Prime bows are blatantly underrated. I’m so glad Wayne carries them now. Great review Kell. Been waiting on this one no doubt!
@shadyp-zv3uf3 жыл бұрын
Ikr I have always seen Prime as a major contender!!!
@bobalotb67603 жыл бұрын
I love my Logic.. What caught my eye was the logical reasons for why they do what they do ironically enough. Also 2 cams side by side just looks balanced to me.. Really itching for this bow though, idk is i want the 2 or the 4 though.. ugh.. Prime dealers are far from me..
@caseyberning77893 жыл бұрын
You always have the most informative reviews and the tips you have made for different topics are some of the best I’ve seen on here!
@pronghornobsession3 жыл бұрын
I just shot this at our local shop. Very nice 30"DL and 65# 475gr arrow at 275 bumped it to 30" and 72# it shot 291fps with 475gr arrow. Nice bow
@kevindown27553 жыл бұрын
I liked the Black 5 when I shot it & I was considering buying it. Now I think this is the better option. I agree with Kellen the fit & finish is excellent on Prime products.
@josephtreadlightly56863 жыл бұрын
The search is over...I was sold only after 2 shots....today, February 6th. I watched & subscribed a month ago. Today I ordered the Nexus 4 with the First Lite riser & Sitka Elevated II limbs. The extra $50 custom charge with 65 lb. limbs I hope will get me the bow sooner than later. I own a Centergy & a Logic CT-5 so after 2 shots I knew it was an upgrade over the generation I Black series. I had some shoulder issues starting in 2019 which forced me to switch jobs which took care of that problem. I had a slight twang with the CT-5 which I shot a 515 grain arrow out of. In 2020 I hunted with my Centergy successfully with a 570 grain upgraded micro arrow setup which adopted the Valkyrie system. The Nexus 4 with the 570 grain arrow was very quiet like the Centergy & that was w/o a stabilizer. I will chrono the custom bow when it comes in @ 62 lbs. with that arrow along with some new shafts I am going to make from scratch between now & then & will report back on the results. The new grip is fantastic & the large loops on top & bottom are not an issue when it comes to my sight window. The draw cycle is so smooth & the bow is so efficient that it leaves u scratching your head. I agree that Prime made more than modest changes in 2021 unlike other bow companies that just seemed willing to tweak a little & offer shorter bows as their selling point. The draw cycle of the bow was what I expected & it was similar to an Evolve that I used to shoot but the Nexus 4 just holds on the target like the other Prime's do. The grip on the Evolve was always an issue for me & it never has been with the Prime grip I would say is 2nd to none.
@usbsol3 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see the PSE Evl hit their IBO numbers 🤗
@outdooranalytics78873 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to find one of these to try. Look like an awesome bow.
@richevans65063 жыл бұрын
Shot one, bought one. This thing is magic.
@greekmaster10013 жыл бұрын
I didn't shoot mine but I bought one. Hopefully I'll like it....never owned a prime
@patriotref75363 жыл бұрын
Waited for the Hoyts to come out. Put a deposit on the nexus 4 after shooting everything side by side. Prime is such a good rig
@richevans65063 жыл бұрын
G5 Prime is experiencing major delays with their supply chain. Bought it December 11th 2020, still haven't received it. The dealer tells me their Prime rep won't return their calls.
@richevans65063 жыл бұрын
@@patriotref7536 Still waiting for mine. Did you get yours yet?
@patriotref75363 жыл бұрын
@@richevans6506 no sir still waiting but it’s only been about 4 weeks. Shop told me 6 to 8 so.
@josephtreadlightly56863 жыл бұрын
I like that u r toughing it out shooting wrong handed. Welcome to the Covid era. When it comes down to it it's all about the efficiency & accuracy. I ordered it cuz of the grip & smooth draw. Loved a bow draw cycle on a bow 3 years ago but I couldn't shoot it as accurate & consistently as a Prime. I like it when a company does many changes to achieve a goal. I believe Prime has achieved this with the Nexus 4
@saulgood61903 жыл бұрын
Why people don't loctite the mod screws once you get it tuned is beyond me..
@greekmaster10013 жыл бұрын
Correct
@adrian.r9683 жыл бұрын
Prime is the best deal at the moment.
@jayceonjudson30383 жыл бұрын
I guess Im quite randomly asking but does anyone know of a good website to stream newly released movies online ?
@luccafrancis42273 жыл бұрын
@Jayceon Judson Flixportal :P
@jayceonjudson30383 жыл бұрын
@Lucca Francis Thanks, signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :D I appreciate it !!
@luccafrancis42273 жыл бұрын
@Jayceon Judson you are welcome =)
@Nick-we6rd3 жыл бұрын
Love your content. Could you talk more about the draw cycle in your bow reviews? I know it’s challenging since most of the time you need to shoot a RH bow, but draw cycle is one of the most important factors to me while speed doesn’t play as big a role.
@the_sharp_carpenter3 жыл бұрын
People that don't even like primes say they are one of the smoothest drawing bows. I've heard from multiple people that "if I knew the Nexus was going to be this smooth and easy to pull, I would have ordered 80# limbs"
@davidshipley15453 жыл бұрын
Love the Vids! Keep them coming and Happy New Year.
@ianmcgaughey13 жыл бұрын
I've got a guy at my shop shooting a 514 grain arrow 282 out of a black 3. 29.5/73. We shot the Nexus 4 with his arrow through a whisker biscuit and it was 285 although it wasn't paper tuned. I may paper tune it tomorrow and see what I get.
@aaronward38823 жыл бұрын
Let off makes a difference
@EBair3 жыл бұрын
Always uploading them early in the morning! Love the reviews and happy new year! Can we get a review of the pse xpedite nxt?? Would love to hear your opinion on it
@EBair3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha yeah kota's review is a little biased too because he got the bow for free. I like the way kellen breaks down a bow, would like to hear his opinion on the Xpedite nxt
@josephtreadlightly56863 жыл бұрын
I have my Nexus 4 @ centershot & bare shaft tuned it. Micro arrows r really burying themselves into a hard target. It does as u suggested. A slight right tear I'm saying that's about 3/8". The same 3 bare shafts I fletched & they did the same. No shims were put in since the shop was closing for good. Looks like it will open sometime in July @ a new location. I'm confident it would shoot perfect if it had the large shims to the left. I'm not basing this on just paper but the history I have with these arrow builds that take time. Looks like I'm going to have to find a guy good with a press to swap them in for me. Just want it to be right on b4 shooting 3D targets from a 🌳.
@shadyp-zv3uf3 жыл бұрын
The prime the V3 and the PSE NTN are about the fastest bows so far this year I believe
@jcagle893 жыл бұрын
The reason the other review might have had higher speeds is the first bows shipped ran a lot heavier. The first 32 my shop saw bottomed out at 76lbs.
@Petro00D3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I made this request to another channel and maybe you could also take this approach. I thought it would be nice to see a video of bows that are great for both hunting and 3d and which ones you recommend. I would think the Nexus 4 would be a very good candidate.
@InsideOutPrecision3 жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty much any bow thats in the 33-35" ata range make crossover bows
@greekmaster10013 жыл бұрын
I ordered mine last week
@richevans65063 жыл бұрын
Did you get yours yet? Still waiting for mine. 3 months and counting.
@greekmaster10013 жыл бұрын
@@richevans6506 it's actually arriving this Wed finally
@jimk27623 жыл бұрын
If you put the draw stops to 65 I bet it will pick up speed, especially if you then ignore the draw length listing and use a board to set it I’m sure you would pick up half an inch.
@Angel.Custodio3 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard a lot of friends rave about the 4. But I’m another lefty that has to wait lol. I wonder what bow will have the best draw this year?
@tylergrant-peters45633 жыл бұрын
Best bow reviews on KZfaq. How would you compare the draw on 28 inches compared to an EVO NXT 33?
@InsideOutPrecision3 жыл бұрын
Pretty similar. Definitely a smooth draw! Thanks for kind words
@tylergrant-peters45633 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision thanks for the reviews. I'm a 28 inch draw so I always go straight to your videos. Unfortunately there's no prime dealer in my state so I can't get the feel for one. I had an evo 33 and it was unbelievably smooth I thought.
@levans733 жыл бұрын
When you doing the Mathews atlas?
@tjblackforest693 жыл бұрын
"Oh gosh!" ... so funny ;-) cool video, thanks
@randallcrenshaw38712 жыл бұрын
Prime are solid bows, but I find it funny all it the “technology” that goes in to the bows. I robinhood as many arrows with my old pse stinger as I do with my Mathews no cam and my elite hunter , my bear status , more than my obsession and more than my diamond they are all top notch nowadays shoot what you like
@joshuaellingson39053 жыл бұрын
Love the channel! Think this might be the the bow for me this year. I have 31” DL, any tips for making that work with this bow besides just longer d loop?
@josephtreadlightly56863 жыл бұрын
Hey Joshua, I found when I setup my Centergy that it is all about your anchor point. A forgiving d-loop that is of better quality material is needed. Order some BCY braided spectra loop rope #23. I ordered mine from Lancaster & u don't have to buy a whole spool. U can order it by the feet. It is 1.6mm & tougher as well as being more forgiving. I found while saddle hunting last year that I was able to draw & anchor much better by using a d-loop that was 7/8" to 1 1/16" on my other bow that had no draw length adjustment on the cam & it was short with the standard & stiff polyester d-loop material. To every advantage is a setback which means it is a little tougher to melt the ball on each end of the d-loop. That is why bowshops don't do it cuz of the volume they have to put out b4 the season. During the off-season they should be able to help u out if they have good techs. I was able to get over the hump with the learning curve @ home. The pro-archers out there have been using this for a while & they shoot alot more daily than most of us. It saved me along with a nice set of Easton d-loop pliers. I 1st got my centershot on the string the way I wanted it. Then with that longer loop I went a little higher & lower than the arrow that was nocked on my string so the longer d-loop didn't have as much pinch on my release. Then after getting the d-loop on the string I re-enforced it with some BCY .008 serving that I wrapped with 1 piece on the top above & below & I did the same with another piece on the bottom of the d-loop. It is rock solid & forgiving & won't need to be replaced until I need a new string. This isn't as tough as it seems but u can make it tough by thinking that a bowshop has this & is willing to do it for u in August or September. 1 thing I have learned during the pandemic is that u need to prepare months ahead to achieve the results u r looking for. Good luck.
@Stayseated800853 жыл бұрын
Hurting my shoulder watching you draw that thang
@stasiekspasiek72503 жыл бұрын
Its way under IBO. 306fps/28" is close to 380gr arrow, not 360gr ( 315fps for that)
@Buran013 жыл бұрын
Well, the Mathews Atlas which is rated 350 IBO "at 34" dl" is in reality ~308 IBO at 30" dl with 85% let off and ~312 IBO at 30" with 80% let off. The brand which was more honest with their IBO rating was PSE last year (this one they returned to the usual bs). To be honest: don't bother with IBO; speeds are (have been) the same for years and the only way to produce more speed is either making the power stroke larger (but dl is a limiting factor based on the wingspan of the archer) reducing the bh or making a bow with a really harsh draw cycle which most wouldn't want to use.
@davidflippo48603 жыл бұрын
Great video, you typically have to shim 1 large for left cam top and bottom, then 1 small for top and bottom right side? Love the way my prime shoots, but there is a tail right tear I cannot get rid of
@davidruth13 жыл бұрын
Have you tried shimming all the way right?
@tylercarder5813 жыл бұрын
I laugh everytime you pull those bows right handed. 😂 You do better than I would if I tried to shoot it left handed. 😂😂 Piece of advice you can shoot a right handed bow left handed. Ted nugent does it all the time. Love the vids!
@josephtreadlightly56863 жыл бұрын
I'm most interested on the reports that people took the cable guard off to quiet it down. Isn't that Prime cable guard put on there for tuning? If so what cable guard r they replacing it with? I have a Centergy which is very quiet, even quieter than my CT-5. Is my Conquest Archery Control Freak stabilizer just that good?
@ConnahJay3 жыл бұрын
Nice one guys
@bobby3983 жыл бұрын
How would you compare this to the Mathews VXR? I’m very very interested in this bow
@keefer883 жыл бұрын
Does it have the horrible vibe and hand shock that the logic CT series has?
@chancemasterson69023 жыл бұрын
Are you going to do a video on the Hoyt ventum 33 and rx5
@brockpeck70733 жыл бұрын
When a bow has a large range in draw lengths. Doesnt that take away from the speed and poundage on a shorter draw length guy??
@Buran013 жыл бұрын
The # are the same, but since youre shortening the power stroke (the travel of the arrow from the wall to the point in which the nock leaves the string) the speed and kinetic energy is reduced. But the draw cycle becomes usually smoother.
@davidfleer53073 жыл бұрын
Is that 360 grain arrow safe to shoot at 70 pounds, got me a black 9 in May and love it at full draw but still playing with the let off because it seems to change the draw length for me 👍✌🏻🇺🇸
@saulgood61903 жыл бұрын
5 grains per lb of draw weight is normally the lowest that's recommended. At 70lbs, that would be 350grains.
@dezmondkrause23293 жыл бұрын
I'm getting pissed off i order my nexus 4 when shops got the two , i got mine grizzly brown with 80lb fusion limbs and thats exactly what prime sent out to everybody for their display bow ... So much for having a kinda unique setup
@InsideOutPrecision3 жыл бұрын
Haha. Well at least the ones they send out are only 70lb
@dezmondkrause23293 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision kinda sad that 80 is all that got me separated from the pack
@dougcampbell8653 жыл бұрын
In the video where he got 298 FPS did he state what the let off was? If it was 65% and you are shooting 85% that could explain the disparity....
@hamartime173 жыл бұрын
Usually 80%. I’m just about positive.
@jerryweatherman74683 жыл бұрын
Not sure why one would want a bow that straight out of the box needs to be shimmed ?
@suffs47303 жыл бұрын
Every bow after a few shots is going to have some string stretch and require a little bit of tuning. The only way to negate that is putting GAS strings on right when you get the bow. The shim problem on primes really isn’t that big of a deal, especially for how nice they shoot, and i’m saying that while not even shooting a prime. I shoot a Hoyt...
@jerryweatherman74683 жыл бұрын
What I was referring to was , if practically all the new Prime bows need shimmed.....why doesn't Prime get the bows closer to spot on BEFORE they ship them to their Pro shops. I've worked in local Pro shops since the 1980's . I do agree that Prime has came a LONG WAY since we first started getting them in.
@jerryweatherman74683 жыл бұрын
I'm aware how tuning works....and I agree with the Matthews and Hoyt thing.
@jerryweatherman74683 жыл бұрын
The point I was making obviously went over your head. The point was , if practically all Prime bows need shimmed from the factory....why doesn't Prime just go ahead and do it before they ship them out. No need to get butt sore over it.
@jerryweatherman74683 жыл бұрын
I agree that ALL bows need to be tuned to each individual....but not ALL bows need to be shimmed right out of the box. You obviously got butt sore and wanted to argue and I'm not into that....so your right....I'm WRONG. Are you happy now Rusty !!! END of conversation 🙄
@chrisutech36763 жыл бұрын
I willing to bet if you put the chronograph in a room with more light you will see different speeds.
@InsideOutPrecision3 жыл бұрын
I've heard that before, but I thought thats what the lights on the chronograph were for.
@chrisutech36763 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision I have the same chronograph, and when I move outside (on a sunny day) I typically see an increase of 5-8fps. Try it and let me know.
@InsideOutPrecision3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisutech3676 good to know!!
@bobalotb67603 жыл бұрын
That arrow low FOC? Tighter nock?
@Akeela.43 жыл бұрын
I dont recall you ever shooting lefty through the chrono. Do you guys just not get left handed bows in at the same time. Or do you just shoot through the chrono right because most people are right handed?
@InsideOutPrecision3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the first order is always right handed bows. The lefties are usually 3-4 weeks after, but I want to get the review up asap
@Akeela.43 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision well the internet appreciates the speedy reviews!
@wilsonclint423 жыл бұрын
Do you just shim your top cam?
@InsideOutPrecision3 жыл бұрын
Both if necessary
@drewanderson5023 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to decide between a Prime Nexus 4 or a new Hoyt Ventum 33; any recommendations? I can’t shoot them back to back to compare because it’s two different shops that have them. I’m a 29.5” draw and usually pull 70#, I hunt up north so the insulated grip would be great for cold sits but it’s not a deal breaker to have a cold hand with the Ventum 33 if it shoots better than the Nexus.
@leelathrop95393 жыл бұрын
How often do people hold onto their bows where the grip material is gonnn make a difference? I hunt in Wisconsin and have never had a issue with a aluminum bow and it’s grip. I shot the Ventum33 and it’s awesome. I haven’t shot the prime and don’t plan on it as there are no dealers close to me. Another thing you should consider is resale. If you get a new bow every couple years. You’ll pretty much have to give the prime away. The Hoyt will have a much better resale.
@trentyackey10553 жыл бұрын
Athens bows
@InsideOutPrecision3 жыл бұрын
What about them?
@AA-mk4pu3 жыл бұрын
How’s the hand shock and after the shot vibration compared to the N2 on this bow? The n2 I shot had obnoxious vibration.
@dezmondkrause23293 жыл бұрын
Its non existent I thought the 2 had a lot of vibration As well but as soon as our shop got a 4 in I went and shot it and im not going say its matthews dead in hand but is real close for being a bare bow
@AA-mk4pu3 жыл бұрын
@@dezmondkrause2329 perfect, thanks
@saulgood61903 жыл бұрын
There is still some on the N4 but better that the 2's imo.
@MegaElkaholic3 жыл бұрын
Pulling to much weight drop 5 lb youl shoot better ,most people shoot bows to heavy in weight.