed) was one of them.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Interesting!!! I did NOT know that. Definitely makes sense though, thank you :)

@migmit Ай бұрын

12:22 What makes this moment especially great is that the guy who corrects the grammar is likely a recent immigrant. It's not spelled out, but he is the only one excited about being on the jury, and he gushes about the great jury system, suggesting he is from a country that doesn't have it.

@waldorfstatler3129 5 ай бұрын

There are so many classics for younger people to discover. Check out Inherit The Wind, The Sweet Smell of Success, Whatever Happened To Baby Jane, Guess Who's Coming To Dinner, Touch of Evil, Picnic, Rear Window, Imitation of Life, The Bad and The Beautiful, The Best Years of Our Lives, Bad Day At Black Rock and many more.

@vincentsaia6545 5 ай бұрын

Recommendations: SEVEN DAYS IN MAY, THE VERDICT, WITNESS

@rbrainsop1 5 ай бұрын

I have seen this amazing movie so many times, and I was obsessed with While You Were Sleeping for a while in the 90's, and I never once put it together that Juror #7 was the same actor who played Saul! But then you said it, and then I heard him speak again and immediately recognized the voice. I honestly don't know if I would have ever noticed, but now I can't not hear it!

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Saul!!! Yes that was his character’s name, thank you! Crazy huh?

@holydiver73 5 ай бұрын

This is an example of perfect film making and Has been a favourite of mine for years. However, it is also the perfect example of GASLIGHTING ever put to film. 😂😂😂

@rittherugger160 5 ай бұрын

One thing that you don't really notice is that one of the walls (exit door wall) was moveable so the room could be made smaller to visually increase the closeness of shots.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Thank you! I love details like that.

@TheCkent100 5 ай бұрын

An excellent reaction. As to your question about jury deliberations going from 11 to 1 and flipping by the end, we would never know. Jury deliberations are secret, so unless a jury member decides to come forward and talk about the deliberations, no other record is kept except for the final result. I have been on two juries, once as an alternate and once as the foreman. As an alternate, I was kept out of the deliberations, and didn't know what was said, what arguments were made in the jury room, etc. It was really frustrating not knowing about the discussions, since I had to sit through the entire trial and the deliberations (outside the jury room) and not know anything. As the foreman, I tried to maintain a calm jury room. I asked the other jurors, when it seemed natural to take another vote, if they thought we should continue discussing or if they wanted another vote. The discussions never got really heated, but there were disagreements. There were several charges that we had to decide. This was an armed robbery case. On a couple of the charges, the accused was acquitted. On others, we found him guilty. The penalty phase was done at a later date, and the jury was not a part of it, so to this day, I still don't know what the sentence was.

@melodiek5282 5 ай бұрын

I have always loved the movie “Mister Roberts”. It stars Henry Fonda, James Cagney, William Powell, and Jack Lemon. It’s set on a Navy supply ship in the South Pacific in WW2. I’ve never seen anyone react to it.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Someone else mentioned that one too the other day. A lot of movies I’ve heard of, even if I haven’t seen them, but that’s a new one to me. Thank you!

@mckeldin1961 5 ай бұрын

I loved your reaction! This is one of my favorite movies, and I'm always browsing KZfaq looking for content related to it. Yours is definitely one of the best I've seen! You have such a great KZfaq personality (and your husband too), I'd love it if you started reacting to more classic movies. A couple of recommendations The Ox-Bow Incident (1942 ... with Henry Fonda), On the Waterfront (1954, also starring Lee J. Cobb -- "Juror #3"), Rear Window (1954, dir. by Alfred Hitchcock), Dog Day Afternoon (1976, dir. by Sidney Lumet... same director as 12 Angry Men).

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!! I think I saw you over on Patreon today also (thank you for that as well!!), and one thing I've been wanting to do for a while now are live watch alongs for patrons via Discord. That's how I first came across the suggestion of Seven Brides for Seven Brothers from my friend Logan, and I think a lot of these classic films would be great to watch together :)

@tommosley2844 5 ай бұрын

Yes you can call for a vote if you are a jurt member. All members are equal. Also, it's legal for jurors to examine and handle evidence while deliberating if the prosecution and the defense both agree.

@stevenwoodward5923 5 ай бұрын

Aren't they sequestered during deliberation and not aloud to leave and buy a knife.

@tommosley2844 5 ай бұрын

@@stevenwoodward5923 These days they are, I don't know if that was true during the 1950s. Not as much media attention back in the day.

@tommosley2844 5 ай бұрын

@@stevenwoodward5923 Television was just becoming popular in the 50s. There were only 3 stations back then and the News was limited to 6pm and 11pm. Unlike today with 24/7 news and KZfaq.

@browniewin4121 5 ай бұрын

This has a great script, great filming, and a stellar cast. To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) is a must see classic. A good movie about guilt or innocence is Anatomy of a Murder (1959).

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Hey friend! You are right about that. :) Thank you!

@williamjamesayers7719 5 ай бұрын

One of my 10 all time favorite films. Very good choice.

@migmit Ай бұрын

The film is absolutely great. It's also a great example of what the jury shouldn't do. A lot of what they did (although not everything) was grounds for a mistrial.

@TangentOmega 5 ай бұрын

The towels could only go around once. They were replaced and laundered at least once a week. I think they're more environmentally friendly than paper towels.

@reneerocha1796 3 ай бұрын

A timeless classic. I love this movie!! 😊

@gregorywilson1960 5 ай бұрын

This is new York city. The kid is Puerto Rican. In the 1950s black people were moving out of Harlem (a slum) and a lot of Puerto Ricans moved in. That's the (Them) they are talking about. It's great to see younger people watching classic movies. And asking questions about the earlier time period. Keep it up! New subscriber.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!! I appreciate it. As the conversations in the movie went on, I gathered that they were probably in NY after all, but glad to know for sure. As to which they/them group, I knew better than to start guessing. lol.

@theduckthief 5 ай бұрын

I'm so glad you enjoyed the film! The director specifically slowly lowered the camera to the level of the characters over the course of the film which serves to heighten the tension, creating a sense of claustrophobia.

@Lepidopray 5 ай бұрын

Great film on all levels. I understand they had 2 weeks of rehearsal with the full cast. When I hear actors on talk shows, they often complain of the lack of rehearsal time, but here it plays dividends.

@patriciagerresheim2500 5 ай бұрын

Jack Klugman: Quincy, ME; The Odd Couple, an early regular on The Match Game, among others John Fiedler: Star Trek (the episode 'Wolf in the Fold'); the voice of Piglet in Disney's 'Winnie the Pooh' Martin Balsam: Signor Bianchi in 'Murder on the Orient Express' (1974) (You should watch this one, if you haven't already) Lee J. Cobb: Death of a Salesman (one of the most depressing plays I've ever read, but so well-written) Henry Fonda considered this one of his three favorite films he'd done, along with 'The Grapes of Wrath' and 'The Ox-Bow Incident'. I'd like to see your take on 'Stairway to Heaven' (British title: A Matter of Life and Death) from 1946. It stars David Niven and Kim Hunter. I also suggest 'An Inspector Calls' (1954) starring Alistair Sim. If you want to watch more Hitchcock, there's 'Rear Window' and 'The Trouble with Harry' which is Hitch's only comedy.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!! Especially for reminding me that Martin Balsam was in Murder on the Orient Express! That may be what I'm recalling him from. And Jack Klugman on The Odd Couple, that's right! Funny thing about David Niven, btw- all I know him from is the infamous streaking episode while he was onstage at The Oscars, and his perfect quip.

@patriciagerresheim2500 5 ай бұрын

@@DavidvsFilm David Niven was in so many wonderful films, such as The Bishop's Wife and the original Pink Panther

@HenryCabotHenhouse3 5 ай бұрын

If you want more Henry Fonda, I would suggest Mr. Roberts.

@dionysiacosmos 5 ай бұрын

The only problem that would have caused a mistrial is that second knife. A jury member can't introduce new evidence. However, even though he dislikes talking about his neighborhood and upbringing, Juror#5, Jack Klugman, could be asked questions about switchblade knives in general and the uniqueness of the murder weapons design. Otherwise, there's no problem legally with the movie. This is the commentary of a trial attorney, so no argument from me.

@richellewatts1562 5 ай бұрын

This is the movie that I could watch every day for the rest of my life! And even though I'm not much of a fan of remakes, the one they did of this movie is actually pretty good! Your comments during this reaction....not the Olan Mills!!! LMAO I just love watching you! Thank you and much love 💜💜💜💜 P.S. I would recommend Frost/Nixon as a movie I think you would enjoy. Frank Langella plays Nixon and it's actually based on a play that he was in for years. Hope you enjoy it even if you don't do a reaction (please please) 💜

@tommosley2844 5 ай бұрын

This was originally a play before it was made into a movie. When they refer to them they're referring to Hispanic. They didn't directly indicate this when they made the movie.

@dannygjk Ай бұрын

Dude the cloth in those towel machines was way longer than what you could see and it didn't keep rotating around over and over. It kept feeding fresh clean towel until it came to the end then it was opened the used roll was removed and a clean one put in.

@zenomorph8806 5 ай бұрын

I could never be on that type of case. It’s not in my blood to determine someone’s life or death. No way. What a great movie. It was first a stage play, but it translates into a movie so greatly. There are a couple of versions but nothing tops the original.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

I know right?? How would you get out of it? I don't know if you ever watched 30 Rock, but there was an episode where a character from Chicago who's currently living in New York City is trying to get out of jury duty, so she dresses like Princess Leia. This always worked back home, so when they put her on the jury anyway and she asks why, they tell her "Honey this ain't Chicago. This is New York. Look at these people." lol

@markhamstra1083 5 ай бұрын

@@DavidvsFilmWhether you think you can return a guilty verdict will likely be asked in some form in a written jury questionnaire from the judge. If you get past that step, then the prosecutor is almost certainly going to ask this question, especially if they have reason to suspect your difficulty based on your questionnaire answers. If either or both of the judge and prosecutor truly believe that you cannot vote to convict in a capital case, then you’re going to be dismissed from jury service. This is certainly how it worked when I served jury duty on a murder trial in California a little over a year ago.

@katrinacash6393 5 ай бұрын

Another great movie starring E. G. Marshall, Clint Eastwood, Gene Hackman, Laura Linney, Scott Glenn and other is "Absolute Power". GREAT movie!

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

I remember that movie! I never saw it though- I want to say it's a political thriller, right? I like all of those actors, but I especially enjoy pretty much anything with/directed by Clint Eastwood.

@jnagarya519 5 ай бұрын

The towel dispenser has a ROLL in it. One doesn't reuse one part of it.

@DavidvsFilm 5 ай бұрын

The one at the gas station when I was a kid looked it was perpetually on its LAST roll, so I’m glad to know that wasn’t the norm back then :) Thank you!

@jnagarya519 5 ай бұрын

@@DavidvsFilm Why would one assume that such a big box only had a loop in it?