Nintendos gonna be laughing at this video once they give line marker enough paint to cover the map.

the fact that fizzy outclasses curling in every way possible (damage, ink cost, poking power, etc.) and they havent even LOOKED at adjusting curling in any way is insane to me

Don’t forget the fact that angle shooter’s reticle is still broken and its placement under the main weapon reticle really hurts your chances of getting directs when tapping R

I also personally feel like the Sprinkler should always have it's Stage 1 active all the time since even with all these buffs, it's still a bit underwhelming

I think the change they need to make for Sprinkler is to, y’know, make it more similar to a real life water sprinkler. Y’know, the kind that generally shoots in one straight line as it slowly turns? That way, the sub can turn into a sort of turret area denial tool that is flexible since it can stick to walls. We can make it so that the range rivals Splattershot Pro or maybe even Squeezer, but only have the Sprinkler fire in a more fixed direction, making a sort of semi-circle or even triangular shot, instead of the full circle around it that we see in-game. Not only would that make it more similar to a real life sprinkler, but this also balances the new range that’d be given to it.

make the sprinkler itself bigger i want it to have more opportunities to be used as a shield such a cool use of it but looks so inconsistent

I think pretty much all of your ideas are spot on, but unfortunately, I think they sort of "intend" for these sub weapons to be worse, so they can give them to kits to nerf them. It's unfortunate because I think many of the ideas you suggested would make many kits a lot more interesting (it's generally way more interesting to have a strong kit with strong tools rather than mediocre ones) but I'm skeptical that they'll change it.

I thought about how cool it could be if toxic mist also functioned as a smoke bomb. It's opaque at first (for the enemy team) then it becomes translucent until the mist dissipates. It would help with both fighting and escaping and make the sub more unique

I think it will be a really cool idea to make toxic mist into a MIST, blocking opposing team vision by making it opaque. That can make it dangerous to go through and apply pressure by blocking information from scouting and adding the ability for sneak attacks. Also, a bit of constant damage like storm would be nice.

One idea I had for a Speinkler rework was a Sprinkler-G. Basically a Destroyable Squee-G enemy that carries a sprinkler towards Enemy Ink. It moves more slowly than the one in single player and can be destroyed. It also does not destroy your teams ink.

Angle shooter is really interesting as a utility sub, it sucks that its underwhelming… I had 2 ideas of buffing it, (1. If the marker hits an opponent it will ricochet to another player closer to the opponent you hit.) (2. If the market hits a wall it’ll do a mini explosion and continue on it’s normal route.) I really like your ideas for Angle Shooter/Line Marker buffs as well!

I think a fun buff for Sprinkler might be halving the ink cost and letting you have two out at a time. That way it could compete with bombs for painting power, and dividing the enemies attention between two different painting spots would be useful

I def think that Curling Bomb should be 45% of your ink tank, but remember that by lowering the trail it goes it has a bigger explosion, so I think the amount of ink used for curling should increase as you charge the bomb, up to 60%.

Worth noting that they decided to give all the new kits this season utility subs but haven't even touched them balance-wise. Hopefully they'll actually get around to that in the mid season patch

Nintendo is gonna make line marker one shot and paint the entire map and will still be F tier.

I personally like the idea that toxic mist becomes a smoke grenade. Increase the range of by like 20 or 15% and make the most for enemies a thick cloud that you can’t see through, while teammates see it less opaquely (same thickness as today’s mist). This would allow better team support for tri-stringer and more of an option for things like tri-sloshed.

I'd love to see a new mechanic that would make sprinkler focused on both painting and keeping a hold of that area for just a little longer. Maybe they could add a change where upon being destroyed it will have a breakdown animation and then cause a weak explosion of 60 damage, the radius of the explosion would be dependent on the strength phase it was on, where the first 5 seconds it's radius is a torpedo explosion (with pellets), the next 10 seconds would be a burst bomb radius, and the weakest would be an uncharged fizzy bomb. Of course this wouldn't apply to throwing another sprinkler, in which it would just disappear like normal. This would make sprinkler a little better for aggressive weapons and give other weapons a way to affect areas they normally can't if they don't have map control.

I would love sprinkler to have a burst fire period, maybe for the first 1-2 seconds that paints the area much faster. The effective time of the normal painting mode could be reduced to compensate for this, but it would make it possible to paint yourself an area while being aggressive

One idea I like as a toxic mist buff is giving it the ability to do damage over time. But rather than just a flat amount of damage over time like ink storm, it should be based off movement speed and be non-lethal like standing in enemy ink (so imagine a player trying to speed through the cloud taking 20-30 damage, while standing still would do no damage and only drain ink). I think this would nicely compliment toxic mist's design as a tool for area denial, as currently it's far to easy for an opponent to just rush through it. With this change they would suffer a small but lingering punishment for it, one that's weak on it's own but could be vital for certain weapon combos or team fights. Additionally, I think angle shooter is actually the sub weapon that should get the effect of splatoon 1 disrupter on a direct hit. Like you said, the reward for landing a hit with the most difficult sub weapon in the game is painfully small, and though the damage and tracking could be increased I feel like there's never going to be a happy middle-ground where it's enough to be satisfying without also being kinda broken (looking at you burst bomb). With a disrupter effect though, even just 1-2 seconds of slowing down an enemy mid-fight can be really impactful without enabling sniping from across the map like we'd see if it did as much damage as burst bomb. And finally if they really wanted, they could also lean into the "angles" aspect by having the disruption time increase for every time the angle shooter bounces before hitting it's target.

i have always thought that the direction at which sprinkler sprays ink should track opponents that enter its painting range allowing it to take on more of a "Turret" role and fit in better with weapons that want an aggressive sub and can combo off the 20 damage like light tetra

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For toxic mist I would find it interesting if it works like point sensor. Like, we throw the mist and when the player is only touched by it, it got the same effects than it already have, but during a certain time. So the player can play, but is slow down and can't recharge his ink, even if he's not anymore in the mist. Maybe it would give it more usefulness.

I think that a good point sensor buff would be if it showed how much damage someone has on them while they're marked. It would have the thermal ink effect on the person, but only up to how much damage they've taken. For example: if someone marked by the point sensor has taken 50 damage (half health) then the thermal ink glow effect would be halfway up the enemy's body

If toxic mist would ever recieve buffs, it shouldn't be more spammable. In lower levels (S and below) it can already be a menace bc people avoid it more. You can already deny 2 snipe areas without sub saver and block areas quite effectively or help teammates kill enemies, all more effective in lower level games. It needs buffs but they should try to make it better in higher level games

An idea I had for the point sensor sub is that if an opponent that's already marked gets close to a teammate, then they will also get marked by the point sensor for a shorter duration. Kind of similar to how the bubbler worked with sharing it's shield

An idea I have for sprinkler is to turn it into a sentry. When a player is in its range it’ll start shooting at them and be a 5 shot to not make it busted. It’s vertical range will be smaller than its horizontal range to prevent certain sprinkler spots from being to broken

i love how every issue w this game comes down to the map layouts 😭 really disappointing work by them that they haven’t done anything to address the maps radically

I had an idea to make line marker better, or two separate ideas. The first idea is to have a line of paint underneath, maybe have a small explosion when hitting a player (similar to hitting a wall) The second idea is to make it like a throwing knife. Reduce the ink cost to 35 percent to 30, maybe even 25, percent. Then greatly reduce the end lag after throwing one, or something to allow you to rapidly throw them one after another. If that sounds too op, reduce the damage or the track time.

It is pretty disappointing that they haven’t touched the sun balance patch at all yet especially we have subs like sprinkler, line marker, and curling. As a dedicated explo main I know it’ll get a utility sub for its 2nd kit (probably sprinkler) I hope it gets changes soon so I won’t be totally disappointed.

When I first saw Line Marker, I jokingly thought to myself that it looked like an ink rail. Do with this headcanon what you will.

Translated by Google: With the beacons you can as a "Teleporter Support" A tip for the beacon: Place beacons in unnoticed parts of the map to keep you and your allies on the move safely.

Great vid, loved It wasnt a normal tier list

the roller clip from 8:37 was extremely satisfying

I'm not always on board with some of your suggestions, but you're on absolute fire recently.

As for Toxic Mist and Line Marker I'd change it around a bit, Strengthen the effect for the former and have it disable Squid Roll/Surge, Instead putting the Distruptor effect on Line Marker as a reward for hitting a direct which allows it to pin down enemies trying to escape

3 ideas for Curling: Charging curling bomb makes it go faster, with the fully charged version going twice or maybe even three times as fast Or, you could give curling bomb a sprinkler making it the ultimate inking tool, but make the end explosion less lethal OR, you could give curling a tiny bubble shield, allowing the user to safely do mix-ups

Omega Strikers music is soooo cool during your explanations 😍

Also for Line Marker, just make it aim with your reticle! It’s so unintuitive to have it aim underneath your weapon, especially with weapons that shoot in straight lines!

I mean honestly tho, just to be a peak contarian, i thought this before watchin’ the Pikadave guide on it back when slosher deco came out, but especially after watching him i legitimately believe Line Marker is a pretty good sub. Burst Bomb is a harsh comparison, i mean… They’ve had to tone down that damn thing ever since the first game and seem to continue to do it lol. But even then, you got a super low comital, very long range, instant speed projectile that can paint your feet while attacking far away enemies in the same line due to it bouncing at very shallow angles off floors, it’s the ACTUAL cheapest sub weapon now due to burst bomb’s nerfs, it’s not honestly too bad to hit people with, i’ve gotten a fair few kills. But even then, your constellation prize for missing is a lingering lil’ location, which is VERY nice for gettin’ accurate shots for somethin’ as precise as a slosher or rapid blaster. I think it IS worth the cost of using the marker alot of the time, (especially cuz ya know, it’s super cheap) it’s at least way better imo than stuff like curling bomb or sprinkler to me. Just throwin’ it put between every 3 or 4 sloshes just FEELS good.

So as a new player, what I'm getting out of this is that Nintendo is a lot like Morshu. "Bombs? Bombs? Bombs? You want it? It's yours my friend! As long as you have enough Power Eggs!"

A sprinkler buff I also had in mind would have been to give weapons 2 sprinkler (similar to beakons).That way, you at least have some more opportunities for map control and it might be pretty decent with another small buff on top of that.

I also like Sprinkler but sadly I usually only toss if i'm spawning at base. The cost reduction and hp boost would be a huge help so people don't instantly kill it leaving us just short a huge chunk of ink.

I swear the shrugging chara(cter) pic is gonna be one of, if not the, most used for your vids. I see it everytime

Personally, I think a upgrade to toxic mist is it would be really cool if your vision is a bit blurry when in the mist and out of it for a few seconds!

Regarding toxic mist, if it’s meant to be an area denial tool, giving it a similar damage effect to ink storm would definitely help. While this is a relatively large overhaul of the sub, it would preform its job much better.

Hi chara, I also got some sub weapon buff ideas, Inkmine/beakon - if you could throw the mine/beakon a little bit further then curling bomb. so you could get them at higher and further away. And you could get it at beter and strategic places Curling bomb - if you make white frames shorter then you could use them more but you can't use two in a row. Sprinkler - if the sprinkler shot more horizontally and had a faster fire rate but had worse paint and had more HP it could be a real era denial weapon. Line marker - for line marker I think it is an interesting idea to make the utility better by making if you would walk through the line the you get targeted like stingray or Thermal Ink (maybe the same for point sensor) and make the line a DPS hit zone. Toxic mist - if the ink consument is les or if the white ink frames are less but there can only be 2 or 3 out at the same time then you can use them more and not make the to spamming. Sub weapons in general - the idea for having two sub weapons at the same time (one utility and one bomb) is still I think a great idea. I hope you maybe like some of my ideas. And I would love to hear a review of my buffs. Sorry for the bad grammar😅

So I’ve got a wild idea for toxic mist. What if we gave it dps, like an actual poison effect? Nothing significant, but enough where if you stood in it for like 3/4 duration you’d be one shot away

A weird thought about how to buff line marker came to me a while ago, what if when you hit a direct on somebody instead of it just ending the line it redirects to the nearest enemy with it's leftover distance until it runs out of range?

Line marker is actually one of my favorite subs right now. It feels SO satisfying to snipe someone with it, especially when it lands a kill (which obviously doesn’t happen often). I think the sub is super weak still, but I love love using it.

Every since I started playing Splatoon 3 I have always said that line marker should have a trip wire function. I think that would make the sub actually useful. Hopefully the devs actually add that to the game

Good video the usual But the Omega Strikers music Jumpscared me 😭 Last resort Omega Strikers when? /j

What if you get a direct hit with a sprinkler it attaches to the enemy’s head for 5 secs or until a teammate destroys it

Hi Prochara i was thinking about the Splatana stamper and i want to use it as my main (i have a full gear just for splatana stamper 90% of it is main saver😩) and I've seen some videos withe u playing the stamper and it woud be nice if u coud give me any advice because i am pretty knew to Splatoon 3 and when i played the Demo i loved the splatana.👍

Would it be too much for point sensor to locate until being splatted?

7:30 what if they make point sensors location have thermal ink?

I think toxic mist should have a lingering effect of like 2 to 3 seconds after you leave it that way it can be a sub you actually might need to worry about

Never thought Lego Yoda would be in a Chara vid

"Line Marker's line should be able to hurt you just once". Ok but imagine 4 people running Line Markers and getting yourself cheese-grated just by walking by accident into 4 lines. That would be hilarious.

I wanna use angle shooter so bad but i hate it not being lined up with the reticle, havent played in months but that change could be really helpful to try and get chip damage vs inkjet

I'm no pro but when I tried out Painbrush after playing lots of Tri Nouveau I did wonder why curling exists. Would it be so bad if you just replaced every weapon that has curling to fizzy?

Some data I might calculate is to take your main, special, and sub lists and look at the correlation. Direct stats on which subs and specials have the most good weapons, which have the most poor weapons, etc.

line marker. I love it, but on top of what you said: - Where the marker is thrown should be right in the center of your weapon's reticle for easy aim. - A larger beam radius would make it easier for enemies to step into and get chipped by the 20 damage. - and finally about 50 or 55 damage (instead of 40) plus that 10 seconds of location for a direct hit could make good aim seriously valuable. any buff to line marker would be a godsend because it's so much fun to use

would it make sense to have each weapon kit have a bomb/lethal and a util sub? i think it would

Nintendo just need to sought out the balance of them then we’d all be fine. Especially line marker, sprinkler

ngl, I think suction bomb should be able to break a squid roll. It'd make it stand out a bit more instead of just being the tower control bomb. Maybe make it slightly more ink hungry as a trade off for the buff.

Reagarding point sensor and toxic mist I actually have an idea. What if they are merged to one?

Something i thought about for curling Now that the splash gets bigger woth charge, what if the curling was a base 40-45% but took more ink the more you charge, going up like 20% at max? It makes sense and you basically never charge it so it would be a net buff anyway

Excellent Video. Even if no redesign, make the utility subs cheaper.. that would go a long way to helping them balance bombs

For point sensor I propose we allow it to "mark" an oppenent that increases damage from all sources by 10% that breaks damage thresholds. What this would do includes: Benefit existing weapons - Naut and nova take 1 less shot to splat + Explo direct dealing 99 damage On demand object shredder - for helping to deal with crab and booyah Makes chip damage more dangerous Could work well with certain specials such as rain or wave It would make sensor the sub for weapons that want to improve their own weapon directly and i could see some brushes, rollers and stringers really wanting something like this.

the best way to buff sprinkler is to increase the fire rate massively, so that although it just paints over what it already has painted, it will actually be a threat and can take space.

I miss and want back old OG Splatoon sprinkler. It didn't have the five seconds of high paint mode it dues currently, but it also never went into low power mode; staying in what we now call medium power mode endlessly until destroyed. Unpopular opinion: I really liked Saltspray Rig due to maining long range weapons back in the first game, and my favorite thing to do there was to pop a Sprinkler on the moving crane in the north area. It would almost always survive an obscene amount of time and get me high scores in turf wars despite not playing terribly paint-focused weapons like a lot of players were using back then.

I wonder if Nintendo’s idea of curling bomb is to be flexible between normal throwing it for mobility and charging it for poking with a larger AoE 1-shot. Here’s my idea While it does need to be cheaper, 45% feels too cheap. I think 55% will do for it, making it slightly cheaper than fizzy bomb. However, charging the curling bomb is faster, making it quicker to throw out a short fuse curling to poke. There would be a tiny delay before it begins to charge though, so you can still throw out a no charge curling for max distance by simply tapping the sub weapon button

6:18 I never knew Squid Beakon did that. Cool.

I'd like any combination of three things for Toxic Mist: 1) Strongly improved duration 2) Strongly reduced ink cost 3) have the effects tuned up to be at least eqivalent to being stuck in enemy ink. It's a great area denial tool, but it's got two main issues: It's not a good barrier tool, the most it's going to do with slowing down anyone passing through it is mess up a clam throw. And it's too expensive (both in ink and attention) to keep up on an area. The disruptor effect on hit honestly feels lke it would feel better on line marker, both as a direct effect and as something applied when passing through the lingering wire.

An additional change I would like to see with Curling Bomb is that the more you hold it the more ink hungry the bomb is. So just using curling uses 45% and the more you hold it the more ink hungry it gets. I would say at max it would go to 65%. Plus this can also prevent double Hold R curling at lower levels.

Noticed some Omega Strikers music in the background. I know you're a splatuber, but I would love to see you play Omega Strikers for a video.

add the ability to ride inside the curling bomb in squid mode, so that you can go fast without needing swim speed up

I said it once and I will say it again, but the sizzle season introduced weapons that showed how you don’t need bombs (if you don’t count curling bomb) for a weapon’s kit to be good. However, it also showed how these weapons are and can be hold back by these under powered utility subs.

its so funny and tragic that every single issue in this game is compounded by the map design being so one-note, and yet nintendo just refuses to fix it

Do you think giving Toxic Mist a damage effect akin to when standing in enemy ink would be too powerful?

I was, and still am, astonished that the Line Marker doesn't have trip wire mechanics on it. I mean, it does, but just not for damage. It's the least they can do to make it in any way better than it is right now.

i main nautilus and that change for the point sensor is something i NEED, i only ever use rain and the main weapon

0:26 wait what? Why is splash wall so high up? I get more use out of the angle shooter than splash wall. Whenever I try to use splash wall defensively, it's either thrown off the platform I'm on or fails to reach the platform I'm trying to place it on. At least angle shooter has utility as a tripwire and keeping track of retreating enemies.

For line marker I think it would be cool to make it do extra damage to scanned enemies

What I've wished for sprinkler is having a cap of 2 instead of 1 so it can actually be used for painting

2:02 This bomb is practical in large airspaces it takes IQ to know how to use it.👍👍 my opinion A tier

Here is an idea: what if sprinkler could target players and shoot at them like a turret when they come into range? It could return to sprinkling when no one is around, too!

They should add a turret mode to sprinkler where it fires weak shots at nearby enemys but causes it to stale faster.

ideas: Point sensor echolocates, but also gives everyone still in its radius the Thermal Ink effect where you can directly see the model through walls -gives more information on located enemies Sprinkler blows up like a torpedo when destroyed -annoying Curling starts its detonation right away if it hits an enemy -actual weapon functionality Toxic mist drains 8% special gauge per second to anyone using a special inside of it -crab and kraken counter Line marker slows an enemy down for 1 second after being hit -better combos

i kinda wanted line marker to be a one shot on a direct hit, and it having a kw 5.1 laser effect afterwards.

I love that sprinkler can do all the things that you say bombs do and more

Imagine a future where you can throw Ink Mines even half the distance of a pre-patch Tacticooler

This is what i think point sensor, and sprinkler needs: Appart from giving more info about the enemy as chara said, it should be able to have the respawn punish effect if someone kills the enemy while detected the first 3 seconds. Now it has a strong punish capacity. I think that sprinkler needs an owerall improvment, it is supposed to be the painting sub and it doesn't do the job well. Way more hp, the enough so you have to take a while to break it, and it should be bigger, so we can improve that body shielding propiety. No levels at all, it stays in a in between level 1 and 2, and way more range.

had to double take at 2:50 with the omega strikers music and check if I accidentally had the game open in the background

I also think that lethal bombs need a better cue to let you know that you have one exploding next to you, i love the fact that they use sound instead of a visual indicator like every other game to reduce visual overload but a lot of times i think it’s not effective enough, and not everyone plays with headphones either because they can’t or just don’t want to and shouldn’t be expected to do so. I noticed that it’s worse in Splatoon 3 compared to 2, so maybe it has something to do with the worse latency and bombs just explode sooner that their audio cue, specially when the connection isn’t perfectly stable. Also i have ADHD so i just don’t immediately notice them lol, although I always found that Splatoon has always been really good at not being too much, always riding that sweet spot between lots of stimulation and overload

I had a random idea for a buff to the throwable Utility Subs (PS and TM) that direct collision would deal 5 damage, which isn't a lot, but does combo with weapons like Nova with its Point Sensor to make it a 4 shot

A few sub balance ideas i had: What if when you held sprinkler for a few seconds, it turned into a turret that tracked opponents (same accuracy as splashomatic, 20.0 damage per shot) i would also increase the health of the sprinkler My idea for line marker is that if an opponent walks into the line left behind, they get tripped (or stunned for .5 seconds) and if you get a direct, the opponent gets stunned for 1 second (would also buff damage to 45 and increase tracking effect on direct to 8 seconds) this change would give it more damage combos and would greatly increase the reward for hitting

Sprinkle buff: when placed on wall or ceiling the ink pelets can block main weappn shots but keeps decay. The ink pelet can block one shot. But the ink pelet will also be destroyed.

Imagine you could use the linemarker as an inkrail. You throw it, jump and swim in it

Yet another idea for curling bomb - make the charge throw go the full distance instead of shorter. Or distance could be controlled by angle similar to Super Chump, with charge time only affecting the explosion size. This would give it a lot more variety of uses.