Production Basics 1: Phase Cancellation

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@eugenebizzell1148
@eugenebizzell1148 9 жыл бұрын
XD after 14 min "I probably just said a lot of bullshit" like bruh I was taking notes, Now I'm about to fail my exam. This guy is great lmao
@Dragonis
@Dragonis 8 жыл бұрын
"And it's possible that some of the stuff I said was total bullshit." *mind=blown*
@eArtrash
@eArtrash 10 жыл бұрын
I use phase cancellation all the time (in Ableton). If I'm processing a sound and making a very wet or distorted sound, I reverse the polarity and mix it back alongside the original channel, and because effectively all of the tones that haven't been changed are cancelled, all that's left is the new processed sounds - its basically like always having a dry/wet mix. Fun shit.
@anthywhite
@anthywhite 6 жыл бұрын
That's god damn genius!
@dominic8821
@dominic8821 10 жыл бұрын
Production Basics series would be better than Game Of Thrones THERE I SAID IT !!! please do more production tips YOU ARE AWSOME !!!
@realmarsastro
@realmarsastro 5 жыл бұрын
This comment aged incredibly well
@nullevoc
@nullevoc 5 жыл бұрын
@@realmarsastro Tru dat
@Joe71poke
@Joe71poke 10 жыл бұрын
Please do more of this Professor Seamless
@jamie___steele
@jamie___steele 9 жыл бұрын
The only thing I can think of when I look at your profile pic is Ephixa xD
@Joe71poke
@Joe71poke 9 жыл бұрын
EsmealiumCraft Gaming Thanks that's the reason I chose to use it.
@jamie___steele
@jamie___steele 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome :D
@BOSSTOMI2
@BOSSTOMI2 9 жыл бұрын
EsmealiumCraft Gaming to the max
@Joe71poke
@Joe71poke 9 жыл бұрын
BOSSTOMI2 Q.Q
@stringz311
@stringz311 10 жыл бұрын
"..the phase cancellation would actually happen in the air in your own brain." Well shit.
@johanndaart7326
@johanndaart7326 9 жыл бұрын
Oh dude this made me laugh so hard :D
@SatanIsSextingMe
@SatanIsSextingMe 9 жыл бұрын
that's exactly what I was about to comment after hearing it, how fucking trippy is that?
@bob_blob
@bob_blob 10 жыл бұрын
I don't want to sound picky but triangle waveforms don't have all harmonics but only odd number harmonics, the fundamental being number one and so on... Anyway a great application for phase cancellation you haven't mention is the making of accapellas. If you have an instrumental and the orginal track, put them mono and reverse phase of one of the 2 and you get the accapella.
@SeamlessR
@SeamlessR 10 жыл бұрын
Did I say triangles had all the harmonics? If I did I misspoke and meant to say Saw waves.
@bob_blob
@bob_blob 10 жыл бұрын
oh right! my bad!
@Willkftw
@Willkftw 10 жыл бұрын
Can you further explain how to do this? I tried and it did not work
@ElMoShApPiNeSs
@ElMoShApPiNeSs 10 жыл бұрын
SeamlessR I think people (not you in this case) get mixed up between Triangle and Saw waves. I know I used to.
@JohnnyRottenHouseJRH
@JohnnyRottenHouseJRH 10 жыл бұрын
Will Kwiatkowski there's image line tut (fl guru tut) on yt
@Rynnavinx
@Rynnavinx 9 жыл бұрын
Rekt in Pieces FaZe Clan 2010 - 2014 Ded from FaZe cancellation
@aarotoivari8940
@aarotoivari8940 9 жыл бұрын
+Radiant Rayv AHHAHA IM DEAD I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A RANDOM MLG UNFUNNY JOKE BUT IT WAS A PUN SRY IM WEAK
@jokiboy9153
@jokiboy9153 8 жыл бұрын
+Radiant Rayv HAHAHAHAHA.
@GaleDoesMusic
@GaleDoesMusic 7 жыл бұрын
FINALLY, AN ORIGINAL COMMENT
@RosieSapphire
@RosieSapphire 7 жыл бұрын
Seamless, if you see this, please pin this!
@toonyandfriends1915
@toonyandfriends1915 3 ай бұрын
@@aarotoivari8940 this is nostalgic
@frostbyt1134
@frostbyt1134 10 жыл бұрын
Technically, you're right about phase being essentially the start of the wave. In a more specific sense though, phase refers to the offset of the wave relative to the origin. Another way to think of it and much more relative to sound design is that it's the fraction of the wave that has passed relative to the start of the wave and the wave's cycle (aka period, period being the time it takes the wave to return to its starting position).
@evm7368
@evm7368 10 жыл бұрын
"balanced cable" *burp*
@thec4ke
@thec4ke 10 жыл бұрын
Yea balanced cables are one of those brilliant yet simple ideas. Basically the source sends the sound out twice, once with the phase flipped. At the destination, the flipped signal is flipped again and the two are combined (internally they're subtracted, but same thing). Because you flipped the phase of the signal twice (at source and at destination), it doubles. Because you flipped the phase of the noise once (no noise at source), the noise cancels. The technical term is "differential signaling," it's used all over the place in electronics and computers.
@aqua3418
@aqua3418 3 жыл бұрын
Phase cancellation is fun. I've used with two audio files, one instrumental and another one with singing, to subtract things from it by inverting the other one.
@drewmargulis273
@drewmargulis273 10 жыл бұрын
Why are you so brilliant? Literally you are a dictionary of audio production/engineering
@Julien4PresidentxD
@Julien4PresidentxD 5 жыл бұрын
Learning so much on your channel! Sound is so much more interessting than I ever knew! Lucky I found you!
@juanigarcia8405
@juanigarcia8405 10 жыл бұрын
Congrats on your new production series, dude. This is super duper exciting. Your tutorials are the ball. I guess that most of the things you'll cover here already are on your tracks from scratch so it's a great way to attract new viewers that don't have as much time as I do to watch an entire 1 hour video.
@ShallieDragon
@ShallieDragon 9 жыл бұрын
I think it would be helpful if you talked about phase problems in mixing. That seems to be something I run into a lot.
@NickKing95
@NickKing95 8 жыл бұрын
SeamlessR, Thank you for all your videos that you post. The internet needs more people like you and I you are doing a great job. Thank you so much.
@rianjams
@rianjams 10 жыл бұрын
i had it named as "weird wowowowow that happens when you play chords with sinewaves"
@Geoxor
@Geoxor 9 жыл бұрын
ahhaaha
@d3fine
@d3fine 3 жыл бұрын
@@Geoxor what a pleasant surprise
@PierStoddard
@PierStoddard 8 жыл бұрын
15:05 that happy face made me do a happy face
@MarkoRibeiro
@MarkoRibeiro 10 жыл бұрын
This can be a wonderful series. Oh, the joy :D
@BabyBop999
@BabyBop999 10 жыл бұрын
SeamlessR The trumpet is a great example of harmonics! Without pushing any keys you can play a low C, low G, C, E, G, Bb, high C, high D, high E, etc. just depending on how fast your lips vibrate. The keys just pitch all of those notes down by semitones.
@maasjoe
@maasjoe 10 жыл бұрын
Arigato Seamless-Senpai
@PseudoKitsch
@PseudoKitsch 9 жыл бұрын
This guy paints with sound.
@electricforest17
@electricforest17 8 жыл бұрын
also knows as constructive and destructive interference in physics
@alchemyst9393
@alchemyst9393 8 жыл бұрын
Omfg thank you, seamless
@JoeCoePhotography
@JoeCoePhotography 10 жыл бұрын
I'd really love to see more of this kinda thing :D
@Ellzwerfmusic
@Ellzwerfmusic 5 жыл бұрын
I like your style! To the point.
@dandubya15
@dandubya15 10 жыл бұрын
This is great! Thanks for clearing that up! :)
@cyrilcatelin7113
@cyrilcatelin7113 10 жыл бұрын
Man you're the best !! thank you keep doing what your doing !
@johandevilliers4688
@johandevilliers4688 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Seamless, what did you study at college?
@ShopSongs
@ShopSongs 10 жыл бұрын
Hey Seamless, it's actually XLR that uses Balanced audio to cancel noise with Phase Cancellation, XLR has 3 connections, Hot, cold, and earth, and the Hot and cold cancel each other out, where as on a TRS the 3 connections are Left audio , right audio , and earth. This is why DI Boxes often turn TS or TRS cables into XLR cables, because it's getting Unbalanced audio signals from instruments or microphones (standard audio signal) into a balanced XLR signal (a signal that uses phase cancellation to eliminate noise) Also this is also why XLR Is almost always mono and TRS (not TS) is stereo compatible Hope this helps :)
@mandokir
@mandokir 9 жыл бұрын
ShopSongs You're a fucking moron. Both XLR and TRS can carry balanced signals since they are both two-channel cables.
@ShopSongs
@ShopSongs 9 жыл бұрын
mandokir I didn't say XLR couldn't carry balanced signals, I was just saying that it's XLR cables can use balanced signals to cancel out noise :P
@mandokir
@mandokir 9 жыл бұрын
ShopSongs You were talking out your ass and still are.
@ShopSongs
@ShopSongs 9 жыл бұрын
mandokir what?
@iamtherealrenedescartes
@iamtherealrenedescartes 10 жыл бұрын
This was an excellent demonstration.
@TheReVmatch
@TheReVmatch 10 жыл бұрын
More Production Basics please!!!
@Jimlividum
@Jimlividum 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, as always. Just a little detail about a thing you said. I wouldn't normally comment about something like this but you asked me to in the end of the video xD. You said that a balanced cable is not a stereo cable. That depends on how you use it, what comes before and after the cable. You can use a balanced cable as a balanced mono cable, but also as a stereo one. Headphones have a TRS 1/8 inch connector right. And some mixing consoles have a single 1/4 inch jack for effect returns so you can use just one balanced cable from the outboard gear to the console, using it as a stereo cable.
@_Sickly_
@_Sickly_ 10 жыл бұрын
This was extremely helpful :D
@nathanielhamilton5841
@nathanielhamilton5841 3 жыл бұрын
Yo you're sick fam, I subbed. God bless
@bryanwartman3139
@bryanwartman3139 5 жыл бұрын
this is an awesome video. you're awesome!
@rustyvst
@rustyvst 10 жыл бұрын
Good info here, keep up the good work.
@VanKommewaaijen
@VanKommewaaijen 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for everything!
@ISHIII
@ISHIII 8 жыл бұрын
this is great information man, thanks so much for the video I learned a lot!
@StiQuezNL
@StiQuezNL 10 жыл бұрын
I needed this! :O Thanks sir!
@tomorrowishere11215
@tomorrowishere11215 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much brother!
@jessicabanville5826
@jessicabanville5826 8 жыл бұрын
that just help a hell lot more than anything
@KyleKronez
@KyleKronez 9 жыл бұрын
You are amazing, I use ableton but I still learn so much because they are (personally) one in the same, thank you.
@okayyymc3
@okayyymc3 10 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched the full video yet, but feel like this is gonna be very helpful :)
@OrganicGreens
@OrganicGreens 9 жыл бұрын
This channels great you explain things very well. I herd sadowick talking about you and thought id check it out. glad i did
@xristostheocharidis
@xristostheocharidis 9 жыл бұрын
very nice man thanks !
@HypeBeast764
@HypeBeast764 6 жыл бұрын
Very good video. I took electrical engineering classes in college where we studied wage forms and how their phases which actually impacts performance of electronics. Having waveforms cancel each other out isn’t a good thing in EE because the resultant signal is linear and not useful. One comment, you aren’t hearing the “difference” of the signal but actually the “addition” of the signals. Though if you change the phase 180 degrees and then subtracted it I suppose you would be right :)
@vitsedlacek981
@vitsedlacek981 7 жыл бұрын
hey! Very impressive channel! :) this little video also made me realise things and fill the gaps .. thanks! :)
@Elnufo
@Elnufo 10 жыл бұрын
no bullshit so far, keep trying dude :-D
@MangledMarionettes
@MangledMarionettes 10 жыл бұрын
For the love of god, please make Production Basics a reoccurring thing.
@DJFriendZone
@DJFriendZone 9 жыл бұрын
Cheers this is the most cohesive explanation of phase cancellation and interference I've ever heard BTW doesn't a filter work by phase shifting the frequencies, causing cancellation at certain frequencies?
@domvillain103
@domvillain103 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you ✌
@TheDRAGONFLITE
@TheDRAGONFLITE 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Ryoloughlin
@Ryoloughlin 10 жыл бұрын
Very informative! :)
@arvindrajgajendran2253
@arvindrajgajendran2253 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you master
@BlackRoomCat
@BlackRoomCat 10 жыл бұрын
i use phase cancellation to get acapellas inventing the phase of instrumentals
@finn264
@finn264 10 жыл бұрын
You can do that shiz in audacity
@BlackRoomCat
@BlackRoomCat 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@JustinNathanielAdams
@JustinNathanielAdams 9 жыл бұрын
This is great! :D
@evo2542
@evo2542 6 жыл бұрын
2:03 what kind of human sound is that? like a... fart-grunt... or perhaps a grunt-fart
@JustinKoenigSilica
@JustinKoenigSilica 10 жыл бұрын
thank you!!!!
@vlogswithankitnayakvlogs
@vlogswithankitnayakvlogs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@justdilka
@justdilka 6 жыл бұрын
I'm just going to continue listening to Music.
@nostos_
@nostos_ 6 жыл бұрын
lmao that makes fm make a lot more sense! I thought there was some mystical and unseeable lfo making the waveform change pitch like that xD
@smane925
@smane925 8 жыл бұрын
i thought all of this would fly over my head but the first few minutes intrigued me. now i know what the hell sine waves and saw waves are lol
@joaovitordossantos9949
@joaovitordossantos9949 8 жыл бұрын
so, that's where that noise I hear when playing sine waves on the keyboard is from that's Mind Blowing
@herrfrohlich3264
@herrfrohlich3264 10 жыл бұрын
So is distortion then also a result of phase cancellation because it is adding harmonics to the sound? Also, could you do a tutorial on the haas effect, how to use it to pan and how to avoid phasing occuring when making a sound mono after using it? A tutorial about mono compatibility would also be nice.
@ahar2563
@ahar2563 7 жыл бұрын
Why when I'm trying that and using Edison I have got not a "blue" sine but a red & yellow line ?
@yrkobeats8966
@yrkobeats8966 6 жыл бұрын
Dope
@DanteMetaphor
@DanteMetaphor 9 жыл бұрын
hey SeamlessR do you have these videos on DVD or for download?
@ItsJamisonJamison
@ItsJamisonJamison 9 жыл бұрын
what synth should i get if i want to make music like madeon i only use sylenth now
@biignois3586
@biignois3586 9 жыл бұрын
Seamless, what kind of production studio headphones do you use?
@EcstasyEtherOfficial
@EcstasyEtherOfficial 9 жыл бұрын
My mind was just blown.@_@
@domenicperito4635
@domenicperito4635 8 жыл бұрын
high speed optics uses a differential probe to remove the noise on the signal path
@sawabhacks8050
@sawabhacks8050 2 жыл бұрын
I am only 7 years behind you :p
@WstFinisher
@WstFinisher 7 жыл бұрын
yeah, now I understand that my physics lessons at school were not useless
@lil-link
@lil-link 10 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't you use the phase cancellation when bringing out vocals using the original track and the instrumental? :)
@gismo9507
@gismo9507 9 жыл бұрын
When are you doing another live streaM?
@TwoThreadsAhead
@TwoThreadsAhead 8 жыл бұрын
Okay i'm just learning about this over the past couple if days, couldn't figure out why my final spread was sounding so fucked up, but I'm curious, Are phase cancellation and phase alignment the same thing ?
@used2sleep821
@used2sleep821 8 жыл бұрын
+RellyAlexander That's hard to answer because phase is over time and cancellation is technically only reversed polarity. You may be talking about time align. phasing is a shift in the wave form over time. Time align is more a shift in the beginning of the wave to start at the same time as something. Drop a stone at opposite ends of a pond and the waves over lap each other that is cancellation. Drop 2 stones in different areas at the same end that is phase alignment ish the waves still clash not as much that is phasing. Drop 2 different sized stones in the same spot at the same time you get one even wave completely different from them individually without clashing. Time alignment. In other words there may be more than one issue going on for you to look at.
@wOOdY94100
@wOOdY94100 7 жыл бұрын
Hey SeamlessR! Have you ever considered doing one to one tutorials through remote access?
@hrithiknirmal5705
@hrithiknirmal5705 7 жыл бұрын
A detailed video about phase cancelation. Plz
@portwoodjeff
@portwoodjeff 9 жыл бұрын
great.
@itslavendare
@itslavendare 7 жыл бұрын
wow that saw wave bit was a total mind fuck
@GioCanShuffle
@GioCanShuffle 4 жыл бұрын
never knew shit about phase stuff so ty
@watashivu
@watashivu 5 жыл бұрын
Wow we can use this to create future bass chords?
@cecilevans9247
@cecilevans9247 9 жыл бұрын
Quick question: If I'm brand new to music production should I be starting here? I had very little idea about what you were saying.
@slidingonbananapeels
@slidingonbananapeels 9 жыл бұрын
***** If this went straight over your head, I think you should get more familiar with your software first. Start with videos/articles about Synthesizers, Bass and Drums, and just play with your software for a couple weeks.
@lucianoventurieri8160
@lucianoventurieri8160 8 жыл бұрын
+Macho Bravado Start with the "fl studio" basics man, would be better for you
@K375DesignTeam
@K375DesignTeam 10 жыл бұрын
min 3 real right, funny when you do music on headphones and dont hear it on the speakers. nice tutorials, if you have some music left i always need for animation background sounds, get your name named for sure, just to buisy to do all ;P
@DeepOf
@DeepOf 10 жыл бұрын
hey! could you make Baby bash - Fantasy girls Bassline? thank you so much
@umbertocantoro1786
@umbertocantoro1786 7 жыл бұрын
what happens if i pan a signal to R and the same inverted signal to L?Do i hear cancellation?
@reedcrisis
@reedcrisis 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, so now I wanted to do a Boards of Canada style randomly detuned sound with 3 sines and everyone being permanently and randomly detuned and ended in heavy phase cancellation "pumping". Sigh. Seems like there is nothing I can do because the harmonic concept does not like full randomness.
@edwardsilversmith
@edwardsilversmith 5 жыл бұрын
516 harmonics=a saw wave
@bensonflanagan9081
@bensonflanagan9081 10 жыл бұрын
SeamlessR is this how noise isolation headphones work e.g: when it plays the reverse of the noise outside so that you as a listener do not hear it?
@bensonflanagan9081
@bensonflanagan9081 10 жыл бұрын
***** haha i get mixed up with them both XD thanks
@morerice.6457
@morerice.6457 8 жыл бұрын
Idk why but I always say "Good for you" after he says his intro.
@ThatsPety
@ThatsPety 8 жыл бұрын
lol
@fatmandoingstuff3786
@fatmandoingstuff3786 7 жыл бұрын
This may be addressed with new videos but the talking is really low compared to the music. When the music comes up I have to turn dow the sound.
@NihongoWakannai
@NihongoWakannai 7 жыл бұрын
Isn't an octave the second harmonic but first overtone?
@jayjayderulo7771
@jayjayderulo7771 9 жыл бұрын
Hi seamless, thanks so much for this video - it was really helpful! Just wanna ask: how do you prevent phase cancellation in mono? Like, sometimes if you're applying a stereo effect, it sounds good in stereo, but when you put it in mono it kinda screws up.
@donach9
@donach9 7 жыл бұрын
Invert (the phase of) one of the channels
@lagerbaer
@lagerbaer 8 жыл бұрын
In physics we'd call it interference, but I guess in sound design you don't want to use that word because it'll make people think of weird stuff going on in your cables ;)
@nathanhyatt5869
@nathanhyatt5869 8 жыл бұрын
Physics uses the term Phase a lot.
@lagerbaer
@lagerbaer 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, of course, but the particular phenomenon that SeamlessR describes in this video would, by a physicist, be called interference.
@1FISH
@1FISH 10 жыл бұрын
Great video. I would like to shake your hand, sir.
@DJTyR3x
@DJTyR3x 10 жыл бұрын
UTP and STP :)
@gutlesslx
@gutlesslx 8 жыл бұрын
hi. you're seamless i'm gutless
@Tanmark1998
@Tanmark1998 10 жыл бұрын
Next part: how to get rid of unintended phase cancellation?
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