Thank you for the gift sub Corey. XD Cool to see a first time reaction 5 years later to the video that for better or for worse, changed my life forever.

I’m glad that the previous WR holder of this game is just as confused as anyone else upon first viewing this video. Pannen is such galaxy brain

"its the scatterbug we positioned" - ok this broke me, this was the greatest harrowing plot twist whatever I ever seen. This guy is a genius.

I cannot actually believe that I've never watched this video, always heard of it for years and just never got the motivation to sit down and check it out. FINALLY "QPU" MAKES SENSE NOW!!

15:50 by "out of bounds" he means something specific, basically a space where there are no floors defined; rather than the more casual definition of something like "somewhere you're not intended to be". It's what the "invisible wall" around the edge of levels actually is due to its property of not allowing mario in it.

This is what happens when someone destined to be a rocket scientist is REALLY into video games

The genuine look of shock at "I do build up speed for 12 hours" will always be a highlight to me.

"Now we can go back to the Video" "Finally!" "Just kidding" "FUCK!" Why did i laugh so much

The "release" part of pressing the A button does NOT 'do' anything. What Cheese is talking about is that the length of the 'hold' part is important, but Pannenkoek is still right. If you were to buffer out the press, Mario won't jump and a lot of actions change in the game. The "press" is tied to a lot of actions. The release does nothing.

It’s not the release of A that matters, it’s the length of the Hold, being shorter or longer.

“But first we need to talk about parallel universes” is so iconic.

Hey babe, glad you finally watched this! Not gonna lie I have seen it like 50 times in the past few years.

I swear this video is most often meme'd for "But first we need to talk about parallel universes" but really the stinger is the Skuttlebug returning out of nowhere with the *_steel chair_* to be the most crucial part of this strat.

Watch for rolling rocks is literally, unironically, the best video ever uploaded to youtube, in any category.

Hope Pannen realizes not every video on his main channel has to be as complete and good as this one, and I hope he understands that the memes doesnt mean we dont appreciate all of his 9999 IQ work with this game.

Pannen is always so good at visualing and explaining these abstract concepts in Mario 64. I doubt I would ever understand QPUs and the like without his videos.

Back in the 90s people said Mario is a kids game, he's not as fast as Sonic... Well who's laughing now?!

This video is a prime example on how someone can truly be an expert and extremely knowledgeable at something, but not truly get it 100%. But then experiences the mind blowing eureka moment when everything clicks together

Well now you've gotta watch Scuttlebug Jamboree SM64DS TAS by Adeal's TASes.

I'd like to clear up the question asked at 15:45 where there was confusion about the fact that Mario did not get pushed "out of bounds" even though he goes "out of bounds" in other levels, such as areas inside the mountain in TTM during Mountain Clip and such. The out of bounds that pannenkoek is referring to is actually not the same thing as the "out of bounds" that most people think about. Unfortunately, pannen doesn't actually explain this in that video, but he does have a series on his other channel, UncommentatedPannen, called "Walls, Floors, & Ceilings" that explains this in detail. I'll just summarize the relevant information. "Out of bounds" is technically defined as any area that has no floor beneath it. An example would be the area beyond the hills surrounding BOB, and this area out of bounds is actually why Mario can't leave the map without hyperspeed. There are actually no invisible walls that surround the entire course that prevent you from leaving; that edge is just all out of bounds. Note that the "death floor" that kills Mario when he falls off of a stage, like TTM or RR, does indeed count as a floor that prevents the "creation" of an area out of bounds. Because this is the way areas that are out of bounds are determined, places like the water in the mountain encountered during Mountain Clip in TTM don't actually count as out of bounds as far as the game is concerned, so Mario is able to move around there. This was a fun reaction to watch. I recommend watching pannen's explanation about the Secret Aquarium star; that one is also pretty awesome. EDIT: I just remembered that the explanation video about the Secret Aquarium is actually uploaded on bad_boot's channel. Sorry!

> be cheese > watches 4 year old video for the meme > actually learns how PUs work

5:21 he is right, it's the "hold time" that makes an impact on your jump, the act of releasing itself doesn't do anything

22:30 the representation of being 4 parallel universes a head of you. Love how this escalated from pressing A button being 3 steps to PU´s

"Bro you CANNOT get that star with half an A press" "Bet, come back in 12 hours when I've built up enough speed to hop several multiverses"

29:40 *Let me remind you. It was Mario that positioned the Scuttlebug there.*

To break down the modular arithmetic grid a bit (around the 18 minute mark) - it's clock maths. Knowing that 21:00 is 9pm is known in maths as working modulo 12. In this video he's using modulo 64 thousand and something (albeit shifted to include the negative values).

This is legit like the 8th time I've watched this video through fully since it released... and it never gets old. What a fantastic video. Glad to see Cheese's reaction, too!

All memes aside, pannenkoek is a legend and I'm so glad you're reacting to one of his videos, specially the 0.5x A one...had no idea you haven't watched that before! His other channel is a gold mine in terms of SM64 hidden mechanics, literally all of his videos are a must watch for everyone invested into the game.

The beginning: the A button press consists of pressing and then releasing the A button The end: so I'mma just hop over to some parallel universes real quick

16:10 12 hours and parallel universes 🧀: 😱

Pannen was one of the reasons I fell in love with speedrunning. Breaking games is awesome, and having that kindof in depth explanation for some of the more outlandish glitches makes it that much better when you see people performing RTA viable stuff, or watch a TAS

Okay so, Cheese, what a QPU is at 23:15 is... Say a bus comes to the stop every 1/4 of its route. ... and if a passenger isn’t at one of those 4 stops, it breaks down and explodes. So you need to make sure there’s people at your stop every time the game checks to make sure it arrives. Why can this bus analogy work for so many Mario things?

The whole "length of the press" or "time of the release" is literally the same exact argument just different perspectives, like is a glass half full of water or half empty. What I see the comments saying and what the video saying is that the length of the press is what matters in determining the height of a jump, which yes that makes sense and is correct. But what Cheese is saying is essentially the same thing, except he's looking at it from the release perspective. Say your standard A press is 1 second long. By RELEASING .5 seconds early you change the outcome of the jump, but this is literally the same thing as reducing the time HELD by .5 seconds. In other words, the video looks at jumping as "hold A FOR (x) amount of time to change the jump" while Cheese sees it as "release A AFTER (x) amount of time to change the jump". And before people reply saying this, yes I am aware that in terms of the programming and all that stuff, the actual release is not what affects it and is instead how long you hold the button down, I'm just trying to point out that it isn't wrong to say that releasing after a certain amount of time changes the jump instead of holding for a certain amount of time, because they are literally two sides of the same coin when it comes to gameplay.

The releasing of the "A" button may be important in terms of playing the game, but Pannen was referring to how the game's programming works, and that (and I'm totally speculating here as I assume Pannen knows his stuff) "on release" doesn't do anything. Letting go of the "A" button early to make a shorter jump is not handled by the on release part, but probably the game checking if it's still held or not.

Hey cheese, when you talk about the importance of releasing, dont you think that its actually how long you HELD the important part and release just the mere action of not being pressing A anymore?

I want everyone to know that creating this video was DEVASTATING on pannenkoek's mental health. He suffered and endured extreme depression and self-harm periods over feeling like he 'had' to create it. He feels even worse because it is doing so well, because it makes people demand more of the same thing. So please keep that in mind; he loathes this video and the place he went to create it now. And if you read his extremely detailed document about it, you'd start to understand why. Both why he feels so bad about it, and also how it came about that way; even from how he writes, you can tell he is trying to do and explain everything correctly and completely, leaving no room for error, to a pathological degree. I believe he must have some form of obsessive compulsive personality disorder. He cannot stop himself from HAVING to do the things he feels he 'has' to do, and hurts himself if he can't do them correctly, and to 100% completion. It is actually supremely sad.

"Finally, for simplicity..." Dude. You've 20QPU'd past simplicity long, long ago.

Me the moment Pannenkoek mentions the first example: Wait that’s outdated it’s possible to get there with 0 now (and has been for like 3 years)

I watched this live but I had to come back to see chat's reaction to Tj """""Henry""""" Yoshi again

When he says "there's no use for the release part" he's talking about it in isolation. Releasing early to do a short hop still requires the A-press.

I've seen this video many times and but it's a lot of fun seeing you go through the process of figuring it out and understanding it. The video is great because you always think "what's he taking about" and then he shows you with a diagram so it's p much immediately clear. I'm glad to see cheese for something out of it and learned something new, despite being very well acquainted with the game!

its important "when" to release... that means its important "how long" you hold the A button. so its not about the release action, its about the time how long the hold goes.

Knowing how much pannen overworked himself over what was meant to be his christmas break just to get the video done before he had to go back to school makes me sad

i'm pretty sure "out of bounds" in this game is anywhere with no floor for mario to stand on (or fall down to).

pannenkoek2012: "don't blink" Cheese: *NO ONE TELLS ME WHAT TO DO*

I’m surprised because I actually found it pretty easy to follow along with the explanations and found them enlightening myself. It’s strange to see someone else with an entirely different perspective since you’re a speedrunnner not be able to follow along, but since this was the first technical SM64 video I watched, everything was fresh and easy to understand.

"Tell me your boyfriend won't cheat on you without actually telling me your boyfriend won't cheat on you" - This video

As a Dutch guy, I really love how you pronounce 'Pannenkoek'.

He is right about his claim that releasing the A-button doesn't do anything. Let's take your example of jump height. The determine factor how high mario jumps is not when you release the A-button. The real factor is how long you "hold" the A-button. Of course you have to release the jump button so it's not "hold" anymore. But this is not what the game actually checks. It checks how long the "hold"-period was and not when you released the button. It may doesn't make a difference from a practical point but from a programming point of view he is totally right and there is a big difference. Since the most information in this video are explained from a programmer perspective, he is right about saying releasing the A-button doesn't do anything.

I got some awesome laughs from your reactions, Cheese. Love your content and keep going strong!

It's like the Stairway to Heaven of Mario vids.

He goes on about "releasing to do short jumps" isn't that just holding it less and not having a direct effect itself?

by the end i asked myself why he would spend 25 hours building up speed to get a star, but then he said in .5 a presses, and i died laughing

Hahahahah oh man when he brought up the scuttlebug again after 20 mins of hardcore maths/physics I absolutely died!! Your reaction videos are the best cheese! More please!

On the whole press/hold/release thing, Panen is talking about how it's treated in the code. The releasing of the button isn't actually what's determining the jump height. Jump height is determined by how long the button was held. There's nothing in code that says "when A goes from 1 to 0 do this thing" outside of it just being used to figure out how long it was being held.

No kidding, no other video on the internet broke my mind like that one. All the effort put on it is out of this planet.

We went from positioning an actor, to rocket science, to quantum physics and string theory, just to get a star that would take less than 5 minutes... amazing!!

Pannen has a video called 'Floors, Walls and Ceilings' which explains Out of Bounds in detail. Basically, you can not move there but you can have the floor behind Mario disappear, which means that Mario is now Out of Bounds and dies instantly.

Is this cheese’s first pannenkoek video?

Cheese sth abt PUs.....in big boos hunt in the elevator going down in that spinning thing if u manage to position yourself correctly you can blj while the elevator is going up and build up enough speed to get yourself in a pu... You can hear the music from the room with the spinning floor but u can't see anything.....

3:50 you could argue that in the cases of wanting to do a shorter jump it's still the held time that's the important part as that's what's controlling Mario's jump but it mostly just gets into useless semantics

Tj "Henry" yoshi Sorry I love this meme and wanna keep it alive

This feels like a legitimate educational lecture that should be preserved for future generations, this deserves to be written about by future scholars.

24:40 did we just figure out the secret of irl teleportation? 2021 gonna be nuts

this videos actually outdated. he cut off about 9 hours in an updated video on his other channel

this should be a doctorate I feel like I just watched a brief history of time

I'm glad that after all these years there's finally many reaction videos of that video. I remember watching it many years ago multiple times and having my mind blown every time but for a long time there weren't any reaction videos, well maybe one which didn't even bother watching it through. I love the video because it is an explanation of something which must be the most insane elaborate and difficult tech for the most insignificant thing, just to collect a star in a video game in the most ridiculous manner imaginable.

Pannenkoek2012 is a goddamn legend.

well i work in electronics and i say this integer and short makes perfect sense because if you count past 32767 on a 32 bit short it loops back arround to -32768 because of the way computers add numbers and on how 2's compliment works for simplification i will use only half a byte to demonstrate it so 0 is represented in binarry as 0000, 1 is 0001, 2 is 0010, 3 is 0011 and for is 0100 and addition in this way is really simple because like decimal addition there will be a sum and a carry so 0101 + 0011 = 1000 or in decimal it is 5 + 3 = 8. but this system has a tiny flaw because subtraction is considerably harder. but now what happens when we do 1111 + 0001 well the result is, it overflows and gives us 0000 back and if we do this for for example 0101 + 1101 so 5 + 13 we get 0011 or in deckmal this would be 3 and there is some method to figureing out what we add sonthe resilt is smaller, the short aner is we juat add 2's compliment. to figure out 2's compliment of a number we simply invert all the bit's then add 1 so ~0011 = 1100 -> 1100 + 0001 = 1101 this has the advantage, that the left most bit also imidiatly tells us if the number is positive or negative but also the disadvantage that if do 0111 +0001 and say the number is signed it would become 1000 wich is the binary representation of -8 anyways floating point numbers are a little different, these are like sciemtific notation in binatry so normal scientific notation goes for example 5.7EE-2 wich is 0.057 now we can do that also in binatrry and if we do that we can actually store numbers much larger but it will be less accurate anyways i'll continue writing this later

Pannenkoek: Don't blink! Cheese: *blinks* Pannenkoek: Am I a joke to you?

18:20 [EASY EXPLINATION] What he is essentially saying is that when you "code up" a videogame, it is made on a giant (x, y,) grid. Just think of a large tic tac toe board with many lines. That entire grid contains a measurement of so many units up (y) and right (x). When you go past the measurement of right or up you go into another "dimension", (A 'O' or 'X' in tic tack toe). If you move 2 times the length of the grid you go 2x the "dimensions" away. It is essentially a voided square. [THE HARDER EXPLINATION] *Floats and Shorts* are words used in programming to describe the length of the *precision* of a number (length of the map) float = +-1.0000001

I SAW THIS VID SO MANY TIMES how did you not see it until now??? literally the best video ever!!

Yo, i had never seen this video before, and holy hell!! What did i just watch? Your reactions and comments made it so much better as well!!! Im going to smoke a cigarette and let my brain cool off, my cpu is overheated.

I hope this guy is actually an Astrophysicist for his career and this is just what he does for fun

At 19:18 I was like "oh that's what happens when you fly through the stairs and end up standing in the void!" cool, I understand that now!

releasing the a button actually doesn't matter. what matters is the when not the if for short hops. if releasing would matter than something in some situation would happen when you release it no matter how long you held it before but short hops are determent by the length of the a press and you could argue that releasing triggers that the button is no longer pressed but its not like when you release that you go from a jumping into falling but you just no longer jump also the out of bounce never pushes you back, but rather wall have rectangles around them going into the out of bound area in which they can push you back and if you go past that in one step you are past that rectangle you are no longer in a area that pushes you back but you are out of bounce so you don't move.

love the frequent earth-shattering epiphanies when cheese listens to the words being said and then understands what they mean

your laugh on the scuttle bug rofl. it cracked me up

Your last vid was “Who finds strats for SM64?” And I think you found your answer with the god of strats himself lol

Ok you now need to react to Bismuth's video for the sm64 0 star tas

Dude, Pannen is legendary, this dude hyper-analyzes everything about SM64. He can probably teach the devs a thing or two.

Now I finally understood the terminal montage joke Jesus

when cheese said "mario's booty is thick sometimes he can't run fast" I lost it, he says it so calm and casual and you can just hear the rage behind it lmao I can't🤣🤧

That haunting music, anytime anything is explained I hear that music. Every time it plays, some fabric of my Mario reality is turned inside out.

I'm actually now impressed with the video now that I have some context from a person I know is good at the game that the contents of the video actually had merit. Also comforted that even someone as skilled as cheese could be left lagging behind at points with the video.

Pannen is a legend and he will always be. He has transcended the human brain limits and is letting us have a peak into his mastermind.

I just realised this, Speedrunner Mario VS Melee Fox, wasn't 100% sure but after hearing "parallel universe", it just clicked in my mind LMAO

Thank you for your insights into this madness cheese!

7:56 the context is "A presses for the whole game" : 1 A press in the castle + 2 A presses in the level the context for "A presses on single star" is 3 A presses for the level ^^

7:55 Hey, physics student here (said to emphasise the fact that despite this, I am willing to discard maths): The people in chat complaining about that not being how mathematical rounding works are completely missing the point. It is how the *game mechanics* work. Maths is irrelevant. Also even within maths there are other rounding methods. Four I can think of: 1. Round up (i.e 1.5, 2.5, and 3.5 go to 2, 3, and 4) 2. Round down (i.e 1.5, 2.5, and 3.5 go to 1, 2, and 3) 3. Round to even (i.e 1.5, 2.5, and 3.5 go to 2, 2, and 4) 4. Round to odd (i.e 1.5, 2.5, and 3.5 go to 1, 3, and 3) Different ones are used for different statistical tests I believe, often used to limit biases in the data. Each has its pros and cons. 1 is obviously the most common, but 2 isn't uncommon. 3 and 4 are rare, but are used.

Ive gotta say bro, you're very entertaining, keep up the good work!

my goals are behond your paralel universes

I think Pannen means that the "release" part of the press is not used in any level in order to save an A-press in the entire run. In speedrunning it is used very frequently, but when it comes to just saving A-presses, its not necessary.

I think that he is having more fun explaining the whole math and code than doing the actual trick. I’m the same. Trust me, I’m an engineer.

pannenkoek: for that, we need to talk about paralell universes. me: OH NO

This is the quintessential SM64 video. Cheese reacting to 0.5x A presses

Seen that video so many times. Panem is SM64 Theorist. So cool to see a reaction video

this video remains my all time favorite KZfaq video

Im so happy for youtube to have recommended your channel.

Watching this made Tenet seem straightforward