Pritam, Indranee spar over HDB development cost breakdown and BTO flat subsidy details

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The Straits Times

The Straits Times

Жыл бұрын

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Leader of the Opposition Pritam Singh and Second Minister for Finance and National Development Indranee Rajah on Monday sparred over the development costs of new Housing Board flats and details of subsidies provided to buyers, with the minister saying it was not meaningful to provide such information as affordability is what matters to Singaporeans. READ MORE: str.sg/wjRd
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@hatchegg80
@hatchegg80 Жыл бұрын
When you listen to pritam's question, it's such a well structured question. Something the newspapers do not report. Deserves much better than a dead fish answer. When you consider Singh is being persecuted for whatever, be impressed how polite he is in asking the question
@ivychua4091
@ivychua4091 Жыл бұрын
Pritam Singh 💙
@leechengho2821
@leechengho2821 Жыл бұрын
Yes you're truly correct, even if he 'kena' hammer left or right during d Parliament's sitting, he still kept his cool.
@leechengho2821
@leechengho2821 Жыл бұрын
@@ivychua4091 Just to bad this Indra Lady is no match for PS, so as to speak.
@yut576
@yut576 Жыл бұрын
this is the reason why we need opposition in parliament, to keep the government honest and accountable and to justify their policies.
@limlisa
@limlisa Жыл бұрын
Don't think so
@t3chwali598
@t3chwali598 Жыл бұрын
@@limlisa that's right... you never do.
@ImranKhan-vw2wx
@ImranKhan-vw2wx Жыл бұрын
Lisa Lim, why not?
@SimonK3113
@SimonK3113 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes no amount of barking can bring forth integrity in information share with public if mindset is not a Gov for the people but a Gov of the people. In short," I say, you follow. I needn't have to explain, just trust our judgement."
@hengjessica5930
@hengjessica5930 Жыл бұрын
Well said ! 👍
@TopGun848
@TopGun848 Жыл бұрын
Good to see Somebody stood up for Singaporeans.
@shakthiivel8832
@shakthiivel8832 Жыл бұрын
Indranee doesn’t have an answer for Mr Pritam’s questions. It is so obvious and cheers to Mr Singh for bringing up the topic of housing , fighting for our future
@DESLCP
@DESLCP Жыл бұрын
Because she don't know what is going on?
@dandanakka23
@dandanakka23 Жыл бұрын
Yes Looks like she is not confident enough to answer.
@huatgary3019
@huatgary3019 Жыл бұрын
Oh dear! She seems so lost.
@kelvincheng5901
@kelvincheng5901 Жыл бұрын
i think she was taken by surprise..she probably needs to convene a meeting with the relevant dept
@deltacharlie2011
@deltacharlie2011 Жыл бұрын
Definitely she doesn't have the answer. SO the best option is to sweep it away without answering
@chenghonggoh4746
@chenghonggoh4746 Жыл бұрын
Pritam Singh asked a simple question lots of Singaporeans are interested in. Not sure why an answer can't be answered in a straight forward manner which we can understand.
@liphinlaw3850
@liphinlaw3850 Жыл бұрын
When Pritam become PM (“ if only if “) he may not able to answer the question he ask today..Agree ? 🙂
@chenghonggoh4746
@chenghonggoh4746 Жыл бұрын
@@liphinlaw3850 LOL. Think you may not know what you are asking.
@liphinlaw3850
@liphinlaw3850 Жыл бұрын
@@chenghonggoh4746 why concern about me? 🙂 I am not in the PM position. You should concern about him if WP accidentally become ruling party one day, will him able to cope about the question he is asking today? 🙂
@chenghonggoh4746
@chenghonggoh4746 Жыл бұрын
@@liphinlaw3850 LOL. Think you do not know what you are asking. How would you know he may not be able to answer the question he asked today?
@liphinlaw3850
@liphinlaw3850 Жыл бұрын
@@chenghonggoh4746 You are right... I don't know also 🙂. So let time to prove I am wrong ... although most of my prediction happened, like Malaysia PH government really stepped down during 2020. Also I did predict China leader become further dictatorship, China citizen will suffer under his governing during 2021 May. See now is really happen. Therefore, I will like to see if they successful replace current government what will Singapore future should be ? 🙂 Will all of Singaporean need to go to Malaysia works as general worker like Nicholas from DAP said ? 🙂 Think about it 😉
@bensgoodeats1493
@bensgoodeats1493 Жыл бұрын
Pritam asked a valid question which also has been on my mind . What is the development cost for flats ?
@thatone8085
@thatone8085 Жыл бұрын
We need black and white just like cars and motorbikes COE.
@gabrielclarence5390
@gabrielclarence5390 Жыл бұрын
No answer from Indranee...... well done Mr Pritam, we need more people like you!
@scbchong6964
@scbchong6964 Жыл бұрын
So you are ready to kiss and lick Pritam's arse so that he won't confiscate your property and give to his loyal cadres? All those who are asking actually not working yet or never buy property before lah. They want to stir and make up amusements and gossip. And Pritam is going through motion to appease and pander to the worst of his supporters. You think Pritam wants his family's HDB flats to crash in value or his own private property to dump?
@mathewlovegod
@mathewlovegod Жыл бұрын
Next GE, give WP a chance to be govt!
@brandonong5297
@brandonong5297 Жыл бұрын
We would appreciate if HDB can just answer Mr Pritam question.... Give us the breakdown of costs.... Simple as that.
@whatnow8829
@whatnow8829 Жыл бұрын
Ok people. Think. In Taiwan or any other democratic country, you buy a piece of land it's yours for keeps. HDB built hundreds of apartments on the same plot of land where we live like chicken coops. So if the land plus whole block cost $1m, it's already well spread out and paid back many times over. Becos hundreds of families are living on top of one another. Secondly, after the 99 year term, you return your flat to govt may have been inspired by Hong Kong after 99years, it gets returned to China concept. DO YOU HAVE A CHOICE to say no, of course not. Every building projects have budgets and actual cost. Why should they show you now when they've kept it secret for years. PAP never undertake anything at a loss. LKY was successful and good at biz before entering politics. True due to his biz savvy policies we became First World. But like everything, the Law of Diminishing returns exists and unfortunately, LHL is no LKY. Hence, this is the point of witnessing everything Spore has been good in in the 70s, 80s falling apart.
@ahchoon9067
@ahchoon9067 Жыл бұрын
SO ALL PARTIES TENDER PRICE MUST DISCLOSE? THEN TENDER FOR WHAT MIGHT JUST FIX THE PICE.
@jamess8175
@jamess8175 Жыл бұрын
HDB is running a business. Why would they disclose their cost and thereby disclosing their profit? Which business owner lets you know their profit margin from their sale to you? If you realise they are running a business, you will know why.
@jamess8175
@jamess8175 Жыл бұрын
@Seeyou Seemee I shouldn't be your target, you nitwit. I am not HDB.
@enthufm
@enthufm Жыл бұрын
@@jamess8175 In most, if not all tenders, you are required to break down your cost. how you factor in profit within your cost to boost the final price is your problem. I don't think it is about disclosing profit. Secondly, we are talking about government here, the citizens are natural stakeholder in the country, just now how a private firm is held accountable to their investors, so why shouldn't there be a disclosure. I mean at the end of the day if the government can justify the profit and the usage of the gains, then there shouldn't be a problem. It also helps provide more insights in to the raising property prices, especially public housing in sg.
@wongfamilyfavchannels5488
@wongfamilyfavchannels5488 Жыл бұрын
Minister Indranee, pray please tell us how HDB determines affordability ? Pls do share the breakdown of this computation since breakdown of HDB prices are not, according to you, meaningful to buyers. This is why we need Opposition. Shame on those leaders who discredit them by saying they do not do anything.
@thatone8085
@thatone8085 Жыл бұрын
Mr singh is an asset to singapore. Please take your supplements everyday. We need you.
@justingomez4715
@justingomez4715 Жыл бұрын
Indranee is oblivious " Lost " The question is about "Disclosures" A simple question asked by Pritam to reveal how computations are arrived on how HDB sets out pricing on Subsidies in accordance with HDB units prices with consideration to Land Prices. Does Indranee need to consult the Auditor General on this ? The question is not about affordability - affordability is about a criteria which HDB sets out so mortgage debt can be serviced during & after purchase. 80 % of Singaporean's live in Public Housing (HDB Flats ) What did Indranee say ? She needs to formulate an answer ? Roof over your head is a fundamental need ! Disclosure on Public Housing Pricing & and the means it's priced categorically is of Public interest. What's going on ?
@megadisc1982
@megadisc1982 Жыл бұрын
Thanks government ☺️
@tonykwok9763
@tonykwok9763 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍
@xijinpig7978
@xijinpig7978 Жыл бұрын
no wonder LHL wants full uncontested govt. RUBBER STAMP all policy and no questions ask!
@user-hj1zj2fr8r
@user-hj1zj2fr8r Жыл бұрын
To you computation of HDB price is simple right? An A4 size paper and within a few seconds you can calculate and present the price. Yes. That's how easy is it. There is no need for HDB finance and accounting department. After all, it's so simple. Frankly there should be auditor in charge to be present in this debate and help answer questions. After all no opposition mp are trained financially. They don't know accounting standards and presentation rules.
@Whatis2468
@Whatis2468 Жыл бұрын
@@user-hj1zj2fr8r Hahaha..... draw it on A4 paper 😆😆😆😆😆
@franciscody9622
@franciscody9622 Жыл бұрын
If the government is open and transparent Parliament will not be wasting time and money on discussion like this. The lack of openness and transparency in the public sector is a compelling reason for regime change.
@kyouichilogpose8059
@kyouichilogpose8059 Жыл бұрын
The HDB size shrink faster than Water level rising
@sgpropertybuyertherapy
@sgpropertybuyertherapy Жыл бұрын
Good Job ! Mr Singh will vote for you coming election.
@profitmuhammed
@profitmuhammed Жыл бұрын
The cat is out of the bag, there needs to be a more strict criteria when selecting people holding minister seat
@windydragon6522
@windydragon6522 Жыл бұрын
Sorry. Cost breakdown is key. Hdb is not making a profit so we must make sure there are no Najibs siphoning off funds along the way. We are mature enough to understand the hdb needs to price the flats differently or at a certain fraction compared to private properties. Heck, we can also accept we don't own the flats in the common layman definition of the term.
@DESLCP
@DESLCP Жыл бұрын
You will never know if there is a 1 najib or 2 or 3
@moseschew4538
@moseschew4538 Жыл бұрын
No need Najibs when we alrdy have PAP siphoning off funds into their own pockets
@santai9741
@santai9741 Жыл бұрын
Najib learnt alot from DAP Lims family
@doggysolution3489
@doggysolution3489 Жыл бұрын
accountability supercedes meaningless?
@taeyeonist1462
@taeyeonist1462 Жыл бұрын
ownself check ownself
@user-un5yw9ob3p
@user-un5yw9ob3p Жыл бұрын
Profit gao gao! Money go where nobody knows! Vote wisely
@sgfuture7114
@sgfuture7114 Жыл бұрын
This topic is what most Singaporeans concerned rather than the 377A....
@slacker2747
@slacker2747 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@adriankt
@adriankt Жыл бұрын
377A is important.. the whole world is concerning.. this can bring in more xxx into SG
@SimonK3113
@SimonK3113 Жыл бұрын
100% agree
@pubor7266
@pubor7266 Жыл бұрын
plenty of people say no need check and balance - the lack of a clear explanation from the minister to justify not disclosing the cost breakdown for public housing speaks for itself - to them, such information disclosure is not meaningful (seriously?) and flat buyers are expected to take the price set/fixed by HDB without question, even if it means the flat is overpriced. Come on, is the minister sure she wants to give that explanation to our next generation?
@Slash2416
@Slash2416 Жыл бұрын
30% increase in price for HDB !!!!
@mrpolarbearrrrr
@mrpolarbearrrrr Жыл бұрын
Pritam is the voice of Singaporeans.
@godsamazinggrace5331
@godsamazinggrace5331 Жыл бұрын
HDB means government house Not yours No matter how much you pay Ownership belongs to hdb
@thatone8085
@thatone8085 Жыл бұрын
We are only renting brothers and sisters. Everything belongs to the government including your life.
@troywho1627
@troywho1627 Жыл бұрын
@@thatone8085 hard cold facts👍🤝🇸🇬
@godsamazinggrace5331
@godsamazinggrace5331 Жыл бұрын
She was caught off guard Can't answer So manipulate
@faustonissi5692
@faustonissi5692 Жыл бұрын
HDB minister should answer
@mohdzaharimatnin3700
@mohdzaharimatnin3700 Жыл бұрын
Even a PSLE student knows it’s a simple question can be answered..HDB pricing is getting more more ridiculous
@lmk928
@lmk928 Жыл бұрын
It's not about affordability...it is about transparency! Pay you more than 1 million still cannot understand?
@quanjil3918
@quanjil3918 Жыл бұрын
well, their mindset is 1 m only....i am overworked........
@thatone8085
@thatone8085 Жыл бұрын
Pay her 3 million ,the answer will be immediate or last night she played majong and could not think fast.
@louth1770
@louth1770 Жыл бұрын
When rents and prices are spiking up 30%, authorities better explain and justify it and explain it how it came to this.
@BeachBoi1000
@BeachBoi1000 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see how WP govern Singapore.
@PrimeChaosVC
@PrimeChaosVC Жыл бұрын
@@BeachBoi1000 Honestly, do we really want to see that? Or could we afford to have that become a reality?
@ahchoon9067
@ahchoon9067 Жыл бұрын
RENT PRICE UP MANY SINGAPOREAN HAPPY. MANY FOREGINERS HERE SUPPORT WP.
@BeachBoi1000
@BeachBoi1000 Жыл бұрын
@@PrimeChaosVC We can’t for sure. Because we have PAP supporters and WP supporters, they don’t support each other. I just want to see how WP responds to questions when queried. We all know it is easier to ask then to answer.
@quanjil3918
@quanjil3918 Жыл бұрын
sorry, it's better for them to deflect the situation by ah loong focussing on why we dont need opposition🙂
@uUwUu69
@uUwUu69 Жыл бұрын
Hope yall can let indranee know how meaningful things are in 2025
@AB-cg2tc
@AB-cg2tc Жыл бұрын
She will definitely win again in 2025, it's proven that sinkies only dare to bark in social media but balls dropped at the voting booth
@deltacharlie2011
@deltacharlie2011 Жыл бұрын
VHO
@chenghonggoh4746
@chenghonggoh4746 Жыл бұрын
@@deltacharlie2011 Should be VTO
@justineesun3396
@justineesun3396 Жыл бұрын
the sooner the better, then again, the spoof of SG people knowing well enough the truth yet choosing to blank in the cheque for such Ministers to ruling their peasant lives, how is it so to complaininngs?
@chanlucky374
@chanlucky374 Жыл бұрын
Indranee doesn't have the answer so she keeps asking Singh to file the question so that she can have the time to look for the answer. 3 cheers for Pritam Singh.
@deltacharlie2011
@deltacharlie2011 Жыл бұрын
doesn't have the answer and sleeping la. So now kena question by PS, asked him to file the questions so that she can go back and assistants to look out for answers
@nasriibrahim8109
@nasriibrahim8109 Жыл бұрын
Mr Pritam Singh have done his homework thank you Mr Pritam Singh
@zackozacko5398
@zackozacko5398 Жыл бұрын
Totaly agree...this lady is of no use...vote her out nxt election
@gohwk85
@gohwk85 Жыл бұрын
@@zackozacko5398 I think all of you are not understanding Pritam Singh's question. He is asking for the publication of the development costs of HDB for the public to read. When I am purchasing a flat, I do not want to be an accountant, I just want to ensure that the price is reasonable before I purchase the flat. Mr. Singh is not doing his homework; he just wants to know the dollar value of the flats so that they will be able to publish the amount of Singapore's reserves. Would you want to reveal your salary to any random stranger? To publish development costs of HDB flat, or any other government expenditure, will reveal our reserves to other nations, making us more exposed to the scrutiny of other nations.
@zackozacko5398
@zackozacko5398 Жыл бұрын
Dnt you realise the price of hdb bto flat too xpensive...for average person even you reach age 55...ur loan still nt finish
@Rob-lq2ny
@Rob-lq2ny Жыл бұрын
Indranee is not well prepared for Singh's questions. In short, Singh wins the match!
@saifulredzuan5236
@saifulredzuan5236 Жыл бұрын
Ya its not even a sparring like what the caption says
@hasifmail91
@hasifmail91 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it can be replied with there and than because everything that's is said is parliment is recorded. Better to have the facts then tell the parliment assumptions.
@DESLCP
@DESLCP Жыл бұрын
She need to do homework tonight.
@justnow5809
@justnow5809 Жыл бұрын
These kind of question should have been pre made known so that accurate figures can be delivered...
@77bovi
@77bovi Жыл бұрын
They are given the questions in advance to prepare for. That's why she claims to have an answer. So this makes her behaviour even worse.
@pufftay3182
@pufftay3182 Жыл бұрын
It's about transparency, and that's very meaningful!
@ahchoon9067
@ahchoon9067 Жыл бұрын
SO ALL PARTIES TENDER PRICE MUST DISCLOSE? THEN TENDER FOR WHAT MIGHT JUST FIX THE PICE.
@77bovi
@77bovi Жыл бұрын
Means you don't have the answer, Indranee. View this as a display of incompetence and/or naughtiness. This kinda standard selected for CEC is the reason why PAP does not have my respect. Seems they reward based on loyalty not suitability. I can agree with some names but when Josephine Teo, Idranee, Edwin Tong are selected for CEC it really is poor decision making imo.
@shurakishi4707
@shurakishi4707 Жыл бұрын
LHL mentioned in his PAP address to the party that the opposition has gone AWOL with regards to thorny issues. This is worse cos when a formal, very valid question is put to the relevant minister about hdb costs, he receives a reply that “it does not matter”. And what matters is “whether Singaporeans can afford a flat” I think it is important to know what goes into the “costs” of our flats, and whether it has been inflated improperly. Indranee, please do not sidestep the question and answer appropriately
@deltacharlie2011
@deltacharlie2011 Жыл бұрын
she is just a blur vase...
@chenghonggoh4746
@chenghonggoh4746 Жыл бұрын
The PM commented on opp going AWOL. How about soldiers acting blur.
@zackozacko5398
@zackozacko5398 Жыл бұрын
Cn see indranee dnt even know the answer...when pap lose...they start to talk nonsence....so singaporeans vote for more opposition party...
@shurakishi4707
@shurakishi4707 Жыл бұрын
@@zackozacko5398 let’s see what reply they will give to PS since she has asked him to file his questions as independent Supplementary Questions.
@zackozacko5398
@zackozacko5398 Жыл бұрын
Cn see thru her face...dnt even cn anwer PS question....be prepair to vote her out...
@willyhuang4026
@willyhuang4026 Жыл бұрын
Imagine without opposition, no one will probe and ask challenging questions. And the govt will have role play whereby they will question and answer themselves; ownself check ownself and ownself praise ownself.
@AB-cg2tc
@AB-cg2tc Жыл бұрын
The 61% stupid fools prefer to give them a blank cheque and then cry why so crowded, so many South Asia people etc
@ahchoon9067
@ahchoon9067 Жыл бұрын
SO ALL PARTIES TENDER PRICE MUST DISCLOSE? THEN TENDER FOR WHAT MIGHT JUST FIX THE PICE.
@wayfaringstranger5808
@wayfaringstranger5808 Жыл бұрын
Next time teacher ask you question in class and you don't know how to answer, just ask your teacher to file the question.
@bossman1958
@bossman1958 Жыл бұрын
Made my day!🤣
@impopquiz
@impopquiz Жыл бұрын
Just reply that the question is not meaningful enough to answer. 😅
@firefly4326
@firefly4326 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@kelvincheng5901
@kelvincheng5901 Жыл бұрын
At least she's more tactful, compared to her colleague's "What's the point of the question?"
@chenghonggoh4746
@chenghonggoh4746 Жыл бұрын
You have to preface that with an explanation that the answer is technical in nature....
@ar-t2742
@ar-t2742 Жыл бұрын
Can we start a petition to find out about the cost breakdown of the BTO flat developments and land costs, at least for sample projects in matured and non-matured estates? If there are sufficient signatures of concerned citizens, it implies that the answer, whatever amounts are, is meaningful for the citizenry.
@solomonlee4503
@solomonlee4503 Жыл бұрын
The increase in HDB is the result of the govt. increasing its land price. Govt is the largest land owner in SG. It call the shot in pricing its land.
@wilsonlimweisheng
@wilsonlimweisheng Жыл бұрын
HDB now hardly affordable
@scbchong6964
@scbchong6964 Жыл бұрын
Talk cock lah. There is Means Testing and subsidies lah. Plus BTO are not million dollars lah. Only 2% of resales are done at million dollars. And it is Singaporeans who buy, hor, not PAP anyhow name a high price.
@september9646
@september9646 Жыл бұрын
​@@scbchong6964 "Talk Cock" it only reflects how your parenthood raised you
@scbchong6964
@scbchong6964 Жыл бұрын
@@september9646 You ever reflect on if you are a govt minister, would you expend your career and energy helping complaining, lying, blaming, ungrateful, spiteful, arrogant, a-hole singaporeans with your kind of character and personality?
@GKP999
@GKP999 Жыл бұрын
Don't ask me, let me pass the ball to someone else. If that person screws up, that's their problem. What is this woman good for?
@awll5999
@awll5999 Жыл бұрын
I was surprise Indranee have no answer to most questions and behave like my junior staff : “don’t mind u ask me in an email then I discuss with my team and reply u.”
@deltacharlie2011
@deltacharlie2011 Жыл бұрын
not capable la. Only know how to say YES to the boss only
@tommytan7408
@tommytan7408 Жыл бұрын
Your junior staff not taking home million dollars lah!
@troywho1627
@troywho1627 Жыл бұрын
standard SOP
@tommytan7408
@tommytan7408 Жыл бұрын
Usually hidden replies like this points to something seriously wrong!
@soul.snatch
@soul.snatch Жыл бұрын
Then go back to office, delegate the siao giinna to do the research and formulate a reply by a certain deadline 🤣🤣
@alvinal1345
@alvinal1345 Жыл бұрын
Why is it PAP could get away by refusing to answer the question and provide data in parliament? What is the speaker doing?
@EnviroMation
@EnviroMation Жыл бұрын
Speaker also from PAP. Will a dog bite its owner?
@tankman20064
@tankman20064 Жыл бұрын
Speaker take MC
@sgfuture7114
@sgfuture7114 Жыл бұрын
Speaker is dreaming 😴💤
@DESLCP
@DESLCP Жыл бұрын
@@EnviroMation no 😆😆😆
@EnviroMation
@EnviroMation Жыл бұрын
@@DESLCP Exactly. Speaker - controls parliament proceedings - From PAP. President - Control national kazanah - Ex-pap. Dont know what to say.
@Halflifex
@Halflifex Жыл бұрын
What spar? It was just, pls file another notion. I didn't prepare. Thank you.
@benzachary1151
@benzachary1151 Жыл бұрын
If you cant undetstand a simple Q..how on earth do you qualify to be a minister. Abt time ministers shld also be subject to POFMA
@scbchong6964
@scbchong6964 Жыл бұрын
All those who are asking actually not working yet or never buy property before lah. They want to stir and make up amusements and gossip. And Pritam is going through motion to appease and pander to the worst of his supporters. You think Pritam wants his family's HDB flats to crash in value or his own private property to dump?
@charlesm8529
@charlesm8529 Жыл бұрын
I hear specific and precise questions, but answers appear to be I don't have any now. OMG
@tommytan7408
@tommytan7408 Жыл бұрын
The way that these questions are answered, already, to me, has revealed the answers! There are many good policies that this government has achieved, unfortunately, leading the issue of HDB subsidies to ever murkier waters is not one of them.
@sgfuture7114
@sgfuture7114 Жыл бұрын
Debate! Debate! And more Debates! More Goodies on the way.....!!!! That's the way!!! Hammer it harder!!!
@limlisa
@limlisa Жыл бұрын
Then might as well ask WP to be govt loh
@BrandonSKW
@BrandonSKW Жыл бұрын
Well done Worker's Party, good job! More votes coming to you in next GE!
@liphinlaw3850
@liphinlaw3850 Жыл бұрын
And we will see more Singaporean raise white flag and go to Malaysia to work if WP gain regime in next GE 🙂
@tangt4860
@tangt4860 Жыл бұрын
Then what is the meaning of Indranee as a senior minister and a human being when it is so outright she is being not transparent in governance.
@77bovi
@77bovi Жыл бұрын
She is also now part of CEC...
@AB-cg2tc
@AB-cg2tc Жыл бұрын
Every month laugh to the bank with her fat salary and laughing at the sinkies FOOLS
@tommytan7408
@tommytan7408 Жыл бұрын
At least she speaks better English than quite a few of her colleagues..
@77bovi
@77bovi Жыл бұрын
@@tommytan7408 that is called style without substance. Rather have a person speak with basic English yet answer truthfully and fully.
@tangt4860
@tangt4860 Жыл бұрын
@@tommytan7408 you like a the forked tongue ?
@godsamazinggrace5331
@godsamazinggrace5331 Жыл бұрын
Look at the many changes in hdb policies over the course of time you will realized that something is amiss Now the truth has to be disclosed!!
@yusuf888
@yusuf888 Жыл бұрын
When ministers cannot answer questions by members in Parliament or just evade to answer questions, it just shows how accountable the government is to the people... They pay themselves the highest rate in the world and yet unable to answer simple questions put to them... Go learn from your British counterparts...
@derrickang3840
@derrickang3840 Жыл бұрын
Amazing when ruling party minister cannot answer question posed by opposition MP is embarassing & shame to draw million $$ from citizen & later get pension. Poor in the west gets pension & not elites. Days of Ford cars painted in black are over. HDB is built as an alternative housing to low & middle class citizens. It is not money spinning but help these class of citizen. It is not for the govt to quote whatever price & citizens had to bear for it. Obviously, we got the right to have the breakdown of the cost of a HDB flat. To us, 600K for public housing is extremely expensive especially it does not belonged to us or passed down to the next generation as we buy HDB with lease of 99 yrs. 100K to us is not easy to save as it means a life time saving. Quite obvious when elite speaks of 600K to them it means probably 6 cents. Looking at it, there is no answer to Pritam's question. Eye opening to decide carefully in the next GE. I come from very lousy school but can comprehend the whole debate. My teachers used to tell me if I do not answer to the question I will fail. Thanks a lot
@SubZero-qi9hk
@SubZero-qi9hk Жыл бұрын
In 1980's 3 Room HDB Flat price is like 20+ - 30+k. In Year 2000's 3 Room HDB Flat 200+k.
@ManjuTiger
@ManjuTiger Жыл бұрын
Should explore ways to build more BTOs asap to balance the supply and demand, when supply is high enough the prices will naturally become affordable.
@tanpengjoo7205
@tanpengjoo7205 Жыл бұрын
Indranee should retired n get more quality people like Pritam Singh.Pap should not always just want revenue n revenue so they can have more bonuses.
@scbchong6964
@scbchong6964 Жыл бұрын
Why should govt give financial and cost information to untrustworthy Opposition? Is Opposition a friend to govt or SG?
@Shinichiakiyamaaa
@Shinichiakiyamaaa Жыл бұрын
Of course it’s important - a very fair question.
@Mars-nr3mb
@Mars-nr3mb Жыл бұрын
Most HDB flats appear ridiculously unrefined in comparison to houses in other developed countries, they almost look like prisons and military bases to me.😅I'm not sure how such poorly designed flats can command such high prices, honestly speaking by many countries' standards, they would be considered slums.
@godsamazinggrace5331
@godsamazinggrace5331 Жыл бұрын
Can't agree more Oppressive and depressive to even look at them!!
@mahen77
@mahen77 Жыл бұрын
Yes reminds me of some communist nations lol. They’re not creative
@zackozacko5398
@zackozacko5398 Жыл бұрын
Pitram I like the way you question indranee....at the end of the day...wp...1...pap..0...time to vote out this lady...
@louth1770
@louth1770 Жыл бұрын
I won't bother to vote for the party responsible for the spike in prices.
@AB-cg2tc
@AB-cg2tc Жыл бұрын
Everybody says the same thing but balls always dropped at the voting booth
@louth1770
@louth1770 Жыл бұрын
@@AB-cg2tc hardened balls for those who have been afflicted
@runonbun
@runonbun Жыл бұрын
Cheers to pritam
@ssvegeto1610
@ssvegeto1610 Жыл бұрын
how is this sparring? this seemed like normal professional questions and responses from both parties. Kudos to LO Singh for asking those questions and good for Min Indranee for verifying her facts before replying
@RB-rp6ud
@RB-rp6ud Жыл бұрын
A good opposition that provides check & balance to the Government is healthy in a democracy.
@BertrandTan
@BertrandTan Жыл бұрын
Come on ST. Do better. That wasn’t a sparring. That was a good and civil exchange. Let’s try not to descend the paths of the Americans and make our politics a sports contest?
@alientango5632
@alientango5632 Жыл бұрын
Looks like our minister did not do homework and also have no answer at all?
@AB-cg2tc
@AB-cg2tc Жыл бұрын
What do they know. Every month enjoy life with their fat salary, hot coffee and their lackeys presenting all the nice data to them while we rush to work to put food on the table.
@jayjay357
@jayjay357 Жыл бұрын
The cost need to be transparent.
@zahidallapitchay9366
@zahidallapitchay9366 Жыл бұрын
The ONLY validated solution for FORWARD SINGAPORE 🇸🇬 is to vote PAP out of Government. PAP is no longer beneficial for Singaporean Moving forward. We don't need changes but TRANSPARENCY is key #PAPHASFAILEDUS #VOTEPAPOUT #GE2025
@saifulredzuan5236
@saifulredzuan5236 Жыл бұрын
This one more important to discuss rather then 377A issues
@Grippybananas
@Grippybananas Жыл бұрын
Nah, it deserves the same amount of attention and debate
@saifulredzuan5236
@saifulredzuan5236 Жыл бұрын
@@Grippybananas Ya..understad but by logical and biologicaly form by mother nature there no need a discussion anyway..🤭 once if legalised ah other cult starts to come forward and ask for legality..say satanic cult
@EnviroMation
@EnviroMation Жыл бұрын
@@Grippybananas 377A affects only certain grp. HDB affects everyone. Which is important now?
@Grippybananas
@Grippybananas Жыл бұрын
@@EnviroMation So the group should be continued to be marginalized and ignored?
@Buttercookies0
@Buttercookies0 Жыл бұрын
@@Grippybananas Doesn't the HDB issue affect you also? What do you mean by marginalized and ignored?
@snmurugesan6691
@snmurugesan6691 Жыл бұрын
What a healthy session, respecting each other.
@leechengho2821
@leechengho2821 Жыл бұрын
If she wants to earn our S'poreans respect she shld give a straightforward answer to PS's question without mingling with her words.
@quanjil3918
@quanjil3918 Жыл бұрын
usually when pap die die refuses to be transparent, means they are not able to defend their positions, simple as that.
@DaigoParry
@DaigoParry Жыл бұрын
Worst case scenario, GOT SOMETHING TO HIDE.
@mariantia926
@mariantia926 Жыл бұрын
A beautiful white lies saying disclosure not helpful.. May I ask indranee, what is helpful then?? Just like moh deciding which jab to take for covid, moh has to disclose their finding and utimately tell us which is the best and right choice? Hdb is the heaviest investment of a person life in their home called Singapore. Are u secret society that data, figures or computation cannot be disclose?? Even u go to praying, your God will point out your mistake with karma when times come??? 🤔 🤔 😂 😂 The most irresponsible answer I cam get from a minister??? If all cannot disclose, then I say, no need to elect u as mp, waste time, waste money to pay your salary simply.. We just need to ask hdb cfo to come on board to disclose if needed to satisfy the queries from public So simple. A seasonal mp with old enough wisdom give a lousy and childish answer to us as public..we pay high salary to get such a low grade answer?? What does it implies?? 🤔So much knowledge and wisdom and experience but give a nursery class answer 🤔 like building Lego house instead 🏡..
@SuSu-qj8je
@SuSu-qj8je Жыл бұрын
Pritam 👍👍👍👍
@jeremysng4214
@jeremysng4214 Жыл бұрын
Properties prices are what most Singaporeans are concerned in comparison with 377A. For PM to bark that WP went AWOL at the latter is laughable.
@richardwong1965
@richardwong1965 Жыл бұрын
Indranee is totally lost in a made believe world of her own. Too much reading Alice in the wonderland. 👎
@aliffluffy4111
@aliffluffy4111 Жыл бұрын
power mr ps ..
@shawnrowan
@shawnrowan Жыл бұрын
Why is hard to answer a simple, well structured answer? If HDB is not supposed to be making a profit then it’s simple to show a breakdown of costs right? I thought we would get an answer but instead got sent around in circles
@scbchong6964
@scbchong6964 Жыл бұрын
If you got to ask, it means you never buy any property before. You want to know for amusement, gossip and entertainment, right? btw Freedom of Speech and Information does not mean giving financial information to untrustworthy people. Opposition is not a friend, so why should they be given any information.
@kaliyaperumaldeepan85
@kaliyaperumaldeepan85 Жыл бұрын
Look what we voted for. Minister who can’t even share the cost for building our home. They build a home and come out with a random price. I feel robbed. If HDB is to ensure every citizen has a home it should also be affordable.
@emmenualledelarux2059
@emmenualledelarux2059 Жыл бұрын
pls ask MPs and ministers to tour the BTOs and see how big is the house... weather they CAN STAY IN OR NOT
@holypunk12
@holypunk12 Жыл бұрын
Prices up 40% in 2 years, rental up 60% in 3 years (from 1.7k to 2.7 k ! for 2 bedroom) ! why no controls in place ?!! So employees suppose to job hopping all the time ?!!
@douglasang3527
@douglasang3527 Жыл бұрын
Change Government ! Sack PAP , Retrench PAP , this will be meaningful ! 😄
@limlisa
@limlisa Жыл бұрын
Do that and see downfall of Spore
@GrumpX
@GrumpX Жыл бұрын
Thats what the M’sians did last elections and they paid the price of that due to a hopelessly incompetent and corrupt Pakatan govt.
@quanjil3918
@quanjil3918 Жыл бұрын
no need to be sarcastic, we only ask for simple answer to important question🙂
@Heyits_sitinurr
@Heyits_sitinurr Жыл бұрын
This is what a healthy discussion will be like
@MQAR
@MQAR Жыл бұрын
Wow. PAP is always not ready to answering question? So jialat uh?
@bmnczouk5412
@bmnczouk5412 Жыл бұрын
She didnt freaking answer anything!!! She set her own question and answer her B.S!!! Sleeping to the max.
@scbchong6964
@scbchong6964 Жыл бұрын
All those who are asking actually not working yet or never buy property before lah. They want to stir and make up amusements and gossip. And Pritam is going through motion to appease and pander to the worst of his supporters. You think Pritam wants his family's HDB flats to crash in value or his own private property to dump?
@noxbobby7192
@noxbobby7192 Жыл бұрын
Buyer: ur BTO is not getting affordable
@DarkMeyer777
@DarkMeyer777 Жыл бұрын
Talk so much flats are still unaffordable and it matters to us and we want to know the breakdown of the flats in each project and we want to know the cause of high prices!!!! Like you buy food we know cost price like oil etc goes up but pretty sure prices like material etc are uniform across all estates
@NICKDABOSS92
@NICKDABOSS92 Жыл бұрын
Why she keep asking him to file separate questions?
@Wuyh99
@Wuyh99 Жыл бұрын
Actually it's very true, so consumer can have a more informed choice in buying. to compare and see if it's worth it
@shuchanwong5054
@shuchanwong5054 Жыл бұрын
Why HDB BTO and resale price increase? 1. Inflation - Higher labour and material costs 2. GST hike - Government add 2% to your building costs, so sellers add some more to make it 5%~10% in selling price Good luck to future generations who want to own a HDB flat
@bakshir87
@bakshir87 Жыл бұрын
ST, how can you even call this 'sparring'..this is one punch KO match lah...haha
@AB-cg2tc
@AB-cg2tc Жыл бұрын
You already mentioned is ST so have to support their masters
@godsamazinggrace5331
@godsamazinggrace5331 Жыл бұрын
One by one starting to reveal and expose themselves as incompetents !!
@justineesun3396
@justineesun3396 Жыл бұрын
so...coming chance...do make very WISE Decision .
@troywho1627
@troywho1627 Жыл бұрын
@@justineesun3396 trust me nuthing will chge. mark my words..been donkey years all still the same no change.🥱
@jasonbruce3481
@jasonbruce3481 Жыл бұрын
Verdict : WP win, PAP lose
@raisko
@raisko Жыл бұрын
No it's not just about affordability. People do want to know the costs before they make an investment that is more than their net worth at the time when they usually consider buying a flat (ie 20~30 years old). Why is it so hard to just release the prices so that people have a clearer idea about what they are about to purchase? When you go to the supermarket and buy groceries, do you not look out for what item has the best value for money? Just because we can afford to buy something there doesn't mean we buy whatever that is within our budget. And if people already want to compare prices for items that are worth $5, what makes you think we wouldn't wanna compare prices for things worth $500, 000++
@charleslim1296
@charleslim1296 Жыл бұрын
the problem here is if they know that you can easily afford th pay then their prices auto shot up, its already happening everywhere now.
@liamporter1137
@liamporter1137 Жыл бұрын
Anyone who needs to wait for about 5 years for BTO is ridiculous. The waiting time should be reduced to less than 2 years.
@troywho1627
@troywho1627 Жыл бұрын
cnnt la later hdb loose more money leh...🇸🇬👍
@tanpengjoo7205
@tanpengjoo7205 Жыл бұрын
BTO are meant for bringing in more foreign talent as they are willing to convert become Singaporean immediately. Thats why more land are being used to build more h d b flats , just travel around this island , any small plot of land it will be squeeze up with build another h d b block.
@icyiceisjustanothername5338
@icyiceisjustanothername5338 Жыл бұрын
Willing to convert? Lmao why would they convert when they have the best of both worlds by just being PR? This is something the GOV never ever look upon
@malht842
@malht842 Жыл бұрын
Price is one issue.. Size is another!
@ska5568
@ska5568 Жыл бұрын
“Should we give the total development cost? We don’t think anything would be achieved by doing so. The reason is this - what is the real important thing to Singaporeans? The real important thing is, are you able to afford a flat?” said Ms Indranee, who is also Minister in the Prime Minister’s Office. 😡🤬*!!!!* *He knows he won't get it but also showing the people of Singapore how a reasonable request is said to be useless by the ruling party!!!*
@mangotango7647
@mangotango7647 Жыл бұрын
Policies are only made for us, not for them. That's the hard truth
@krisli9614
@krisli9614 Жыл бұрын
Regardless who is the governing party, PAP or others, the people voted the government in to be honest and transparent. Therefore a breakdown of the cost of the most basic asset (ie. HDB Flats) of what the people are buying should be shown clearly and made known to the public. Furthermore all the country assets be it HDB, LTA or even GIC and the those Temasek and GLC, shall be accounted by a 3rd party reputable accounting firm and made known to the public. Nothing is negotiable on transparency. This audit exercise should not be done by internal related body like the Auditor General. Does not matter who is the running the government, this part is non negotiable to the public Miss Indranee. Let the people who votes in the government be the judge whether they want to know the details of this information.
@scbchong6964
@scbchong6964 Жыл бұрын
All those who are asking actually not working yet or never buy property before lah. They want to stir and make up amusements and gossip. And Pritam is going through motion to appease and pander to the worst of his supporters. You think Pritam wants his family's HDB flats to crash in value or his own private property to dump?
@boomikavia6
@boomikavia6 Жыл бұрын
Hope Mr Singh will help to ask why so many forighners cming for jobs when votes time they promised to bring down the forighners an help Singaporean more 😠☹️
@BomBomm12345
@BomBomm12345 Жыл бұрын
Need to refer to accounting body for info loll LHL said in 2020 parliament that the Ministers need to know their stuff and come prepared to speak in Parliament..
@Akira-888
@Akira-888 Жыл бұрын
They ONLY keen to fix the OPPO smartphone than HowdyDoodyBums. God have mercy on us. 🙏
@kyouichilogpose8059
@kyouichilogpose8059 Жыл бұрын
Demolish BTO. Reinstate HDB sizes please 🥺
@limlisa
@limlisa Жыл бұрын
Then you don't sell your flat for profit can?
@kyouichilogpose8059
@kyouichilogpose8059 Жыл бұрын
@@limlisa can. Anymore conditions ? I clearly know real value better than you. :X
@quanjil3918
@quanjil3918 Жыл бұрын
what's important is affordability....who are you kidding...if loan period is extended to 99 years, 5 mil 5 room flat we also can afford lah🙂
@bomo8033
@bomo8033 Жыл бұрын
Next election...pls vote pap out... Stop being spineless
@SimonK3113
@SimonK3113 Жыл бұрын
Change is often spelt like fear....
@liphinlaw3850
@liphinlaw3850 Жыл бұрын
I agree to vote them out, because I would like to see how Singaporean will suffer under WP regime such as raise white flag while economy corrupted. Of course, like Malaysian opposition wish, more and more Singaporean go to Malaysia to work as general worker 🙂. Ask questions are very easy by just being opposition, but it will be different level when you are in ruling party. 🙂
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