Priceless Vintage Watch Restored, a Collectors Timepiece

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A KZfaq first. Today we service an unobtainable Buren Incastar. We'll take a look at what makes this very rare vintage watch so special, as well as discuss the history of the Buren watch company. On a personal note, this is by far my favourite vintage watch and one of my favourite watch brands.
A special watch needs a special strap, so I'll also show the exotic skin strap-making process in this video. I hope you all enjoy a look at this very special watch.
#vintagewatches #WatchRestoration #watchrepair #vintagewatch
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History
The Buren Watch Company was created in 1898, following the acquisition of Fritz Suter & Cie, at the Swiss town Büren an der Aare (canton Bern), by the London company of H. Williamson Ltd. There were produced pocket watches of all types and table clocks. Due to the existing rail link H. Williamson Ltd. invested and expanded further in Büren and developed the site into an international branch. From 1916 Henry Williamson used the signature “Büren Watch Co.”
Then the H. Williamson Ltd. had to close due to a stock market crash. However, a group of Swiss and an Englishman provided the capital necessary to be able to continue the watch production under Swiss management and with the new name Uhrenfabrik Buren AG.
In 1966 the Buren Watch Company was sold to the Hamilton Watch Company. Buren quickly became the manufacturer of the majority of Hamilton watches, eliminating US production. Buren continued working on new movements, notably Calibre 82, a high-beat movement. But the Buren name was retired before it was finished. After Buren/Hamilton was taken over by the SSIH in 1971, the company rapidly failed. In 1972 came the end of the Buren Watch Company, with all assets sold.
Today the brand name is owned by the Schweizer Uhren Editionen (Swiss Watches Editions) in Hamburg, which again manufactures watches under this label. Partly with old movements, but to a large extent also with ETA movements.
Literature
The history of watchmaking in Buren / Switzerland (Die Geschichte der Uhrmacherei in Büren / Schweiz); Author Hans Kocher, ISBN 3-7667-1031-1
Source: www.watch-wiki.net/doku.php?i...
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Oil used
Light oil (escape wheel/third wheel/fourth wheel/balance pivots): Moebius 9010
Heavy oil (centre wheel/barrel arbor/barrel/motion work): Moebius HP 1300 or Moebius D5
Pallet oil: Moebius 941/2 and Moebius 9415 pallet grease (for fast beating watches over 19,800bph)
Mainspring: Moebius 8200 grease
Keyless work and upper crown wheel: Moebius 8301 grease
Cleaning agents
Elma - WF Pro Watch Cleaning
Elma Suprol Pro
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00:00 Introduction and History
00:30 Disassembling the Watch Movement
10:30 Cleaning the Watch Parts Thoroughly
11:25 Crafting a Snakeskin Watch Strap
21:30 Reassembling and Oiling the Movement
22:50 Winding the Mainspring: Left-Handed Spring, Right-Handed Winders!
24:30 Reassembling and Oiling the Back of the Mainplate
29:00 Reassembling and Oiling the Dial Side of the Mainplate
33:50 Tick Tock: Does the Watch Run?
39:11 Revealing the Results and Showcasing the Watch on Wrist

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@doedecaheedron 5 ай бұрын

Speaking as a goldsmith who has dropped 1 or 20 things. The best way to locate a small part I've found is to set a flashlight on the floor, in the middle of the room and then rotate it slowly. The beam should streak across the floor in a somewhat darkened room. EVERY LITTLE THING jumps out at you.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I will give that a go thank you for the tip! Awesome

@doedecaheedron 5 ай бұрын

@@Saving-Time really nice watch and great work on the band.

@joehead1294 5 ай бұрын

Does that work on shag carpeting? Just kidding... A long bar magnet will help with ferrous metals. Kinda sweep the area with it. I have one about 3 feet long.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I have one, and I've heard it referred to as a watchmaker's wand. I'm not sure KZfaq would be happy if i started waving my watchmakers wand about here on the channel :D

@arturocostantino623 5 ай бұрын

That’s what I do

@Blackeye35 5 ай бұрын

Funnily enough I have a Buren microrotor I restored and the setting lever screw was destroyed as well! Almost brought the project to a halt as it was integrated into the mainplate with no hope of swapping it out. Luckily I managed to work around it but not looking forward to the next service! Great videos, really enjoy your channel! Thank you.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it, I still need to get to my Buren microrotor, kind of hoping for a good set leaver screw now :)

@Blackeye35 5 ай бұрын

I'm sure you know they are works of art! Buren is at the top of my list along with Roamer for personal faves!@@Saving-Time

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I agree; this watch actually reminded me of a little of the early Roamer Cal. MST 352

@dominickcolasanto6582 Ай бұрын

Brovo looks great! Excellent choice in color and skin for the strap. Real cool vintage piece. Very enjoyable video.

@hughbryant1326 5 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed watching you go through the whole process. What a beautiful movement. Thank you for explaining everything you did in such detail.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

You are so welcome! Glad you liked it

@HalJalikakik 2 ай бұрын

Beautiful work and what a cool find! Thanks for sharing.

@8BitBrody 5 ай бұрын

Real happy to see the growth on the channel, mate! You deserve it.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thanks mate I think you know as well as I do that it takes more than good videos to make a go on KZfaq; it takes a lot of luck! I'm just happy the almighty algorithm seems to like my stuff at the moment Next week, who knows? It's good to see you back, and I hope life is treating you well.

@focus-digital-marketing-ai 12 күн бұрын

I've been out of commission for the past 48 hours due to my annual back issue, but discovering your videos has been an absolute pleasure. You have introduced me to some truly exceptional and unique timepieces that I will be adding to my collection. I genuinely appreciate the effort you put into creating these videos. I'll definitely be checking out your strap shop, as I have a few dailies that could use a unique touch.

@kswaminathan5439 5 ай бұрын

Fantabulous restoration of a superb vintage watch. Thumbs up.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Many thanks!

@LindsayStampfli 5 ай бұрын

Fantastic video, loved seeing the whole process!

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you, I wanted to do something nice before i started shouting at the rusty Bulova ;)

@adfpv1153 5 ай бұрын

Excellent my friend, beautiful restoration of a fascinating watch. 👍👍

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. It's always nice to get feedback from a fellow tinkerer

@etebol Ай бұрын

Thank you for showing the making of the strap. It would ve nice if you made a video of the process more in detail. 😊

@darrenfry4695 5 ай бұрын

Im so glad you went with the blue skin for your w.strap, most people would of gone safe and picked black but thats so boring ,youve a one in a million watch so you want to show it off, like you have with that awesome snake skin blue strap to go with a gorgeous watch.t.y for showing us your watch and your skill.cheers.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I'm glad you liked it appreciate you taking the time to let me know.

@ygrbooks 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing this great video on a spectacular watch: 👍👌👏!

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Welcome back, and thanks once again for the kind words.

@blisz2718 5 ай бұрын

Amazing piece. Amazing strap. Perfect size for your wrist also. nice one :)

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Yup, it came out nice, I thought, hope you enjoyed a look at it

@rosemarymagrino772 5 ай бұрын

The watch came out great! That handmade strap is beautiful!

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@markboon341 5 ай бұрын

Love your multiscreen visuals . Wonderful presentation.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Many thanks! I appreciate you letting me know.

@alexandregb566 5 ай бұрын

I enjoy this kind of content. I'm subscribed to a bunch of different watchmaker channels. I'll never run out of content to watch 😂. The video in which you made a dial was the first I watched on your channel, and I liked your hard work to try to make a dial.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you I appreciate the sub and the kind words

@mattappleyard92 5 ай бұрын

Great vid !

@trickyd499 5 ай бұрын

Fantastic!

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Many thanks!

@CaptainJerry- 5 ай бұрын

I am happy you found a treasure! Recently I had the same luck after buying a lot of 60 watches online for US$60. Ten of the pieces were non-working gems, rare and expensive! The seller had no idea what they were selling. Now I have a year's worth of restoring and enjoyment to add to my collection! The gold alone is worth $750!

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Nice find! I wish you the best of luck with the restoring!

@DecemberNames 5 ай бұрын

5I just watched your video and I really enjoyed it! Your video was well-made, informative, and entertaining. I especially liked the way you explained the topic in a clear and concise way. I also appreciate the way you included relevant details in your video. Overall, I thought your video was excellent! I would definitely recommend it to others who are interested in learning more about the topic.

@HorologyHubub 5 ай бұрын

Fabulous video my friend and a fascinating movement. 👍

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I appreciate that. I see your 99p video did well. The new audio sounds great to me, btw. Audio is bloody hard to get right. Good luck with the channel

@HorologyHubub 5 ай бұрын

@@Saving-Time 😂😂 it’s all bloody hard but you make it look effortless. Thanks for the encouragement 👍

@ShuggsComicsandStatues 5 ай бұрын

Just found your channel Mate, great restoration, and that is a beautiful Watch!

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you kindly! Buren made this one very easy to work on, for sure. I appreciate the kind words.

@user-uf2sr5mk6t 5 ай бұрын

I love the blue David, really nice watch. You really never know what you’re gonna come across…this reminds me of my Roamer & a Minerva which are both nice looking but fairly unassuming. Then you open them & they just explode with beauty & are, as you mentioned, an absolute pleasure to work on. Thanks again

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Yup, this one reminds me somewhat of Roamer Cal. MST 264. I'm glad you enjoyed it, You are most welcome

@johnburgess6572 2 ай бұрын

Beautiful

@Saving-Time 2 ай бұрын

This watch is even better in person; I'm glad you liked a look at it.

@tonycollard4185 5 ай бұрын

Excellent video David! I totally understand why you are taken with Buren. This is one unique watch. Brilliant!!

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Many thanks! You turned me into a Gruen fan, seems only right that I return the favour by making you go get some Burens.

@tonycollard4185 5 ай бұрын

Hahaha. As if buying too many watches wasn't easy enough, we are now compounding the problem with suggestions. Help!! 😱😂

@jpwillm5252 4 ай бұрын

You are a master watchmaker!

@saisamayseva8712 5 ай бұрын

Nice finish of the strap.Good movt Buren 370.All the best.

@chadpyett6441 5 ай бұрын

I agree find a gold case movement like that deserves to shine great video

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I will post an update on my IG when i do instagram.com/savingtime_yt/ if you are interested in seeing what that looks like.

@ABC-rh7zc 5 ай бұрын

Beautiful watch (well, the original parts at least). Hope you find that perfect gold case for it.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I hope so too! Thank you

@davidhammond9336 5 ай бұрын

Great video, nothing wrong with a blue strap. I have a Seiko 7025 8120 with a dark blue leather strap. Looks fantastic with the Seiko blue dial. Yours strap is another level.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Nice watch! Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and the strap.

@kipkapper3014 5 ай бұрын

what a beautiful looking movement, dial and the hands look so nice. man what a beauty.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

It really is! Hope you enjoyed the video :)

@nicklapietra3890 5 ай бұрын

Great video. Thanks.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you Glad you liked it

@francispalmer9737 5 ай бұрын

Brilliant, I would like to have seen how that star device on the balance worked, very unusual. Thank you Saving-Time

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I would have loved to take it apart to show you but the chances of me mucking that up seemed high and the chances of replacing parts were indeed very small.

@Aco747lyte 5 ай бұрын

That is a very lovely watch which even my young watchmaker daughter Billie said she would be proud to wear, even search for an original gold case to house the movement in. I'm new to your channel and am very impressed with your dedicated workmanship, easy-to-listen-to narration and I wish you a very happy weekend ~ Wendi UK 🌻

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you, sir. I very much appreciate the kind words, and I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Greetings from Prague

@XMarkxyz 5 ай бұрын

The irony of the commentary always gets me "even though I'm not Breguet" 😂 Also what a piece thise movement, never seen such regulation for the airsping

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

First for me, it's a great watch

@HPayne1650 5 ай бұрын

This movement screams quality. The lack of markings, typically seen from past watchmakers, would hint to the quality and trouble free life it seems to have had. A great find. I truly enjoy the strap making. Lizard or ostrich would also be nice in blue IMO. I agree that a gold case and a milled case ring would make this an heirloom piece. Thanks for sharing.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you. I agree Lizard or ostrich would also have worked a treat. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

@BrownPeterAnthony 5 ай бұрын

Its really interesting watching you pull the watch apart, at which point I am thinking thats the end of that. However seeing it run again is fantastic. you have a wonderful skill.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you. This watch was pretty easy to do as it's so well made. If you'd like to see me on the struggle bus, see practically any of my other videos.

@brunotulliani 5 ай бұрын

Good for you! Beautiful caliber! Great!

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@jantepas7511 5 ай бұрын

What a regulation, great video. Thanks!

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@ronl7131 5 ай бұрын

Good restoration. Nice timepiece.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

@johnpinner1 5 ай бұрын

That strap is super great looking and right color

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you. I thought it worked well on the watch. Glad you liked it

@andyyoung3233 5 ай бұрын

Very nice watch mate

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you kindly

@ehrenkrause9861 5 ай бұрын

It's a very beautiful movement even for simplicity

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I'm glad you enjoyed a look at it. Thanks for the comment

@H0kram 5 ай бұрын

That was fascinating to watch. I know it's a bit of a hassle but if you ever consider adding the '' natural '' sound of your work on the watch and strap, I think it would be a great addition. I wanna practice some craftmanship now 😅

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I have thought about it, and I'm planning to do it at some point. I just need to find the right mic for it. My cameras at the moment do not have a mic in so that will need a bit of an upgrade as well :( always something. Glad you enjoyed it

@cormackeenan8175 5 ай бұрын

I’ve watched too many A. Lange & Sohne videos to appreciate the beautiful movement you have 🤣 But thanks any road.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

That's very sad for you. I really do feel bad that you can't appreciate this wonderful movement from the 1950s. What an absolutely awful way to view the world. I've worked on watches for years and received thousands of comments from people on videos, and this is the saddest thing I've read so far. It makes me feel old and tired.

@cormackeenan8175 5 ай бұрын

@@Saving-Time well we’re birds of a feather then, I’m 64 and could never afford an A. Lange & Sohne watch, in fact i couldn’t even afford the charge for the service interval so you can take solace from that.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I take no solace from that; I'd prefer you could have one. Very few people could afford one, and most people who buy one can't actually afford to do so. Personally, i'd never give the Richemont group my money Johann Peter Rupert already has 10 billion dollars; he does not need more money from me. If I were going to drop $30,000 on a watch, it would be this one: www.sarauerhorology.ca/

@carrosa1mx 5 ай бұрын

Magnificent watch!!! Magnificent video!!! Perhaps in the future you could make one describing how to adjust the Inscastar, it would be very insightful.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Yes, I regret not doing more with it. It was not until I came to edit the video that I realized I should have gone a bit more in depth into the incastar. Next time, for sure.

@keithschwartz7318 4 ай бұрын

Holy smokes! A pro leather crafter as well. Black is so common. Blue was a good choice.

@Saving-Time 4 ай бұрын

Thank you. I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for letting me know.

@alexandregb566 5 ай бұрын

28:54 Those three things look like three brother cyclops mesmerized by looking at you 😂.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

it's a very beautiful movement :)

@paulpietruszewski4226 5 ай бұрын

I enjoy your commentary.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

@faitestealer 4 ай бұрын

I just wanted to comment on something you said and offer a correction. In the same way Buren had the first micro-rotor to market, Seiko had the first automatic chronograph to market, not caliber 11 that Buren was apart of the development on. Also the first Quartz, and the first Quartz chronograph for good measure. Okay, thanks. Continue making amazing videos.

@Saving-Time 4 ай бұрын

It's hard to say who was first "Jack Heuer noted that the head of Seiko then, Mr. Itiro Hattori, visited the Heuer booth at Baselworld 1969 and congratulated them on their claim to the first production automatic chronographs. Based on his anecdote, it’s possible that Seiko acknowledged they came after." it might have been Seiko there is some debate about who was first. I should have brought it up in the video. Thank you for the correction I appreciate the time you took to let me know.

@watchrestorationchannel1061 5 ай бұрын

Well done! I like it🤝

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙌 I liked the JLC you did some time ago; great stuff!

@watchrestorationchannel1061 5 ай бұрын

@@Saving-Time Beautiful watch, unfortunately it's not mine.😥

@awdturbopowah773 5 ай бұрын

Bravo! You are unbelievably talented sir! Not only a great job with the watch restoration, but the fact you make such an amazing band as well is just too cool. Also, your filming and editing is top notch! Incredibly slick, and looks jaw-droppingly good. May I ask what cameras and lenses you're using? Anyway, thanks for the terrific video, and can't wait to see more content from your channel, cheers! 🍻

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you very much. I use Sony HDR 405s and a macro lens that I had to 3D print an adaptor for. I would not recommend the cameras except in very specific scenarios where filming is done in very bright light. I'd like to upgrade to Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Cameras, but I need 3 of them, so maybe at 100k subscribers, lol if I ever get there.

@awdturbopowah773 5 ай бұрын

@@Saving-Time Wow! You’re getting terrific results with that Handycam, well done. 👍 Hope we can get you to 100k subs and those black magic cameras. 😁

@saurik6019 5 ай бұрын

Well done! What a beauty. I went into the same hobby last year and there´s not a single day without discovering new tools and new methods things to manage. I love your content and enjoy your channel. One big question: How is your camera setting and what equipment are you using? I would love to see your workbench

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Camera: i use sony cx 405's; they are not good You need enough light to give yourself a suntan, and they are useless if anything is moving. I use three cameras, 4 if you count the one on the microscope, so I needed something cheap that could record for a long time without overheating. They fit the bill, but only for very specific use cases. instagram.com/p/CvAOvwEI5if/ my workbench, such as it is

@saurik6019 5 ай бұрын

@@Saving-Time thank you so much 👍🏻

@garybradbury9526 5 ай бұрын

New sub from Manchester, loving your video's 👍👍

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub I lived in Manchester for a couple of years, many moons ago.

@garybradbury9526 5 ай бұрын

@@Saving-Time no worries mate I'm 60 lol

@Vermontguy87 5 ай бұрын

Yes get a gold case for this watch!!!!

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I am hunting for one as we speak.

@oilguygamer1744 3 ай бұрын

yet another superb video, I have now watched 4 of yours and I am going to watch everything on your channel, old and new. I do have one question, I have never even attempted to make a watch strap, but I would like to try. Is there a book or instruction pdf that you could recommend for me to read as part of the learning process? Again many thanks for the video.

@jcreek9055 5 ай бұрын

Beautiful watch! And a great use for a snake. One of our local copper heads would look great on my wrist. I just need to learn how to tan snake skin!

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Hunting and tanning your own snake would be the boss move! Glad you liked the watch

@GentlemensWatchServices 5 ай бұрын

Beautiful work all round, and fascinating watch. 100% agree on the hand polishing question, it just ends up looking like Jimmy Carr's teeth.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Hey mate, thank you very much. I hope the channel is doing well. Lets do another colab at some point i'll shoot you an email :)

@GentlemensWatchServices 5 ай бұрын

Would love to! Speak soon!

@springbay1 5 ай бұрын

I'm late to the party this time, but want to thank you for yet another 40 min that flies away like 5. I totally agree with you decision to cut away some of the oiling parts, but for a newbie like me, I would had enjoyed a little about how the Cartier clasp work with the bands without the use of any holes. That seems like some advanced magic to me. 😅

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I'm glad you enjoyed it! You are most welcome. The clasp is quite simple; i should have covered it, though I've just fitted so many of them now it did not occur to me DO'h kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z6ljaJWplpvDk40.html There is a short video of how it works.

@springbay1 5 ай бұрын

@@Saving-Time Thank you for taking the time to help with explaining to someone who is still fiddeling with spring bars. It makes me even more curious about different qualities of leather wrist bands. I assume the Cartier buckle will break or ruin a wrist band that is too stiff. You are simply opening doors in my wristwatch journey. Many thanks for that.

@metaldetectingthenortheast1294 5 ай бұрын

Neat piece! Had to look it up. Seems Ernest borel used it and saw it on an old Invicta chronograph . Had to be one of those better mouse trap type things that never caught one. Like the gruen air flight. Those are neat.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I believe it was made by Porte-Echappement Universel SA the same people who made all of the incablock systems. Both companies would likely have licensed the technology, having an existing relationship with Porte

@nickjames205 5 ай бұрын

I just finished a Buren grand Prix two days ago. Very underrated

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I agree that this is one of the most underrated watch brands out there at the moment!

@LCMNUNES1962 5 ай бұрын

EXCELENTE SERVIÇO 👍👍 🇧🇷

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Obrigado, é bom vê-lo de volta ao canal

@playcube5725 5 ай бұрын

Na sklíčka používám obyčejný sitol z drogérie. Někde jsem to přečet a nevěřil jsem že to je možný, ale funguje to nádherně.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Děkujeme. Zkusím to.

@petrzilinsky7800 5 ай бұрын

Let me guess, Aukro? I found there square Dugena with mikrorotor in beautiful shape. Nice video as always

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Yup, I think I bid on that Dugena. I own a round Degena microrotor. Thanks for the kind words.

@John-rs3ib 5 ай бұрын

Beautiful watch its the style I love with a subdial you look so at ease working on it and like someone else mentioned I'd have gold plated the case I love the lugs style and love the way you think I choose a watch cos I love a dial and to me that's an important part is the look of the dial I wish I could have sent my vintage omega seamaster deville to you to service I don't trust these jewelers

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you very much! If I don't find a solid gold case I like, i will indeed gold plate this one. I'm glad you liked the video!

@vlad4281 4 ай бұрын

Once again an excellent video, thank you for kindly sharing. I'm also restoring an old Buren, just a plain Cal 370 with a worn main spring - would you be kind enough to share which spring you used and where I can find one, many thanks.

@Saving-Time 4 ай бұрын

Part number at www.cousinsuk.com/ GR4747 size is Mainspring: 1.650 x 10.000 x 0.105 x 360.000 mm hope that helps

@vlad4281 2 ай бұрын

You’re a gentleman, yes a big help, thank you so much 😊

@todds2248 5 ай бұрын

What would be the reason for having minute indices on the movement itself? Adjusting in the pre-timegrapher days (without dial installed)? I've seen it on a couple movements now.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Yes, I believe it was done for timing reasons. I'm not 100% sure this was the only thing it was used for, but I think so. I hope you enjoyed the video

@Myrtilys 5 ай бұрын

Man, Buren watches are always so well-made. I've got a Hamilton 620 which was a Buren 1005(?) microrotor and the finishing on that is superb. Phenomenal watches to work on. Also, quick question. Do you know the brand of those winders? Looking for a "decent" set of winders and Bergeon are considerably out of my price range, adn teh chinese ones are useless to me. lol

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

C&E. Marshall CO Mainspring winders also under the name of Watch-Craft I paid about $120 for mine but I had to wait a while for them to come up at that price. Good luck!

@Myrtilys 5 ай бұрын

@@Saving-Time That's a lot better than $1,200 for Bergeon winders. Thank you so much for the information!

@MuhButtsBeenWiped 5 ай бұрын

What brand of edge paint do you use? I've been making my own straps for a couple of years now. I got into watch strap making because I have 8" wrist and finding quality straps that fit my wrist at a reasonable price is impossible.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Fenice is pretty good Give that a try if you have not. I feel your pain. I have the opposite problem with small wrists, but it is still an issue. Buying bespoke straps gets expensive fast if you're a vintage collector I have straps that are worth more than some of my watches. I hope you enjoyed the video

@Robert32064 5 ай бұрын

Nice work and nice watch. I like the case. The band is great, as always. I'm not a fan of the clasp.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I hated the Cartier clasp and the way it required the strap to be folded over. I only kept one around to test straps in it so I could do test fits for clients. I have a bunch of deployants for this purpose. Then one day I ended up with a spare strap for it, so I decided to try wearing it. Long story short, it's now my favourite clasp. I appreciate the kind words Thank you

@k-ozdragon 5 ай бұрын

I did a quick search and found a bunch of Incastar watches immediately lol

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Of course you did Several companies used the incastar, just like practically every Swiss company used the incaloc. If you find one in Buren, please let me know; I'd like to buy it.

@k-ozdragon 5 ай бұрын

@@Saving-Time I realized later you meant just the Buren. I will certainly put my Google-fu into action.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I'm not saying there is only one out there, just that I can't find another and have never seen one. Good luck! Do let me know if you find one.

@k-ozdragon 5 ай бұрын

@@Saving-Time Definitely!

@CharlesThompson-ou7wp Ай бұрын

Beautiful watch! Could this possibly be a prototype by Buren at the time?

@RalonsoF1 5 ай бұрын

What a Masterpiece!!! Congratulations!! 😊👍

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you very much! it's a lovely watch for sure.

@bigwangmark 5 ай бұрын

Should have made a black one....Just kidding that strap was amazing. I was getting into watch repair but after watching a lot of your videos of late it's making me more interested in learning strap making as well. Do you have any methods to breaking in new straps or with the ones you make break in is not much of an issue? I have found with some types of straps I buy eg sailcloth and rubber types that are stiff and take a bit to break in that using hot water with the straps in a curved glass and then into cold works a treat in shaping and making break in easy. Still with fancy leather straps im sure there is safer ways to do this.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

The straps I make don't need a break-in period; it's all about picking the right leather for the job. Give the strap making a go. Pick up veg-tan leather between 0.8 mm and 1.2 mm for the front and calf skin or lamb skin for the back. Look at Conceria Walpier - Buttero is a good place to start; it's expensive, but straps are small. Saving on materials is not the best way to go, IMO. I make strap making look pretty easy, it's not. Expect to go through a bit of leather before you make something that's nice. But if your okay with that, i'd recommend it It's fun, and hand-made bespoke leather straps are very expensive, so you'll save some cash in the long term. Good luck

@AnalogDave 5 ай бұрын

Black straps are boring. Man, this is the second video I watched that you make a strap. They are incredible. Wish I had your talent. The watch turned out good too! haha.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you. I'm not the biggest fan of black, although it occasionally does have its place. I just popped into your channel and watched your "First Vintage Mechanical Watch Service" video. Good stuff, and good luck with it. Daves channel for anyone that wants to give it a look www.youtube.com/@AnalogDave

@bezimienny_andzej6425 5 ай бұрын

I absolutely love hand-wound movements. However, nowadays there's very little to choose from. Unitas 6497/8 and its clones are big, they require at least 41mm case and many case designs have to be even bigger. It's not thin either. Most other hand-wound movements are very small. And in the age of men's watches generally being 38mm and larger, it makes 0 sense for the movement to be relatively small at 25mm and less. Most are low beat, low power reserve and their cost is prohibitive, while Seiko's NH35 automatic movement sells for 25$ and makes profit and we're talking about retail. If you want to buy them in bulk, they get even cheaper. There is no such thing as cheap hand wound movements with large power reserve, hacking and good beat rate around 31-32mm. I wonder, maybe people do not really like hand-winding their watches every 2 days (assuming a 52+h power reserve)? I definitely enjoy it, but maybe that's why automatics are holding well while hand-wound watches not so much? I love the simplicity and reliability of hand-wound movements. The only downside I see is the water resistance - push-pull crowns can be plenty water resistant, but turn the crown 30 times every 2 days and it will degrade it quite quickly.

@blister762 3 ай бұрын

If you do put the movement in a new case, I hope you will show us so we can see the final watch.

@SopwithTheCamel 5 ай бұрын

Pity about the strap. Excellent work.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you. Let me guess: black or brown?

@narendravara5134 5 ай бұрын

Nice video. I like the case and why not plate it gold.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I like it as well, I might just do that. If i do i'm sure i'll make a video at some point.

@FiveStringCommando 5 ай бұрын

Love the outcome. The strap really makes it pop. I personally would have polished the case and had it gold-plated (or at least nickel-plated again) whilst waiting for a gold case to arrive.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thanks, If i can't find a case i like soon, I may do just that

@KT_ASV 5 ай бұрын

❤

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thanks

@stevewilliams5428 5 ай бұрын

Ernest Borel used 'incastar' as well. Surprised there wasn't a patent infringement or maybe there was and Buren got a wrist slap?

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

@user-gl8yv5uj7r 4 ай бұрын

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@matthewakin1235 5 ай бұрын

i have an incastar watch but not a buren. did not know buren ever used the incastar system.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Neither did I... They did a good job though!

@robcarnaroli269 5 ай бұрын

Yeah MrsST!

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Don't encourage her or this is going to turn into the Ms ST channel. ;)

@davidmills1874 5 ай бұрын

Google I have to do a KZfaq short on just how to fasten that clasp it's very interesting I've never seen one

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

It's an interesting clasp, as I mentioned in the video. It needs a quite specific strap, though. I hope you enjoyed the video.

@vril99 5 ай бұрын

Beautiful❤

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you! 😊

@christiankirkenes5922 5 ай бұрын

Considering most high end Buren sell for $5k plus it'd be worth many thousands more easily.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Well this one is staying with me unless someone makes me an offer i can't refuse.

@thunderdick6117 5 ай бұрын

Absolute jewel of a watch and what a find . It definitely went to the right owner someone who would share a good look into a beautiful piece of timekeeping history. Now I would be lying if I said that I was not jealous of your procurement of such a watch but so is life you can't find every watch up for sale and if you can you are a better man than me. Thank you for sharing this beautiful watch and like I said it went to the right owner someone who will love it for what it is and cherish it and appreciate it's rarity and not resale it to the man with the fattest billfold. The wealthy already have enough stuff it's about time that the rest of us get a piece . Brilliant video and brilliant find and what a bit of luck . If you have a bit more luck and find out more history about this movement please share . I'm going on a search right now to try and find something about it . Absolutely awesome video I love seeing rare items like this.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I'm happy I got a chance to give everyone a look at this. You can find the same movement without the incastar out there, and I definitely recommend that watch's price-to-value ratio be of the charts if your looking for a great watch, try searching for the Buren cal. 370 or even the Cal. 410

@BobGP1 5 ай бұрын

Did i fix yours about 5 years ago on London?

@BobGP1 5 ай бұрын

No i fixed another

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I only acquired mine about a year ago; I was last in London more than 10 years ago. I've never seen another one; I assume there are a few out there in the world

@BobGP1 5 ай бұрын

@@Saving-Time they are unusual but I have been lucky enough to play with a few

@birdshenanigans8506 5 ай бұрын

It's as beautiful as your ego❤

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Thank you I think lol

@harshchawda7533 5 ай бұрын

Hi sir i found one watch from my grandfather s drawer would you like to restore it?

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I'm just an amateur; for something like that, you'd need a professional watchmaker. Good luck

@MR_R.o.b.o.t.o 2 ай бұрын

It's worth about $25 US

@Saving-Time 2 ай бұрын

So your saying it is worth about 25 times more than your opinion, then lol cool

@ethanspaziani1070 5 ай бұрын

I know I've seen this movement somewhere before but I can't fucking remember where for the life of me......

@rickseconds7676 5 ай бұрын

Beautiful watch, not a fan of the strap though.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

Yes, the strap was always going to be hit or miss, I liked it, but this one is definitely a question of personal taste. Glad you liked the watch

@jamie-ox8sg 3 ай бұрын

So its a 1 of 1 watch ?

@Saving-Time 3 ай бұрын

Not quite, if I had to guess I'd say production numbers somewhere in the low 100s.

@marionchase-kleeves8311 5 ай бұрын

32:02 the spring exists in an alternate universe like very young children and old, decrepit politicians

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

LOL maybe so I would not be surprised

@wendyandgeoffpattison2610 5 ай бұрын

I disagree wholeheartedly with you about cleaning the dial, and a polish of the case then gold plating would make that guy look a million dollars, as it should. I just don't get the "patina" thing.

@Saving-Time 5 ай бұрын

I'll be recasting this watch in solid gold; otherwise, I would have replanted it. As to the dial, cleaning will do nothing to this but damage the dial; it would need to be reprinted, which is easy enough, but that would knock off most of the value of the watch, so... I'm not saying you're wrong. Some people like things to look new, but in the case of watches, a 70-year-old watch with a pristine dial is almost always a reprinted dial, and to most collectors, it's worth about 70% less than it would have been if you'd left it alone. So if you like that sort of thing, just know you should be paying way less money for it unless the seller can prove the dial has never been restored. Basically, I like old things to look old; if I wanted a watch that looked new, I'd buy a new one. Good news for you, though. If you don't mind a restored dial, you should be able to pick up some cheaper watches.