Tim Bradley - "ORTIZ GOT ROBBED, IT'S HIGHWAY ROBBERY"

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An in-depth analysis of the Téofimo López vs. Jamaine Ortiz fight on ProBox TV, covering strategic execution, judging controversies, and the importance of entertainment in boxing. Join our panel as they dissect López's performance, Ortiz's strategic approach, and the broader implications for their careers. Discover insights into boxing fundamentals, the debate over training adjustments, and a preview of upcoming fights, offering a comprehensive look at the dynamic world of professional boxing.
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00:00 ProBox TV Intro
01:46 Discussion on why Ortiz won the fight against Lopez
10:14 Discussion shifts toward the limitations of punch stats
23:12 Discussion on Lopez's approach to the fight
36:04 Discussion about the potential need for Lopez to get additional training
41:37 Discussion about Super Bowl and the relevance to underdog sports victories

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@user-ef1lc4bt6r 3 ай бұрын

Now Tim Bradley knows how everyone felt when he got the decision in the first Pacquiao fight.

@isaacfrancis2820 3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣😂

@ADRzone 3 ай бұрын

Well to Tim's defense, he did beat Pac on the first fight, even though I don't agree with him much.

@user-ef1lc4bt6r 3 ай бұрын

@@ADRzone he lost every second of every round to pacquiao in that first fight. Tim never came close. Kma with your bs.

@ADRzone 3 ай бұрын

@@user-ef1lc4bt6r I think you were watching something else, cause' bro 😅... Pacquiao fanboys saw Pacquiao win the last Marquez fight, when Pacquiao was KOed on the floor 😅... Ok ok I get it, Pacquiao never lost and can never lose...

@rascal2567 3 ай бұрын

Tim won the first bout with Pacquiao just go back n watch

@ThePereamiera 3 ай бұрын

Bradley should never speak of a robbery

@SuperMakarenoh 3 ай бұрын

That is a robbery for sure. Ortiz won the fight

@lobrinks5230 3 ай бұрын

Mayweather beat manny

@AmericanJohnGrass 3 ай бұрын

I don’t think him being involved in a bad decision disqualifies his opinion on who won a fight lol

@DaGuunOSHO 3 ай бұрын

Is crazy how in the fight Bradley said QUOTE “ those close rounds who are you going to give it to? The Champ” and QUOTE, now you saying something different

@southstar0511 3 ай бұрын

Im confused as well cause wasnt he all over teo's nutts during the fight?

@notchmillion6089 3 ай бұрын

Maybe he would of lost his job by not promoting the favorite fighter

@RonaldClinton-up9le 3 ай бұрын

He also said quote just because Teo is getting outboxed doesn’t mean he’s losing ? That don’t even make sense

@amauryaliagavalier7289 3 ай бұрын

If he is missing everything being aggressive, it make Ortiz look talented and in some way cool so in that sense outboxed. But if Ortiz also is not landing then probably that is what it ment.

@AvoidTheseMemes 3 ай бұрын

Teo was defending the super-lightweight title belt. Ortiz needed to do enough to take it away from him. That's why close rounds will go to the titleholder. He's defending them. It was up to Ortiz to show he could hurt Teo. He didn't fight that way. He stayed defensive.

@evenorderas9526 3 ай бұрын

If you watch it in slow motion Youll see Ortiz didnt touch Lopez as much as it appears at first sight

@Leo-uy4qv 3 ай бұрын

That's correct, this just validates how good these judges are , all 3 scored Lopez winning. If you view the whole fight Lopez defense it's on point , he is the next level , and Lopez went forward looking for the fight, ortiz fought like a running chicken

@cristianvarelasuarez8911 3 ай бұрын

Exactly people don’t understand that yes he threw more punches but didn’t land a lot of them hitting him in the arms and sometimes not hitting him at all. Those were wasted punches.

@mikefitzpatrick43 3 ай бұрын

I say this after every Pacquiao fight lol. Every time i go back in watch it in slow replay i see that he landed alot more than people can see in live speed foreal

@JM_Studios 3 ай бұрын

This was Ortiz SECOND chance to make a statement after fighting loma and this was the strategy to beat the GUY who beat loma? I think he blew it.

@peedot39 3 ай бұрын

Great point

@coolnerdsclothing6377 3 ай бұрын

he pulled a Romero Vs Izzy

@sdriza 3 ай бұрын

he did blow it - more offense and he would've had it

@Twofacex2 3 ай бұрын

@@sdrizahis biggest weakness is that he’s vulnerable to counter shots and that’s teo’s bread and butter If he was more offensive, Teo would’ve caught him with something big and he knew it

@Traptinachangingmaze 3 ай бұрын

What was he supposed to do? Fight fire w fire n trade w the bigger puncher?That's not a smart game plan. You gotta fight to ur strengths. So every pure boxer should just go toe to toe w a puncher? That makes zero sense. If that's the case they're never gonna win that fight lol you gotta fight to ur strengths. I can see why Teo won n I was rooting for him, but to fight someone at there strengths is ridiculous. Boxing is a thinking man's sport.

@rstokes9518 3 ай бұрын

I don't think he needs to get rid of his father, but Lopez does need to bring in another trainer. It would help. Imo

@cookinwithchris86 3 ай бұрын

Yeh Lopez still learning n theres things like cutting off ring better creating offense as the hunter needs to be practiced more or taught

@dreadheadshan8346 3 ай бұрын

@@SuperFights77lol easily? Yea ok 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡

@mlopez4546 3 ай бұрын

Freddie Roach would be perfect for Lopez

@the_Sage71 3 ай бұрын

You can't make a guy fight who is determined to survive.

@hlny3162 3 ай бұрын

Make him miss make him pay. Ortiz forgot about the latter lol

@TheGeniuschrist 3 ай бұрын

Exactly

@Effyofeelings 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz through more and landed more

@Hemingway5000 3 ай бұрын

@@Effyofeelingsthey're just biased Lopez fans and a bunch of 'tards that want nothing but face first brawls and think using movement is "running". Usual clownshow that is boxing

@ADRzone 3 ай бұрын

@@Effyofeelingsaccording to "compubox", something that is not accurate, and is a guesstimate that has always been used, is not double check by anyone.

@mittensmcghee4916 3 ай бұрын

@@TheGeniuschrist stop it …..Teo could not cut off the ring, A Draw!!!

@cleaver3168 3 ай бұрын

Pacquiao and Provodnokov gave this man brain damage 😂

@thebestninja80 3 ай бұрын

Provodnokov did I don't know about Manny

@Arman... 3 ай бұрын

If Ortiz used his movement to make Teo pay more often (or at all actually) then yeah id agree

@pocket1684 3 ай бұрын

true. I had it a draw but, while I was more impressed w Ortiz skills, if he landed just even 3 more punches during some of them rounds like he did in some of the earlier rounds, I would have given it to Ortiz.

@sdriza 3 ай бұрын

agree 100%

@shaolin95 3 ай бұрын

Sure but he made him pay more than what Teo did so there is that

@jose507 3 ай бұрын

@pocket1684 a draw is fair neither guy stood out

@jeremyhoward9742 3 ай бұрын

So what did Teo do? But look stupid and get mad and lack the skills to cut the ring off?

@alancomaskey2045 3 ай бұрын

You cannot run 99% of the fight against a champ and expect a decision.

@Lionsandtruth 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz threw more n landed more, it’s called boxing as Ortiz the only fighter that had a gameplan.

@Effyofeelings 3 ай бұрын

He ran but landed more?

@juliorivera1354 3 ай бұрын

@@Effyofeelingsgo check compubox…he landed two more punches..Lopez landed more power shots and was the aggressor throughout the fight. Can’t beat a champion this way, you need to go take his title. Ortiz didn’t and he lost..only facts

@cristianvarelasuarez8911 3 ай бұрын

Facts

@cristianvarelasuarez8911 3 ай бұрын

@@juliorivera1354exactly

@AvoidTheseMemes 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz defended the belt for Lopez. He fought against himself. The score was ridiculous but Ortiz fought defensively as a challenger, trying to take a title belt while fighting like he was defending one. You can't do that. You gotta' move the champion backward to impress the judges enough to take his belt. It's been like this for a long time.

@UnplayedGaming 3 ай бұрын

Show me in the rules of judging where is says the champion must be moved back lol

@JCMthebrand 3 ай бұрын

That's not always followed. But I agree with you. But Lopez feels he beat Ortiz convincingly he's very disillusioned. He deserved to keep his belts....but I saw draw round for round.

@hereforthecomments_tv 3 ай бұрын

@@UnplayedGamingthe rules are the rules i agree, but the judges arent robots, they dont only compute the rules & points. the rules dont factor in human nature. and human nature wants to see the champ decisively lose.

@cristianvarelasuarez8911 3 ай бұрын

Facts pressing forward it’s always something judges look at

@evenorderas9526 3 ай бұрын

@@UnplayedGaming so , now control of the ring its when you run around the ring? IF TEO decides to run aroun like that nobody would touch him. When you move backwards dont have to worry about getting hit.

@patrickrush8377 3 ай бұрын

Says highway robbery but during the fight he was saying teo is winning the fight he is the aggressor and coming forward and Ortiz wasn't doing enough

@AngelHernandez-nu9hi 10 күн бұрын

Facts

@erasmogrimaldo2860 3 ай бұрын

Bradley wasnt pissed when he robbed Pac Man

@skepticalbutopen4620 3 ай бұрын

💯

@jadencandelario7880 3 ай бұрын

And provadnikov

@cristianvarelasuarez8911 3 ай бұрын

Facts

@Effyofeelings 3 ай бұрын

117 to 111 how the fuck did the judge see teo winning 9 rounds

@Supersupremegang 3 ай бұрын

That’s why it’s a robbery, Algieri said he had Ortiz winning 6 rounds, so he contradicted himself

@the_Sage71 3 ай бұрын

Did Ortiz win any rounds?

@jlongobardy1612 3 ай бұрын

Lopez said, "My ring IQ" ROFL!

@757millionaire 3 ай бұрын

📌 Ortiz didn't run .. you can't run in a ring .. he ducked left hooks and right hands and caught jabs .. like that's literally boxing

@mrhedgefund8011 3 ай бұрын

Facts! 💯 They will keep the hype train going then when it stops, board the next train 😂

@mrhedgefund8011 3 ай бұрын

All this hyping of the wrong people & disrespect of skill will backfire in the wrong way when all said & done

@No85Limits 3 ай бұрын

He refused to engage - and he also made teofimo look like muhammad ali at times

@757millionaire 3 ай бұрын

@No85Limits 😂 made Teo look like Muhammad Ali .. good one .. he exchanged at times.. even when Teo called him to the corner .. Ortiz obliged. Its not Ortiz fault he won't stand there and let Teo land shots on his head

@barrybarnes96 3 ай бұрын

Put a chicken in a ring. Then put a guy with two slow feet in the ring and get him to chase the chicken. Watch the chicken run.

@mbsnyderc 3 ай бұрын

The old fighters used to train catching chickens.

@RoseBall-cv1bs 3 ай бұрын

they train like warriors then these dudes don't now

@coolnerdsclothing6377 3 ай бұрын

I only seen that in Rocky movie & ive seen over 100 years of fights & trainings

@Ultimagtr650 3 ай бұрын

Rocky did!

@AmericanJohnGrass 3 ай бұрын

Did they?

@bandadoc5715 3 ай бұрын

how old????? i was fighting 50yrs ago and i never seen anyone chasing chickens?????

@ems8602 3 ай бұрын

Antonio Tarver explains the results of that fight irrefutably.

@watchyamouth5053 3 ай бұрын

He was wrong, I agree with Bud.

@ems8602 3 ай бұрын

@SuperFights77 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdKbfs2hv9yVXWQ.htmlsi=R7BNRtyvMDzf_l47

@charlieparker7159 3 ай бұрын

@SuperFights77 you think Bud is scared of a guy that lost to Kambosos and looked like crap against Sandor Martin and Jermaine Ortiz? Lmao

@ghosttown3194 3 ай бұрын

@SuperFights77 Do you actually think TweakFeamle has a chance against Bud 😆😆

@lamonthunt8711 3 ай бұрын

@SuperFights77explain please?

@BE-bk1tb 3 ай бұрын

Agreed. A guy like Teofimo should have a better plan than “stand in front of me”. If he has ring IQ as he suggested, he should have been able to cut off the ring and make the fight better.

@The053199 3 ай бұрын

Make that ring 16ft and lets see how long this chicken shit style lasts. When did mayweather cut the ring off on zab judah or castillo? No one can do that if youre given the whole street to run around in

@VersatyleTV1 3 ай бұрын

The crazy thing is so many fighters have shown how to cut off the ring against fighters with exceptional movement, Mayweather came forward against Judah after losing practically four rounds. Errol Spence showed great examples of it against Algieri and trapped Porter in the corner in the moments when he tried to use movement and footwork. There's absolutely no excuse in 2024.

@VersatyleTV1 3 ай бұрын

@SuperFights77 Yes he did.. watch the fight again.... he walked Judah down with a high guard and pressed him and didn't allow him to move as much.

@VersatyleTV1 3 ай бұрын

@SuperFights77 No... he WAS moving and doing great until Floyd made an adjustment and started to walk him down with the high guard. Staying in front of him with the intelligent pressure and not allowing him to use the full vicinity of the ring. You can be aggressive and effective while defensive when your technique and footwork is right.

@sergiomendoza7030 3 ай бұрын

The difference between the freak athletes like Roy, Pac Man, Floyd, Ray Leonard etc… is that all were great athletes with both their legs and upper bodies. Lopez has two left feet.

@RossKempOnYourMum01 3 ай бұрын

He needs his opponent to close distance on him for him, while he keeps his feet set

@bonbon-gl8qo 3 ай бұрын

This man be true, but Ortiz couldn’t take it home. Lopez won the fight.

@BernhardBernard 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz won a 12 round amateur contest. But he lost the live professional sparring match

@AbdulAziz-mu6kq 3 ай бұрын

Who did you have winning Shakor and De la Santos?

@BernhardBernard 3 ай бұрын

@@AbdulAziz-mu6kq I had Shakur winning and Ortiz winning. But this is an entertainment business not a sport. So I understand why they do what they do... Kinda like not giving a 35 year old Ukrainian a win off a 25 year old in America. It doesn't make business sense

@BernhardBernard 3 ай бұрын

@@SuperFights77 be gone industry shills!

@thetruesquad5059 3 ай бұрын

@@BernhardBernardno one wll forget haney already lost to loma We also know subriel matias lost a fight to a knockdown that was not even an actual knockdown so we can debate that he is undefeated too, i could easily say matias is undefeated and haney has 1 L I aint forget evander holyfield robbing lennox lewis of undisputed in their first fight

@BernhardBernard 3 ай бұрын

@@thetruesquad5059 not to mention that Maties came back and beat dude up in the rematch

@charliegarcia7821 3 ай бұрын

Teo knows he lost for sure was so relieved with the decision he began to cry and we got no backflip 😂

@notchmillion6089 3 ай бұрын

Facts

@notchmillion6089 3 ай бұрын

@@SuperFights77 yea i am sure that is why your boy was crying because he know he got a gift what he think that he won the best fight in his career you definitely a casual

@gotp76 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz is an idiot, he knew Teo was the favorite, a-side, top rank backed star fighter. Ortiz was not going to get the decision against favorite, he should have taken it to Teo/go for the KO.

@FranciscoGonzalez-ob1hj 3 ай бұрын

You cant expect new age boxing fans which is MOST fans to know what the sweet science is, they don’t understand it’s not who fights prettier for you it’s who won each round 🤦🏽‍♂️

@Hydrosized 3 ай бұрын

It’s hard to stick with boxing. This type of thing kills the sport.

@gotp76 3 ай бұрын

Yup, Ortiz deserved to lose cuz how he fought and Shakur should have taken an L too.

@Ferno90033 3 ай бұрын

Why didn't he say any of this during the fig

@cristianhernandez3619 3 ай бұрын

Cause he would look stupid for not saying the same about Shakira tweeterson lol 😂

@coolnerdsclothing6377 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz knew he had to throw more jabs & more combinations but he also knew if he did he would get knocked out! Its a catch 22

@BE-bk1tb 3 ай бұрын

He wasn’t cutting the ring.

@montbrink4700 3 ай бұрын

@@SuperFights77 Cutting the ring gives you opportunities to land on an opponent who's stuck in the corner or on the ropes.... If you don't cut the ring and the boxer is boxing on the back You're gonna have a very limited opportunity to land punches.... YOU GOING TO GET BEAT.... Cutting off the ring is a fundamental aspect of boxing. Its one of the first things you learn... And if you don't do it well , you're not gonna be very successful as a professional boxer

@danielrendon8555 3 ай бұрын

Why does he have to cut off the ring when the challenger is running when you are the challenger you need to prove yourself and fight.

@montbrink4700 3 ай бұрын

@@SuperFights77 Teo lost

@montbrink4700 3 ай бұрын

@@SuperFights77 the books won't change but I No for my forty years of watching boxing what I saw.... And furthermore Teo When he fights someone with a big name on his level of skill and Popularity he won't win ...Teo is a very limited fighter Who is not improving but regressing .....

@montbrink4700 3 ай бұрын

@@SuperFights77 man Loma the most over rated fighter in boxing since Mike Tyson.... the great white hope isn't an all time great fighter

@eddieas 3 ай бұрын

Ever since Teofimo said Bradley doesnt beling in the bocing HOF, Tims been out to get at Lopez lol

@coolnerdsclothing6377 3 ай бұрын

Algieri just said only "casuals" call fights like this "robbery" lmao & low & behold the title lmao!

@blasianbombflower8828 3 ай бұрын

Teo need a ski mask because he on a robbing spree robbed Ortiz and Sandor Martin

@box228 3 ай бұрын

That’s Algieris passive aggressive way of telling Tim Bradley he’s an idiot and calls him out on his constant flip flopping

@coolnerdsclothing6377 3 ай бұрын

@@SuperFights77 lmao the "casual"

@coolnerdsclothing6377 3 ай бұрын

@@box228 I know & im here for all of it & love it lmao

@SnappalacDeville 3 ай бұрын

Dude is still dizzy from the pacman fight!!!😂😂😂😂

@reytaino9654 3 ай бұрын

Pac-Man still ZZZZZ from the Marquez fight…😂😂😂

@TimmyTurner421 3 ай бұрын

@@reytaino9654 you just took an L

@adamlees8410 3 ай бұрын

Tim's opinion holds the most weight every time for me.

@carlosm.osorio2208 3 ай бұрын

A boxing Lesson?????! What the hell are you guys smoking????? Damnnnnn!!!!

@SuperMakarenoh 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz won almost every single round. Teo did nothing on that fight

@TimmyTurner421 3 ай бұрын

@@SuperMakarenoh wrong.

@SuperMakarenoh 3 ай бұрын

@@TimmyTurner421 Teo lost vs Ortiz and vs Martin. And for sure with Kanbosos... Would Subriel Matias lost vs these guys???

@pauclyoung2124 3 ай бұрын

@@SuperMakarenohno

@cristianvarelasuarez8911 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz didn’t put any boxing lesson he was running the whole fight 😂

@millionaire773 3 ай бұрын

Please don't mention Shakur until he rematch the last guy he ran from!

@nikkicrouse6713 3 ай бұрын

Best comment of the night; “I’m glad I missed this fight”. Best response; “how do you know”?

@williamortiz3368 3 ай бұрын

Runners don't belong inside the ring. Fans want action packed fights.

@Lionsandtruth 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz threw more n landed more than Teo. Teo had no gameplan n looked like absolute shit

@TimmyTurner421 3 ай бұрын

@@Lionsandtruthyeah mostly jabs and not by much. Ortiz couldn't punch through a wet paper bag. Zero power, zero effect. Right man won

@Lionsandtruth 3 ай бұрын

@@TimmyTurner421 Teo got outboxed n embarrassed n lost…nice try air bud

@slimcharles1016 3 ай бұрын

Where was Tim when the two judges scored the Josh Taylor fight 115-113? They almost robbed Teo that night too....

@JD-re3cj 3 ай бұрын

They tried soooo hard to rob Teo and Josh Taylor fumbled the bag so bad 😂

@fakawat7220 3 ай бұрын

only teddy atlas will go to the judges and questions them. right after the fight...

@jadencandelario7880 3 ай бұрын

After Algeri schooled Tim he had no answers lmao.

@loweelljfkyeen 3 ай бұрын

Tim Double Talking playing both sides buck dancing 🕺🏾 Bradley 💯

@lobrinks5230 3 ай бұрын

Yall only say that when he says sum yall mesicans and fish heads don't like

@PEDROPLOMO 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz didnt win he ran all the fight teo was the one putting the preassure ortiz wasent doin enough he was just scared trying to survive didnt even try winning

@Lionsandtruth 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz threw more n landed more than Teo. Teo simply had no gameplan n looked like absolute shit, he lost.

@muttbonejones9822 3 ай бұрын

Running is the new boxing skill and leave up to Tim Bradley all boxing matches will be a crowd booing from lack of fighting with these guys maiking it the other fighter fought because they cant chase down this scary running op Shakur lost too but was gifted for running

@TM-um2xq 3 ай бұрын

It’s funny how when Tim Bradley checks these dudes in the truth on who won they all start to change there biased opinion. Thanks Tim for trying to save pure boxing

@loitersquadX 3 ай бұрын

The punch stats favor two actually. Teo was chasing and landed more

@publicenemynumber1861 3 ай бұрын

He lost to pacman

@user-vr3sq1kq6i 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz ran around the track faster than Usian Bolt

@mrhedgefund8011 3 ай бұрын

People forget a young Mike Tyson had people running but still got it done. He had great footwork & movement with his peak-a-boo style. He went after it!

@MrWeliz 3 ай бұрын

And teofilo "B" level fighter that he is could not cut the ring

@user-vr3sq1kq6i 3 ай бұрын

B level fight who was undisputed lightweight champ of the world and current super lightweight champ

@MrWeliz 3 ай бұрын

If this is what boxing has become i think i will switch to wwf . boxing is at its lowest point now with all of these "B" level fighters including Teofilo@@SuperFights77

@mrhedgefund8011 3 ай бұрын

@@SuperFights77 I'm not talking about fighting off the back foot, I am talking about cutting off the ring and going after your opponent.

@chuyesque 3 ай бұрын

It wasn't a robbery. I scored it 8-4 for Teofimo. The type of judging that will reward performances like Ortiz's will kill boxing.

@AbdulAziz-mu6kq 3 ай бұрын

Tim told no L I E S

@TTC9067 3 ай бұрын

I’m one person that complains about Timothy Bradley commentating but this conversation he’s totally correct

@Urban_Paradise 3 ай бұрын

Im actually the exact opposite. I normally somewhat agree with his takes but he's on one with this.

@MrGreglarry 3 ай бұрын

Nah. Ortiz needed to come to win ... and he didn't. He came to survive and do that finessing shit.

@TTC9067 3 ай бұрын

@@MrGreglarry the object of boxing is to hit and not be hit. He threw and landed the most punches in the fight. How did Ortiz lose? Plz explain o I guess Lopez did a great job of following him around

@rogeraraiza9690 3 ай бұрын

Lmao 😂 says the guy that got dominated by The Great Pac Man twice & was gifted 🎁 a decision & STILL doesnt admit he lost when it was clear as day to everyone. Gtfoh Tim Smh

@michaelh.117 3 ай бұрын

Love this show! God bless ProBox TV and these guys and their expert knowledge and opinions and fiery disagreements!

@CaliSmoke805 3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 Bradley is high on his own supply...

@sirkilluminati9880 3 ай бұрын

Dude won the marathon running all night 😂😂😂

@Lionsandtruth 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz threw more n landed more than Teo. Teo looked like shit

@michaeldepassquallo3924 3 ай бұрын

Not exciting is an understatement Tim if that's boxing we would have no audience and no sport. Hence the ratings.

@MikeTyler_96 3 ай бұрын

I think it’s crazy how Tim Bradley tone has changed from when he was commentating live. The top rank coverage of the fight that night was heavily in favour for teo. But now Bradley is out raged about the decision. But he wasn’t covering the fight fairly live.

@Supersupremegang 3 ай бұрын

Tim Bradley said Teofimo needs a knockout to win , so he’s being consistent

@user-xg8zt1uf6d 3 ай бұрын

Timothy Bradly pissing on people telling them its rain again. Clearly tim hates teo because of his comments. Its called fighting tim not ballroom dancing. Knowbody wants to see that

@Alejandroo3222 3 ай бұрын

You don't score by damage 🤣 he crazy.

@Supersupremegang 3 ай бұрын

@SuperFights77 You have to be Teofimo

@johnpresley6342 3 ай бұрын

What is the debate? Those are Top Rank judges.

@sabinascott4297 3 ай бұрын

the right fighter won. this is pros not amateurs. you can't go in against the champ hoping to get awarded a win for playing tag. if we allow this then we will have a whole generation of boring fights because the rules won't make the fighters fight.

@Mr_Magee 3 ай бұрын

💯% accuracy from Tim on this fight.

@Thriller360 3 ай бұрын

Chris with the great assessment as always💯🥊🔥

@dgordon2991 3 ай бұрын

I watched the fight, you can’t win by running away the whole fight that’s by definition NOT FIGHTING.

@TheUniversalBoxingEst. 3 ай бұрын

Right⁉️i mean like bro u get paid to kick ass not play ring around the Rosey and Tag.

@mgoogleuser8011 3 ай бұрын

kind of what Floyd for 50 fights

@funkrates4778 3 ай бұрын

@@mgoogleuser8011Floyd only fight that way in the second half of his career. But by these guys’ definition of who won, the Manny easily beat Floyd.

@mgoogleuser8011 3 ай бұрын

@@funkrates4778 I strongly agree naking a guy miss isnt scroing, need to counter to score. I had the fight even tbh but Teo didnt look good

@Torybeckford 3 ай бұрын

It’s funny Tim saying that now but listening to him on ESPN u would think teo was winning

@planetaryhealer5540 3 ай бұрын

what fight was bradley looking at i could hardly listen to his delusional rant bob arum said it best "ortiz did nothing to prove himself" bradley just proved we cant listen to him!

@truthbtold7997 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz fell short but he can improve he's still young

@matthewalexander3314 3 ай бұрын

Not a robbery!! The 116-111 scored card needs to be investigated for sure! It was a close fight a robbery would be if someone got their ass whopped and still won the fight !! Was probably one of the worst fights I’ve ever watched

@TimmyTurner421 3 ай бұрын

The fans certainly didn't get their money's worth

@timcarter9146 3 ай бұрын

You didn’t watch the shakuar fight then lol

@matthewalexander3314 3 ай бұрын

@@timcarter9146 I actually did watch it that’s why I said probably one of the worst fights I’ve seen

@ricardoedmonds4169 3 ай бұрын

Less aggression!! He didn't land any effective blows, wasn't a boxing lesson, it was a track meet!! Whenever Ray Leonard gave out a boxing lesson, he also set down on his punches, did damage, and let the judges know he was in control throughout the match

@joerod2019 3 ай бұрын

Instead of getting right with it Bradley has been tight all weekend because everyone kept telling him how wrong his point of view is.

@TheGeniuschrist 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz was on his bike the whole fight and it was ugly. Ortiz lost because he looked like he was running away the whole time.

@Lionsandtruth 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz threw more n landed more than Teo. Teo simply looked like pure shit n lost.

@TheGeniuschrist 3 ай бұрын

@@Lionsandtruth I think we can agree that nobody looked good. Teo looked 36 and Ortiz looked scared.

@cristianvarelasuarez8911 3 ай бұрын

@@Lionsandtruth that’s how I know you fool of shit because the fight was boring because of Ortiz he’s the one that looked shittier blame him. Ortiz missed bookoo punches and even if he was to outland Teofimo barely, he still wouldn’t have won because Teofimo got the better exchanges with more power shots than Ortiz on top of him being the aggressor those things count.

@Lionsandtruth 3 ай бұрын

@@TheGeniuschrist 😂😂😂😂 u got a point

@siyamazimi9529 3 ай бұрын

Regarding of the outcome Ortiz fought with his secondary stance on a championship fight and Teo couldn’t get him.

@6oulx 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz didn’t make Teo pay. If Ortiz did he would’ve opened himself up for more shots as well and he didn’t want that.

@realamerican3423 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz ran like he was in track meet. He did not win😂

@HowToBeABusinessAnalyst 3 ай бұрын

I know boxing can be very subjective and different fans like different kinds of fights, but I didn't find the fight boring at all. I felt like Ortiz was rarely actually "running" and I really enjoyed watching his great foot movement that nullified a lot of what Teo was trying to accomplish. There was a lot said during the fight about Ortiz constantly moving out to his right and Teo not being able to cut him off but I thought Ortiz circled out in both directions equally effectively. Yes, it wasn't a slugfest, but I think different kinds of fights can be entertaining.

@MuhamadKareemhalal 3 ай бұрын

Yep Ortiz was countering Lopez clean

@jaeo908 3 ай бұрын

I love it when they all honest

@juangarciagomez6242 3 ай бұрын

Bro I love that you guys aren’t afraid to say what happens in a fight based off what the sport thinks is supposed to be as in but in this situation I still thought teo had a close fight Tim you really should be humble enough to not yell Robery having been part of the biggest roberry with Pacman

@krosa8950 3 ай бұрын

I totally agreed with Bradley… same with the Loma&Haney fight.. this judges are getting out hand..

@dirtydigginnuts1455 3 ай бұрын

Tim Bradley salty based on teofimos comment that he didn't belong in the hall of fame... This is why he is salty with teo.. JUDGES GOT it right.. Champ can't lose a belt from a challenger running, period!

@archiemegel1013 3 ай бұрын

Thats a fact lol

@dutchmason22 3 ай бұрын

Facts g

@3rikhndez 3 ай бұрын

💯🎯

@anthonymarcus6956 3 ай бұрын

Timothy salty asf, that's all it is, tim is salty and dont like teo, and mad teo accomplished more than bradley at his early age, Tim bradley tweaking, Now the shakur vs los santos was a vacant title, and ofcourse they gonna give the W to Bob arum top piggy bank in shakur. teo vs Ortiz was a defense for teo. Therefore the challenger is supposed to make it clearly and decisively beating the champ, take the title from the champ, clean and clear, not just hit and run around avoiding not getting hit, like paulie said its boxing not follow the leader, teo should of let him come to him instead him chasing him, teo is the champion hes the one supposed to come for your title not the other way around .and Ortiz aint do a damn thing so why bradley tweaking, he tweaking he didn't beat the champ in lopez , I see this is a race situation and we can clearly see it . Bradley a race baitor and top rank Bob arum hires bias commentators like him and Andre ward. to be honest. Pay attention to how they comment on black boxers who are the favorites in a fight vs any one , white, Mexican, etc. Like you have to knock a black dude out to beat them, now somehow teo lost this fight when he barely touched him and got the most clean punches landed , Ortiz did land some but weak ass shots and party blocked, he just kept running 🏃‍♂️ like the rocky movie him chasing the 🐔 chicken , no more no less Like wtf in my opinion none did enough but the champ being the champ gets to keep the belt in a boring @ss fight. Period . Stop this robbery allegations cause nome of that sht realistic.

@lilsstrunks 3 ай бұрын

Zero logic, most people like you should just watch bareknuckle boxing in reality.

@mrbx79 3 ай бұрын

Teo's fight is like katt William's interview. Everyone has something to say. And take advantage of the wave of bs. 😂😂😂

@cristianhernandez3619 3 ай бұрын

Horrible comment from a casual stick to mma or talk boxing

@mrbx79 3 ай бұрын

@cristianhernandez3619 FO.. it's the truth.. all of the sudden Eveyone is an expert.. the problem is.. that the people that think ortiz won. By running 🏃‍♀️ like a bitch all rounds want the rest to think alike. But nah.. if you like that type of shit is cool.. but is not boxing.. FO.

@shaheedrobinson3369 3 ай бұрын

Why in the sport of boxing, is boxing so frowned upon. And since when is entertainment a criteria in judging a round?

@bonbon-gl8qo 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz did not do enough. After watching the fight the second time, Ortiz wasn’t connecting his punches as he was moving out the way. He seemed sloppy, & afraid. Teo was backing him up & more dominant, plus more of his hits were landing. I’m not even a super big fan of Teo, yet I can’t say he lost this fight. The champ won this fight in my opinion.

@FREDEPHRAIM187 3 ай бұрын

ortiz did not get robbed lomac did ortiz ain't do shit but run you don't beat a champion like that

@easybandzofficial6456 3 ай бұрын

Loma got beat up 8-4 Haney! Ortiz was robbed

@The053199 3 ай бұрын

@@easybandzofficial6456haney got outlanded in every category against loma. Ortiz only threw 2 more punches and landed less.

@FREDEPHRAIM187 3 ай бұрын

my man you need a new set of eyes if you think loma got beat up

@easybandzofficial6456 3 ай бұрын

Loma was obliterated by 24 yr old Devin Haney with constant body shots whenever Loma tried to get close n battered with a jab from range. 1 or 2 flurries with majority of the punches missing or being rolled with, every rd doesn't win you the rd over constant work from beginning to end.

@easybandzofficial6456 3 ай бұрын

@SuperFights77 lmao teofimo got beat square and fair. He got outboxed and outclassed. That way broad day robbery.

@2r3notgoodas1 3 ай бұрын

Tim is the Hardest Teo Hater outhere. Teo won there was no Boxing lesson from Ortiz just straight running. Antonio Tarver has the best Unbiased Honest reaction.

@lilsstrunks 3 ай бұрын

ah yess running backwards that makes perfect sense lmfao boxing fans are some of the most dumbest people ive seen

@2r3notgoodas1 3 ай бұрын

@@SuperFights77 He was hating on Teo for the Taylor fight aswell.

@JonathanRamirez-sm6pz 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz shouldn’t run around soo much, it looked like he was scared instead of controlling the fight and I think that’s what other people saw.

@3rikhndez 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz was a Trackstar

@jamesquinn9971 3 ай бұрын

Taylor was perfect for Lopez always going forward made it easy

@uu99ful 3 ай бұрын

Agree 💯💯

@coolnerdsclothing6377 3 ай бұрын

Taylor actually fought tho

@RossKempOnYourMum01 3 ай бұрын

He is a actually a better fighter on the back foot (see the Ramirez and O'Hara Davies fights). But lately he's been using his size at the weight to bully guys. With hindsight that's the worst thing U can do vs Teo.

@jamesquinn9971 3 ай бұрын

@@RossKempOnYourMum01 yeah he went in thinking he could bully teo made a right mess of it

@thetruesquad5059 3 ай бұрын

He didnt make it easy considering by the 5th round taylor was up like 4-1 or 3-2 before Teo started making a comeback and winning some dominant rounds People love to exaggerate, he dominated rounds but not the whole fight

@irvingm119 3 ай бұрын

Bradley loves runners

@MrEliasdl 3 ай бұрын

Desert Storm Tim used to be a come forward fighter in his day. Who is this guy posing as him?

@jeremievivianagriffin9458 3 ай бұрын

Not only did he have a game plan,he did it southpaw.Out boxed Lopez without using his natural orthodox style.

@akilade0824 3 ай бұрын

I agree. Chris and Paulie are surprising me. Ortiz outboxed and outsmarted Teo. Clear win. I'm shocked people with their expertise seem to be judging based on entertainment value.

@jeremievivianagriffin9458 3 ай бұрын

@akilade0824 Because at the end they revealed their hand,they work for Pro Box TV which prides itself on ENTERTAINING fights.Any true student of the sweet science saw what happened.

@akilade0824 3 ай бұрын

@@jeremievivianagriffin9458 I hear you.

@alfredotrejo125 3 ай бұрын

Come on Tim.... you losing my respect. You trippin bro

@iZombified 3 ай бұрын

He just salty cuss Teo said Bradly don’t belong in the “Hall Of Fame” 😹😹

@marcalexander5594 3 ай бұрын

@@iZombifiedwhich is accurate. Tim was a good fighter at best. Getting gifted the manny fighter was his biggest achievement. Unfortunately the boxing hof is no longer exclusive, too many average - good guys in there

@hugovalentincounseling 3 ай бұрын

I like Ortiz and wanted him to win, but runners turn me off and are too boring. Therefore, I support the idea of giving the fight to the person who is willing to fight and put on a show.

@craiganbrooks1485 3 ай бұрын

If the fighter is what you call “running" is landing more punches on the fighter that is coming forward. Who do you give the fight to then❓

@516Mel 3 ай бұрын

@@craiganbrooks1485 Ortiz only landed a couple more punches and they were jabs, not power shots. Teo landed the harder shots to the head and body.

@craiganbrooks1485 3 ай бұрын

@@516Mel So, did they change the rules in boxing and jabs no longer count as a scoring punch❓👀

@hugovalentincounseling 3 ай бұрын

My solution is to have the trainers program their fighter to not follow the runner. Hold your ground and don't feel bad if there is no action, it is not your fault the coward won't fight. Then, when and if the runner decides to fight, use faints to keep him honest, punch with him, and use combinations. Should the runner not stop and fight, the fans will boo him all the way back to chicken land. On the other hand, if you try to "cut the ring" the runner will take advantage of the fact that you are reaching, off balance and will hit you when you least expected by making sudden stops. Remember, only the runner knows when he will stop suddenly and hit you, and only the runner knows in which direction and at what speed he will move next...If you chase him he will catch off balance and off guard all night. @@craiganbrooks1485

@craiganbrooks1485 3 ай бұрын

@@SuperFights77 I watched the fight also, so I am able to say that Teo absolutely did not have no better or greater defense than Ortiz. That absolutely is not true. The only thing that Lopez landed was significant was that head butt that cut Ortiz. Teo only literally landed like two punches throughout the fight. Everything that I have just said is the way that I see it, and a whole lot of other people on KZfaq see that way also. Are you going to try to convince everybody on KZfaq that disagrees with you, to see it your way? Don't because it is a waste of time.

@k.k8291 3 ай бұрын

Nonsense! You don't win a fight by running and piddy-padding. Teofimo not only clearly won, it was a complete shutout.

@cperceptionsmusic 3 ай бұрын

If you don't give even rounds, I had it 115-113 Teo. I scored it 116-114 for Teo because I gave two even rounds. Round 1 and round 9. I can't give a round to someone when the round is close and one guy is clearly running for his life.

@hugovalentincounseling 3 ай бұрын

I just saw the Elvis Rodriguez vs Kenneth Sims fight. Sims is very athletic and fast. He used his skills to fight and hit his opponent first and/or just more cleanly. At other times, Sims avoided punches by making quick subtle moves, but stayed within fighting range. Then, Sims either counter attacked or stood his ground and fought back. All these runners should watch that fight and study it. Running and boxing are not the same thing!!!

@lilsstrunks 3 ай бұрын

Infrequent watcher comment.

@The053199 3 ай бұрын

@@lilsstrunksyou dont even know who elvis rodriguez or kenneth sims are😂 only real fans know those kind of names

@DoctorBoxingTalk 3 ай бұрын

Algieri said it perfectly, the same thing I said, coincidentally..."You can't win a fight by disengaging", SIMPLE! You know why Ortiz didn't counterpunch? It's because Ortiz was running so much that he couldn't punch back, Teo was out of range, but Ortiz was out of range too! 😂 Great discussion though, fellas. This was more entertaining than the actual fight being discussed!😅

@mazi9303 3 ай бұрын

See what you got to realize too is that Jermaine fought this guy in a secondary stance the entire fight and TEO couldn't bring him out of it.. Jermaine Ortiz is an orthodox fighter he only started experimenting fighting southpaw after he became pro.. for him to come into a championship and decide to start it in his secondary stance and keep that stands the entire fight is crazy it's not like Bud Crawford where he has been fighting in the secondary stance most of his life. Great training and gameplan from Ortiz and his team.

@Supersupremegang 3 ай бұрын

Ortiz been a switch hitter though pause

@mazi9303 3 ай бұрын

@@Supersupremegang yeah but he never went switch from start to finish especially against an elite fighter.. people saying he wasn't sitting on his punches but there's a reason for that. He doesn't have as much power in the South Paw stance so he didn't sit on his punches as much bc he wouldn't be as effective trading with Teo but it's better and makes sense defensively to fight south paw

@coachbilly6058 3 ай бұрын

Paulie is the man. Always has great takes.

@abdulanwar7786 3 ай бұрын

I agree with Tim, Ortiz boxed his head off and made it look easy in the process.

@19junior82 3 ай бұрын

He lost 😂

@The053199 3 ай бұрын

Back pedalling for 12 rounds doesnt equal masterclass🤷🏽‍♂️

@abdulanwar7786 3 ай бұрын

@@SuperFights77 the punch stats are bullshyt, your watched that fight unbiased then you saw Teo struggle because he couldn't close the door on Ortiz, are Jabs, check hooks and straights all night. We know the game Teo is the bigger draw however he ain't do shyt to win that fight.

@sergiomarquez9184 3 ай бұрын

How tim feels is like how all boxing fans felt when he got that gift against pacquiao

@juarezcustombuilds 3 ай бұрын

Don’t understand why pro box allows Timothy talk on here. Dude is biased in the wrong way and the wrong reasons

@ViktorM1 3 ай бұрын

Teo boxed like shit but I don’t think Ortiz deserved a win fighting the champion like that. A draw might have been the right decision

@jaime4421 3 ай бұрын

De Los Santos didn’t even land at Shakur. Shakur was just straight up running where Ortiz at least tried landing but got counter.🤦🏽‍♂️

@Ralphunreal 3 ай бұрын

santos beat shakur, shakur ran. ortiz won because he actually threw punches and wasnt scared like shakur was, catching teo with the left most of the time he came in.@@SuperFights77