PRESONUS EARMIX 16M REVIEW

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PRESONUS EARMIX 16M REVIEW

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Designed to communicate with the StudioLive Series III family of mixers, yet compatible with other AVB-enabled systems, the Presonus EarMix 16M accepts 16 mono channels of input via AVB networking. Multiple units can daisy-chained off the SL3 and multiple daisy-chains can be set up with and AVB switch.

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@IslandDigital 6 жыл бұрын

FINALLY , a well laid out review / info video. Thank you for your calm, knowledgable presentation. I appreciate SOMEBODY saying “ GET TO KNOW YOUR GEAR”. Nice job. This is the ONLY video of its type that kept my attention and left me wanting more. For THAT, I went to your site and subscribed. Nice job

@MarkJoel1960 4 жыл бұрын

No kidding. Agree. 100%.

@gershonveroba 6 жыл бұрын

Real world situations, real world problems, real world solutions... By far, the best way to get my attention as a real world musician. That guitar compression scenario is the perfect hook for club daters. Good job, John. I'll take 4. ..Drop them off when you're in the area.

@thatjazzshow 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gershon!

@sylvainlavoie9434 6 жыл бұрын

This was a nice, clear, straightforward presentation. Easy to understand, yet thorough enough to appreciate if we should investigate and invest further. Thanks for a job well done John.

@thatjazzshow 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Sylvain!

@paulsvenson7585 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks John. I appreciate your presentation style - clear, informative, easy to listen to (trombone jokes notwithstanding). I have one of the first EarMix units and love it!

@thatjazzshow 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting. Writing oboe jokes for the next video :)

@AntarcticGuitarEnthusiast 6 жыл бұрын

Nice explanation. Clear concise in the language that I speak and that hardly anyone in my little town even understands. Very refreshing and the fastest 7:46 in some time. I can't wait to dig into your channel and also watch your future tutorials. You have a new sub here. I've been using Pro Tools 11 and stopped upgrading at that point. I Bought Studio One Pro with their generous incentive of 1/2 off for PT's users and use it for new collaborators that are barely in because of budget and/or the learning curve. I teach them each as I get them involved. FYI a seed to plant: I stay up on PT's 11 because I can tempo map any recording for breathing life like (Click Tracks) into studio sessions that help many players feel comfortable. I can also still hear the difference between PT's 11 & S-1 and prefer the sound of PT's and my UAD Apollo 8. I have yet to do a tempo map in S-1 (I know how it's just 10 times faster in Pt's for me), but I can export the MIDI tempo map, all my recorded tracks and the arrangement in seconds from PT's and compact the whole new S-1 session and sent it via DB to a friend or client while were talking on the phone to them. All with both 3 DAWS loaded and ready to play, including LPX. The UAD allows me to have 4 virtual stereo inputs/outputs as should the rack PreSonus. I always find if you can think it up, it does it, you just have to learn how it will let you do it. Garbage in garbage out, still in ply today. These then become available as inputs to record into any one of the DAW's just remember to turm of / mute them on the UAD! Headphone custom on the fly real life mixes have been on my radar for some time. This could be a game changer for me or at least an augmentation towards improving my work flow. Thank you very much for your insight and knowledge. You inspire me to keep moving forward. You are a wealth of real life application knowledge. You also wear the suite really well. You immediately earned my attention. Maximum Respect ~ Loo

@thatjazzshow 6 жыл бұрын

My transition to Studio One wasn't overnight, the learning curve required a month or two. I immediately loved the MIDI layout of Studio One because of the similarities to Opcode Studio Vision. Pro Tools midi never impressed me. I agree with you about Pro Tools tempo mapping. It's excellent. Thank you for commenting.

@AntarcticGuitarEnthusiast 6 жыл бұрын

Ironically I started MIDI in the early 1990's with an Atari 1040st (it had MIDI ports) and wasn't very expensive. 4 mg of RAM, WoW! That's a lot. Back then, I recorded to tape machines and synced the machines so I learned MIDI the long hard way. Hardly any editing, it was a big deal when they added a MIDI editor and that was the 3rd floppy. It maxed out the Atari but you could transpose and there was this new thing called "velocity" it let you semi mix your drums hits (our main goal was always getting a drum track and a click you could hear) We've come a long way. Oh yeah and 16 colors after monochrome grey, orange and green. Ah those were the day's, not! Then came Roland en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_SC-55 with the Sound Brush and Canvas pre-GM: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hduVhsh-0dHIh2g.html. You could record drums via an Octapad drum controller (no sounds) The pair became my live band for many years at clubs and got me into the Casino lounges. Just taking up 1 rack space into... you got it a Mackie 16. Maximum Respect ~ Loo

@thatjazzshow 6 жыл бұрын

Wow! My first setup in the 80s was an Atari 1040ST and a 16 channel Tascam. I tracked on 1-14, left 15 blank and printed timecode on track 16. Primitive by today's standards, but cutting edge back then. I had the Atari in a closet for about 10 years as a keepsake. But I eventually threw it out. I still have the floppies to Hybrid Arts SMPTE Track Software. It was like producing music with sticks and stones.

@AntarcticGuitarEnthusiast 6 жыл бұрын

Dr T's Tiger Cub by Tran Whitley of NYC. He sold Tran-Tracks MIDI songs of all the latest and popular tunes. Turn key ready for the SC-55 if you had a tin ear. If you wanted his work to feel like a real drummer was on stage, you had to ramp up his excellent sequencing. They were great after you maxed the velocities to make the SC-55 hit their sweet spots. Brilliant minds think alike, haha. I chucked mine out too and I only have 1 MIDI cable for a foot controller to my AXE FX II in my studio. Other than that it's all MIDI over USB and Thunderbolt is my new best friend. I'm searching hi an low for a Hackintosh build that has real TB not just a mini display port, they look the same but MD is one way and TB is a 2 lane path, correct me if I'm wrong, as I often am and then i would become better educated. That's a good way to learn. I like being wrong as often as possible. Heck I'm wearing orthopedic insoles, so I stand corrected to start. Borrowed from Steven Wright, "I like reminiscing with people I just met." Maximum Respect ~ Loo

@AntarcticGuitarEnthusiast 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I ha a Fostex R-8 1/4' same deal one track for MTC it was happening. You had to plan and commit.

@Steviee8 4 күн бұрын

Love this video, So enjoyable and believable. and yes Trombone players love guacamole

@bayoulonesome2798 3 жыл бұрын

Great video John. Definitely going to be getting this to complement my 32SX. Such a wise statement to tell people to do their own R&D learn their systems before they put it into real world use. Do a friend a favor test the gear out at his show. Better to have a problem on a free gig than a paid one....

@thatjazzshow 3 жыл бұрын

Great suggestion. We've done that a few times!

@TheRickdoggie 6 жыл бұрын

Great review John! You rock, man.

@thatjazzshow 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Rick!

@librisc 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic presentation. Concise and to the point.

@hermandavid1757 6 жыл бұрын

Thx for the vid I have a 16 0 2 classic and looking to upgrade

@Yahoomediaclub 4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant well prepared pro video,

@presonus 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks John!

@erwinsanders3951 5 жыл бұрын

Will this work with the RM32AI?

@griffin8062 5 жыл бұрын

@@erwinsanders3951 Yes if you get an AVB expansion card

@corywilliams458 5 жыл бұрын

No fluff!.....Good stuff👍!

@thatjazzshow 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Cory!

@maxdcmusic 3 жыл бұрын

you should review all audio gear you are a total boss!

@thatjazzshow 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Max!

@blazing6string 5 жыл бұрын

How do you assign input to it? I can only figure out how to send aux sends to it. I’d like to have 1 control mix of channel 1 and 2 control 2 for example

@aryeh-kunstler 6 жыл бұрын

This video was informative

@aurinschackman5831 6 жыл бұрын

Thx John, Good look. Very nicely done!!!

@none-d3c 6 жыл бұрын

IEEE 1722.1 self discovers too,what is not to like . PreSonus are on the case again.

@fabianvasquezjr8852 6 жыл бұрын

Very professional review.

@jrmusic8010 2 жыл бұрын

Does the line outs have to be routed from the mixer because I can’t get a signal out?

@jeremyradawiec8919 3 жыл бұрын

How does the Earmix compare with just using an ipad or phone ?

@thatjazzshow 3 жыл бұрын

Either one performs well. It really depends on your needs. For example, in a studio where setup remains the same for months, maybe years, you can send stereo or mono feeds to HP2's controlled by iPads because it isn't a nightly setup/breakdown. You actually don't need the iPads, but you'll have to set up the headphone mixes and with 6 or 7 musicians, each one asking for more of this or less of that, it gets a bit tedious. I once had three horn players share an iPad, but that turned to not be a great idea. For mobile rigs, the Earmix is a mush better choice because it's a single wire connection and the physical mixer takes a lot of worry out of the hands of the audio engineer. Also, Earmix gives the performer per-channel eq and compression. In terms of sound, assuming you have a reliable headphone amp like the HP2, it's a tie. Thank you for commenting.

@RandyHanley 5 жыл бұрын

More videos, please. These are great!

@thatjazzshow 5 жыл бұрын

Shooting one in a week - covers the new firmware for Studio Live Series 3 DAW mode for Studio One & Pro Tools modes. Thank you for commenting!

@RandyHanley 5 жыл бұрын

Tendy Media thank you !

@teleoneil6187 4 жыл бұрын

Wow! Digital Masking Tape! Are these guys serious John? In this Digital-based World, it's a real disappointment that companies such as Presonus & Behringer elect to manufacture what they claim to be innovative digital gear only to fall short in this department. DIGITAL GREASE PENS & DIGITAL MASKING TAPE don't have any business being used to identify channels on this gear when LCDs are cheap & abundant in today's marketplace. I believe the ideal solution would definitely be to have a separate LCD scribble strip ( * See Note Below ) for each button plus one master LCD for all the other knobs to display their value when adjustments were being made. Both Presonus & Behringer should consider an upscale V2.0 model with the scribble strips because I believe the added cost would not be a limiting factor but rather, an added feature that most users would fully appreciate. I think both these companies need to step up & make scribble strips a standard feature on the headphone box. Great Video John as always & thank you for your time. You are very thorough with your coverage & I hope you don't mind my 2 cents. Perhaps I'm making too much of this topic but I think eventually someone will make this a reality & GREASE PENS & MASKING TAPE will go by the way of the DINOSAURS. * Note The current blue scribble strip used on the Presonus is far too bright & would light up like an LED light bar on a dark stage. What's needed is a scribble strip that only illuminates the text similar to the Line 6 Helix Floorboard. If there is a space limitation then having a verticle array might make more sense & the LCD could be a dual function pressable selector switch besides displaying the TEXT. To further John's point regarding Grey fonts this would go a long way when working on a dark stage & no need to use a flashlight.

@thatjazzshow 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting and for your excellent input. Yes, the visual can be a little tough, but paper labels are more generally accepted. Regarding "a dual function pressable selector switch besides displaying the TEXT" - really good idea, but I find the more options you give a a performer - the more questions, problems and distractions they have. I've worked in bands with 5, 6, as many as 10 horns and, outside of a the volume knobs, they have no idea what to do with a personal monitor. Midas has a very confusing layout to the average performer with no studio experience. I did a gig where the trumpet player had a meltdown during a rehearsal trying to figure it out. See pic media.sweetwater.com/api/i/f-webp__q-82__ha-0ef9513d7e7be285__hmac-a71408110ce0936732ccae2f5efee7fc0c4ead23/images/items/750/DP48-large.jpg.auto.webp

@bigrivermedia762 5 жыл бұрын

If I needed to use both a 32R (as a stagebox) and an Earmix to connect to my SL 32 console, would I need an AVB switch to do so? It doesn't appear I would be able to daisy chain the 32R and Earmix together via CAT5. (Or would I?)

@thatjazzshow 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, you can do this without an AVB switch. I've done it with my 16R when I was first getting started with the new setup. You can daisy chain up to 7 devices off an AVB port. Two things to consider: 1. Earmix has AVB in and Thru, the 32R does not have AVB thru, so your Earmix 16 has to be first in line. 2. Network audio port from your SL32 is not PoE, so you'll have to use the Earmix power supply. Also, Cat5 is nor recommended. Use Cat6e. Thank you for commenting.

@bigrivermedia762 5 жыл бұрын

@@thatjazzshow Great info, thank you! Your videos are immensely informative and helpful, keep up the great work.

@thatjazzshow 5 жыл бұрын

@@bigrivermedia762 You're welcome! A quick PS: if someone turns off the Earmix or accidentally unplugs it, you'll lose communication with your stagebox.

@ThisIsVersatile 2 ай бұрын

Able to use this for audio output from CS18AI?

@thatjazzshow 2 ай бұрын

CS18AI is a control surface designed for the RM series and for Studio One control and does not support AVB.

@kellylave13 Жыл бұрын

😂 Love the jokes... Great Info right here. Thx Mr John Tendy 🤙

@tbjgospeltracks499 3 жыл бұрын

Hey. So its not compatible with a 16.0.2?

@thatjazzshow 3 жыл бұрын

16.0.2 doesn't support AVB. There is a way to do it by sending axes to the inputs of an AVB rack mixer, but it's clumsy and expensive.

@johnlackner1193 3 жыл бұрын

Only 16 channels or did i miss something?

@thatjazzshow 3 жыл бұрын

Yes. The 16 channels can be a combination of individual channels or aux mixes and each Earmix 16 can have its own individual combination of aux mixes and/or individual channels. For example, the drummer can have his individual mics on 1-8, while the other performers can have their drum mix on a single stereo pair. Thank you for commenting.

@ShelbyWatson 5 жыл бұрын

Can I run out of my Presonus digital snake’s 2nd AVB port and not have to run a second cat6 from my presonus board? Or does it need it’s own dedicated line?

@thatjazzshow 5 жыл бұрын

You can have up to seven AVB devices on one chain. The NSB stagebox AVB B port will allow you to daisy chain additional NSB stage boxes or EarMix 16M personal monitors For more info go to page 23 of the user NSB user manual. Download here: pae-web.presonusmusic.com/downloads/products/pdf/NSB-Series_Stageboxes_Owners_Manual_EN_V3_25032019.pdf. Thank you for commenting!

@justlooking813 6 жыл бұрын

How does this thing compare to the A&H ME-1 and ME-500 series?

@thatjazzshow 6 жыл бұрын

My experience with ME is limited, but I've been on four or five gigs with ME systems a this summer. EarMix 16M and ME-1 both have excellent dynamic range. Definitely better dynamic range than Behringer - P-16 sounds like a kazoo by comparison. At a glance, ME layout seems simple but sub menus were confusing. ME-1 40 inputs of control seems like a benefit, but I've seen musicians throw absolute tantrums on stage trying to figure it out. (My uncle used to say "you give someone 10 bullets, they'll shoot off 10 of their toes.") Singers don't seem to have a preference, as they are getting their mix from the engineer... they're fronting a band, so they can't be hands-on. There is a global limiter. If there is channel-by-channel, I couldn't find it. Again, my experience with ME is extremely limited and, like I said in this video, you have to spend time learning your gear. But the performer doesn't own the gear, so when they get to the stage, they'll ask something like "which knob is bass?". These are all just initial thoughts. Looks like a deep system and I'll definitely research it. If I have a day free, I'll spend some time with one and upload a video. Thank you for commenting.