Private Jet with an Air Traffic Controller! Pompano Beach (KPMP) to Wilmington (KILM) in the CJ3+
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Күн бұрынJoin me and Kamar, the Tower Supervisor at Fort Lauderdale Executive Airport (KFXE) as we fly from Pompano Beach, Florida to Wilmington, North Carolina. We discuss the other side of aviation from the perspective of all the amazing controllers that keep us pilots safe!
Routing:
KPMP FEALX2 ETECK GRUBR Y299 SEELO GARIC ILM KILM
On this flight:
- Meet Kamar, a tower supervisor at Fort Lauderdale Executive Airport
- Seeing the ATC picture from someone who works it.
- Why he chose Air Traffic Control over flying
- Flow control going out of Pompano and Fort Lauderdale Executive
- Why we were taken off our departure procedure
- His favorite stations to work
- Working at Fayetville Approach Control
- Originally terrified of talking on the radio
- Air traffic control fascinates me
- Beautiful views of Pompano Beach, Florida and the Hillsboro Inlet
- Climb performance of of the Textron Citation CJ3+
- Watching your airspeed on climbs and your scan
- Step climbing out of Pompano and Fort Lauderdale
- Flying with a second pilot
- Where we both learned how to fly and work the radios
- Beautiful weather on the arrival
- Lots of landmarks pointed out in the Cape Fear area
- Bald Head Island, Oak Island, Southport
- Kure Beach, Carolina Beach, Wrightsville Beach
- Fort Fisher Aquarium
- Beatiful arrival over Leland and downtown Wilmington
- Cape Fear Memorial Bridge
- Battleship USS North Carolina
- Cinespace Movie Studios
- G3000 Avionics automatically switching to the Jeppesen Airport Map
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Our home FBO:
aerocenters.com/ilm-wilmingto...
Special thanks to Pompano Aviation for helping us out:
www.pompanoaviation.com/
Chapters:
00:00:00 Intro
00:00:14 Clearance
00:01:28 Taxi
00:08:01 Takeoff
00:13:38 Get to know Kamar, FXE ATC
00:16:57 Flying dual pilot
00:18:22 ATC Enjoyment
00:20:27 Learning to Fly and talking to ATC
00:21:58 Arrival and more ATC stories
00:24:44 Tour of Cape Fear
00:28:20 Landing
00:30:09 Downtown Wilmington
@aquican 4 ай бұрын
Both are so eloquent and professional. A pure pleasure to watch.
@AccidentalAviator 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate that! Thank you for watching and Happy New Year!
@mikecasey9647 5 ай бұрын
Enjoy all your videos, but having Kamar aboard and working the radio was a treat. Two competent professionals in the cockpit - an even better treat. Thanks
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
He's flown with me a few times now, but this is the first time I got to film it. It's definitely nice having someone that good in the right seat!
@ranmar773 5 ай бұрын
Wally, my condolences on the passing of your father. I lost my father 25 years ago and still miss him. Your landing at Wilmington was spot on. And the banter between you and Kamar regarding ATC was enjoyable. I love that you are able to spend time with your mom. You are a good son, a seasoned pilot and great editor. Happy New Year to you and yours! --- Randy
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
I am fortunate enough that I was hired by the company I work for in Fort Lauderdale. They have a lot of family down there and they are die-hard Miami Dolphins fans, so we're down there a lot which allows me to easily visit family! Thank you for the condolences and have a great 2024!
@flyinglumpy 4 ай бұрын
Awesome video! I flew from KILM to KFAY for my solo cross countries to get my private pilot. The ATC both here and there were great especially with us student pilots. Thanks again for doing these videos and my condolences to you and your family on the passing of your father.
@AccidentalAviator 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate the condolences. Thank you. This is a pretty nice area to learn to fly! I'll of the controllers in the local area are very accomodating!
@raccoonair 2 ай бұрын
Nice conversation; great camera work; thanks for sharing.
@AccidentalAviator 2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! He's a great guy and I hope to fly with him again soon!
@MrKevinH 4 ай бұрын
A great flight talking about some of my favorite places on the coast. Your channel is educational and entertaining!
@AccidentalAviator 4 ай бұрын
I think it's pretty interesting seeing all of the cool spots from altitude. Thanks for watching the videos and have a great 2024!
@M2KVideoProductions 4 ай бұрын
Great video, awesome take-off, and landing! I'm so sorry for your loss. My condolences!
@AccidentalAviator 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the condolences. My family appreciates it. I'm glad you enjoyed the video too! If I can answer anything for you, please let me know.
@carlkrason306 5 ай бұрын
Sorry for your loss of your dad. Always love your videos. Thank you for taking the time to share them with us.
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for always watching! Have a great New Year!
@howardcrumpler2298 5 ай бұрын
My condolences to you and the family and thanks for letting us fly with you!!
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate the condolences. Thank you for watching though! I'm glad you're enjoying the videos!
@itsyaboyj30myg19 5 ай бұрын
What a coincidence I took a tower tour with my flight school around 2 weeks ago and Kamar was the one who gave us the tour. He was telling us about how he flys in private jets with his friends sometimes. Pretty bazar that I come across this video.
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
It's such a small world, isn't it? I think he's done 4 flights with me now but this was the only one that I recorded. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@chrisstr33tkng61 4 ай бұрын
My condolences to you about your father. I fly out of JNX, fly to ILM all the time! I was just there earlier today. JNX is my home airport in Smithfield. New to the channel, subscribed!
@AccidentalAviator 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the condolences and the subscription. I appreciate it! I've been up to JNX a few times in my Arrow. Love the restaurant on the field there!
@KC-pq2dr 5 ай бұрын
Kamar should spend more time in the cockpit where he clearly enjoys. What an asset to the pilot community he is to be able to train new controllers to slow down for us a bit because he gets it.
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Yes! It's always good to see the big picture from both sides! I've had the pleasure of flying with Kamar a few times now and I hope we can continue in the future!
@cantstandtheestablishment4004 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video! Please keep 'em coming.
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
I did a bunch of flights late in the year without the cameras, but I just recorded another after the holidays. I'm hoping to get some with approaches over the winter months, but we've had some really strange / clear weather over the last year!
@timrichey8038 4 ай бұрын
Condolences to you and your family.
@AccidentalAviator 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate that. Thank you! Have a great 2024!
@HURRICANEWILMA 5 ай бұрын
Sorry for your loss ! When I worked at ISO AERO in Wilmington years ago they used to let us up in the tower during lunch ! I know a guy named chris that works there now .
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Well, please pass along a "thank you!" to Chris for always keeping us safe!
@easternairlines727 5 ай бұрын
Sorry for your loss. Love the video.
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Thank you on all counts! I appreciate you watching and hope you have a great 2024!
@TommyMAN15 5 ай бұрын
Kilo Romeo! Good dude. Worked with him at FAY. Trained me on radar
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Small world! I'm glad I had the opportunity to fly with him! Are you still working over there? I occasionally come shoot approaches in your sector, and I fly over you every 6 months on the way to Greensboro :-)
@firepilot109 5 ай бұрын
Good video and sorry for your loss! I though I was descent on the comms when flying since been on radios for 30 years on fire trucks and ambulances, but this guy is true pro, lol. Great job
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
He's definitely a PRO! Nothing like learning from the best! :-)
@emylrmm 4 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about the loss of your father.
@AccidentalAviator 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate the condolences. Thank you for watching! What do you look for in aviation videos?
@emylrmm 4 ай бұрын
@@AccidentalAviator i think what you're doing is fine. I can't think of a suggestion to improve. Looking forward to more of the same.
@ayyyejayjay 4 ай бұрын
You have a new fan! I’m a (newer) aviation geek who lives in the ILM area. Loving the content
@AccidentalAviator 4 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you! I appreciate you watching. If I can answer anything for you, please let me know!
@ayyyejayjay 4 ай бұрын
@@AccidentalAviator thanks a lot! Do you flight sim, too, or just real life flying?
@AccidentalAviator 4 ай бұрын
@@ayyyejayjay I used to flight sim A LOT when I was younger. I can't seem to find the time to do it now adays. That's a shame (for me) because I know simulators have improved so much since I last used them! They are great for instrument training and practice!
@sheldonstutzman88 5 ай бұрын
Nicely done! Thanks for the professional insight from both a pilot and ATC perspective! Love the no drama and practical conversation. Condolences on your loss as well. Have a successful 2024.
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the comments and condolences. I'm hoping to have him fly with me again in the near future. Thank you so much for watching!
@MartyBecker 5 ай бұрын
Another great video! Always a plus when the sides get to flip-flop; ATC experiencing the pilot side or the pilots experiencing the ATC side.
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! Kamar is great to fly with and it always helps to understand things from the other side! It definitely helps with the big picture! Happy New Year and have a great 2024!
@heatherrawls6015 5 ай бұрын
What a team! Bravo guys.
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
He's a great co-pilot! I'm looking forward to flying with him more!
@carlmclelland7624 5 ай бұрын
Wally, as my last video for 2023, you win a set of "Cast Iron Tires" for the Citation!! Since you took a controller along, I'll throw in a set of lead inner tubes!! When I was a controller I took them along every chance I could (most often guys I worked with). It's amazing when you give them the radios to work. A lot of them vaporlock because they're on the receiving rather than sending side. (In this case, you had a pilot/controller so it wasn't something new to him). The thing that I found got to most non-pilot controllers was their misunderstanding of the workload. In their eyes, they thought flying (a complex twin, for example) was like motoring down the interstate.... Happy new year, my friend... we'll catch you on the next one, next year.
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Carl, thanks for always watching and critiquing my videos! I honestly appreciate it! I've done a few flights with Kamar now and I love flying with him, and I love learning all I can from the other side! I'm looking forward to getting a tour of ILM and FXE towers. The last time I got a tower tour I think I was 15 and it was of the new tower at FLL. That was a few years ago! Have a Happy New Year!
@billfly2186 5 ай бұрын
Another enjoyable video with a great guest. I soloed at KORF, so I was comfortable with radio work too. Happy New Year guys.
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
I used to go up and back to ORF and CPK a lot, but it's been a while since I've been up there. I love the area!
@gezac440 5 ай бұрын
It always amazes me that comment on the land are said right at touchdown. Probably one of the most dritical part of the flight. But it was a good landing and flight.
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! It is a critical phase of flight, but it's also a 7,000 foot runway on a clear day with no wind. The CJ3+ doesn't have anything special to do on landing too (no reversers). I just deploy flaps ground/speedbrakes and coast down that runway. It doesn't bother me when the right seater comments after touchdown. However, I always ask anyone sitting in the right seat that there's no talking on takeoff / initial climb! What type of planes are you flying?
@AndrewTowne 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! Love seeing and hearing things from the ATC side. Sorry for your loss. Lost my father 5 years ago. It wasn't easy to deal with.
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the condolences. I probably wouldn't be flying if it wasn't for my father. Thank you for watching and have a great 2024!
@MarkusPea 5 ай бұрын
Happy New Year guys!. I am so sorry to hear about your dad. My condolences
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. I really appreciate that. My dad is who got my brother and me into aviation. Thank you for watching and have a great 2024!
@photogher 5 ай бұрын
Outstanding! My mom lives in Coconut Creek and I live near RDU, so this was a treat to watch and listen to your shop talk. Plus, the addition of Kamar from ATC. The vibe was great; looked like a terrific ride, and the conversation was interesting! (BTW, condolences on the loss of your beloved father).
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the condolences. I grew up down in South Florida (Inverarry / Sunrise area) from 82 through 2010, but I'm still down there a lot. Kamar was great to fly with and I hope I get to do a few more flights with him! Happy New Year and have a great 2024!
@W1RMD 5 ай бұрын
Sorry about the loss of your father. I know he was a great influence for you. This was a great video! I loved having Kamar for the flight and it's great that he's so familiar with that airspace. I used love love listening to ZJX on 127.87 when I lived in SC. It would great if Kamar would give us a tour of the controller end of things. As an amateur radio operator and an air traffic enthusiast I would really enjoy a video on that. Thanks for all both you guys do and have a great new year!
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
He's invited me into the tower, and I asked him if they were allowed to record, and I'm pretty sure that he said no. I'll touch base with him again once I'm back down in South Florida. I'd love to be able to have him put together something! Thanks for the condolences and thanks for always watching! Have a great 2024!
@W1RMD 5 ай бұрын
For what ever reason the FAA considers everything classified. Great job on your videos none the less.@@AccidentalAviator
@kmg501 5 ай бұрын
The skills/talents crossover is really pretty neat.
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
I learned so much flying with him. I'm looking forward to doing it again soon. Have a great 2024!
@tjkrone 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic ❤ great job men!
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! Happy New Year and have a great 2024!
@robertcorbin2749 5 ай бұрын
ATC is interesting. So much going on in the air at any given time. Thanks for another good video.
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
The next flight I have recorded (will probably be out in a month) was coming home after the holidays... I had a 30 minute ground hold (after starting) and wound up re-filing on a different route because Miami had closed down 2 departure procedures due to saturation. I snapped a few photos of traffic on the G3000 at altitude. I couldn't believe how many aircraft were up / they were handling. They do an amazing job!
@Noircogi 5 ай бұрын
That was a great video. Thanks for sharing it. It surprises me that Kamar says "with you". Out here in the SF bay area, the controllers definitely don't like that. If someone does it, they'll say "and I'm also with you" back.
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Years ago I removed "with you," "checking in," "out of" and a few others from my ATC vocabulary. That's not the easiest to do if you've been doing it for a while! That's kind of funny about the SF area. I was at Napa Valley last year. It's beautiful out there!
@kenblanton9726 5 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about your Dad.
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate that, thank you! I wouldn't be flying jets (or working with computers for that matter) without the opportunities he gave me!
@pauloazeredo4874 5 ай бұрын
Happy new year! Great video
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Happy New Year to you too! Have a great 2024!
@freds5619 5 ай бұрын
Happy New Year!
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Happy New Year! Have a great 2024! Thanks for always critiquing my videos. I honestly enjoy that!
@TypicalDutchSaysHi Күн бұрын
I don’t need air traffic control. I take my own with me.
@AccidentalAviator Күн бұрын
It was interesting flying with a controller for sure! I learned a lot!
@kylestewart3591 5 ай бұрын
If you ever need someone to handle radios when Kamar isn’t available, I’m 5 mins from ILM and willing to go anytime!
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate the offer, but almost all of my flights are from one place to another and then staying there. This particular flight I happened to be going out and back (from Florida), and I've know Kamar for about 5 years. If you'd like we could grab lunch sometime here in Wilmington?!
@kylestewart3591 5 ай бұрын
@@AccidentalAviator I would absolutely love to! Our office is basically right off the end of 17 at ILM so anytime works for me. Really enjoying the videos as well, especially from a local NC point of view!
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
@@kylestewart3591 Hit me up on Instagram or send me an email and we'll figure something out!
@freds5619 5 ай бұрын
Big crosswind component on your takeoff at Pompano.
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Yep and it was pretty gusty. Extra 1,000 feet of runway though and gave me time (on the taxi) to brief a little bit with Kamar (not on Camera). Most of the time jets/larger aircraft come off runway 15 at Pompano unless the winds are crazy.
@JCON631 5 ай бұрын
Loved it! Happy New Year
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Happy new year! Thanks for watching!
@gregdildine99 5 ай бұрын
Thanks as always for sharing! Does Kamar get to log SIC time?
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Actually, no he can't, and I think this is one of the sillier rulings from the FAA. If he was rated in the plane or if I was a flight instructor, he would be able to. However, since neither of those are true, and I'm single pilot rated, that means he's not a required crew member and therefore he can't log the time. It's a very bizarre FAA ruling that up-and-coming pilots have to be careful with! Another way to be able to log the time is if we were a part 135 company whose ops-specs required 2 pilots. My feeling is if he's in the right seat working the radios he should be able to log that time, but unfortunately the FAA thinks differently.
@gavinvelicevic1907 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video. What airport did Kamar say that he controlled at with military jets neighboring Jax ARTCC and Washington ARTCC.
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
Hey worked Fayetteville Approach Control. I can't remember when he actually worked there though. I'm not sure if he mentioned it in the video, but he's been down at FXE Tower. I met him down there.
@MarkusPea 4 ай бұрын
Quick question here. Seeing as there's a pilot and ATC in the same aircraft which headsets do you recommend for both transmitting and receiving lol. Which one would you NOT recommend
@AccidentalAviator 4 ай бұрын
I've only ever used two different headsets in my planes. We have the Bose A20's in the Citation (they came with the plane) and I've been very satisfied with those. The are perfect for this plane. I had a friend that tried the Bose ProFlight Series 2 and returned them. He said they were too cumbersome to set up, and really didn't work well with the CJ3 series. We use bleed air to heat the windshield and it got pretty noisy for him, so he didn't like them. In my own personal plane (a Piper Arrow) I have LightSpeed Zulus, and am very pleased with them. Although, I've had them for almost 10 years now and the cords seem to be falling apart. I'll have to ask Kamar (the ATC dude) what he prefers and I'll get back to you! What are you currently using?
@MarkusPea 4 ай бұрын
@@AccidentalAviator I'm currently gathering info for my training. Id like to get a set that come with a great reputation so I don't have to go through a few pairs before settling...but tbh I'm kinda hard to please when it comes to tech and will probably burn through a few sets before I'm happy lol
@Themheals 5 ай бұрын
You have no passengers? Is that a licensed crew member beside you?
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
He's sketchy at best :-p
@av8or971 4 ай бұрын
when i fly, i get annoyed when people say tree... its three.. just say three.
@AccidentalAviator 4 ай бұрын
The phonetic alphabet actually has 3 as TREE, and 5 as FIFE. It doesn't bother me when people say it either way. Thanks for watching!
@erichetherington9899 5 ай бұрын
coldonces your dad kk prayers likes here ty
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate the condolences. Thank you for watching and have a great 2024!
@157294 5 ай бұрын
“Nose Wheel Steering” is an item on which checklist?
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
It's on the Taxi checklist. Taxi item #5 on the "Full" checklist, and Taxi Item #3 on the "abbreviated" checklist, which is what I've put into the G3000. If I could attach pictures here I would! If you IM me on Instagram I can send you a picture of it! Thanks for watching and Happy New Year!
@157294 5 ай бұрын
@@AccidentalAviator The item seems superfluous. What is the “Response” to that item?
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
@@157294 Agreed! I've always thought: #1 it's a weird Taxi checklist item, and #2 it's weirder that it's so far down the checklist Which is why I usually respond with "it's obviously working." The response on the checklist is simply "check."
@157294 5 ай бұрын
@@AccidentalAviator From a macro checklist philosophy standpoint, the mere existence of a “Taxi” checklist is debatable especially in a single pilot, complex airplane operation. Just wondering if “Brakes” are on the “Taxi” checklist? But we could go on and on, back and forth for days on the philosophical purpose of a checklist, the content of that checklist, when to perform that checklist and then there’s the various human factors, CRM/TEM elements of a checklist. Now the comes an ECL, and whether any of the items on that ECL are closed loop (aircraft sensed) or are all the items simply open looped. The entire subject of checklists; when, how, why, who are topics as old as aviation and varies considerably from airplane to airplane, operator to operator. Anyway, I wish you a Happy New Year sir and safe flying. B/r, 157294
@AccidentalAviator 5 ай бұрын
@@157294 Are you a systems engineer? I'm just basing that on your response here. I'm a computer programmer by trade (not a pilot), thus the "Accidental Aviator" play on words. This system is definitely open loop as I was the one that entered this checklist into the G3000 (using the simplified checklist which is required for single pilot ops). There are some airplanes that use G3000 that have closed loop systems where as you run your flows it's automatically checking off items on the checklist, then you just use the checklist as a backup. Also, when you get CAS warning or cautions, the appropriate checklists are pulled up immediately for you (not in this plane though). I've talked to some airline pilots that say the checklists are even run for you on the newer planes. The avionics know what the issue is and can run the checklist quicker and cleaner than you (unless it requires deducing). I've also debated the brake check... as before start you've put the parking brake on, and I always release it and hold the brakes before taxiing. But, like you said, that's for another discussion. One item that is on the taxi checklist for the CJ3+ is the rudder bias system test, and that's a good reminder in case you forgot to do it. Anyway, we're taught "flows" now in the simulators, and always come back and back it up with a checklist. I have one of my previous videos where (during my flow) I forgot to take the engines out of TO thrust and caught it with the checklist. Had I not caught that, it could have been a costly mistake. Have a great 2024!
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