That’s so awesome bro

That sounds like so much funny and I’m glad for u to get to have the memory with ur dad

Wow that sounds like a lot of fun, I’m exited for my first trip next year

I love when ride operators are cool like that, my dad and I got to ride the Riddler like 9 times at six flags GA because it was close to closing, and they didn't have to keep the line open anymore :)

this is one of the most wholesome comments I have ever seen.

Yes

Accurate 👍

This reminded me to get a shirt 🤣

I only know what they are because of playing Planet Coaster.

Soon as we all hear those words we know exactly who we’re talking about. Or just talking about block sections in general whilst at a park hahaha

If your interested I heard kings island has a fantastic work environment :)

I feel like a lot of parks have been hit with the unfortunate bad management bug, sorry it’s been hitting y’all too /:

From what I’ve read throughout the years, Management at this park has always been this way.

From what I’ve read throughout the years, Management at this park has always been this way.

@@Readyforit7723 thanks! I've been considering other parks, namely ValleyFair and SF Great America, since they're closer to my home, but I'm not sure. Great America I'm most familiar with but ValleyFair seems nice too. I'm on the fence on whether I want to stay a ride operator or try something in live entertainment

this is so true! 😂

sunglasses & maybe a face mask lol

i regret not riding it. the tallest coaster i rode before i went to cedar point was ride of steel at darien lake. a baby coaster compared to cedar point coasters. but it made me feel like a little scared kid again seeing how insane cedar point is. i did ride steel vengeance though. i dont enjoy being really high in the air.

I totally get how you feel here! I rode Millie for the first time back in August at the age of 26 after knowing about the ride since my childhood from world record books and looking up coaster content on the internet from a young age. I always wanted to ride it and go to Cedar Point in general. Very special ride, really hope that Cedar Point gets it together.

I’ve had so many amazing times on that ride! I love the late night back whip! I can’t stop laughing 😂 I come off with a big smile every time. EVERY SINGLE TIME!

Same, just for me it was at 24, coming all the way from germany. I heard that it was overrated and kinda forceless so I tried to not have too high of an expectation despite it being this legendary all time most wanted for me. I was blown away. It's been my #1 since then among more than 500 coasters I've been on.

Beautiful story. Millie is absolutely amazing. :)

damn

sounds like an interesting experience... I once got stuck on a rollercoaster called 'the big one' at Blackpool pleasure beach, UK... turns out they'd loaded the 'fast' train that morning... anyway as the train was shooting back into the station the breaks clamped down hard, we came to a very sharp stop but the train over-shot the breaking zone slightly because it was going so fast... of course this made the whole ride shut down and we had to wait 20 mins while they turned it off and re-booted the system... the view from the track was quite nice though and at least it wasn't raining haha

Nope nope nope nope. That long?? I'd have had a panic attack

This happened to a friend of mine. A lady on the ride freaked out and unbuckled her seatbelt on the lift which stopped the ride. They had to wait 40 plus minutes before a cart came up the stairway and they were brought back down one row at a time. He said it was awful and some small kid peed himself. Worse than that, they later saw the same women on steel vengeance! They didn’t even kick her out of the park.

That's definitely not how it works on magnum😂 I accidentally bumped my seatbelt on that ride and unbuckled it on the way up the lift hill. The ride just kept going. Thankfully I got it buckled again right when we got to the top. Especially cuz I almost fly out of that ride even with the seatbelt on!!

Ahhhhh I’m sorry to hear

Some of the dispatch times that Ryan showed in this video was the day of Coastermania (June 2022). That Millennium Force is now down to Maverick/Steel Vengeance capacity levels explains a lot. Cedar Point always used to try for elite operations and it absolutely does not hit the operations levels that Kings Island does.

Seems most parks are getting away from the personal load/unload speeches in favor in automated ones. It’s just so boring by comparison.

Yeah I agree, it’s boring. It seems they usually (not always) have an operator who hypes the crowd in the station in millennium, but when you come back to the exit station it’s always some foreigner who doesn’t say anything to the riders. I want the ride ops to be damn near as excited as I am to ride.

it costs more money to have a well trained crew. also, a great managing strategy, is to manage the staff based on the personality of the employee and using that personality at certain rides/jobs/location in park. seems like the managers at the park are not good managers. again, good managers also cost even more money then regular staff. on average, to pay for a better manager(each manager) can demand up to another, 7k a year more on average. also, a regular staff employee can demand up to another, 2k to 2.5k more a year. adding all of the staff total....having a full great staff can cost a park this size, another, 250k plus more per year. with parks losing so much money during covid......no way do parks want to then add another 250k plus more in wages per year. that 250k plus more per year, after just 5 years, the park could have had more cash on hand for financing a new massive ride or have the cash to out right pay for a smaller ride/kid ride for the park. running a continuous profitable business is so incredibly hard to do.

@@nexpro6118 "after just 5 years, the park could have had more cash on hand for financing a new massive ride" and in that time, ruined its reputation and see a dramatic loss in attendance. Paying an extra $250k for stellar service is absolutely worth it. That's peanuts. Cedar Fair owns 11 parks. Assuming Cedar Point (their flagship park) only gets 1/11th of their overall revenues, they bring in over $163 million annually. With 3 million attendance per year, that's an average price per guest of about $50 (coincidentally, that's their ticket price). Obviously, they make much more on concessions, parking, fast passes, etc. If improved service results in even 5000 people or 0.2% more attendance, that's a profit. Over that many LIKED this video. This video has received 214,000 views. This video alone may have easily cost Cedar Fair more money in lost attendance than you are suggesting it would take to improve the service. Think about it this way. People who travel to visit theme parks are going to compare them. And then they will talk about those parks with their friends on communities such as this comment section. When word of mouth gets out that your service staff are slow and unenthusiastic vs another park, people are going to plan to visit the better park. You lose out on customers and the customers you lose out on are likely the most vocal advocates you could wish for, who will now be advocating your competition. Obviously, it's not worth paying infinity dollars for stellar service. There is a limit. For a company making a net profit of over 268 million (assumed 24 million minimum on this park at my even spread analysis), spending 1% of their net profits to wow guests and improve attendance by even 1% (which would result in 6% more net profit)...

That and also more wear on components for the coasters. Less capacity = less wear and tear and less money spent on new parts.

Well Cedar Fair just made 310 million at the expense of closing Great America. So money should not be an excuse. Great America closes in less than 10 years.

@@jamesm7517 Oh wow I just saw this comment, and thought it wasn't true, but it turns out it was true...... I thought Cedar Fair bought the land and completely own it now, but I guess they still leased the land.

@@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan they bought the land 3 years ago from the city. and they're selling it because they now own it.

wait so what is happening to great america?? is it being sold, and will be an amusement park rin by a different company OR is it going to be something stupid and no more park at all!?!?

COVID has hit staffing everywhere. Quality has probably gone down at most parks. Even the big parks are having trouble.

Disney parks having the most trouble, i wouldnt want to do disney this year because it wouldnt be the rightful experience. Until they get more staffing, bring back some old free amenities, and also just let the crowds of people that waited for 2 years die down....i will wait for disney a few years.

I found that operations at Six Flags New England and Six Flags Great Adventure, operations improved a lot from 2021 to 2022. But I didn't visit any parks in 2019, so I have nothing to compare it to.

That’s how I feel

I figure they lost all the maintenance people and cant hire decent ones. Six flags is about 10-20$ per hour low on pay for a decent electical/controls technician. They just raised their pay to 30$ this year.

There is quite a bit of truth to this. I grew up during the golden age of coasters, I was born in 86 and started riding rollercoasters in the early 90s through 2000s. I think about back then, my home park Great Escape got rollercoasters 3 years in a row! They haven't had a "major" coaster added since Canyon Blaster which was a bucket of rust sitting in a field. Six Flags and Cedar Fair are much more concerned with their debt load and it's just a different time in life. Everything is so much more expensive than it used to be. The systems these rides run on are much more advanced. Then you also have employees making much more money than they used to make. Unfortunately I think this is just the way things are going to be, there has been so much consolidation between the major companies and I'm not sure it's been a positive force in amusement parks. Cedar Point has always been the gold standard of US amusement parks and I like to think they will always be adding major coasters and such but the debt load with Cedar Fair is pretty scary. Never in a million years did I think they would close California Great America. Reminds me so much of Geauga Lake.

This, plus there's been a shift in the amusement industry away from thrill rides and towards immersive experiences. If we see a Coaster Wars 2.0, it's going to be less based on stats and more based on combining ride experience and theming.

True, but cedar point also does need more food services for the crowds

@@SJSmith-vq6wy Absolutely agree. Since CP came out with the drink and food bracelets, people are spending more time eating and drinking to get their money’s worth.

This "they'll come no matter what" mentality is what killed Kmart. Yeah it usually works great for 20 years or so until your stuff gets outdated, the repair bills stack up and your competitors start offering a better experience.

Went to that park once and loved Superman

Wow 34 trains an hour, leading to a theoretical capacity of 1224 riders per hour, which is still excellent~

Hopefully they aren't dispatching that fast because they still aren't checking if ppl should ride or are belted in completely like when the disaster happened

By contrast, in the early 2000's when Cedar Point was excellent with operations, I'd go to SFNE and they'd be struggling to get 15-20 dispatches an hour on Superman. It's like things have kind of reversed.

ahhhhh that's no fun. That's cool you worked the ride back then tho!

Unlocked restraints? I suppose they still held somehow or was there no one in that car (luckily)?

@@danmurphy9173 the car was loaded when that happened. With how the physics for the ride are, I don’t think it would be very easy for someone to just fall out, especially if you’re holding on to the handles that are built in to the shoulder restraints. Most of the forces involved on that ride are pushing you into the seat. The only spot that I remember having any negative G forces at all would be the small hill after the first drop and before the first inversion. Not saying that the restraints aren’t important, more that I believe the engineers who designed everything built in multiple levels of safety into the design, and is likely why they didn’t design the ride to have seatbelts from the very beginning.

I was going to say this issues is likely more due to post covid staffing issues than anything else as this is not just a Cedar Point issue but covers the entire region. As I have heard, they have been having a hard time maintaining minimum staff levels, and the ongoing lack of international student staff due to Covid has not been helping this. This puts management in a bad position. First your running rides understaffed, which keeps the ride open but also lowers your efficiency. Management also needs to take a laxed approach and accept poor performance just to keep enough staff to run at those levels.

20 years from now we will still be blaming lack of customer service and productivity on COVID.

@@flurpoid it’s not how guests “have gotten” (they were always like that). It’s the availability of an option to work on spreadsheets, ordering systems, digital art, design corrections, codewriting, email fielding, schedulewriting, etc while in your robe on your own personal laptop, from the comfort of your own couch, where there’s no busybody middle manager there to look over your shoulder and run up your ass for having a March Madness game on in the background while you work, often for more pay. Given those sorts of options, why would someone choose to dorm in an unfamiliar city for 4 months, stand in the hot sun, or at best in the stagnant shade, get abused by guests, and run yourself to physical exhaustion trying to pressure those (often obese) guests to get seated and secure their restraints in under 90 seconds over and over and over, for a wage that barely pays the bills, all while a stock price minded upper management throws a fitola about staffing costs and tries to find excuses to fire anyone making better than a poverty wage? Ride staffing should be an enjoyable job. You’re literally in the business of fun. The way upper management handles this shit is a case study in tightasses taking the fun out of fun.

Six flags is having many of the same issues with staffing. My local park didnt even open their water park this year

@@PiGood I think you could be totally right here. I was there for the last couple of weekends and rides were consistently down, with staff advising windy weather made things too dangerous. But I think the reality is more staff / under-staffed related. A problem effecting virtually everything since covid. Hopefully next year things will look up a little...

True

I'm sorry that ur home park is closing 😔

@@coolboss999 Oh no my home park is Canada's Wonderland, which isn't closing.

@@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan Oh whoops I read that wrong. My bad

@@coolboss999 California’s Great America is closing tho so that’s pretty sad 😢

I’ve heard a few things about the old seatbelt rules. What did you guys have to do in the past?

@@ElToroRyan When the rules first changed in early ‘05, every rider had to be able to pull an inch of visible slack on the belt in order to be able to ride. Problem is there were no visible markings on the belts, and they were all definitely different sizes (including the test seat belt, which to this day I swear was the longest of the bunch). We probably averaged a dozen LG’s an hour that made it to the load platform but couldn’t ride.

@@ndbeltzies oh wow. Did you have that rule the entire 05 season? That rule was definitely not in place when I worked Millennium in 2018

@@ElToroRyan it changed to a 1/2 inch at some point, and then by mid-summer they installed new belts with orange lines on them to make it easier to check (we were using two fingers before). Dragster had the same policy. I assume it had something to do with the investigation of the death on Superman at SFNE the year before.

Last year, when I was an attendant on superman at sfne we had a ride night, and I noticed some seatbelts were longer than others. Which seat belts were longer were random, but if you paid attention you could tell which was which by the thread size on the red part of the belt. The shorter ones are all a lighter red with thinner threads and the longer ones were a deeper red, had larger thread size, and a black outer border of stitches.

Yeah, how is it that the flagship Cedar Fair park can't figure this out, and the other larger Cedar Fair parks have still been better than that of Cedar Point's?

Lots of this is based on our instruction and the new programming of the ride, which almost requires stacking. We’re aware it’s running slower, but it’s much easier on the ride.

@@alexphillips4325 Is it easier on the ride though? Easier on the crews, probably. You don't have to work at a higher speed consistently. But the ride was designed for a 100 second interval and a motor built and designed to run at the original 600cm/sec shouldn't wear any faster than a motor designed for 450cm/sec. Moreover, stacking a train on the drive tires and then having to restart motion would probably actually put more wear on that tire than just maintaining a constant force in motion. I just don't see there being any feasible improvement in wear and tear operating the ride at this reduced capacity. Moreover, if there IS an improvement in wear rates this is a cost that Cedar Point used to view as being worth it in order to improve the park experience. And deciding that it isn't still represents a reduction in a focus on guest experience at the park by management. I'm very skeptical in that claim though. If you're being told it's easier on the ride mechanically I suspect you're being lied to.

Yeah we are going in August and watching diamondbacks cam yeah the ops there at kings are amazingly quick

@@billchief397 And Diamondback has storage bins too.

I guess I got lucky with some ops that were really trying to send out trains quickly when I was there. At best iron gwazi was dispatching at about 100 second intervals

Pay them more.

@@mathewflaherty3679 BuT tHaTs CoMmUnIsM

@@SJSmith-vq6wy what's minimum wage from thirty years ago if you account for inflation? How about average upper management wages with inflation from that era compared to now? People have a hard time adjusting their brains to higher costs requiring higher wages.

Iron Gwazi has a really dumb dispatching system. The ops individually check each seat belt being fastened. Then the restraints are lowered and they have to check again.

I’ll have to disagree, I did 4 seasons at the park at the beginning of iROC, the park was already very safe the way it operated before IROC. Each season extra rules were added that didn’t do anything to increase safety, but they did everything to slow things down. It was frustrating seeing everything getting slower each season. Then I went to work for another park that didn’t have iROC I saw how they operated just as safe, just as professionally, more efficiently, and without all the excessive iROC rules. That’s when I really grew not be a fan of iROC.

I definitely see a lot of rides this past week pushing capacity(big shout outs to Cedar Creek and Blue Streak). It's definitely a huge improvement over what I saw a lot of times last year, where I'd be lucky to find another coaster besides Magnum that wasn't stacking a lot. I still think Cedar Point could do with some cross training at Kings Island. I rarely see rides with slow operation there over the past few years(besides Flight of Fear). I still can't believe that in the middle of the day on Tuesday and Wednesday, you could do 3 rides on Steel Vengeance in an hour. I used to be lucky to get a ride in hour an half(I'd usually prefer to wait that long for Maverick, which I like more).

There are a lot of good components to IROC, but certain measures such as locking restraints after gates close, visual safety scans, and physically checking magnetic gates each cycle eats away at load times critical to the ride's capacity. It's certainly possible to maintain efficiency, but never to the level pre-IROC. When the park operated safely for decades without IROC, and Florida parks still operate safely every day without IROC, is it really necessary?

@@sonic-cr3tr If only they had someone who could make a cool capacity and wait time counter that could also be used to easily compare dispatch efficiency to motivate the crews :)

@@victorellis8405 Disney did it on Expedition Everest. There are indicator lamp that would blip aggressive if the loading time is over certain period

I haven't even visted Cedar Point, but Canada's Wonderland probably has better operations than Cedar Point, and they get more visitors compared to Cedar Point. As someone whose home park is Canada's Wonderland, their operations are actually pretty good, and they have to deal with a lot of people coming in the gates.

Kings Island ride ops are super enthusiastic and are really focused on making sure the ride is fun even before you start. Many of the Ops are Enthusiasts too, so if you're wearing coaster gear from another park, they will notice and will comment~ Same with CP I guess, but I've had amazing experiences with KI this year. Hell the Ride ops ask me how my day is going when I'm waiting for the back row (There is usually an Op standing there), CP ops never did that

@@coastaku1954 I work at Knotts at Supreme Scream and a lot of our crew is quick but also really friendly with the guests and we talk to them when we can. It really makes the guests who are waiting long times happy and keeps people chill, it's also just nice to have great guest experiences. Good on them over there for asking how your day is. Nothing against the brick wall Ops but be friendly at least.. people are here to have fun, so make it fun!

@@MrBlonday The Ride ops at CP are also good, but not nearly as personal as KI, hats off to the Ride Ops with the microphone on Millie, they usually always have a bright attitude and really get you psyched to ride, they even tell you to make some noise for the Blue train for example, saying the train runs on noise, that's fun!

totally agree, as i used to be a ride op at KI. on a visit to cedar point i noticed that the employees were nowhere near as excited to be there as kings island employees, even though that they were getting paid WAY more than we were. i think management and morale really needs to improve up there.

They used to load fast passes from the other side so you came up to the load station instead of the line part where you wait until a few years ago. They really should fix this since you're paying an extra 120 bucks more for the fast pass on top of the actual 45 dollar ticket. Still a great ride though, but I agree on the wait times for fast passes. Though really 10-20 mins isnt a long wait so i feel bad almost complaining lol.

@@viciousxkobain took me 35 minutes to get the front row on a Sunday last month - with Fast Lane. As a result I only rode it once on my entire trip

Yoooooo wtf Jrgo doing watch Ryan, that's crazy

Yeah June 16 and 17 was my first visit to CP. Milly was closed most of the 16th and had bad operations on the 17th. Good to see this confirm my thoughts

Also, I was at cedar point on June 20th and that it was my first time there

how busy was the park overall when you went? I want to go sometime soon but I'm not sure how busy it'll be and don't want to go if its extremely busy

Do u mean Steel Curtain or Phantom’s Revenge?

@@haydfors Steel Phantom was the name of Phantom's Revenge before they refurbished and changed some of the track ^^

@@haydfors the Original Steel Phantom that operated from 1991-2000. It was converted into Phantoms Revenge in 2001.

i went to the park yesterday; this is not the case... ride hosts at all of the coasters don't care and will just buckle your seatbelt for you, or take over if you're still trying to do it yourself

@@protowave When I worked Millennium in 2004 we weren't allowed to touch the seatbelt or help the guest in any manner. What the Ride Op does at 30:13 would get you an operational, and if you were caught doing it again you'd probably get kicked off the ride crew

Exactly. Stop removing rides and replacing them with restaurants! Witches' Wheel was bad enough, but Wicked Twister is just too much to take.

Gemini is a capacity machine. I would be surprised if it didn't have the highest ridership almost every single year. It has a train that's 6 riders less than Magnum, but sends 2 at a time when it's busy. It'd be a really dumb ride to remove to decrease lines elsewhere.

@@frisco557 Gemini can be a rough ride. Specifically the stop. One day circa 2008, I was riding it with my girl. The final brakes stopped the train seemingly in 1ft. The sudden stop gave her some whiplash effect. She promptly started barfing as we rolled into the station. I quickly gave her my hat to barf into but it was too late for the girl sitting ahead of her! When we exited the ride station, my girl realized her shirt was full of puke and shouts to me "Give me your shirt!" As we walked all the way back to the car the park employees reprimanded me for going shirtless but quickly relented after hearing the story. Finally as I'm putting on a clean shirt she says to me "I can't believe the girl in front of us got mad at me!" I'm like "Babe, you threw up on her," LOL!

Doesn't quite work like that. It would be a better solution to fire anyone not meeting minimum standards. If the company then finds that the talent pool is too shallow to meet minimum standards, they then should raise the wage to attract what they need. If you pay an unmotivated person more for the same job, it is a fool's errand to expect more effort. Wouldn't you agree this approach makes more sense?

super true

They were paying a minimum rate of $20 during the 2020 season. More than any fast food place in the northern Ohio region. Despite exceptionally higher pay, that was one of the worst year returning dispatches, as explained in the video. So I don’t necessarily think you’re correct with how you think it would work.

@@TysenLeib at the same time there's no way in Hell that working like a dervish to maintain ungodly high operation levels is worth it with the money ride ops normally make. They could easily channel that energy into a much, much, much better paying corporate job.

why pay more for spooks who are lazy

Larger guests are also a problem for Magnum XL-200 from what I hear, and that ride doesn't have a test seat in the cue like the more recent coasters do.

@@JCBro-yg8vd I rarely see guests not able to ride Magnum. Cedar Creek on the other hand.....

@@frisco557 I guess it's because those coasters aren't as popular as Millennium, Maverick or Steel Vengence, so they tend to not be as crowded.

i think they prioritized staff towards kings island this year as they have been doing alot of gutting of attractions at CP this year

I think this is why they took out Wicked Twister. One less Intamin ride to deal with. Shame, too, because it was a great ride.

Nah, they were just got out from money Latest news is that CF already sells CGA for 300m over 9 years

@@bocahdongo7769 Huh? Cedar Fair isn't selling CGA

@@coastaku1954 yes they are. Breaking news todag

Intamins are not gonna last long at cedar fair parks, magnum is from a defunct company but it'll be removed after millie. I305 probably won't last beyond 2035 and dragster is gone, people who think otherwise are lying.

I was on the 2015 Millennium crew, I remember being told along the lines of “it doesn’t matter if you’re rude or whatever, keep the trains moving” and we absolutely excelled at keeping the trains moving

Why do you think they should have taken your pic? They aren’t there for that silly shit. They’re there to get people on/off, check for safety and keep the ride moving. They don’t need to be distracted by nonsense.

@@katkenobi6765 there's a thing in the amusement / hospitality industry called "guest service" and it's the concept of like... doing little things that help people have a more enjoyable experience. Offering to take someone's picture is a pretty common example of this concept in a theme park setting.

It is an amazing park still. Try to go at a time when it is not that busy, take multiple days and think about buying fast lane.

Couldn’t agree more

Banshee's seats are definitely more generous than Millie's. Not even talking about any larger seats(if it has any, I don't know since I don't need them). I've seen people that couldn't ride Millie, even though they seem like they should be able to. Heck, I only have an inch or 2 of extra seat belt on Millie. That said, I usually find Kings Island's ops way better overall at any ride. It's one of the reasons it's my favorite park even though it's 2 hours further than Cedar Point each way.

It's not a problem at Kings Island.

You're over-thinking it. It is all about the money, but what that means is understaffing, under-training, and over-working your employees. This means you end up with employees who aren't very good at their jobs, probably don't *want* to be good at their jobs, and end up providing an abysmal guest experience. Then what happens? Your per-cap spending goes down. Cedar Fair's per-cap spending is already pretty bad, and the worse the guest experience gets the worse the per-cap spending will get. As crowd sizes and wait times surge, the people you lose first will be the people actually willing to spend money in the park - the people you lose last are the bargain hunters, like that guy who ate every meal at Six Flags all summer and now uh...six flags doesn't have a meal plan anymore.

@@GerryRR Well understaffing ties into my point though... slower ops are good for the bottom line because it's less spending. I will say that there's a tipping point though, where ops being too slow creates a bad enough experience that people don't want to come back or they leave early. But I totally disagree with you last point. Long lines are a MUCH bigger deterrent to the minority group of hardcore enthusiasts than they are to the GP majority. The passholders are the ones who say "the lines are too long, let's get out of here". GP goes to a theme park expecting to wait in line. And they don't hop around to different theme parks to compare operations and they don't time dispatches. They just get in line.

@@wickedphant0m The park doesn't make money because you stand in line, they make money because you buy a funnel cake or a t-shirt or one of those bubble guns for your kid. And you know when people aren't doing those things? When they're standing around in lines that hardly move having an awful time. I think we're mostly in agreement, we just disagree about how much of an impact overall guest impressions have on their willingness, interest, and ability to spend their money in the park. I think parks with higher guest satisfaction are likely seeing higher per-cap spend as well, because when you had a great day you're much more likely to want to buy everyone matching shirts to remember it.

Millie and other rides at Cedar Point need fully separated Fast Lane lines, none of this Mixer shit. Every single coaster that has Fast Lane at Kings Island is fully separated, same with Canada's Wonderland, it's what lets me do so much in so little time, meanwhile at Cedar Point, I still have to wait in a 30min line. Maverick is fully separated and so I'm able to marathon the shit out of it, even when the normies line is 1hr+

@@coastaku1954 Yeah the merge points are definitely BS but they don't care, they will tell you waiting 30 minutes is better than waiting a hour and a half.

@@PHILLYCHEESESTEAK26 While that is true and it is an improvement, at other parks, and hell, at other rides in the park, that 1hr 30min wait is a walk-on with proper Fast lane implementation. I don't want to sound spoiled or entitled but I did spend a lot of money on my Platinum All-Season Fast Lane, and it sucks when Raptor, Gatekeeper, Steel Vengeance, Rougarou, Magnum XL-200 and Millennium Force all have "Mixer" Fast Lane systems. Hell at Kings Island, The Beast's Fast Lane line uses part of the Exit, just to ensure it's fully separated, and The Racer uses the Red Side's Ramp, with the regular line using the Blue side's ramp

@@coastaku1954 I absolutely agree, I have Platinum All Season myself and it is absolutely amazing at Kings Island. I get so annoyed at CP meanwhile when the line gets just short enough (not uncommon on SV) that Fast Lane is essentially useless but not a walk on still. It should be walk-ons when CP charges the most out of all the parks for Fast Lane. I will say Raptor's is pretty much fine, the station is right there pretty much. Magnum if they would just sit closer to the station all the time instead of further back to the entrance I'd be fine with that too.

@@PHILLYCHEESESTEAK26 Steel Vengeance Post TSA-ifacation is THE WORST for Fast Lane, that second Security Line should be a Fast Lane Security Line, they could fit both a Normal and a FL line under the Brake Run... but they don't... Also I've never seen Steel Vengeance be a walk on sadly... (Outside of Coaster Campout ERT of course)

They won't get a B&M giga when they have Millieniun, same with a B&M hyper when they have Magnum.

@@JCBro-yg8vd yeah I get it. It just sucks that all of they’re good rides have slow moving lines.

If you go to a store and offer to pay a certain amount for something and the owner says "No, it costs more than that" - do you leave saying "nobody wants to sell anything anymore" or "there's a shortage of "? Cedar Fair is offering a certain compensation package for a certain amount of labor, and the people with labor to sell are saying "No, it costs more than that."

I’m so sad about that 😢

There were internationals in 2021 and they have shown up more the last few weeks. Some rides actually have picked up the paces with dispatches, MF obviously not so much.

🤣 yea ok

😂🤦‍♂️

Also I rode Millie yesterday, thing was hauling