It's all I run

Why is he getting hate?

@@lucasthybeck-soderberg3056 Because people hating on control are vocal on social media, especially creatureless control

TheMagicManSam woah my favourite KZfaqr! Hi

unless it's turn one and you're on the play

mediocremagic Consider your wish granted.

People are just bad at the game. People who shit on control are just brain dead players who dont have the brain capacity to pilot superior decks

@@coldturkey5333 Facts. The most fun & memorable games have always been control mirrors

@@ogtfromthefirstep1459 exactly my fav has always been Esper. Even if the sets don’t really favor those colors for example I still find a way to home brew the deck and have awesome matches with it

That being said U/W control is an awesome design overall to go with the theme of the Azorius guild in Ravnica/Return to Ravnica. The Azorius are a powerful government organization that "controls" its citizens and enemies through subtle and distinct ways. Red creatures are in your face and you can see how you are dying on the battlefield each turn until you die. But with Azorius, they kill you, and you can't really see why or how (until you play against it multiple times). I believe Azorius control takes a skilled player to play efficiently and requires skill and even arguably luck to play against. It is strong if played precisely and that is why a lot of people lose to it and do not like it. Wizards cannot listen to complainers because it was one of the most awesome design elements from the set to go with the theme of the guilds. Absolutely brilliant in my opinion.

I'm curious how this has aged 🤣

I absolutely agree cause I think that a lot

thats why i used this shell in a mill deck games go by much faster, huge life gains or i loose cause i didnt stablize, its boring but its ment to be that way

Floch activated it in response to taking damage so he gained 5 then lost 3

Surrender

John Smith not when you play 8 wrath effects

John Smith Counter-spells aren't affected by shroud, since the spell isn't in play yet. Wrath effects like Supreme Verdict and Planar Cleansing aren't countered by shroud since they do not 'target' any specific creature, they just state that the creatures die. :o

It's not broken. But it is basically the best spell you can cast late game right now. I also don't understand why Wizards would keep the same control shell around for 2 years now. We've seen Esper control for so long just because the RtR Uw Cards were so strong. They didn't do anything against control...

Control was always a contender for the last 2 years. It's not an oppressive deck or destroying standard or shit like that. It's just been the same for the last 2 years

A broken card is a card that defines a format and needs to be banned! If you don't like to play with and against control decks, that's your opinion, but nothing more than that... You can see a lot more MonoBlack Devotion decks (and with better results than Revelation decks), MonoBlue, B/W Midrange, Jund Monsters, than Control decks on Standard... And usually there isn't a Revelation deck on the first place at SCGs Opens and GPs... It's MonoB and MonoU the majority of times! So, where's that broken card, defining the actual Standard format, where everyone needs to play it if they want a chance to win?!?... No one have to be a fan of Control/UW/Revelation decks... For those who doesn't enjoy it, it's boring, I agree!... But that's Magic! Deck types for every player to be able to enjoy the game! If someone are wasting his time hating and raging about a card or a deck-type that he doesn't like... It's his own problem!

Because aggro matches are over at turn 5. So the people who find them boring aren't bored for long. Whereas, UW control matches just go on and on and thus the people who find them boring have more time to complain...

He doesn't, his opponent concedes out of boredom. No really though, his opponent is denied all of his win conditions and he can no longer win the game

Estark k thanks.

Badaxian ivan also runs mutavaults so would have had him either way. Elixir of immortality late game pretty much guarantees the win

Matt Robinson Thanks, that cleared it up

Horizon's End (US) By build real decks u mean copy everyone else? sorry but i prefer his brews.

Callum Flude I can understand where youre coming from, but when youre in a competitve format, there comes a time for brews and a time to listen to teammates and pick better options

John Smith Maybe but it does lead to a dull FNM.

+Callum Flude (Thunderbug) It's the pro tour. Not FNM. The one time he went with his team's deck (Tempered Steel), he top 4'd Worlds.

+Jin Zhao Yeah im sure he did lol, but watching the same decks over and over and over and over again gets dull, and it makes everyone at FNM play the exact same deck almost.

Lol, azorius is what got me back into standard. Different strokes eh? :)

It's not different strokes. It's just u/w got three really good game changing cards that shut down most decks. I quit standard because the only three decks getting play were mono black, U/W control, and burn. I shit you not anytime I went to my fnm I played each of those decks everytime in about that order. I'm not sure what their R&D were thinking when designing rtr and theros.

Still not as bad as Ravanger Affinity with skullclamp in standard where that was the ONLY deck played.

Or Caw-Blade!

They are government, they are control. They are the iron ruling fist. They are the cops. They are supposed to be hated >.< *evil face*