Ivan Floch looks to take down his second Pro Tour Top 8 in a row, but Mike Sigrist's Abzan Aggro deck migh just be the one standing in Floch's way at Pro Tour Khans of Tarkir.
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@Dylan-cm1br10 жыл бұрын
Ivan is so chill I love watching him play
@jazzyjay45952 жыл бұрын
Man this was one of my favorite era’s of standard. The decks were all so different. It seemed like every time we have Blue/Black control on video it was losing but somehow still made it to the top 8 with Ivan Floch. I chose to play a Blue/White control deck in this standard so I could rely on a true sweeper and played much more heavily on counter spells like Nulify (UU counter target Creatue or Aura spell). There was also plenty of cheap removal to play like Last Breath (W1) and Devouring Light (WW1). The mana base wasn’t the easiest with double blue being almost a necessity but the cheap removal being white but the upside to having white outweighed that. You could also rely on Elspeth both as a finisher and a sweeper instead of just running Pearl Lake Ancient. I won many FNM and Game Day events in a very competitive Ohio scene. I talked a lot with Jim Davis about the creation and possible evolutions of the deck. Ended up adding Medomi, The Ageless as a secure finisher to timewalk my opponent when I knew i had plenty of counterspell back up. Loved that deck more than any other standard I’ve played, mainly because everyone was high on Abzan and Thoughtsieze
@kaiterenless18889 жыл бұрын
I like how in the side board discussion Sigrist is whispering like he's afraid Floch is lurking somewhere nearby...
@skylar5257 Жыл бұрын
Ivan got me into control back in 2016 and always watching him play these games was like watching my favorite basketball team. Because of him I haven’t fallen out of love with control since.
@rami84449 жыл бұрын
This is a match of awkward facial expressions. Derp vs Smirk.
@LOLVAMPIRE1239 жыл бұрын
Ivan is such an amazing control player! Control all the way!!!
@Nkuilo8909 жыл бұрын
23:05 You can tell he was so proud of that joke. Probably was waiting to do that all tournament.
@hayleyberry34379 жыл бұрын
Mike Sigrist will be known has the man that changed standard ! Abzan aggro most played deck for 3 block .This game was the one got me in love with Abzan and built my first tier 1 deck
@AirsoftGunner35210 жыл бұрын
Mikes facial expressions drive me nuts lol
@Vardaris9 жыл бұрын
He is so funny I feel he is always like: "Well, look at that I may win... how interesting and surprising"
@replaylord64508 жыл бұрын
14:30 Segrist almost walks out of frame that's something i would do not the mention his "Woops" face as he stops
@GrandMasterKybok9 жыл бұрын
Three words I hope ivan floch will see, "Curse Of Swine." I use curse of swine with drown in sorrow. With bile blight in my side board. Curse of swine will end a ton of big guys late game and is pretty good early game. Just understand it won't "remove" the threat but you don't have to waste your big removal on it. I'd only keep silence the believers because it gets better with more mana. And dammit he needs some nullify.
@FeeleySkarin9 жыл бұрын
I just cant belive the "see oponents hand" ability. It feels so damn op.
@dreslab20229 жыл бұрын
+Hej Svej What card are you referring too?
@pirate0bloodyskull9 жыл бұрын
+David Smith Thoughtseize.
@dreslab20229 жыл бұрын
pirate0bloodyskull It's not that OP, information is a really important part of the game and if you can keep it safe or try to outsmart your opponent that way then you can start to become a better player.
@jayceehampton61217 жыл бұрын
How is it OP when you can make a deck that can do the same thing?
@peewee1309467 жыл бұрын
Jaycee Hampton its. Op because everybody uses it so now if you don't use it your at a huge disitvantage
@Asadarion3 жыл бұрын
hahaha mikes face when he started walking away xD
@YourExalt10 жыл бұрын
I hate hand shuffling so much ugh, I can't help but notice it. ;-;
@Riptose1310 жыл бұрын
its a really good tactic, however. You dont want the other player to be able to guess a card to be discarded at random and pick your best spell. If you keep them all in place, the other player might know where in the hand a card might be, and play accordingly.
@Archangel7298510 жыл бұрын
Riptose13 The flicking however is unnecessary and obnoxious. It is a tactic to break your opponents concentration but you can randomize your hand in a quiet manner and you do not need to be doing it constantly either.
@keithfilibeck239010 жыл бұрын
Riptose13 name a standard card that causes you discard at random that anyone plays.
@letchegaray10 жыл бұрын
Keith Filibeck Black cat...
@PhyrexianMetal10 жыл бұрын
Archangel72985 Thats not why the majority of players do it. It's actually a concentration tactic FOR whoever is doing it. If i'm hand shuffling when i'm "f6'd" on my opponent's turn, it isn't because i'm trying to disrupt my opponent's play; it's because i'm thinking and it's something to do. when taking a test such as an ACT or an SAT, those providing the test will often give advice as to things to do to firm up your concentration; little vices to channel your attention through while you are thinking by stimulating multiple parts of your brain at once. Hand shuffling is exactly one of those vices for magic players. In my case, i try to even get a rhythm going; but maybe that's just because i play and listen to a lot of music. I have to assume cards hitting each other is a pet peeve of yours, which is of course something you're aware of better than anyone, but please don't assume or lead others to believe players with real proven skill (not nearly including myself in that category) would have such a lack of confidence in their play as to use such cheap tactics. This is the ProTour. Pen tricks and Heart of the Cards don't get you there, and if they did, the people who are actually good at this game would very easily clean them off in when things really start to get rolling.
@pharmtekbobby9 жыл бұрын
"Life totals don't matter with this control deck..." and then....dead.
@TankP0wnz9 жыл бұрын
Meaning Mike's life total doesn't matter to Ivan.
@jpd61019 жыл бұрын
I, personally, think the UB Control Decks suck with out at LEAST two Perilous Vault. Without Doomblade and Ultimate Price, you can't keep one for oneing (
@jpd61019 жыл бұрын
I shouldn't say suck, I should say don't work as well.
@robotetanus9 жыл бұрын
Magic with out some sort of competitive control option is pretty bad.
@drop0ut6069 жыл бұрын
fortunately the blue black is very much a competitive control option.
@rylon308 жыл бұрын
Sadly that is no longer the case in 2016. Control feels dead.
@drop0ut6068 жыл бұрын
Control just won the pro tour lol
@rylon308 жыл бұрын
A midrange kinda deck that's heavy on big creatures and removal, we don't have a "classic" control deck with a decent amount of counterspells and raw card advantage along with sweepers.
@projectworld4023 Жыл бұрын
Is Ivan a Control Specialist? I always see him play this
@Turn2Ugin Жыл бұрын
He knows what he likes
@syntheticlegion9 жыл бұрын
2:50 whoa shots fired on americans
@Flowerman5579 жыл бұрын
I hope I'm not the only one who noticed, but Ivan was using polluted delta all wrong in game 2.
@Flowerman5579 жыл бұрын
Huh... good eye. I guess I missed that.
@M0th3ater9 жыл бұрын
Game one, around 9:30, he could have won by pumping the deathdealer with the fetch and plains and the two temples :|
@bariltrailette9 жыл бұрын
Why he can counter a mana cost three with a counter spell can only counter a 4 or grater.
@ThePnguin9 жыл бұрын
He didn't. He discarded it to activate the Prognostic Sphinx's ability. It did look like he was countering Sigrist's spell, but he was just showing that he was using the Sphinx's ability
@bariltrailette9 жыл бұрын
thanks
@dingding123219 жыл бұрын
lol poor Mike. he just had to play against Owen's control deck and now he's here in top 8 playing against more control
@Drecon849 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't Ivan block the vampire. Was he actually scared for Bile Blight or Drown in Sorrow? And even if he was, was he going to just not block for the entire game? Really weird decision.
@69Yosiel699 жыл бұрын
Yeah... He was playing around Abzan Charm putting 2 counters, but there's a maxim new players need to exercise 'Always Makes It Have It'
@SaucyNight9 жыл бұрын
i thought what was even more bizarre is that at 25:40ish Sigrist put all 3 plus one counters on his Herald. If he had put one on Herald and one on both rocs, plus 1 sorin and each would able to kill sphinx outright without trading, as well as having 8 damage get through no matter what.
@cat4luny49 жыл бұрын
23:00 Playing arround charm
@lightninghelix1999 жыл бұрын
23:05 mike plays urborg with ivans on the field legendary rule? it could have saved ivan a turn.
@christianhuang96739 жыл бұрын
legendary rule changed. Now both players can play legendary creatures at the same time.
@lightninghelix1999 жыл бұрын
ok that wierd tho theres only 1 urborg.......
@ghostware60579 жыл бұрын
So, I might just be ignorant and missing something really obvious here, but if Ivan hated that deck so much, why did he play with it?
@alexnguyen38039 жыл бұрын
Jacob Robinson Because he is one of the best control players ever.
@AeonAxisProductions9 жыл бұрын
no sweeper? there would be if he kept with blue white its called mass calcify
@TheMissthebus9 жыл бұрын
Which doesn't kill half the cards in Abzan Aggro
@AeonAxisProductions9 жыл бұрын
TheMissthebus well now we got crux of fate which is awesome
@alexnguyen38039 жыл бұрын
DeanGuitarsForLife! as a U/B control player, Crux of Fate is pretty bad. the fact that it cant wipe a whole board and is five mana is just so bad. Hoping Wizards makes a better boardwipe
@alexnguyen38039 жыл бұрын
ozfan6 The thing i hate about vault is that it wipes your walkers and my deck using walkers as win cons
@alexnguyen38039 жыл бұрын
i run 1 PLA 2 ugin and 1 Ashiok.
@TheKaneECO7 жыл бұрын
excuse me how could Ivan counter Hero's Downfall with Disdainful Stroke?
@Fatlord277 жыл бұрын
he wasn't countering with disdainful stroke, he was discarding a card to given his sphinx hexproof per its effect
@TheKaneECO7 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh I see thank you.
@andrewchan183710 жыл бұрын
Ivan floch looks like gsp.
@Thesunburntcrack2 жыл бұрын
Wizards...... where Ab makes an Ob sound....
@HardWorkingFamilyMan9 жыл бұрын
Floch's deck is so bad I could not stop laughing, GO SIGRIST!
@chayseedward531210 жыл бұрын
Noooo ivan nooooooo!
@KhanGarth9 жыл бұрын
he's playing Dimir colors and using Abzan sleeves....ok then
@beanh179 жыл бұрын
19:47 Mike casts Herald of Torment without taking damage from either of his painlands. And no one saw that.
@JakeTSloan9 жыл бұрын
Floch had an Urborg in play.
@SHADOWCLOUDGAMING2 жыл бұрын
I just don't understand the annoying hand shuffling in magic. The only somewhat reasonable excuse is that it doesn't let your opp know where your cards are but that doesn't even matter. It's just a learned thing that magic players do because they feel like it makes them look like a pro. Just put the cards down or stop. It's not hard.
@Turn2Ugin Жыл бұрын
It's a tick
@SHADOWCLOUDGAMING Жыл бұрын
@@Turn2Ugin It's not. A tick is a physical compulsion. Hand shuffling is learned and practiced and is 100% intentional.
@Turn2Ugin Жыл бұрын
@@SHADOWCLOUDGAMING i guess, just seems like every dude i know who does it is somewhere on the spectrum.
@SHADOWCLOUDGAMING Жыл бұрын
@@Turn2Ugin I definitely believe that but that doesn't make this an autism tick. I believe people see pros doing it and they want to emulate it and perpetuate it.
@SHADOWCLOUDGAMING Жыл бұрын
@@Turn2Ugin I know people who learn how to do it just to piss people off in tournaments.
@FreakyJellyFish10 жыл бұрын
where can i get the deck lists for this?
@benoitrenaud98009 жыл бұрын
www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=8286&d=247649&f=ST
@FreakyJellyFish9 жыл бұрын
thank you
@hansgruber16869 жыл бұрын
were are the temur decks ?
@Vardaris9 жыл бұрын
You won't see any of them at least until the new set, temur are just not good enough at the moment (which is sad actually)
@hansgruber16869 жыл бұрын
i liked them pretty much.....but well i am not playing on that level :)
@AeonAxisProductions9 жыл бұрын
does everyone who plays card games professionally CONSTANTLY SNAP THE CARDS AND SHUFFLE THEIR HANDS LIKE COME ON you already know whats there THEYRE NOT GOING ANYWHERE
@TheMissthebus9 жыл бұрын
All I have to say to you is Hymn to Tourach.
@ich37309 жыл бұрын
DeanGuitarsForLife! if u would play on such a high level, with money on the line, u would love to do that for the stress reduction
@RiddlerKeepz9 жыл бұрын
DeanGuitarsForLife! Basically, they do it either as a habit or stress release. Thousands of Dollars on the line, you'd do it too.
@Vizzztor7 жыл бұрын
Dude just stop shuffling the cards in your hand. Just stop.
@jayceehampton61217 жыл бұрын
Víctor de Croy Dude, chill. Can't change someone's habits. And besides, it's better to do so anyway.
@peewee1309467 жыл бұрын
Jaycee Hampton no it's not better a little ok a lot is just annoying
@Sarpro724 жыл бұрын
Thoughtseize and clones of it are so uninteresting to watch and rather irritating even as the viewer.
@modernminded54662 жыл бұрын
I get close being kinda bad from a viewers perspective as it isn't always clear what it does. But why is thoughtsieze uninteresting _or_ annoying?
@Sarpro722 жыл бұрын
@@modernminded5466 it’s been an insanely powerful card since it was released and an auto include in any blue/black control deck. 1 mana to view your opponents hand and take their most powerful or useful card is an insane effect, and similar effects cost 2-3 mana more. I recall on multiple occasions pros stating that the person who casts thoughtseize on turn 1 was just straight up way more likely to win. My playgroup has two people who use the card regularly, and for me it’s become one of those cards that just makes me sigh every time I run into it.
@modernminded54662 жыл бұрын
@@Sarpro72 Ohhh, clones of thoughtsieze. Thought you meant clone effects. Well, yeah, it's pretty good, I guess. It was certainly a tat over-pushed in standard, but it's a pretty fragile card in many senses, and one of the most "sideboarded out" cards in any deck that runs it. It's pretty important, though, in certain formats. It's one of those tools that allow durdly midrange decks to compete with insanely fast combo-decks.