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Processing Synths and Drum Machines through a Vintage Maxon Mixer
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4 жыл бұрынA follow up to the Boss KM-60 mixer video I did a few weeks back: • Processing Drum Machin...
This time we're taking the analogue mixer test further with a vintage Maxon RM-60 and RM-100 EX to see how both synths and drums machines sound through processed through them.
Level 1: Simple
Synths and Drum Machines:
TR-606 (1981)
TB-303 (1981)
Roland System 500 (2016)
FX:
Boss DM-2 (1981)
Dr Scientist BitQuest (2014)
Strymon El Capistan (2010)
Control:
Arturia BeatStep Pro (2015)
Level 2: Moderate
Synths and Drum Machines:
Oberheim DXa (1983)
Moog Minitaur (2012)
Roland SH-101 (1982)
ARP Avatar (1977)
FX:
Maxon UE 303 B (1982)
Boss CE-2 (1979)
Boss DM-2 (1981)
Lexicon Impulse
Dr Scientist BitQuest (2014)
Strymon El Capistan (2010)
Control:
Arturia BeatStep Pro (2015)
Level 3: Full Beans
Synths and Drum Machines:
Roland TR-707 (1984)
Yamaha DX-7 (1983)
ARP Odyssey 2813 (1976)
Sequential Circuits Pro~One (1981)
Korg MS-20 Mark 1 (1978)
Guitar:
Ibanez JEM 7DBK (2002)
FX:
Maxon UE 303 B (1982)
Boss CE-2 (1979)
Boss DM-2 (1981)
Ibanez Tubescreamer TS-808 reissue (2014)
Dr Scientist BitQuest (2014)
Strymon El Capistan (2010)
Control:
Arturia BeatStep Pro (2015)
Korg SQ-1 (2015)
MOTU Midi Express 128 (2003)
Cubase
Social:
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Facebook.com/alexballmusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Stop jabbering and show me the results: 3:23 7:28 10:41
@theshyguy1580 4 жыл бұрын
LOL!!
@MrKrisstain 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Next time "shut up and show me the results" is even better
@d.a.v3danimationprod791 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂..im saying the same thing,as im at the laundrymat watching this..."just get on with it"
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
@@d.a.v3danimationprod791 Ha. Well it's that thing that if I just showed the results then that would be meaningless because it wouldn't explain what was happening. But then the explanations take a couple of minutes each so it gets pretty wordy. Hence this quick link for people who have no use for the explanations.
@d.a.v3danimationprod791 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks alex, keep up the good work👍👊
@spybloodjr 4 жыл бұрын
The jam at the end was sicccccck. Would love to hear that with the mix on the guitar pumped up a bit. Regardless the filth was turned up to 11, and I'm living for it.
@richardhedderly 4 жыл бұрын
"Regardless the filth was turned up to 11" - pmsl
@mightymike1978 4 жыл бұрын
hehe, was going to comment but your comment was killing it to the max. so my comment is obsolete now... ;-)
@DanielHuman1996 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, it sounds great. I used to work at guitar center in 2000 and remember when people were trading in their old analog mixers for comparative priced digital mixers, and hearing their mixes get worse.
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, better doesn't mean "better" I guess. These mixers actually glue things together very musically.
@bobafruti 4 жыл бұрын
I imagine 20yr old digital mixers are now worth well less than the analog mixers they traded in.
@fender97 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic Agree. The difference is night and day between analogue and digital gear. It's like when you have a valve and a transistor guitar amp, no contest. Nice work on the tunes.
@marklewis4024 Жыл бұрын
I agree!
@XavierRadix 4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't just sound fantastic, it looks fantastic, too! Love those colored knobs.
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, bright knobs and glowing VUs. The aesthetic is part of the experience.
@tactul7376 2 жыл бұрын
anyone any Idea, where to find those? My RM is lacking 4 of those and would look less thooth-less with them ^^
@danjwatts 4 жыл бұрын
Love it! I've been doing this for years especially on drums. I've an old spring reverb unit that was designed for a hi-fi (because spring reverb makes everything better!) that I especially love on piano. I often find using equipment in ways it's not been intended can bring great results.
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Spring reverb for a hi-fi! Haha, what a simultaneously brilliant and terrible idea! Can imagine people soaking perfectly good recordings into oblivion. Great to repurpose it for music making. Agree, many sounds I love come from using equipment in ways it wasn't intended for.
@graxjpg 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic people used to put spring reverbs in their CARS!!! To make the AM radio sound better I guess.
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I want a spring reverb in my car!
@graxjpg 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic I know a guy who has one from a rat rod he made in the 70s. It’s the biggest spring reverb tank I’ve ever seen! The size of a square mandolin case!
@t0xcn253 2 жыл бұрын
Making a career out of misusing equipment is my stated goal
@korbly 4 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for that ARP documentary! 👀👀👀
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Coming together. Very exciting. :)
@SaumBodhi 3 жыл бұрын
Whats that?
@lucasc5622 3 жыл бұрын
@@SaumBodhi literally just google arp documentary. its not hard
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucasc5622 The ARP documentary was still being made when this video was uploaded and he's referring to a comment I made to that effect at 6:23.
@Pablo668 4 жыл бұрын
That was really cool. Sounded awesome. That cable that was running in front of you in the last set up. I'd have forgotten that was there and walked through it, breaking the cable and pulling a heap of gear from both sides onto the floor. I'm clumsy like that.
@focus5766 4 жыл бұрын
I keep coming back to this video for the first track, and I can't stop...
@Lofyne 4 жыл бұрын
I love the sound you’re getting from this gear! Reminds me very much of some early to mid 80s Cabaret Voltaire 👍
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yes, I like what these mixers do to audio signals.
@NeuronalAxon 4 жыл бұрын
Does sound a bit CV-ish, yeah. 👍
@garygluebag 4 жыл бұрын
As soon as u pressed play, I shouted out yesssss. The acid line is dope. All sounds wicked
@mrclaytron 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always! And hell yeah, that jam at the end was awesome! (Actually, all jams were really good!)
@MarcioSilva-ssiillvvaa 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing sound! I'd dance the night away to that music.
@santiagobielboatas3033 4 жыл бұрын
What a party you're having there, man!!! I'm glad you have great fun doing music having done so many great tracks. Hugs. Santi from BOF
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
👊
@wingflanagan 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, as usual. I'm not nearly so much of a gearhead, but your enthusiasm is infectious. The irony of retro gear enthusiasm is that us old farts couldn't WAIT for digital to take over so we could get rid of all those pesky analogue artifacts and get a "clean", "perfect" sound. I suppose in retrospect, those artifacts actually did add something aesthetic to the mix. Hindsight is always 20/20!
@DarkSideofSynth 4 жыл бұрын
So true! Noise floor, hiss, hum. cables everywhere, imperfect tuning, imperfect timing, 'cheesy' sounds, distortion.... Now they want them all back. I guess music and technolgy are a bit like fashion: what is in one day, is out the next and then it's back in years later and the cycle goes on and on... Who knows, perhaps in 8-10 years the 2010s will be retro and people will crave for 'old' plugins and sound libraries... or not ;)
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
It's like black and white photos or old 8mm video. Gives a hazy rose tinted view of something. If something is too clear we seem to dislike it, like it's a bit bland. Just look at Instagram with all those filters for a case in point!
@wingflanagan 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic Yup. Perhaps it's best to think of them as adding "character". I must confess I like film grain in photos and movies, which sort of contradicts what I said before. Maybe it's because I was older and more set in my ways when digital photography became a thing.
@JulianDoe 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Love the new editing! another must-share video!
@JuanPabloVeTV 4 жыл бұрын
Super mega like! I've recently found a really really rare copy of a Boss Km6A, made by a strange company called Pro.2 It sounds AMAZING, one of this days, I will make a review video and send it to you. Thank you and cheers from Colombia!
@michaelwheeler3123 3 жыл бұрын
you've got serious talent
@arayapokey 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck yeah dude, always pumped to see one of your videos.
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@nocode881 4 жыл бұрын
Great videos. I can’t tell ya how helpful your short explanations are. I love hearing about routing and effects. Please keep them coming and I’ll keep watching. Thanks again for your time.
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I never know whether it's useful or just irrelevant blathering so good to know.
@timburdsey 2 жыл бұрын
That first acid jam had me reaching for the pingers! 😳😉😂
@isher9035 4 жыл бұрын
You are straight-up goals, man.
@Synthchaser 4 жыл бұрын
Really, really good songs! I can't wait to see what you do with all the ARPs!
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Nathan :)
@alexjung5129 4 жыл бұрын
I love these videos, it would be great to see you do something similar with maybe some more common/inexpensive mixers from boss or otherwise. Again, it's so cool to see you do this stuff although it would also be really cool if your viewers, who don't have the deepest pockets, could go out and try it for themselves without spending a lot of money!
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah totally understand. It's more a question of the character of something. If an inexpensive mixer just has a straightforward sound with no colour then great, but it's not going to make for an interesting video (in my mind). If something inexpensive does something in particular that takes a sound somewhere then that would be perfect. Will have to keep an eye out.
@MSM5500 4 жыл бұрын
Soundcraft Signature mixers become interesting when it comes to their mid bell shape EQ knobs which can work as a band pass filter modulator.
@jawoody9745 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to see you using the "SL' Avatar" Alex!
@raggedrec 4 жыл бұрын
really enjoying your vids Alex
@derekholland3328 Жыл бұрын
final track was super gnarly!
@Makebelieve123 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Alex !
@NPrescott 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video and production! I love all the retro gear you have on display and in use. I have to say that the 2nd performance was my favorite; Although all were top notch! :)
@GregShaw 4 жыл бұрын
That was awesome so glad I randomly found this!!
@zammotaylor 4 жыл бұрын
Such a nice guy. Such great videos!
@MisAnnThorpe 4 жыл бұрын
I've met him - I sold him the Avatar - and he struck me as the kind of person I'd want for a friend. Unfortunately, I'm not!
@richardalldredge9129 4 жыл бұрын
Been listening to that new album of yours. That thing is amazing!!! Do more!!! If you could do one using like more vintage modular machines, that would be amazing!!!!!!
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. There will be more vintage modular when I'm able.
@baddriddimworkshop 5 ай бұрын
Damn I love this guy...
@edwallace3704 4 жыл бұрын
Superb video Alex
@THEREALDATALORD 4 жыл бұрын
Nice demonstration. Lovely seeing this vintage kit shown off. (tune your kicks lower)
@THEREALDATALORD 4 жыл бұрын
The second jam at the end was proper. No tuning needed.
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers. The DX is the only drum machine with tuning from the three I used and it gets quite aliasey in a bad way when tuned too far down.
@alison_synths 4 жыл бұрын
that DX snare!!
@titovalasques 4 жыл бұрын
A.L.I.S.O.N Heavy A F.
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
DX is a beefy boy. Probably my favourite drum machine that I own.
@shookmusic 4 жыл бұрын
great work Alex!
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Jasper 👊
@DustyEktpo 4 жыл бұрын
You should definitively make a feat with Look Mum No Computer! Your work and sounds are amazing!!
@photovore099 4 жыл бұрын
Damn! That mixer is hot action!!
@nofretzDW 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds amazing. Great work.
@cdwhiley 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know you dabbled in the acid-esque 4x4 world. I like this. Thanks Alex.
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I have been known.
@evilscientistrecords 4 жыл бұрын
Phase II has that awesome Gary Numan / Tubeway Army vibe, great stuff!
@vaspers 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. Great music you make!
@pardonmysandwich6943 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent programming! Cheers!
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@peter-utrblk 4 жыл бұрын
Great show. Thank you a lot.
@eancurtis9333 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds huge!!
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the compression from the saturation certainly fattens it up.
@NicholasBryantBonzaiSequoias 3 жыл бұрын
Like the design of that mixer/expander pair, it would make sense in contemporary project studios - expand when required without having to replace. One trick I used when I got my first mixer (all 6 channels of it!) with Fx and Monitor send.. Use the monitor (pre fade) send with a delay (no feedback on the delay itself) that is returned to a channel. This allows panning, eq and feedback via channel monitor send. Good for dub FX as you can eq in realtime.
@will8043 4 жыл бұрын
amazing work
@gorillabraudcast474 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds freaking amazing man! We run a very simular set up for making rap beats very similar textures.
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. Actually you've made me think, I bet live drum loops sound great through it too. Perfect for hip hop etc.
@Behnan 4 жыл бұрын
the last one is really unique...great tune
@GNeuman 4 жыл бұрын
Great demo!
@LouisSerieusement 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you so much for sharing !! I obviously loved the first part :p and I'm again astonished by your guitar timming ! Love your channel, cheers !
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong with a bit of 303. Sounds perfect driven and with the bass pumped. Guitar - cheers. Thought I'd mix it up.
@LouisSerieusement 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic This mixer sounds really good when overdriven with the 303, it's not always the case but here the distorted 303 sounds just perfect !
@nakanda 4 жыл бұрын
I loved that!!! sounds a little bit saturated, but I looovee that!
@Angelstarscotland 4 жыл бұрын
This is great, I’d love to see you your processes you used for making your album, which I love btw top of my lists for listening to.
@tim_arterbury 4 жыл бұрын
The JAMZ 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@dillipphunbar7924 4 жыл бұрын
very cool I'm so jelly
@XnazxulX 4 жыл бұрын
Man love the sound of that over driven 606
@deejaynoizecph 3 жыл бұрын
5:00 for the gentle knob caress *sighs*
@JIDEHHIGHELEMENTS 3 жыл бұрын
got subscribed on this one ! the track is fire !!
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@JIDEHHIGHELEMENTS 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic where can I find some of your music to listen , thx
@thesset3666 4 жыл бұрын
amazing sound bravo!
@McN4styFilth 4 жыл бұрын
Damn that jam at the end was disgusting. Love your channel man!
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers. Your channel name suggests you'd like a track that. :)
@McN4styFilth 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic Oh hell yeah man. I just came back to listen to it again!
@janipashkvan797 4 жыл бұрын
I use the Ibanez RM70 for synths all the time, high and low mids eq, which is so useful. And they are very cheap
@tomblaze2 4 жыл бұрын
Love that dirty mixer sound - YUM
@muralist_ 4 жыл бұрын
Shiiit. really love the shit you make!
@shufflephunk 5 ай бұрын
Love your work my friend, you heard of the new OTO BOOM Bebe cherie? Also seems to have an amazing soundquality
@kikkirow 4 жыл бұрын
That was so epic! I would like it without guitar in the end though.
@JohnEternal 4 жыл бұрын
that track in the background at :57 is so chill and excellent
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I was trawling my archives and found that from back in 2007. Thought it would be nice as underscore.
@JohnEternal 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic Is it available to buy?
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnEternal I'll run off an MP3 and send you think next week.
@lorenmorgan1931 4 жыл бұрын
I think Alex just went full one Reznor here! on the second demo! Add some super white noise distorted guitar and you have a PHM tribute song going!
@dustincassidy 4 жыл бұрын
Totally awesome!
@theinternetseekers2436 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds infinetly better than working in a daw
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Has a sound for sure.
@user-qf4zs6qj4c 4 жыл бұрын
Compared to my rig the clarity, separation, and low noise levels are amazing. Maybe my Xenyx mixer sucks, or I'm too heavy handed with the reverb and delay, I dunno.
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Is the Xenyx a Behringer mixer?
@benanderson89 4 жыл бұрын
You'll be too heavy with the reverb and delay with/or too little compression and/or bad stereo seperation. Less is more with mixing.
@user-qf4zs6qj4c 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic It is indeed. It's the 3.6 roentgen of mixers - not great, not terrible.
@user-qf4zs6qj4c 4 жыл бұрын
@@benanderson89 Very likely. In particular I've never really applied compression except to the stereo mixdown after recording (I'm trying to work dawless as much as possible). Mind you I don't think compression was used here by Alex?
@TheAstroKid 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the good old day’s midi 👍🏿🎧
@llmrfantasticll 4 жыл бұрын
Whens the album coming out?
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Two weeks ago: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdCXos56v7_QeHk.html
@HornieCow 4 жыл бұрын
7:26 Level 2 is freaking awesome!!! thats really cool. :)
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@THEREALDATALORD 4 жыл бұрын
That last jam reminds me of Chemical Brothers. Respect.
@bossasupremo5879 4 жыл бұрын
Ye, though they gazed with great scrutiny upon the finalé, the people of Utubea saw that it was indeed Grand for it did not suck in any way. And it came to pass that the compliments bestowed upon him numbered more than the birds of the air, or the lilies of the field.
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Bless you child.
4 жыл бұрын
I'll have to check out the Boss video first.. would rather see one with true effects loop and I'm partial to Boss stuff from that era. Very tasty high end results on that equipment.
@jokkejens 3 жыл бұрын
Dope!
@mconstant007 4 жыл бұрын
Why does this sound so much better than... Anything 😭 Now everything else is ruined.
@bobz1736 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Alex... blow your whistle!!!
@gibafilm 4 жыл бұрын
Love this mixer - it is the same like ibanez rm 60, in addition I have the rm 80, which is even better with parametric mids. Wire a feedback loop with an old midiverb /-fex and you have a synth already 8-)
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Didn't know there was an 80. As I understand, Ibanez badged the Maxon mixers outside of Japan, but they're identical. Does that sound right?
@gibafilm 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic I guess so. For sure Ibanez badged their pedals Maxon, and it seems also the rm 60, because it looks identical. The 80 has not the toy-like colors, but it has semi-parametric mids and 8 channels each with send/return. I didn't know there was a rm 100 expander. As always cool demo Alex, looking forward to your Avatar documentary
@tactul7376 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic Totally right! I got hold of the schematics and be it Maxon or Ibanez, they are the same. Have to agree with Giba, the RM80 has some great benefits, especially the indiv. send/returns, but optically the RM60 is way above, the 80 also is quite fiddly as they placed the 8 channels into the same casing as the 60
@Basslcal 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, I really look up to this channel for inspiration and as a great learning tool! Would love to know the tabs for that little guitar noodle bit
@lymangreen5020 4 жыл бұрын
You got a lot of great equipment!! And kinda look like Howard Jones!! 👍👍👍
@michaelluciano1980 4 жыл бұрын
10:45 remind me a bit of Alive 2007 dooooope
@ringtangting Жыл бұрын
Gosh, that 606 is sounding righteous! Any post-processing?
@sonnyobrien 4 жыл бұрын
well done - you would make black moth super rainbow happy
@michaelrhodes9178 4 жыл бұрын
The one man band nice✌🏾2020
@skunchtv 4 жыл бұрын
that was great
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@AndreasR86 4 жыл бұрын
"driven a little bit, but not too hard" Allow me to disagree. But despite artistic disagreements, what it all does sounds nice.
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Fair enough. It's subjective; some people have said it's driven too much for their taste and others love it.
@anonymex22 Жыл бұрын
Full beans is just too much anyway round 1 and 2 sounds great! Analog sounds rocks as well as this mixer!
@kernalkarma4752 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fun fun .
@pkarvo 4 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. Firstly, get yourself a good table bro, save your knees! ;) Secondly thought there was a tad too much saturation on that last jam, sounded good with bass n drums but a bit too mushy with all the tracks in. Though nice to see/hear those little steps of saturation that gives old music that sought after mojo.
@jesseanderson3835 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Alex, love your content. Any chance you have a workflow video of how you get your drum patterns setup in your DAW? I have a couple old drum machines with patterns I'm digging but finding it difficult to rebuild them one sample at a time or create interesting fills when in the box. Would it be best to record a few patterns as a whole then chop them up and arrange them as needed? Cheers from TX.
@modularmountain3910 4 жыл бұрын
Samples of these would have been awesome!
@jamesfindice2871 3 жыл бұрын
Yo, loved the video and sounds! How similar soundwise is the maxon rm804x to the RM-60?
@fantasyproduct1042 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect!!!!!!!
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@RobertDorschel 4 жыл бұрын
Wondering what, pre-mastering, that noise floor sounded like. Probably a seashore at the in-tide
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR 4 жыл бұрын
The Guitologist is looking for the modules for a guitar synthesizer to fix a guitar with missing module, I think you have a club hit on your hands as I could see people dancing to that.
@jayfunk5988 3 жыл бұрын
Some crazy shit going on, sounds dope as fuck!
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@napkinshoplifta5163 3 жыл бұрын
dope
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