Doesn't always listen when someone say he can't go on either.🤣

Yes indeed he deserves all respect.

I love and root for the guy but these crashes! An absolutely splendid attack squandered due to...what exactly? Fatigue induced inattentiveness in close quarters? Lack of focus? Yes, he's a powerhouse; he's a tough mofo; he's exciting to watch. But his crashes happen too regularly, without due cause, to be attributed to bad luck. His are the kinds of mistakes that separate champions from also rans.

can you even try to imagine a demon child cross of Roglic and Soler? the rest of the human race might as well just stick to crawling! hahahahaha

It was a dumb move.

He just did the most insane pull and crashed, I bet he was toast. Feel bad for him.

@@TheLadeef KARMA HAHA

Yeah, poor bike handling skills, the ways he keeps crashing, it's hard to look at.

He has quit the race

@@matieking 😞

Wright will win a stage as soon as all English language cycling media stop expecting him to be a top pick for any given stage he's suited for. It's the media trying to will him to victory that is cosmically blocking him from succeeding. It will come if they let it 🤐

My boii Freddy so close everytime ffs

Roglic continues to be plagued by poor bike handling skills and situational awareness.

Respect for Remco too for fighting and not giving up on the stage he crash. We can all agree he puts an excellent show as well.

@@realmagnetics799 was going to say the same

Alaphilippe too. These guys struggle with bike handling.

Source ??

and you were right

And you were right as Clive Ellis said. It was a heavy fall. Shame for the fans because the race for the red jersey is all but over now. Maybe it was a sign of desperation from Primoz as he could have waited for a big attack in the mountains.

I have never felt so bad for a rider ever. And finally now when he was in such a good shape!

Genuinely heartbreaking moment !

He needs to use his brain a bit more. That’s not something worth pushing and potentially crashing for; the time gained wouldn’t be worth it.

He has definitely been unlucky, but this crash was his fault, and his alone.

@@keirfarnum6811 99 times out of a hundred you don’t crash there , bizarre incident really.

Mas is still there and so far he's looked like the biggest threat in the mountains.

@@alexwyffels9788 Rog was getting better and better. Even with Lopez and Mas attacking 10km out, they only gained 10-15s on Primoz (stage 15). But to gap GC riders on a flat stage with sprint trains giving them a draft, that is insane!

Roglic fucked himself… like nearly always when he goes „no risk no glory“

@@gettysb19 oh yeah definitely, just don't think its fair to completely write Mas off already. Roglic was the biggest threat imo but Evenepoel still needs to be on it if he wants to win the Vuelta even if Roglic leaves the race.

@@alexwyffels9788 i agree but things are looking good for remco as he did very well in the queen stage.. so he may as well survive the last stages and with roglic probably gone the excitement is gone too :(

Exactly this.

You know his Bike has been checked by officials and uci

From his interview it sounded like he initially slid back purely because he was nervous about the surface being slippery...

@@JSBax and he also said he intended to move up on the bump where Roglic attacked. It would honestly be delusional to believe that, without equipment problems, he would not be able to move up to the front of the chasing group, definitely with Roglic lighting up the front and stringing out the peloton. Roglic attacking would make Remco moving up easier, as the peloton forms almost a straight line, and the stronger riders don't have to wiggle themselves in between others. Obviously, reaching that front, who knows whether he would have been able to cross still? That would be an out of this world effort, and in a 3rd week, those are on short supply... He probably would have led the chase, but the impact of that on a full-send Roglic attack could be pretty minimal. He probably would have lost more or less the 8s he would has right now. Just too bad Roglic fell :( :(

kzfaq.infomH6tKuLt9kM?feature=share "Flat"

Well I for one a soon as he crashed I was like "what's everyone whinging about, Roglic just used the 3km rule to save his stage too". Though it seems a bit rich if Remco gets the 8 sec group 's time, esp given by his own admission had gotten way out of position already purely because he was nervous about the surface. I don't know what people think Remco would have been thinking to fake the mechanical, given his position and the risk of getting a later group's time, vs his ability to close back to a forward group... But I dunno maybe they don't award the times like that.

Indeed, remembering Schleck broken wheelchain in Mont-Ventoux, we can't help but feeling something is odd about whether Roglic fall is deemed more important than Evenepoel puncture. Hope Vuelta not over like that. I'm Belgian

8 seconds isn't going to win him the race, though. It was a silly risk from the start and even more silly to try to go back into the sprint pack after pulling over (knowing he was going to get dusted). He shouldn't have been up there with them anyway. Unsporting to try to take time out of his rival because of a mechanical.

@@patpat8727 The attack had already started way before Remco's mechanical. The unwritten rule doesn't apply. If Remco had stayed with Rog, then it would have been different.

@@AnttiBrax false

Definitely felt it before 3k

100% yes

💯 and that is taking some extra interpretation, somewhat cheating, way of looking at the 3km rule.

@@MichaelBoogerd No? If youre still in the pack at 3KM its not cheating. What kind of fool would stop at 5KM and lose the vuelta by doing so?

@@YRollets But that logic goes the other way too -- If he was able to stay in the peloton from 5k to 3k, then does it even count as a mechanical? Can he just pull up and say I'm ready to coast now? A mechanical should only count if you can't stay with the peloton... if you had it at 5km and chose not to change the wheel, you keep it until the end -- obviously with speeds increasing, Remco was not going to be able to.

I remember people casting aspersions on Hindley at that stage in the Giro this year. Whatever side you are on I would hate to win because of something lame like a puncture at the end of a stage

Also, look at the riders in that peloton at 8 sec, the rest of the GC and the likes of Bakelands and many unknown riders on are in it. The rest of the riders who didn't finish in that peloton just didn't try to stay because it wasn't important for them. So, who would think that suddenly Evenpoel is so weak that he can not even stay in that group, and comes up with this crazy plan to fake a flat tire. If that where true he will be out of the top 10 anyway in a few days. The only reason I see is that they wrongly believe that Evenepoel would get the same time as Pedersen (and Roglic) without having to ride for it. But thats just ignorant.

Why am I not surprised about people throwing around conspiracy theories about a puncture?

Where are these pictures?

A commissary has to check the registered incident ,as it's called, that's the rules.

why should there be a 3km rule for non sprint stages? No sense at all and why was he given same time as 2nd group as there were several gaps. Remco was already out of position before stopping.

@@0ldw3lshm4n the UCI should of checked Remco’s equipment so close to the finish. The 3km rule is open to abuse. If he wins on Sunday, which I’m sure he will then it’ll be a farce.

Its rules lmao

@@0ldw3lshm4n Becasue his puncture was way before he stopped. Otherwise he would be in the wheel of Roglic ofcourse, what do you think?! Do you really think he couldn't follow ? LOL then you didn't follow the Vuelta or know who Remco is

@@Shitinthemorning actually it seems from your comment you did not watch the Vuelta. He said in interview he was nervous and was already out of position last few km.

Unfortunately Rogla pulled out, so no documentary :(

Thing is he also has to get the views and grab the attention of the potential audience

Why? The race is over anyhow

@@silvoslaf if you didnt have time to watch it is fun to watch it as a surprise

@Lennart I agree. I have blocked this channel for this reason and go search for it manually when I want to watch it. I understand why he does it, but I still don't think it's an excuse.

Look at his wheel when his hand is up... He didint had flats

Indeed, but some people will always complain (until their own favorites have benefits from such rules). There was another video where you could clearly see that the tire was punctured. And for Roglic, I hope he can start tomorrow without too much physical problems, but I'm afraid.

@@pijaczyna666 It's a slow puncture. He can't ride fast with that anymore and will slowly lose more and more air. It very clearly was a mechanical issue, I don't know what this nonsense is. Remco would take 15 seconds, he wouldn't risk getting three minutes. Also, if you think he wasn't able to follow today to only lose a couple of seconds either way, Roglic is going to take 10 minutes from him the next stages.

@@pijaczyna666 Footage from spectator mobile phones clearly shows the tire is flat. Only thing you can blame him for is waiting to raise his hand until he was within the final 3km, by as far as I know that's not against the rules.

Nah, without 3km rule one of Remco's team mates would have donated their bike. With the rule, team radio would have been "it's all good, no rush, you will get main peloton time." I too am a fan of the 3km rule just because if that happened anywhere else, he is getting back on.

Thank you for your sanity, preach!

Exactly!!!

Clearly it had been leaking a while - why would he have been so far back when Cavagna was drilling it? He was spending lots of energy just to stay in the peloton.

@@timothymburton Possibly, so well played.

Exact, who can think that Remco could not remain with Lopez, Ayuso or Mas in a sprint?

He was contesting or trying to contest for the bonus seconds

he wasn't trying to win or contest, he was looking to get on the last wheel to get towed to the line for same time. Don't think he knew Wright was there initially then he went bit too close to Wright and looks like Wrights left leg caught Roglic arm on the upstroke. Nothing to do with thinking straight just a bit f misjudgement when he was on the rivet

kzfaq.infomH6tKuLt9kM?feature=share "Flat"

Smart move if that is the case. And it seems plausible.

Except for days like today and riders like Roglic...

Yeah he probably went in shock for half a second. Imagine putting a big effort leaving you without energy then next thing you’re on the ground.

3km rule is fine if its a crash but mechanical no..... dont care if its a mass crash but not losing time cuz of a mechanical issue is bs next year perhaps its 5km u cant lose time imgaine tour de france when vingegaard was smashing tadej and he just stopped and said oh well i had a flat tirre in the last 3km no chance in hell he would get same time if this is what we are doing forward u might aswell in 50 years say all start with the same time and all end with same time utter bs and im not even a roglic fan.....

@@mcslayerdk the 3km doesn't apply on summit finishes, so your example is pointless.

He should have stayed on his own side of the road

@@onezweithree u missed my point.. i said moving forward in a few years i might be 5km etc im saying that if this develops fortier were gonna have a race in the future where all get same time i think its a bs rule most other sports u dont rule a goal out if your shoe untines etc its just bad luck...

@@mcslayerdk well I would say, that unless the UCI is planning on expanding the rule, that’s a pretty weak argument. 😅 I get what you are saying regarding the distinction between a crash and a mechanical though. My „concern“ would then be, what is keeping a rider with a mechanical in the last 3km from „faking“ a crash to avoid a time loss. Might be a Bit risky, but would still be possible (and look incredibly stupid 😅).

I have my questions on whether it's right to be given the same time as a group you weren't even in position for, when you could potentially have punctured outside the 3km mark, then rolled into the 3km to get help from the team car. Looked like he was pretty far back already by the time the camera switched to show him asking for the team car, which may well have been from rolling slowly into the first 3km due to already having punctured. If he did roll in some distance behind the group finishing after Roglic, 8 seconds is a bit too generous.

Check videos.....he flatted much further out......then held on and claimed mechanical inside 3km.....this is Cheating. Likely advised to limit his losses with this loophole! Brutal

You can see it in his face during the interview that he knew he actually screwed up but saved by some loopholes and clever thinking, rather than fighting it out fair and square! He might even had a puncture but definetely way before the 3K line, he lost his position around 7-8K to go probably because of that puncture but of course he showed the hand right after crossing the 3K line. It is what it is and rules are rules but it is really repulsive and unsympathetic stuff...

@@johngillis7625 if it’s a loophole, it ain’t cheating. Doing it differently (changing bikes just before the 3K banner) would have been incredibly stupid.

@@l.d.t.6327 which idiot would give up a grand tour win to stand off ur bike 100 meters away from the the safe zone -_-

Roglic himself chose to attack and got 8 seconds for it - that was his choice. If you want to make a comparison, then compare Remco to Mas who just chilled with the peloton. Sure Remco saved a little energy compared to Mas, but it probably doesn't make any significant difference between the two.

You think team radio wouldn't have told him "Remco has punctured so time gain will be minimal?" They get TVs in their cars and see what we see...

Remco carried him on the mountain few days back tho

that was Roglic's choice. He could have cruised into the finish and taken same time.

@@patpat8727 actually he couldn't have. If he rode as easily as remco by choice he would have lost 3 minutes.

Couldn't agree more to both points. Completely unnecessary move in the final by Pog, need to keep the 3km rule to prevent really unfortunate and extremely lame endings to races.

Agree with all. Foolish from Roglic really to even do all that work for 7-8 seconds, let alone to try to sprint with the sprinters.

But honestly it makes stages where someone can just sit up for the final 3km and not even race. Remco didn't even ride hard at all after that when everyone else is racing. How is that fair? Actually race favorites shouldn't be in a position too far back to get caught up in crashes. I'd say if there is a crash within 1km during the final sprint that is different, but 3km for crashes and mechanical issues is too much.

@@fallingday6442 Disagree, you need to allow the affected rider a fair chance to try to get back to the group where he was riding. This is simply not possible in the hectic of the final 3 kilometers. Waiting for the team car, getting a new bike, starting from a standstill... Remco didn't ride hard because an official on motorbike told him the 3km rule would apply. I think it's much fairer to prevent someone from losing a 3 week grand tour due to a mechanical, than riding slower for 2.5k compared to the other riders.

@@fallingday6442 you can't just sit up. It only applies if you crash or mechanical. If you sit up and the bunch gaps you then you lose time like any other stage

I prefer the system thats in place rn. Yes it does punish people like Roglic today but if Evenepoel lost more time due to a badly timed puncture in a sprint stage than he gained over any of the previous stages including the 30km ITT then that wouldn't feel good either.

@@alexwyffels9788 With a 3 KM rule in place only for crashes, all the jersey wearer needs is for a teammate to stay with him and swap bikes in case of a mechanical in the final 3 km. Minimal, if any, time would be lost by the jersey wearer.

There is no way to make up lost time due to a mechanical in the last km's, the speed at that moment is too high and there is too little distance left to make up time even if you are going faster than the riders upfront. Now, they could maybe say that rider needs to maintain a minimal speed after the incident if uninjured, with the minimal speed being in relation to the speed of the group they were in, something like 80% or so. Any lower speed would get you placed in a group with the correct speed.

@@LovetheIPAs I think you underestimate the speeds in the final of a sprint stage.

@@LovetheIPAs say the swap takes 20s. Assuming the leaders are doing 60kph, that is 3 minutes to cover 3km. Nobody would even be able to come close to the speed of the leadout train, let alone make up 20s in 2:40 of riding. You can quibble about the numbers 60 kph and 20s but it won't change the bottom line.

He's got a bad case of the Richie Portes. Or Geraint-itis.

@@winstoncat6785 Apart from Geraint completed a Tour de France with a broken pelvis

@@simonyj yes. But the problem wasn't his bravery. Ditto RP. The problem was the frequency with which he crashed and injured himself seriously. A few weren't his fault and would slmost be comical if not so unlucky and sad - Giro d'Italia water bottle at start for instance.

Equally. Simon Yates is alarmingly susceptible to any illness around on a 3 week race.

but it was

They might use sponge tire inserts since they go tubeless now.

@@sinankececi4041 Tubeless can lose 50% of the air and reseal and still look inflated. The rider has now become uncompetitive and with the power these guys have its easy to roll the tyre off the wheel or break the bead and spin the rim. No choice but to slow down.

Google it and look at the photo. The end.

Yeah bro, that tire looked pretty good when he had his hand up.

I cant see it as well.

Lol. Even here conspiracy theories. And here too facts and evidence don't seem to matter.

@@P4P5 do you want to see it? Besides, if you have ever ridden a bike you should know that if you have a small puncture the tire will not be completely flat, but flaccid enough to not be able to ride properly.

I am not saying I know everything, but as a long time criterium rider, i couldnt believe when Roglic started drifting in towards the sprinters. Of course they are going to start moving out just before the finish. I dont think its excused by being exhausted as he looked fully in control of the move and deliberate. It was just a rookie mistake when all he needed to do was cruise to the end. He had already dropped all his rivals.

If you are flat, it's a decision of your own if you stop or not. He could even have gone straight to the end even on a flat one. What is really unfair is that Primoz is passing the line minutes behind Evenepoel en even is getting a boni of eight seconds for what was a very big error of his own. A time penalty for Roglic for dangerous behave would have been more obvious. That's not why the 3k rule is made. This rule is made as a protection for victims, not for the perpetrator ...

We'll never know and doesn't really matter, he called for help within the 3km, thus falls under the 3km rule and gets the time of the group he was in on passing the 3km

you mean as he continued to lose air and fell back through the peloton over the course of some 2 km?

Why finish. Give him a rest.

Probably much closer to the 3km mark. Felt it happening, goes on and when he is within the 3km raises his hand.

You don't instantly feel a puncture, its not like a balloon lol

@@user-eu6sj2gj1t I have had them all. Those that instantly lose all air, big rupture. Those that take a kilometer or 2 before you feel that something is off.

@@shaddapforever Yah I've had both, but all mine aren't with the context of getting a certain distance so my time in a race is the same as a group I'm riding with, or that have the potential of putting me minutes behind my rivals. It's a clever move if he felt it then rode on it for a while to make that marker

4:37 Where is the puncture? I don't see it.

Complete BS, how do you follow a bunch at 60 km/h during 4 km ? You must not be cycling very often to say that

He needed to stay with them to get the same time as Pedersen.

There's no point in him doing that. By stopping for a bike change, even if he didn't have a puncture, he's losing time to Roglic and he would know that. If he had ridden on with the bunch, he would have lost the same time to Roglic, so there's no reason for him to fake a flat. I think a lot of people are using the TV footage to determine if the tyre was flat or not which is pretty stupid given that it's highly likely that they themselves have experienced many different punctures themselves and should know that a slow leak can definitely be felt before it's seen. And if you're riding up a hill at pro race speed, you're going to know.

Baffling application of ridiculous rules.

Somebody posted a movie on twitter where you can clearly see the flat. The incident was verified by a motor bike steward and subsequently acknowledged by the Vuelta race organisation. Speculations are irrelevant here. I don't believe them to be true. There are also reverse speculations, that Roglic saw Evenepoel in trouble and started attacking, I also think that's nonsense.

Regardless if the 3km rule is actually helpful or not you are making some pretty significant accusations here that you should not just throw around. In such cases the bike is checked by UCI officials, obviously everything was fine otherwise we would have heard already.

@@Alex-bi8ob Yet from the video you can clearly see that both his tyres are fully inflated. So it is not a punture, not a broken or dropped chain. It is either something with shifting or too smart of a tactics. The rule is ridiculous anyway.

No, it's not possible.

Yeah, every stage race there are a lot of punctures and mechanicals in the last 3K. Can't help to think that teams let riders just ride on to the 3K banner if something happens in the last 10 because there's just not enough time and space to swap bikes anymore.

Agreed. Roglic bounced off that sprinter like he was a fly. Ride with the bulls, you may get the horns.....

@@climbslc2281 Yeah, exactly. Roglič was brave as hell, I wish he gained time for the sake of the race, but shit happens in cycling. Remco got the puncture today, crashed himself just a day before the stage where Rog gained 48+4 seconds, but only now am I apparently supposed to be disappointed. Both riders have now crashed, but suddenly the tone has shifted. I don't like the inconsistencies tbf

Just watching sports , that is what we are doing .... oh and living vicariously through others

Race officials check the equipment in detail...

Was flat, a slow puncture, he tryed to play it smart,the puncture maybe happend already 5km before the finnsih, couldn't accelerate or stay in the wheel of the first riders either way with 3 bar left. He told that he slipped a bit in a corner then he realized he had a puncture. Tryed to stay front peleton, but final climb it exploded and couldn't follow caused by flat tyre,..

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"As a gc rider it is not safe to go full speed into sprints" Roglic is a GC rider, so yeah...point proven here. Roglic made a poor decision that cost him dearly. Actually he probably made multiple poor decisions, and the first one was unsporting as well.

I actually think he punctured at 5K, smart boy

@@endautrestermes Unless they change the ruling on what activates it, they can't do much since they are guessing a sprint stage will have a crash/GC being active during it.

He punctured and drifted back from the peloton, sadly unable to limp over the 3K line. Reports from Spanish media are unclear as to whether he even made the time cut...🧹

you mean the fatique of this weekend which were due to Remco's crash right? remco was the better climber on Sunday, while still hurting due to the crash.

Crashing doesn't signal fatigue too?

@@RaZuA1989 Rog can crash anytime.

Disagree, Remco was only weaker than Roglic on saturday so far and that was 2 days after his crash when he clearly was suffering from that injury. Every other time he either was as good or better than Roglic this vuelta and today says nothing. What it Remco from his bad position still makes it to the front of the GC group without the puncture, it would show him to be clearly the stronger one, now he didn't even get to try it.

@@RaZuA1989 it definitely did today. Tired minds make poor, rash decisions.

Physicians often claim teams don't have riders interest first, most of the time it's bull. I trust Roglic can not be forced to ride if he thinks it's not healthy for him, period.

@@MarvinWestmaas agree, physicians are physicians. They look from that viewpoint not looking for the interest of the riders who themselves are interested to push it to the limit.

@@MarvinWestmaas he has a light to moderate concussion. He should quit. I dont want him to die in that heat...

@@MarvinWestmaas I mean, if I were in his place I'd certainly also want to continue. Even with much worse injuries. It makes total sense to want to keep going. I think the point was just that it isn't always the healthy thing to do. If it was solely up to Roglic then I am also 100% sure he'll be at the start tomorrow, but for his sake I hope he listens to his doctors too.

@@jorenbaplu5100 I believe that the Grand Tour staff/organization doctor must clear a rider to continue on after a crash of that magnitude, by THEIR OWN ORGANIZATION'S RULES, no??

GC is often still decided by crashes and punctures?

He woud had a 1 min gap roglič if it wasnt fo the 3km rule

You went a little too far with that suggestion about Remco attacking in the last kms. Not his finish and he knew that.

​@@dzidziolus " i was going for a stage win today" - remco evenepoel

@@dzidziolus remco was so out of position he woud of lost so mich time ande didnt have the legs so he woud of lost so much time to roglic so he yust said he head a mechanical but we all know he didnt

But it's aimed at letting sprinters do their thing without risking the other contests... its like a sticky plaster over several Jersey competitions

@@AuroDHikoshi Yea in a classic sprint stage I agree, but with a steep hill at 2km to go this is not a classic sprint stage

I agree with your take, but i think nobody thought that we would see attacks from a gc rider today…, if roglic hadn‘t attacted no one would have probably cared…

@@yannickmeier1089 absolutely everybody new roglic will attack. Even Remco said so

@@mstrclay ok then i have just missed it…

Surely he did know. They have radios.

@@patpat8727 In the last 250m he would not be listening to his radio

3k is just applied to any flat finishes... no condition what the stage is like

Yeah the puncture was checked. IMO the tire slowly lost its pressure and Remco was falling back and made some effort to stay in the peleton untill the 3km and wouldn't that be what we all would do. Like it's just stupid to stop right in front of the 3km if you still manage to get over the mark with half flat tire

Couple of replies: - Yes it gets checked and Evenepoel's puncture was recognized as such by the jury. - Roglic clearly deserved the bonus seconds. Same rule applies as to Evenepoel. Very sad to see him leave the race. He would have made this week very interesting. - Evenepoel could have easily made it to the first peloton without mechanical, even if he came from a disadvantaged position. The slower groups of the peloton were clearly with riders without GC or stage win ambitions, who didn't even attempt to follow.

Nothing except that the race profiles are decided beforehand. So you'd have to be able to time your off days perfectly with the sprinting schedule. Christ man, this is pro cycling. The rule is there for safety and it worked. Look at Roglic. Mas would be in the red if the rule didn't apply, not Roglic.

There is no need to fake a darn thing within the last 3kms. It does not matter. One can ride at 5kmh and get the same time.

Without the 3k rule Remco would've also lost time.

That gets into technicals about where you end up stopping and bikes aren't reporting data that way ...

Wgat do you mean "without the 3k rule Rogla would have lost time"? Did you see when Roglic crossed the line and Evenepoel did??

@@mrdondos9830 Roglic came in after the group with Mas. He would have lost time on Mas.

But from say 5 to 2,7 or so km he was be able to follow with that flat tire: that also is easier said then done, certainly if the tire is really flat. It probably went flatter and flatter and the extra weight on backwheel when it goes uphill (that is where he stopped) was maybe the point that he noticed / couldn't continue. I think the current decision was following the 3k rules enough. Otherwise it will be difficult to check.

No, it's also a fair play rule.

@@Medikto I don't think it originated as a fairplay rule, even though I like it because it kind of has that effect. Also, some mechanicals, flats definitely one of them, being covered still offer a safety benefit: riders can still cover some distance on a (almost) flat. People who cycle, know. It just makes it harder AND more slippery. It's the last part that gives mechanicals like that being covered a safety aspect. Sure, you're a lot less stable continuing on a slow-flat, but who's not going to take that risk when it would otherwise ruin your GC? The three km rule changes that risk equation.

Then you'd just get a mad rush for the 3k line and a bunch more competition in the lead up.

@@Medikto pogacar finished the cobble stage of the tdf with a flat tire, watch the highlights.

@@Queen-be6md and ?

and its not fair not only to Primož but to Mas as well and other GS riders, who drove full gas til the end,... only Remco crusing around like on family trip and getting the same time like others... not fair to all the bunch of them in GS competition - especially the close rivals like Primož and Enric.

@@barbarap9452 yep. As commentators said you always keep riding on a tyre until your car can get to you, inside 3km or not Except of course, if you are finding it hard to stay with the group that you want to take the same time as. Evenepoel was slipping backwards so it's better to step off the bike as soon as you can within 3km in that case, better that than keep riding and be dropped from the group and step off losing more time

I doubt this 4 minute effort would have really impacted riders legs in the next stages, it wasn't really going that hard if your have 3 sprinters making it onto the podium, the other GC riders more likely knew he'd only take a few seconds, so just kept it close, but not went bonkers either.

@@MDP1702 explain why Remco was going backwards inside 5km, even his own team mates looked around at 4.5km and had to drop back. Roglic would have taken more than 8 seconds. You think the 2 relative efforts in last km's wouldn't of had an effect. Fred Wright said he was doing everything he could do just to sit 5th wheel behind Primoz who didn't even ask for a turn

@@pantster9855 Several possible reasons: not feeling safe on these roads, not wanting to get caught in chaos, ... Obviously it is very likely the tire already started deflate, but that only means he had to spend the effort of riding on a flattish tire at high speed to remain in the bunch untill after 3rd km point. Fred Wright isn't exactly GC rider, neither in climbing performance nor in terms of the TT performance a rider like Roglic can do, it wouldn't be abnormal for him to be at his limit here. Anyway, the rule is the rule. I do think it needs to be changed so a rider still needs to keep riding a decent pace after the incident, but that isn't the case now and wasn't the case when it was Pogacar in the TdF and Hindley in the Giro. And I said it wouldn't have a meaningfull effect tomorrow and in the stages afterwards. If it makes the difference, it would have been stupid of Roglic to then try something now.

Actually, rog must have worse luck than g now

your bike is not his bike

agreed, totally rideable, since he is riding it, and was 'super happy for the 3k rule' ...

I know who does lol

@@ernie12man your idea of rideable and a professional cyclist's idea are more than likely very different. Not to mention that his fellow competitors wouldn't want him around them on a tire leaking air either. Disaster waiting to happen at that point.

All these responses that the flat was fake. *The motive doesn't make sense.* This would mean that Evenepoel thought he couldn't keep up with the main peloton as that is time you get with the 3 km rule: that's why *he lost 8 seconds* ;instead risk losing 3 minutes as a commissary has to check these incidents.

It's not good just for the GC riders, it's less ppl involved in the finals km of a stage so less risks for everybody.

Agree but if you consider that none of his team mates (maybe with the exception of Harper) are delivering as much as expected.. He's doing everything by himself.

Every second counts in Elite sport.

@@TheVintagedudee not really. 8 seconds today wasn't going to win him the vuelta. Just silly.

It wasn't good to see. I thought it was unsporting to try to take advantage of a mechanical in that way, and stupid considering you know the 3k rule as well as anyone else. And then beyond stupid to race the sprinters. Vingegaard would never have been dumb enough to even attempt such a thing, or unsporting enough. He would have cruised into the finish on the same time as Remco and called it a day, expecting that he would win on stage 20.