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This was so interesting to watch. I live seeing people discuss things like this and try to build understanding. Thank you for still making content for us!

Thank you for another well-crafted video, Jubilee! I personally strongly agree that isolation is important in ultimately helping essential workers and ourselves in the long run but it's interesting to hear the thoughts of the two opposing sides. I'm currently only a third through the video and so far I can see points in both sides of the argument. Always nice to see calm discussions about these topics!

I see nyc please include us

@Ragini Bhasin, I was suprised by the statistic stating that 2/3rds of people in the US beleive current restrictions are appropriate, I was wondering where you guys got this statistic from ?

George C In the next sentence she was talking about anti-BACTERIAL sanitizer. Man...

dude i know right, im hurting so f hard ;,(, shes hard to listen to

George C Fr

The biggest BRUUUUUH

I couldn’t listen to her after she said that 🤦🏻‍♀️

Hahah love this comment

Students who wouldn't pass the class lmao

Best comment

^^^ this right here

@B3llet Truth Incorrect we are trained on analyzing research from the first day of medical school. It's not uncommon for medical students to have multiple research publications. A significant amount of physicians are at academic institutions where a large component of their training is publishing research papers. The misinformation about medical education is astounding to me.

Best comment.

underrated comment

R/rareinsults

Lmao

And her real name has to be Karen

Agreed!

YES!

Yes!!!!

Why doesn’t this have more likes

Totally agree, I think public perception has changed quite a bit.

"Its like sending someone to prove their guilty to prove their guilty"

@@janelhuerta1152 lmao

innocent until Proven guilty? What is the point of a judicial system if there's a bias in place before a trial starts.

She said "send them to prison" not trial

You misquoted her she said “send someone on trial to prison” delete this

So everybody should get a test every week?

I caught that too, but I did appreciate that she admitted to not knowing something, and genuinely wanted to learn. I feel like people on her side of things, are rarely open to alternative opinions. They're usually "strong and wrong."

nenew24 We can’t even have the “how many tests a week” talk yet because we don’t even have enough tests to give everyone one once.

@@swbug9 But it doesn't matter if we do, you can get tested today and get infected tomorrow plus not know for 2 weeks Test aren't going to cure anything

nenew24 We won’t need to get a test ever week if both the sick and healthy stay home

I don’t care if I get covid it’s just a flu. Give me back my liberty. My freedom doesn’t end where your fear begins

Jake you can think that just please tell me you’re wearing a mask and at least kind of trying to quarantine.

Brody Penn nope I don’t wear masks nor am I in quarantine. I guess I’m not going to clubs or anything like that because they are closed but I don’t social distance from anyone or wear a tyrannical mask when I enter stores

@@jake4297 pretty selfish

@@barnacles1352 how am i selfish their is no pandemic

Someone clearly failed history class. My freedom doesn’t end where your fear begins

@@jake4297 so lock down for the safety of humanity as a whole is violating your rights? Your freedom? Like that's the most selfish thing to say. We are in a pandemic together and see to stick together and go through it, lock down is a preventive measure to safe people and Ur complaining about your freedom? The only reason it's locked down cuz of YOUR safety else if the government stops it then basically everyone will get infected cuz wearing a mask is now violating Ur rights somehow. Then let's see what happens. And before u say "Ur just saying that cuz Ur not having a hard time" trust me I am. Infact I would want the lockdown to be over with but I don't complain because I know other people will face trouble if lockdown was lifted

tehnoobleader tell anyone from Russia, North Korea, China or Cuba that freedom is selfish. Covid is not the Spanish flu it’s no worse then the season flu

tehnoobleader Sweden had no lockdown and little masks and they dealt with Covid better then many other western countries

@@jake4297 but it's still killing people

Stephanie O listening to Julia speak irritated me. She’s extremely clueless when it comes to this virus. It’s really aggravating hearing my country’s people be this selfish about other people’s well-being.

Seems like that kind of person who get's her Starbucks coffee too hot and then makes a scene for upcoming 20 minutes.

Julia is the new Karen.

Rigggght

realpopv2 :3 Well there is a bunch of “Julia’s” in America so I dont think there is a solution to that..

Thought she was pretty damn attractive at first but when I heard that, her attractiveness went down a lot lol.

Coolbunny203 frrr

My counter to the blondes first argument Better gas it up and make people aware of the risks than make it sound like a flu and let people die Either way this was bound to happen natural selection at its finest

Kyle Dattner At around 10:09

then said the government mandating a quarantine / self isolation period was related to innocent until proven guilty & compared it to being put in prison. she’s not the brightest. 😭🤭

Both of the doctors on the pro lockdown side clearly knew what they were saying

@@endedera9758 this can be seen as bias because there are definitely Anti-Lockdown doctors all over the world they could have found

Peace stfu and stop making this political

It’s been political the whole time though.

Keniya I didn’t mean for it to sound racist 😭I’m sorry if it came out like that it’s just the he explained everything in the best way and I didn’t know his name so I just described him as the African American doctor who actually knew what he was talking about unlike the other idiots 😔 I’m sorry again

Thank you, this Texan is with you on that

I live in Texas and we are not in lockdown soi don't know what your talking about cuz it ain't great.

As a Julia, we don’t claim this Julia

@@ene3478 Texan Army hell yee 💜

@@AlisUnicornFarm hey 😍💜

Ty Meadors exactly what’s she not getting through her THICK SKULL you don’t show symptoms when you first get it and others can have very mild symptoms throughout so you may appear healthy but are actually carrying and spreading the disease

And when are police men trained physicians to judge is someone is sick or not?? Lmao even physicians can’t diagnose it without doing the official test

You can be contagious for up to 2 weeks before you show symptoms. 2 weeks. In a densely populated area, image how many you could infect in the span of 2 weeks? Just putting sick people in quarantine is not good enough.

The fallaciousness of her argument is hilarious

D Kait I tried so hard to listen to her and find something in her arguments that I could agree with, but I just couldn’t do it lol. And it’s like she smiled while saying everything so you’d feel more inclined to agree with her

America is a good country with constitutional rights but the people here are spoiled. And very individualistic.

Lisa H agreed

We only care about money and power

Agreed

The whole county is just shitty tbh

Sweden had no lockdown or masks and their cases have gone way down

@@jake4297 yet america has way more cause it has degenerates like you

@@barnacles1352 I'm not American but America doesn't have that many cases all the flu cases, many common colds and another illness count as covid among lots of false positives. The NFL tested 77 positive players but not 1 of them or anyone in their family showed symptoms

@@jake4297 haha There are 1255 new cases of the coronavirus in Sweden as of 22 October. There are at least 111k total cases in Sweden and 5933 deaths due to Covid-19. Whereas (I shall use another Nordic country) in Denmark, there are 763 new cases, adding to the total amount of 38622 cases as of 22 October. There are 697 deaths due to the coronavirus. If you compare these 2 countries, there is quite a difference. Although it can't be compared to USA, with a staggering amount of 8.5 million total cases and 75064 new cases. I think, if Sweden introduced lockdown/self isolation, the amount of cases could be way less So no✨. I can agree that in September, the cases were lower than expected, but now in late October, I think you can see my concern with the way they're dealing with it

@@kodzukomi3008 yes but these numbers only show deaths. Cases their is no way to know accurately. This is not counting the mass depression, suicide, drugs, alcohol, sibling/child/spousal abuse, or an economic recession

Listen... YOU just don’t understand lol

Me: why is the flu rates so low? People like you: cuz we’ve been social distancing and wearing masks Me: why is corona rates so high? People like you: cause no body is social distancing and wearing masks!

@@_ryry11 It’s because corona virus spreads easier than the flu. So we have been social distancing enough so it doesn’t spread the flu but not enough to not spread corona virus.

@@lilipoerzgen7613 yessss u understand.

prove it.

I agree but I thought it was funny when he said he has to wonder about everyone having Covid because of his specialty and then saying everyone judges him on whether he has been in contact .Plus the antibody testing for everyone that is just not going to happen don't know what he was thinking there.

@@rwilson9759 I don't understand tour point. He's a doctor, he HAS to wonder if everyone has been in contact with the virus but he was discussing people treating him differently (see discrimination) based on being in contact with potential carriers. Thinking vs acting are 2 different things. Also, he said the government wasn't doing a good job because they didn't provide enough tests. You shouldn't shrug off the government's incompetence with dealing with the virus, you should be pushing them to do more like he is.

R Wilson how? Both things can be true he’s a doctor so he has to follow protocol can’t just take patients and act like covid ain’t happening. And I’m pretty sure last year this time people weren’t constantly asking him if he was in a covid room I don’t think he was necessarily blaming them for it 🤷🏾‍♂️.

@@allisonsmith9343 Maybe it's just me but I feel like that's kind of a back handed compliment lol. Like he's a doctor, of course he would be well spoken.

MooMilkMilk I think they mean well spoken as in he got his points across very well and thoroughly. You can be educated and know everything about a subject or topic but depending on the person speaking the articulation of speech varies.

Even if you dont have it on you're being tracked there's like now way out of the government having your location other than living off-grid which in majorly unavailable to most. When he said that I was bro have you heard of Snowden.

I remember watching it & the flat earthers called the SCIENTISTS, who went to school and have a DEGREE, uneducated.

@@phoenixtorres4117 imagine being a scientist and being called by dan the water man, soccer mom, and the other one uneducated, honestly im not in america and other vietnamese said that america is a joke lol

@@maiantran1379" *dan the water man* " *I-*

@Gary Winthorp cuz vaccination saves lives, go study your 7th science grade text book

@Gary Winthorp it's saves lives, not everyone can take vaccines and if I have taken one I most probably won't have the illness to pass on

No different than the baseball-capped flat earthers who argue with actual Geologists, Astronomers, and Astrophysicists...about science and the shape of Earth. Ignorance, it seems, is in vogue and idiots give "random KZfaq vid" the same weight as someone who is actually educated.

Imagine being bold enough to criticize other people while not knowing the correct word for “pulmonologist.”

They literally spent a good portion of their life studying that and they have the audacity to argue with facts from Wikipedia

classic dunning kruger effect.

What about the other pulmonary doctors all across the US that are anti isolation? Just curious what you all think about it? Like it's scary, who do we all trust lol

Cheese with no e Honestly!

she was talking about being sterile until testing positive. it's not that far of a comparison

Y'all are all sheep. I don't know if I woke up in another space time reality but I remember the swine flu of 2009 and I hope that's not just me. There was no need for quarantine when there was a disgustingly infectious stomach flu that made you unable to keep liquids down for weeks (much more dangerous). The virus had a lower rate of cases.... Healthy people got it, they survived and like any other terminally ill person when they catch a bug, they likely died. it's not rocket science and the world can't stop because of it. The end of a life is not the only tragedy

i facepalmed so hard when she said that

​@@haileyrafferty2372 The swine flu had a much lower death rate - about 0.02% in comparison to about 2%. It may not seem like much but on a larger scale that could mean hundreds of thousands of people. Also, the swine flu effected mainly younger people, which means their chances of surviving were higher than the older people who are getting the Cornavirus. Besides, this virus is more infectious, as the mean R-nought value (how many people one person would spread it on to) was around 1.46, as a pose to 2-2.5. This also may not seem like a huge difference but if you take this on a larger scale it definitely is. I personally don't think that the whole world should stop because of it. I just think there needs to be a balance between saving lives and the economy. The economy is so important because obviously it's what allows people to survive. However, I find just saying that others are 'sheep' and not taking proper precautions, as well as protesting or something like that isn't right either. All sides need to be taken into consideration, it's not black and white. I think shops, schools, etc. should open slowly and with restriction. I'm from Germany, and I generally support the way the government is handling the situation :)

I was surprised by that, but I would have disconnected too. Something about the turned off screen feels more damning then sitting

Okay so you know the difference between the thoracic region, the lumbar region, cervical region, and sacral region along with all of the vertebra? Or how to relieve pressure on said structures to help overall muscle structures that have tension issues that even muscle relaxers can't fix? Wow it's as if anyone can adjust their neck or spine in one go and be perfectly fine. /s/ You realize physical therapists are considered practitioners despite moving muscles and structures- a lot like chiropractors, that if you don't train/move the body a certain way it can improperly heal and not have full range of motion.

@@Wolfbitten14 The chiropractor in the video seemed to go against the medical professionals. He didn’t seem to understand how COVID affects the body and how it can induce health problems that aren’t obvious to untrained professionals (such as a heart attack which was discussed in 3:58). I feel like him referring to himself as a doctor, and not mentioning it was because he has a PhD and not an M.D, was kind of misleading considering... he’s not a medical doctor. Especially since he shared misinformation about the virus. The distinction between the opinions of a chiropractor and the opinions of an actual doctor working in hospitals to aid COVID patients were pretty drastic.

It can be dangerous, and reckless, because some people may not know the distinction. And they’ll just think “oh this guys a doctor and he doesn’t believe in COVID. So why should I?”

@@Wolfbitten14 i actually know most of that and i’m a pre-nursing student😁 no need to get offended, what original person commented is a fact. medical physicians and chiropractors are not the same. It’d be silly of me to make an appointment with a chiropractor if I had flu-like symptoms, obviously.

SealAwayHearts knowing how to correctly crack someone’s back is a long way from being an actual physician with an MD

Lisa Nakamura my mom is a respiratory therapist (she works with all the respiratory viruses and other stuff) she has a job where you are the main one working for the covid-19 patient’s. It’s devastating to see people disrespect the idea of self-isolation. She has to be around it a ton, and people are just selfish, and wanna go have fun. Thank you for your respect! 😊

Nobody is anti social distancing though its anti isolation

Lisa Nakamura think you dropped this 👑

You couldnt have said it better. He's superhuman

if he is a doctor, he knows what's really happening so shame on him, and i hope he will enjoy his money in hell.

The point is that because we isolated, we will never get to see that number. Therefore they can never be definitely proven wrong. I am not against flattening the curve, but I think that has been done and it is time to get Americans back to work.

We still wouldn't have seen a million deaths though

@@allenstrassel957 finacial hardship is better than tens-hundreds of thousand of deaths

@@ohok180 Not when the economic depression kills tens times more people then a meme virus.

Sulfur of the philosophers really? Did the lockdown killed 600 thousands people?

Well it is basically house arrest 🙄

I feel like you think you made a point when you really didn't at all.

the majority of people in jail are actually not convicted yet, they're awaiting trial. It's sad to know that the criminal justice system is actually complete injustice.

So not being sick, and being forced to be in your house, or risk police arresting you if you leave, IS being sent to jail without trial. How the hell is it not???

She did and you haven’t proven that this was a false equivalency. All you did was just state an observation we all ready saw.

Preach 🙏

Every single thing Julia said either exactly explained why self isolation is a good and necessary thing or just entirely missed the point on how viruses work

actually, when they say "flatten the curve" they're talking about the people who go to hospitals. quarantine was never meant to lower the amount of deaths/cases, but simply lower the burden that the healthcare system had to take on

@@venox2729 lower the burden on hospitals lowers the number of deaths significantly

@@venox2729 It's not one or the other. Both are part of the benefits of isolation

Christian Hernandez lmfaoooo

I think they want to lift the quarantine in Michigan.

@@SaulBedMan Obviously everyone wants quarantine to be over but she was comparing Sweden's course of action to the United States but clearly stated that she was actually comparing it to solely Michigan. So it seemed like yes Michigan may match Sweden and how they were doing good but not everywhere in the United States is doing well.

@@catherine-os4uh so it is probably ok for them to open up more. There shouldnt be a country wide quarantine. Quarantine should be more localised. But opening most businesses and telling them to run in half capacity would still have them losing money. Some businesses need volume to make a profit. But then again they should have the option to decide whether or not to open for themselves.

qwerty man qwerty man I understand your point but they are parts of the U.S that have opened back up such as South Carolina and North Carolina soon. I just think that if they open back up but the city or providence is not ready for that the businesses will open back up for a week or two then go right back into quarantine. if that makes sense.

Lizzie Allen is that sarcastic

@Lizzie Allen idk I was making a joke chill tf out

I mean legally anyone can say they're a doctor, with or without a PhD...

@@nick_434 Ik it was a joke about how chiropractors aren’t really doctors

@@Fennerdavid they are really doctors though. They no more about the skeletal and muscular system than regular physicians. Not to mention, I’ve gone to the doctor about back pain and nothing gets done while when I got the my doctor at my local chiropractic office I get adjusted and massaged until the pain eases unlike a regular physician

@Aldo Caprione because science and religion are not compatible

What does do they even mean God's in control? So don't try to avoid getting sick, God is in control, so you won't? Do they let God steer their cars in traffic too?

Godzilla no we just drive normally but God is in control of what happens

If god is so good for people and gracious, why let 21 people die at the place i work?... I respect everyone's believe, but i can tell you that god has nothing to do with it. People say god is protecting them but the truth is that health-care workers have 12 to 15 hour shifts to treat you. Where i live too, people ignore the restrictions, don't wear masks, think it's not that bad... But when their family dies we are the ones that didn't do enough occurring to them🙈 And when they get better.. It's God's will?

Not every religious person thinks like that

and then kills everyone when they realise it could possibly be of harm to themself but ultimately after killing the whole group turns into a zombie anyways

Mei Egoshi and it turns out she was the one who got bitten and didn’t want to get kicked out of the group

"I only got bitten a little, its nothing"

I’m sorry but I choked on my hot pocket reading your comment 💀💀

Haha....

Most Karens do. They're still Karens.

LOL I thought the same thing! She had this sternness in her voice of a Karen.

I mean, Karen as it’s commonly used (as you guys are using it) is a bit of a derogatory term. A lot of prejudiced people don’t feel guilty about their use of derogatory terms. Not judging, or rather I at least don’t mean to judge, just pointing out the hypocrisy.

Facts

Ppl like her are disgusting and shouldn't breed-- oop, too late

France is not that good either. It s better but... I'd go to Germany if I were you

Take me with u.

@A D we cant leave

Many-if not most-of us actually like the states. While we acknowledge it has flaws, we’d rather live here than anywhere else.

New Zealand is where to go ;) we aren't in lockdown anymore and only have a handful of cases and its almost summer here

fox news: hold my beer

@variety addict he isnt a real doctor

L C YAY BAE WHOOP WHOOP

L C YAY YOU ARE DUDE

Not really

My mom loves her co workers and that’s why she wishes she could go back to work. She’s a manager and everyday she gets text from them asking if she knows if they’ll go back to work because unemployment is so backed up that some people haven’t gotten their first payment. One of the girls that works for her came to our house the other day to pick up beans, rice, cooking oil, sugar, coffee, dog food, etc because they were down to their last meal. She had been cutting down her meals to half what she usually eats to make sure her daughter and dog wouldn’t go to bed hungry. The food banks are running out and the lines are super long. This is the reality of the shut down for us. It’s easy to be all high up on your horse with isolation when you don’t have to worry about where your next meal is coming from.

i’m buddhist but tell ur man God i said hi and thanks for caring abt all of us

As an atheist, I sincerely respect you for saying that. Thank you. Good for you.

Thank you! I’m a Christian and I hate how the media makes us look like we’re all crazy.

Yes!! I’m a Christian too and a nurse and I completely agree. Pro lockdown!!

LOL no

Agreed!!! Dr Cedric was the best!

Same. Even his voice was super pleasant!

Yep, I agree. Its almost like he presents himself exactly the opposite way our President does.

@@ryanmele8159 Cedric for president!

angels 444 !!! Literally loved how well composed he was. He didn’t talk down on anyone and genuinely explained everything so everyone could understand. Very good example for anyone watching.

i don't think most of us are wondering at this point 😂

no we don’t lol

Who told you that we wonder about that ? I can guarantee most of us know why

and where are you from? i'm not american and i respect the US more than most places. you laugh at them for having awareness of the threat of authoritarianism in their culture? they have the most liberty oriented constitution in the world, i am pro self isolation but i can at least see that they have a point, the government controlling people's lives to the point that they can barely go outside is something to be wary of

king tut I want dr Cedric to be my best friend he was intelligent thoughtful calm

As a Julia We don’t claim her

in AMERICA. THEY said millions would die IN AMERICA. you moron

This. This. This. I don't understand people who aren't grasping why we aren't in the millions yet.

How do we even know millions would have died that fast, especially with >96% recovery rate?

Tommy Griffin You do understand that the models were adjusted down early in the quarantine period due to incorrect assumptions on rates of transmissions and rates of death, don’t you? Of course you must. Because you’re obviously so intelligent and anyone with half a brain realizes that more than one factor affects actual outcomes vs. theoretical models.

juice34uncc of course there are multiple variables that affect outcomes vs theoretical models however I also think a significant number of people’s lives have been saved as a result of draconian measures put in place by the government. Maybe not millions but I was quoting the video, personally if only 50000 people died instead of 200000 I’d think it was worth it.

Was just about to comment this

People: Shocked Pikachu face

People 2 months later: ⚰️ coffin dance ⚰️

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The Pyjama Llama Loewen 💂🏿‍♀️💂🏿‍♀️⚰️💂🏿‍♀️💂🏿‍♀️

Which in turn increases the quarantine, how can some people not get this 🤦🏻‍♀️

I think that is maybe the worst agrgument I have ever heard

How so? Are you not presumed a direct risk as the justification of the lockdowns? If not then how is locking you down justified?

...the last part though, WHY?!

Its 800k m8 not millions

My freedom doesn’t end where your fear begins

Isaac Yeon parents have to go to work

@@jake4297 theyy can work at home genius

Or perhaps these are just three people of the many, chosen by a team that supports lockdown.

100%%%%

@@LuvThyMind29 could you please make/suggest videos explaining the logic and importance of the anti-quarantine perspective. Thanks

@@pn4075 The lockdown is sure to send our nation into a great depression wherein families around are forced out of their homes into the streets. The prospect of homelessness and starvation is a more severe one than a disease with a mortality rate that is nearer to that of the influenza. S. Korea shows us that there is indeed another solution - one wherein we do not have to remain on lockdown for years to come. And I say years to come because this is a coronavirus that will mutate often just as the other coronaviruses do. Why do you think that we don't have a vaccine for the coronaviruses (common colds) that have pestered us for centuries? They mutate far too often for them to be effective! This won't simply go away...even with the introduction of a vaccine a year from now. So, what is it that you propose? That we go into lockdown 6 months out of every year from now on? It is more sensible to heavily prepare for a return from lockdown. We must prioritize the production of tests, of hospital equipment and of PPE (for everyone!!). We can surely afford to do this if we truly prioritize it. With a flattening curve and with summer heat coming upon us, now would be an optimal time to implement S. Korea's model and get ahead of it for good. We could begin to return before fall with all of these items produced in surplus and with spacing restrictions around workplaces and schools. The elderly and the immunocompromised would remain in lockdown until there is sufficient herd immunity. Anybody that wishes to continue hiding away have the option to do so. They, of course, sacrifice their income...but I suppose some people in the country are so lucky to be able to do that for an extended period of time... Lastly, considering the vast number of individuals that die from car accidents in our nation, why have we not disallowed driving in our country? Frankly, unless you're immunocompromised, most of us are more likely to die from a car crash than from acquiring and dying from COVID19.

@@LuvThyMind29 if there is no lockdown more than 15 mil ppl are gonna be dead. Just sayin'

The U.S. has Record unemployment and just passed 3 trillion dollar stimulus packages that adds to our national debt. We're going to face a financially collapse if we keep going on this pace so it's definitely worth discussing. The EU could also collapse as their members economy are shrinking and since they use the same currency if one member fails it will lead to a domino effect so its not just an American talking point.

@@LongLiveTheFilmmaker That's wrong think sir, you are going against the narrative. There can be no other opinions on the subject matter because the "experts" say so. To bad the economic stress and potential great depression will do more harm to people then this virus can ever hope to do.

Economy and money can always be rebuilt from the ground up however difficult, but dead is dead, you can't compare money to human lives

@@LongLiveTheFilmmaker most countries are clearly putting people before money

@@alexanderadavar6439 If things get bad economically, people can still die. The point is to flatten the curve so that hospitals don't get a tsunami of patients. People are going to get sick regardless, unless we have an actual countrywide quarintine which is not an option.

Damn we need to tell all the Karen's at the blm protest to go home since there NOT SOCIAL DISTANCING anyways who's going to tell them..... 🤔

btsvt Fangirl most have masks 👍🏼

@@laishalmao9028 the vid is about social distancing not mask...?!

@@ene3478 it doesn’t matter if they have their masks

I have found a trend that everyone who seems to be using the phrase Karen. Is an actual Karen.

Get a better job. Work multiple jobs. Save up and go to college. Start a business. Start an on onlyfans. Start learning a trade. Become an apprentice in something. Invest. Just a few suggestions to help with the minimum wage issue. Not trying to be rude, just saying that if you're stuck working a minimum wage job...it's your own fault/choice.

@@jasonstevens9567 Not everyone can find a better job, not everyone has time to work multiple jobs, with how much college and rent costs even if you save your money you might not be able to afford it, not everyone has the financial stability to be able to start a business especially amidst a pandemic, not everyone wants to strip for money, not everyone has money to invest in something because they need the money to eat and pay rent. No one chooses to be poor. It is certainly out of the hands of several people, especially in such unique circumstances. There’s not a single person who would choose to work minimum wage.

@@jadastired I agree that it's not always easy. But it is always possible. That's an irrefutable fact. Opportunity is there for everyone to grow, make more money, better themselves. Even in the middle of a pandemic(it's damn near over now, btw). Out of everyone i know- family, friends, coworkers- the only ones who have had a harder time throughout the last year were the ones who made it that way themselves. Everyone else thrived. There was plenty of 'essential ' work to be done with tons of positions opened up all over the country. You just have to be able to look for opportunities and then jump on them. And don't even get me started on the college argument.

facts are relative when we know so little about the virus

@@criticallycheesycaleb6681 and that's your opinion :)

@@1MrFu Actually they're correct. Every week what we really know about this virus is changing drastically, models are adjusted daily. Whether we are benefiting patients by putting them on ventilators or not is still an area of contention. Which drugs are effective. One of the best things is we did not break our ICU bed or hospital bed capacity. Currently am a medical student and regularly talk with doctors on the front-lines of this. There is definitely a controversy in the medical community on how restrictive isolation should be. They should've had doctors on both sides rather than a chiropractor for the anti-isolation side.

@@mrfrankygification6016 exactly there are plenty of doctors and immunology experts that could actually give their take on it, but KZfaq might have taken it down since info might be against something the WHO has promoted.

Lemme guess, your opinion is the one that’s fact right?

We Stan!

MsDudette21 YASSS

i love dr cedric he is honestly an icon

Makchu Cook seriously

Dr. Cedric is comparable to Dr. Mike in their logic

As somebody who also lives in Victoria and has been arrested twice and released without charge because the arrests were illegal I can confirm we live in an authoritarian police state. The pretence that this is about health is over, BLM rally fine anti lockdown protest no way. Police outnumber protesters and arrest protesters for collecting in groups. Someone explain how that is consistent with health advice.

😂😂😂😂

I don't think I took anyone from the anti-isolation side seriously, they're all just a bunch of misinformed asses waiting to be handled by trained medical professionals

🤣😭😭

@@gamma_ray20xx53 Actually, you are the one who is misinformed.

@@RazorRyan100 Actually, you are the one who is misinformed

Cred Plays well, you have to “take it off” eventually.

@@User-pn4zz yeah, when you're on the ground, not when you are still in the air!?

@@User-pn4zz you liked my comment but I don't think you understood me. The virus is still going on, it's like we're still in the middle of the air.

Love this. Simplsh

i think you have to add that the parachute cord is entangled with your neck, so if you cut it to early you die in the crash, too late you asfixiate... continuing the lockdown is not a win situation aswell as raising it

Wait when did someone say that

In the beginning I was shocked to see a doctor among the anti people. When he introduced himself and stated he was a chiropractor I wanted to laugh.

@@silviasacchi9001 did someone else say that he is not a doctor?

Why the quotations?

@@rubyh.3838 probably a stolen comment

Godfried Doulome exactly. Alleged criminals aren’t spreading their crime all over the world. But asymptomatic carriers are probably killing more people than symptomatic ones.

Im upset that she is reproducing.

ugh i know right

right? that statement has no place and makes no sense in a situation like this.

Why?

Glad you guys are all okay. Stay safe

@Eridani Mendez thanks.

Angela You can see the female doctor slightly smile when the chiropractor introduces himself. We all know what she’s thinking lmao

I know I would

N Nkosi why would you?

@@kingtut7213 what is wrong with being a chiropractor? Great profession in my view although I dont agree with much of what he is saying

@@throykydd5003 Chiropractors aren't real medical professionals - it's a pseudo-science with no basis in reality much akin to Homeopathy or Acupuncture. The Chiropractor lobby just managed to anchor their profession in the public consciousness as legit - but if you ask any real medical doctor they'll tell you that chiropractic has no effect beyond placebo...

"InnOcENt UntILl prOVEn GuIlTy"

PERIODT my dad was tested 3 days before he was tested at his work, his first result was negative, and then when he got tested again the results came out as positive. Atleast he knows the danger of this virus and is currently self isolating himself.

And then she says she doesn’t understand the need for all the tests.

And then she doesn’t seem to realize that the restricted sick people will probably break the rules and pass the sickness onto the carless healthy people who would probably tale no measures to protect themselves

And the problem is that she then asked about why the doctor thinks it's important to invest in testing🤦🏻‍♀️ I was like whaaat?!

Shoot I stayed home for 7 years.

2yrs with my elder brother

Make it make sense!

its okay natural selection will do it's work on her family..

@@zaulvaladez7535 that's dark

hmmm yes, the hypocrite is made out of sense here

At the end of the day it's her choice to decide what is best for her

He is giving me cancer.

@@blazn0 cause your not smart enough to understand his level of intellect, go to a trump rally or whatever you do

@@Ghosty716 ok I will

@@blazn0 yes because you can spread cnacer

I thought I was the only one who noticed. He seemed well knowledgeable.

michigan is awful because of selfish people like her ):

It really bugged me when he said "I as a doctor who took an oath..." lol cringe

Being a chiropractic doctor compared to a medical doctor is different

Why are chiropractors even considered "doctors"?

@@williamstriker2299 because they have to take similar classes to understand how all the bones of the body work and how some being out of place can effect other organs. Since chiropractors can actually fix some neurological issues by relocating parts of the spine. Still, this wouldn't be their area of expertise so I get your point.

I stubbed my toe last night. Possibly due to covid 19.

Purified Drinking Water my thoughts exactly 😂

😂🤣🤣🤣😂

😂 Apparently his done research and on par with real doctors . I bet you most of them are anti vax as well .

🤣🤣🤣

My mom is a verified nurse practitioner and she is again self isolation 🤷🏻‍♀️

He's not even a medical doctor, just an alternative quack.

iM a ChIrOprActOr, gurl you work with bones

Chirpractors are NOT doctors.

You mean like Bill Gates talking about vaccines?

After he kept saying he was a doctor I noticed that the medical doctors started calling themselves physicians, surgeons, pulmonologist, (forgot the specialty of the female doctor). 😂 it’s like they were trying to separate themselves from him

literally

He’s awesome and he’s on Instagram! @drjrutland is his username and he shares really good insight on the reality of covid

Thanks. He’s here on KZfaq as well.

true she hot tho

Yes he does. Once you get to know about COVID more deeply (try to read the research articles), you will realize that the virus is scarier than it is known 🙂.

For real, I hate living around people like this;;

Eh it’s mostly whites only bringing in race because it’s true 🙂

PARIS NIA it actually is true. The entitlement the white girls in this video feel is astonishing

PARIS NIA WOW your comment is distasteful. Anybody can act privileged and entitled no matter what race they are. Also, race shouldn’t have anything to do with this. I have met women AND men of color who act similar (if not the same) way. Instead of grouping bad people into the same category as the good, how about we all just unite and keep race out of this? Once again, I say: ANYBODY can act entitled no matter what race they are. I hope you have a good day/night :)

malliecalliebby I meant what I said 🙃 plus I said MOSTLY

And your family, and access to the internet, and your phone, and electricity, and whatever else you have in your house.

@@bms2010 - They are also catching the disease at rates hundreds of times above people not in prison.

didnt know it wifi and netflix were free for everyone

@@Jorge.2004 WiFi will not be turned off in people's homes until quarantine ends and the people don't pay for their WiFi after that, at least, in the country I'm living in.

Not everyone is privileged enough to be that relaxed during this time.

Aww. You poor thing 🙄

We can't know if it did but even if it did, it likely won't save lives in the long run because staying in quarantine doesn't make the virus go away. It only flattens the curve. Unless a vaccine is developed which is unlikely to happen soon. Also if the economy stays closed people will die. They won't be able to feed their families.

HockeyPlayer Do you know why we flatten the curve? Its so that hospitals don’t get overwhelmed. When they do get overwhelmed, the hospitals don’t have beds for anyone and they end up dying. So if the curve wasn’t flattened then there would be significantly more deaths.

BlueDreamKush23 it shouldnt matter how many are dying anyways if people are dying

Hopefully a vaccine gets made quick else all this will be for nothing once government start reopening

No body ever died of covid 19

Same, i tried not to watch it because I knew it would ruin my day lmao

Same here haha

still haven't watched it....when will i ? IDK

Same here

ikr i thought i'd get triggered but this is an actually respectful smart and eye-opening conversation between adults. I guess we're so surprised because they're so rare nowadays lol

Well he's an ICU critical care physician! He's put in countless hours of schooling and YEARS of on the job medical training to get to his position. Respect!

also he's dealing with pulmonary diseases so he actually deal wit those affected by the virus and knows more about it then an OB Gyn would

the asian lady is also very educated as well! i really enjoyed their points

The Asian lady too

why do you have to call him the black guy and the lady the Asian lady

It's not real Love

Everyone has the right to stay at home if they want to.

no ones force you out to the public.

@@timestopsonedayyourlastone1579 what exactly is not real?

It's depressing that people have their own opinions? We live in a country where people see Christianity, Islam and Satanism as all equally valid religions. The liberals started the "everything is equal" trend. Yet, we'll see liberals defend Satanism while calling Republicans the Devil.

I would like to see all of these people come back now..... 3+ yrs later

Not wrong

I don't disagree, to be honest.

Exactly

@@javonijackson4642 oh how i wish it was that easy javoni

Trump is such a good president... woohoo......

chiropractors r not “doctors” tho. they dont go to medical school.

Hahahhaahahahaha

One of those is an eye doctor. If KZfaq didn't censor them you'd be able to find doctors that aren't pro-quarantine everyone

😂😂😂😂

Just saying, just because your a doctor doesn't mean you know everything

truth

no youre just looking for a way yo dis regard his status a doctor because he doesnt agree with your opinion

@@Jorge.2004 you're deep in denial, just accept the reality bruh.

@@Jorge.2004 it is fact that chiropractors made their own school so that they can get their own doctorates and be "doctors." Granted I'm ignorant of their actual curriculum to completely discount them but I'd be the first to wager that they have nothing on people with actual doctorates degrees and not just the medical ones.

@@Jorge.2004 Nope actually he's right. Chiropractors do not hold medical degrees, this is a fact that took me 30 seconds to google. Chiropractors calling themselves "Dr" is the same as sociologist who have doctorate degrees and call themselves "Dr". They are not the kind of doctors you go to for pandemic research/statements.

we are and it’s great, why you hating cause people here aren’t afraid to voice their opinion

We don't know how to think about what is best for everyone it's always only about me so sad

Exactly... and this is coming from an American. This video would literally not exist if Trump enabled mass testing earlier. Pro-isolation individuals even agreed with anti-isolation individuals that the ideal situation is to quarantine the sick only. However, you need mass testing for that to happen. If you can physically prove who is sick and who isn't, then you can just quarantine the sick - WHICH MEANS the economy can re-open. Everything could have relatively gotten back to normal quicker. But nooo we have this debate instead.

MXC yeah there’s a reason why collectivist countries like Korea and Taiwan contained this so well even without using Draconian communist level force like China 😬 yikes

Why do people seem to hate America? Even the people here hate America. It’s hard not to but I’d prefer if people wouldn’t assume things about me just because I live here.