Time to Pirate

All I know is plugin piracy bout to sky rocket (allegedly)

I’m anti pirating but would feel zero remorse pirating waves plugins now. And I’ve been super loyal to them since 2014

That’s why I went fab filter, total bundle. 😢

Wow that's unbelievable man, thanks for making this aware.

What’s so shady is that literally the day before they did this they sent out an email about 10% off plugins and select bundles. And then next day is like “can’t buy them individually anymore”

Welp UAD and Plugin Alliance got all of the rest of pie now! 😂

i cant relate i only have the pirate version...lol

I absolutely agree. Even with the DAW companies. I don't understand the concept of paying more than $399 for an update, if u already have a professional from previous version. Im an Ableton user but FL Studio is the best DAW ever all things considered .

Bye Waves! Hello Fabfilter, Softube, Eventide, Arturia, Toneboosters, Klanghelm, TDR, Kush… and many more … ... from now on my money goes to better companies!

It would make sense to be a marketing ploy. I used to play MCOC and they did this often. Upset all of the community. Then they rolled back the changes and it made it seem like they listened. The community would feel relief and continue to give the company money. Now if Waves changes where you can buy the plugins I still won't go back.

Thank you for speaking on this fam!

If Waves treats their loyal base this way, how will they treat their subscribers in the future?

I so don't regret buying almost all of fabfilter and some u-he synths. Updates, rock solid, great sound, one payment.

Hello Sir, You guys have changed the game as of this morning! They brought back what they took away...💪

THIS IS NOT OK! Waves RIP

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RIP WAVES 🪦

This is an opportunity for more companies to get into the plugin market and get ready more plugins will be incorporated to our various daws for free.

4:02 you were right 🤣 they just did that

F Waves

Excellently put ... As waves dropped subscription pluggin alliance gave out free pluggins 🎉🎉🎉

Your so right.....

Can anyone help with free alternatives of waves plug-ins

Ban them 100% guys. That’s the only way to keep greedy companies honest.. F subscriptions….

Yes I used to use the free trial but then they mess it up

You will own nothing an be happy

i use pirated one

i used to respect and love waves for their plugins, but now after this all my respect is for Fabfilter, Arturia... and all the other companies

I have the ZIP package for waves. But I also know that some people can afford the month by month. Financial situations matter bruv. Sometimes you have to cancel to afford the phone bill ya dig

i have a few waves plugins that i didnt get the latest version of..it says that theyre activated in my account but i can use then because i didnt update since i switched computers...am i not able to keep them now?do i lose them fully? because im not subscribing.....

I agree!

Honestly this is why I started buying analog gear again.

I agree with you bro

the video i needed, i forgot about them i seen on the net that their bad company

R.I.P. Waves.

The problem is that it isn't value for money long-term. Maybe if they did the full package for 9.99 i may have stayed with them but wont be purchasing any more plugins with them. They should have kept 2 business models, buy to keep a subscription based.

HQ location is Tel Aviv, Interesting.

Important Update: Perpetual Licenses and Updates Will Be Back Alongside Subscriptions Mar 29, 2023 Following your feedback, we are bringing back the option to purchase and update perpetual Waves plugin and bundle licenses, side-by-side with the new Waves Creative Access subscriptions. We are working to make perpetual licenses available to you again as quickly as possible. We will post real-time updates here as soon as they are available.

That’s why you pirate it :D

Warning: In the T&Cs it says "All updates are provided to you on a license exchange basis such that you agree, as a precondition for recieving an update, that you will terminate all your rights to use any previous version of the software." Thus if you sign up for the subscription, in turn you update your plugins and no longer have license to older versions (that your perpetual license sit under!) Dont support this company anymore and send a message to the rest of the industry! beside who want to put their projects behind a paywall that a company like waves can at any point crank up the pricing? don't do it, own your tools.

For those of us that bought plugins before this will keep those?

We still gonna get paid 😂😂😂😂

I don't mess with Waves plug-ins. I heard a lot of bad stuff about them. Shady

waves will never get another cent from me. I’m not even going to use their products anymore. UA is basically the nice version of waves and they are having a massive sale right now, I’m pretty sure they saw what waves did and were like “bet” 😂

guess what ad they played befor the vid :)))

how do you see what soundcard a laptop has before buying it

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The thing is not to update…because all these companies are going to do this…….they are here for money …:

yeah - Waves is pretty much saying they don't want hobbyist money. Guess I'll give them what they are asking for.

I will always pirate subscription plugins, cause i hate subscriptions. The plugins will never be yours that way

I building a new pc and I will not even bother with downloading their plugins. There’s alternatives to everything in this market.

Like... I'm not nessicarily opposed to subscriptions, I have Izotope and Slate subscriptions. And I use them heavily. I only started diving into mixing a couple of years ago, and only mix my own metal project, so I'm definitely a hobbyist. The problem I have with this Waves thing is that they do not seem to give a single f' about their loyal customers. And that is something I can never support personally in a company.

It's sad times waves subscription so sad

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they are 🐀 blinded by the 🧀

Just got an email from waves, they already rolled some of it back 😂

I hate subscription models for stuff like this. You pay many hundreds of dollars over the course of years and then you drop the subscription and can't use the software anymore... With live service update software like Adobe stuff I kinda understand that they have ongoing costs to cover as they continue to develop the software and update it to newest codecs, formats, hardware, etc. (even though I disagree with it and don't support it. I edit all my videos at my friend's place ;) ) With audio processing plugins that I expect to be finished by the time I acquire them, I don't see the same effort going into maintenance...

i have a question

Thx for that bad news..... don't really like that...waves forces me to pay every month?

I'm pretty confident this is a marketing stunt. My wife, an SEO specialist, is doing some digging around the traffic increase the website gets.

👏💥

waves better do somethiing cuz you jus direct me too there site cuz i learned R bass from you and curtiss king i never new about waves website

the bigger mistake in the music industry 👀

bad move by waves... they bit their longtime stam clientele.. I bought dozens of waves plugins where I have them because I bought them!! If I want to update them now, I have to take out an essential or ultimate subscription, which costs me 14.90 or 24.90.- per month.. and I convert my purchased plugins back into a rental relationship. that's the worst train! 👎🤮😱 .

I’m just want to buy the plug in and just be done with it.

A guy name Frank Pole has been remaking Waves Plugins For FL Studio inside of patcher for Free.

My buddy already got this version cracked somehow

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Time to buy hardeware

Thats why you just download the pirate copy of all them mafukkas :) hahahahaha I got all waves bundles 100% working. Started producing 2008. Never bought a single plugin.

GOODBYE WAVES!!! CANCELLING WAVES TODAY!!!

I don’t mind it you still gonna pay every year to keep it so it’s not a bad deal I actually like that they did that

Also they have "Student Discount" on their website but I got receipts that they don't even give "Student Discounts"!!! So they Fake Frauding!!!!

Haha waves digging their own grave

Waves? Hm, rings a bell I think. Yes right, they used to be a big plugin developer right?

Now they get paid regularly not to innovate :-)

"you will own nothing and be happy"

I hope the other big players like PA etc really look at this and think hard about their own future. STOP STEALING OUR SH**

lol...

Miles Bridges

This is the issue I have with just about alot of companies even Antares autotune. Everyone wants to run a subscription based model and it ruins your customer relationship altogether. I don't want to subscribe. Give me a one time fee.

WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM AGENDA 2030

Waves cannot be at the top all the time !

Waves is a joke. To pay to update your plugins you already bought is so crazy to me. I’d rather just spend the extra money and buy the UAD versions. They sound so much better and you don’t have to pay to keep using stuff you already paid for…

Finneas wins Grammys using stock plugins from Pro Tools.

SaaS (pronounced "sas") is Software as a Service. You own nothing and you are billed forever. Blame Microsoft (Microsoft Office) and Abode for software subscription services where you will pay them them forever.

Booom! And here is the apology of WAVES: Dear Waves community, My name is Meir Shashoua, and I’m the CTO and Co-Founder of Waves Audio. Over the past few days, many of you have expressed concerns about our decision to discontinue perpetual plugin licenses and our move to an exclusive plugin subscription model. I would like to start by apologizing for the frustration we have caused many of you, our loyal customers. We understand that our move was sudden and disruptive, and did not sufficiently take into consideration your needs, wishes, and preferences. We are genuinely sorry for the distress it has caused. After respectfully listening to your concerns, I want to share with you that we are bringing back the perpetual plugin license model, side-by-side with the new subscriptions. You will again be able to get plugins as perpetual licenses, just as before. In addition, those of you who already own perpetual licenses will once again be able to update your plugins and receive a second license via the Waves Update Plan-again, just as before. This option, too, will be available alongside and independently of the subscription program. We are currently putting all our efforts into making perpetual licenses available to you again, as quickly as possible. In the meantime, you can keep up-to-date on this news page, where we will post the latest updates on perpetual license availability. I would like you to know that we are committed to you, our users. We listened to your feedback, and we will continue to listen to you. Waves is a company filled with users and creators, just like you, and we are all as passionate about the products as you are. With this in mind, we will strive to find the way to make things right by you, and hopefully regain your trust. Thank you for your feedback and continued support-I wish you all the best, Meir Shashoua CTO and Co-Founder, Waves Audio

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Terrible decision, not it.

I'm doing everything I can to get away from using waves plugins

another reason why most people don't use pro tools

Boooo waves!

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