Private Gerald Loraine - Not Given The Respect He Deserved In Band of Brothers

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Ай бұрын

Private Gerald Loraine was a member of Service Company and Colonel Sink's driver but on D-DAY June 6 1944, he took part in the assault on Brecourt Manor alongside members of Easy Co. His portrayal in the series was not fitting of the actual part he played in the real assault.

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@andradebiscotti Күн бұрын

TY for highlighting the truth about Gerald, a member of our family. He comes from a long line of Military veterans who served in every war in the US.

@Seawizz203 Ай бұрын

Thanks for correcting Pvt. Lorraine’s legacy and heroism. He was a part of a generation that will not be repeated for centuries. I will add one thing, awarding the CMH or the DSC to officers without some type of recognition for the soldiers, Marines, Airmen and sailors that served under them seems a disservice to those brave men, and women. That is, unless the officer independently did something so heroic that it deserved honoring he or she with a medal. Just my two cents. In my opinion, anyone who serves in combat is a hero.

@pfdrtom Ай бұрын

Thank you for setting this right. I can only hope other people like me, but more importantly, the people who teach the history of this battle, will from now on get it right and tell the truth! From a former 1st Ranger Batt boy (late 80s early90s) in Texas.

@johnneill5960 Ай бұрын

I don’t give a F if you were a cook if you jumped into Normandy you’re a hero and had big balls .

@B1900pilot Ай бұрын

My Uncle was a glider troop, and executive officer of an airborne ordnance company. He went into Holland in a glider later during "Market Garden".

@markharnitchek9205 Ай бұрын

thanks for getting the facts of the matter right and correcting the story of PFC Loraine on D-Day ... nicely done.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

Thank you!

@Philip_LasVegas Ай бұрын

Another Greatest Generation Hero. RIP Sir

@jeffreym.keilen1095 Ай бұрын

Awesome to hear the back story! Dude was tanker tough. As for Winters, knocking out those guns,saved more than just "2" men.

@richardmardis2492 7 күн бұрын

Thank you for bringing attention to this brave man, and correcting the history.

@WorldWarTruth 7 күн бұрын

Thanks for listening

@michaeldelano9233 Күн бұрын

In regards to Loraine missing the German running across the field I remembered hearing that Guarnere missed and Loraine hit his target. I was able to find this account in warfare history network. "The team then resumed firing down the trench at the Germans, three of whom leapt out and fled across the field, offering perfect targets. Winters hollered for Lorraine and Guarnere, who were standing close by. All three opened fire. Winters hit his man in the head and Lorraine caught his man with a blast from his Thompson. Guarnere, so full of adrenaline and rage, missed his target. “I never missed!” he thought angrily. “Never missed!”"

@WorldWarTruth Күн бұрын

Yes that's correct. Ironic huh.

@LoosMoose Ай бұрын

Hollywood cant resist changing it for their own reasons.

@basher5107 Ай бұрын

How many individual stories can you fit in one mini series?

@steveoconnor7069 Ай бұрын

@@basher5107 They did a pretty good job overall but got several things wrong. This incident and Blythe's death are two examples. I know Dick Winters also disapproved of the nudity included in the one episode.

@basher5107 Ай бұрын

I absolutely know they got many things wrong but if the series wasn’t so damn compelling would you care about Hall,Blythe or Lorraine? If anything when I was done watching the series I read several books and enjoyed them all True Hero’s every last one of them!

@LoosMoose Ай бұрын

@@basher5107 well.... sorry... it is a good series it has redeeming values but i loathe hollywood for screwing with history when they simply did not need to. Not only is the overwhelming arrogance present but they do it to make a buck and promote themselves as "story tellers" and twist the truth. I have always found truth to be more fascinating and rewarding than some phoney baloney version from someone that not only was.not there but would profit from making someone elses heroic story their own version. It is just wrong.

@John-qb8vd 19 күн бұрын

As if you could have done it any better.

@danielb7660 Ай бұрын

Thank you Pvt Lorraine for your gallant service. For Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks, thanks for throwing another Hero under the bus for the sake of your artistic license.

@ColinH1973 Ай бұрын

Excellent work, and full credit to you for your efforts on Pte Loraine's behalf. Thank you.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

Thanks for listening

@ivanlowjones Ай бұрын

What is a Pte.? The U.S Army uses Pvt., or Pfc.

@saberx08 Ай бұрын

Yeah, it really sucks how they portray Loraine as kinda a fifth wheel to the unit. In reality, he was very effective. When they were shooting the fleeing Germans while taking the first gun, Loraine is depicted as missing the guys while Guarnere takes them out. In real life it was actually the reverse. Guarnere missed the German he was shooting at, and Winters had to shoot him. All the while, the Germans that Loraine shot went right down. Later on, a German who was stunned by a grenade came out to surrender. Winters was trying to point him to leave the trench, but he had a hard time understanding. Loraine slipped on a pair of brass knuckles and belted the guy. Winters didn't care for treating prisoners that way, but it did the trick. The German suddenly understood to leave the trench to go surrender to someone else. The show depicts Joe Toye as using brass knuckles on a German, but he didn't have any during that attack.

@stevekaczynski3793 29 күн бұрын

In "A Rumor Of War", Marine Lt Philip Caputo wrote (of Vietnam) that drivers were invariably cheerful and helpful, because surly and uncooperative drivers were likely to be given rifles and sent into the line. It seems Loraine freely chose to fight in combat and accept the higher risk.

@ivorjohn3016 2 күн бұрын

as mch as i enjoy all the videos on the guys that are more well known because of the series. I really enjoy watching these about the guys who did their bit, but did not have a big part in the show. i thank you for all the great information

@WorldWarTruth 2 күн бұрын

Glad you like them!

@MrCadet08 Ай бұрын

I saw this series as a teenager in 2001. Years later, I studies this battle in military science class while I was a cadet

@basher5107 Ай бұрын

That’s what I did,the series peaked my interest so I opened a book,it’s a great read and better time spent than bitching about “Hollywood” getting it wrong,again👍

@plantfeeder6677 2 сағат бұрын

I'd had goosebumps if it had been me. I'll bet there wasn't a cadet in that class that hadn't heard of Breacourt Manor.

@NothusDeusVagus Ай бұрын

One could say that anyone who climbs into a perfectly working yet unarmoured vehicle and then allows themselves to be carried, under fire mind you, into battle then proceeds to jump out of that vehicle into enemy territory, likely during a firefight, for whatever reason that moves them, deserves not only a medal of Meritorious conduct, Gallantry, or Honour but also a well fitting and comfortable straight jacket to pin it upon. Why it takes for the shittiest situations in life to occur to bring out the very best in people is a constant source of amazement to me. Thank the Gods for all the crazy people.

@AngryMarine-il6ej 25 күн бұрын

The fact that he volunteered meant another rifleman that could help them do the job when they were still trying to assemble their company. It's a shame he was portrayed poorly in the series.

@Bumper776 Ай бұрын

Another soldier not mentioned much in the Band of Brothers was James Campbell who was killed when he took "Babe" Heffron's place on a patrol in Oct. 1944. Heffron mentions that Campbell saved his life in the interviews. Campbell is buried in Saint Francisville Illinois, his hometown. I have a photo of his headstone, but I do not know how to post it here.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

Ill have a look at his story, sounds interesting.

@airborne101pathfinder7 Ай бұрын

They did the same thing to Pvt.Albert Blythe as well.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

I have a couple of videos on Albert Blithe if you want to check it out.

@twostep1953 Ай бұрын

Every 'good' story needs a hero and a 'villain'. This is similar to the Easy Company commander who was criticized for cowardice after allowing the attack on Foy to stall (northeast of Bastogne). The book and TV series intentionally did not mention the man had been shot in the chest. This allowed them to showcase the bravery of the replacement company commander in that fight.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

Yes I did a video on Norman Dike if you want to check it out.

@CombatWombat7.62mm Ай бұрын

Great story of a great veteran and hero. The German Artillery were not 88s but were 10.5 cm leFH 18 Howitzers

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

Yeah the reports including the citation stated they were 88's and I don't like to change the narrative. I'm pretty sure they were captured French 105's as you say.

@donaldg.freeman2804 Ай бұрын

@@WorldWarTruth I was shocked to hear you read the citations and the guns described as '88's'. I've heard a lot of GI's describe all German artillery as "88's" so I can imagine some headquarters clerk typing that up. Maybe he thought it "sounded" better.

@user-wh3kh1tz5f Ай бұрын

Thank you! The truth is finally told.

@voonyboy Ай бұрын

A great series of videos you have produced. Discussion point: I am getting the feeling that there was a lot of "inner circle" lies and mistruths put about by a small number of people within E company who possibly idolised Winters, and would have nothing said against him, and who exaggerated the failing of others ? Perhaps Ambrose simply did not cast his net wide enough when doing research.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

Thank you and yes I agree, they protected each other and never dared to contradict anyone in the easy company circle.

@ridgerunner5772 Ай бұрын

Ambrose was interested in selling books, and being seen in media to promote his often plagiarized works that more often then not are fluff.... That binding of George McGovern is a keen example... I understand he was a fun instructor, but he sure was sage in his ability to get his mug in front of a camera rolling......

@Chubby_T0511 Ай бұрын

I've said many times Winters is idolised by loads of people basing it off of nothing other than a TV series. Based on a book by a historian known for his lazy research. I love Band of Brothers but understand that it's far from accurate.

@danieljohnstone6805 Ай бұрын

Albert Blythe Was Incorrectly Portrayed Also In The Series, He Was Severely Wounded But Survived, Also Served In Korea

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

Yes I have made a couple of videos on Blithe if you want to check it out.

@donaldg.freeman2804 Ай бұрын

Wow, well deserved correction. I thought he was killed in the episode?? Now I have to back and watch again.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

No he was pretty much just ignored. He was part of Winter's squad but as they start to destroy the guns its mainly Toye and Compton in toe.

@josephcjohnson9966 Ай бұрын

Hall radio op. A company was the kia. He was the kid who landed with winters on d day. He showed up late in assault with first group of reforcments with the TNT

@donaldg.freeman2804 Ай бұрын

@@josephcjohnson9966 Ah, ok, I thought there was a scene where Winters had to step over his body in the trench at some point. I ran through it about 10 times yesterday and couldn't see it. I remember originally that I thought it a reflective moment where Winters learned that the quick decisions he made on the battlefield would lead to men's deaths. Thanks for clearing that up. It is a little alarming to learn at this date that significant parts of the B of B story were not right and reflected badly on the individuals portrayed.

@dh5516 Ай бұрын

Band of Brothers is a great series. However, over time I've come to think that if you weren't part of the right clique when the stories were being written, you might be left out completely, or worse, you would have your personal story skewed. Over 300 guys served in Easy Company. Lorraine is a good example.

@adlerarmory8382 Ай бұрын

LTC Robert Cole was 502nd Parachute Infantry Regiment. More than just Easy Co 506th jumped into Normandy and Holland. It was the 502nd PIR bayonet charge lead by LTC Cole on Carentan that caused most of the German Fallschirnjaeger and Heer Soldaten to flee, making the Easy Co attack successful..

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

Ill be doing a video on him in the near future

@postrock12 26 күн бұрын

It baffles me that Ambrose didn’t do more research. You didn’t write a book but did more research than him

@johnwentzel6890 Ай бұрын

Has anyone read Ambrose’s book? Was prvt. Hall an actual participant in the Brecourt Manor engagement? If so, was he killed in action there as was depicted in the series? And if he was there, was he awarded any commendation. Again, if he was actually there and died he likely was commended and it’s a shame he was omitted from any mention of this in the series.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

I'm going to do a video on Hall in the near future.

@basher5107 Ай бұрын

Stephen Ambrose’s book is a great read,if you enjoyed BOB go to the library and read it,it’s a great read

@steveoconnor7069 Ай бұрын

@@basher5107 I reread it about once a year.

@Bill308A10 Ай бұрын

Yes Hall participated and was killed by the same manner in the film unfortunately.

@jonquinn11 Ай бұрын

Nonbody should ever take Ambrose's books as fact. He was a very lazy researcher and prone to things like plagiarism. Fine as a stating point, but do you due diligence, which he did not.

@B1900pilot Ай бұрын

I'm really surprised after watching your series of videos, how much of what occurred during WW2 in the 502PIR/E was incorrect!

@voonyboy Ай бұрын

"A great series of videos you have produced. Discussion point: I am getting the feeling that there was a lot of "inner circle" lies and mistruths put about by a small number of people within E company who possibly idolised Winters, and would have nothing said against him, and who exaggerated the failing of others ? Perhaps Ambrose simply did not cast his net wide enough when doing research."

@B1900pilot Ай бұрын

@@voonyboy This makes me very sad for the way some members honor was tarnished...I HONOR all the troops of all nations that participated in OVERLORD.

@chrispierdominici3891 Ай бұрын

I suspect much of this portrayal stems from yet another combination of the views (read opinions) of some of the Easy Co vets, rather than actual fact, coupled with Stephen Ambrose's notoriously lazy history work that skewed portrayals, seeing such slights were numerous in BOB, thanks to the reliance on Ambrose's book. Unfortunately BOB gave him short shrift as a result.

@KOHTAOMURDERSDEATHISLAND Ай бұрын

Great attention to detail in even getting the spelling of names correct.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

Thanks mate I'm working on it.

@bartbug1 29 күн бұрын

Is Sgt 'Wild Bill' surname a typo? I thought his surname was Guanere not Guamere? Is this correct?

@WorldWarTruth 29 күн бұрын

Its just the font I used (since changed) the r n together looks like an m. His surname is Guarnere

@basher5107 Ай бұрын

Band Of Brothers didn’t get a lot right but it did show how welled trained and dedicated they were to each other and there country,usually if a “true story” is interesting you might go a step further and read the book to get the full picture your never gonna cover an entire platoon let alone regiment in a ten episode mini series

@GravesRWFiA Ай бұрын

for medals the commander of the 101 was well known for favoring west point officers to pad their professional careers

@scott3153 19 күн бұрын

He got a Silver Star BECAUSE he was Col Sink's driver. That's the only reason!

@WorldWarTruth 19 күн бұрын

They usually received Bronze stars like the aide who chose his Hotel in Austria. Silver Stars had to be earned.

@Ozgur72 Ай бұрын

88? Werent they 105mm howitzers?

@altonbunnjr Ай бұрын

Yes they were.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

Very good question. Half of the research I have done including the actual citations state they were 88's. The other half points to 105's. If I were to have a guess I would say they were French 105's but I'm trying to keep my narrative to official war records. The allies probably called everything an '88' as that was the best known German gun (not that it was commonly used as artillery)

@altonbunnjr Ай бұрын

@@WorldWarTruth Yeah just like every tank they came across was a Tiger.

@janwitts2688 Ай бұрын

They were 10.5cm field pieces.. if they were 88mm DP they would have swung one round and wiped out the attack.

@simonhawker9277 Ай бұрын

the tv show did these men's memory no great service, they dissed alot of good men, elite means elitist in the Army at this time

@terkish Ай бұрын

The guns were 105mm not 88mm.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

Yes as I mentioned in another comment, the citation and some official reports list the guns as 88's. I am of the opinion they were captured French 105's as you say.

@Taistelukalkkuna Ай бұрын

Every German gun was 88mm, and every tank Tiger I. Maybe they were so hyped about these.

@coloyikes Ай бұрын

I dont think this happened in 1918

@TheTM1Channel Ай бұрын

It didn't say that. July 9 1918 was the date that the US Congress approved the creation of the Silver Star's predecessor (the Citation Star), and authorised the President to award it. That's the date that is being referred to at the start of the citation.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

Yeah its the date of the approval of the award.

@coloyikes Ай бұрын

@@WorldWarTruth 1918 was world war one my friend