Professional Artists' Reaction to AI art

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Jono Dry

Jono Dry

Жыл бұрын

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There's been a lot of conversation in the last few months about AI art and I've been thinking about what it means for us as artists. So I decided to make a video where I weigh up the threats of this technology but also where it could be used to improve our artistic process.
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@oilonpaper
@oilonpaper Жыл бұрын
Maybe it'll take time to come full circle on this, eventually we will. We are able to make perfect furniture and decor items by mass production, but what we now really appreciate are hand-crafted items. Photography + Photoshop never fully replaced painting and drawing. Prints are never as exciting as the original piece. The story of the artist is and will be what people connect to, and knowing about the individual who made the art will become more and more important. What would you connect to with A.I.?
@user-tm1ec2on6w
@user-tm1ec2on6w Жыл бұрын
Excellent points; and good word-smithing.
@Q45L822
@Q45L822 Жыл бұрын
I was going to write exactly that but you did so much better :-D Couldn’t agree more.
@kimerapolar
@kimerapolar Жыл бұрын
I'm still concerned. As a filmmaker I'm afraid about the future too with the irruption of Synthesia and the researching by Meta Ai videos 😥
@anthonyw2931
@anthonyw2931 Жыл бұрын
@@kimerapolar I wouldn't be too worried about making the movie, just the type of movie that is becomes commercially viable. AI has a long way to go before it's able to simulate emotions and poetic perspectives and insights. But people no longer want the movie that is entertaining but also tells meaningful and profound stories.
@carlkligerman1981
@carlkligerman1981 Жыл бұрын
Give me an original hardwood danish chair from the fifties over a replica from IKEA ANY day of the week. This is a tool, and a bad one, IMO
@khushvendrasingh6600
@khushvendrasingh6600 Жыл бұрын
"it feels like something what makes us special is lost" literally defines the whole thing
@MentalPistol
@MentalPistol Жыл бұрын
more liek people realize that they arent as special as they thought. People talk about the technology as if it is a person but they never mention the people that decided to make these tools. Fallacy of the western mind.
@alltheserobotsshallfall
@alltheserobotsshallfall Жыл бұрын
what? the time spent to come out with some mediocre sh1t? regular people never had a real appreciation for art, they just consume it.
@HCforLife1
@HCforLife1 Жыл бұрын
Not really. At least in my opinion. People overreacting as always when new revolution is coming. We had few. The most important - industrial, digital and now AI. In every period people were scared. Industrial - when art started being accesible by the masses, not always defined by status - some were afraid of competition, poor artists were called names and ofthen ostracized. Digital era brought digital painting. The "cheating" at first. This somehow has been accepted after a while. The photobashing on the other hand or matte painting not by everyone for a long time. Now this all is normal and we are coming to another change. This time AI will assist artist. Yeah - assist. As I believe that artists will actually benefit more in the long run. The AI will be able generate the images, but people still will be needed to generate ideas. And as far as AI will be able to generate prompts itself - only humans will have a deep understanding and feeling of coherence or a broad picture.
@mathewklatil5455
@mathewklatil5455 Жыл бұрын
@@HCforLife1 False. There are already models that build prompts for you. There are models that can write, and that can do 3D. The models are always changing each week and eventually all creators of all media, be it videos, comics, books or even videogames will be replaced by company owned closed source AIs. We will lose our autonomy and the ability to have a voice. It will be one of the worst dystopias.
@giovannigio6217
@giovannigio6217 Жыл бұрын
I list just a bunch of things: writing, paiting, using paper, watch making, paper books etc and the list may continue. although all of these have modern replacements that are more precise, more practical, cheaper to make and to distribute , all the mentioned things are still alive for one reason: they feel different. they return a different feeling. writing on paper with a fountain pen is much more emotional than using word, looking what time it is in a high-end and handmade swiss time piece is not the same thing as looking at our phone, painting with our hands and mind is not the same thing as creating a picture in 2 minutes with a computer. although technology changes drastically our lives, the intention of creating artworks won't stop.
@HalkerVeil
@HalkerVeil Жыл бұрын
As far as careers go, companies don't care how we make art. They want it done fast, and done well. Traditional artists gain a selling feature out of it. People who buy art for the artist will seek out proof that it was made by hand. People who buy for the pretty picture, never buy from artists. They just download a picture and have it printed for cheap.
@randymulder9105
@randymulder9105 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Do you want to buy a Wolf sweater or art that won an award at a University made by hand...that was judged by other professionals? Maybe AI art machines and robots will also make physical art too. Who knows? And yes. A robot paints now.
@HalkerVeil
@HalkerVeil Жыл бұрын
@@randymulder9105 They already do. Not unlike "artists" who put a paintbrush on a string and let their cat bat it around. Or the wind. Or a random number generator. Abstract art is far more a farce than AI. They should be careful what they wish for.
@jasonphan2001
@jasonphan2001 Жыл бұрын
People still make it out of hand but you wont know whether the artist took major inspiration or fully copied the ai art that was generated. So the creativity & composition is at question. All the artist has to do know is be good at recreating it, & that's what not what an artist is.
@HalkerVeil
@HalkerVeil Жыл бұрын
@@jasonphan2001 That's been true since photography existed. And they cried about the exact same thing back then. Yet nothing changed. What is actually happening is a new age of Luddites want something to cry about.
@kalilavalezina
@kalilavalezina Жыл бұрын
I’ve dabbled with MidJourney. It was fun and interesting but ultimately quite hollow. Part of the beauty of art is the human handmade aspect. People will always love and respect the handmade because it is imbued with meaning and purpose just for existing. AI art doesn’t concern me especially. I see it as a tool. What I find interesting is the intellectual property aspect of it. Essentially it is a collaboration between you, the person typing in commands; everyone who ever shared an image online and the software company, so who owns the copyright? Very interesting times!
@rafisarhan2336
@rafisarhan2336 Жыл бұрын
I remember reading a book predicting the future of AI and the author thought when everything becomes automated the only thing the humans can do would be creative work but it looks like thats the very first thing that we are going to lose.
@-Pridebycreatons-
@-Pridebycreatons- Жыл бұрын
Yes, same... It took me by surprise. Obviously the AI art isn't perfect because it has lots of errors such as wonky arm, hands and odd strand of hair, etc. It also struggle with groups.
@rafisarhan2336
@rafisarhan2336 Жыл бұрын
@@-Pridebycreatons- look for more AI art, Im telling you some of them are so well made. Check ArtStaion AI arts.
@-Pridebycreatons-
@-Pridebycreatons- Жыл бұрын
@@rafisarhan2336 i still stand by what I said. ai struggle with groups. Also I have to log in to search arts on that website.
@honestjoe7940
@honestjoe7940 Жыл бұрын
Oh you're going to loose allot more than that!
@Wandrative
@Wandrative Жыл бұрын
But its not the 'first thing'. Its the last thing that they were able to to. AI can do everything else. The problem is that society protected everyone else, but is quick to destroy art like its nothing right when the technology loosely emulates it.
@jaxonfordham6862
@jaxonfordham6862 Жыл бұрын
I think there will ALWAYS be a place for hand drawn work. We all want to connect to one another. Personal, intimate work is valuable to us as species who relies on how we emotionally connect with one another.
@michaelpeters364
@michaelpeters364 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, many can't recognize the difference... some AI generated work is highly evocative... people meet emotional art half-way and artists often aim at leaving space for the viewer to bring their own subjectivity to it... and that's what AI does -- it's empty of true emotion, but suggests enough for the viewer to fill it in... and if not labelled "AI", could fool many.
@robdog114
@robdog114 Жыл бұрын
There will be a place for traditional mediums. Oil, charcoal, clay, etc. AI art is still digital art. And to many, digital art doesn't not have the same impact as oil on canvas or an actual sculpture.
@topenterclips
@topenterclips Жыл бұрын
@@zuki9537 to disrespect a master like Picasso is to disrespect all masters before or after him. You cannot nor can anyone ever create a Picasso ever again since his death. Only Picasso can tell you what Picasso would paint next. If you think matching aesthetic is the same matching a person you’re sorely mistaken. On the surface you may see persons as how they fall into groups but this simply isn’t realistic! Only one man ever knows how one man will react! And that is the man himself! You may use statistics but you’ll find that statistics are based on intrinsic bias! This level of bias is a hard concept to grasp at first but you will. AI art is a nice tool but a horrible master! If you truly want to learn how to create a work of art beyond thinking art is just built on it’s themes then go study the masters once more. See how they placed their values and led your eyes. Ai art mimics that! Ai didn’t create the rules it follows it. Nothing can replace the men and women who pushed us forward.
@freds6187
@freds6187 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelpeters364 Its the history of the painter and how it was made that makes it gripping, also a required human connection. Though don't let pride take away potential opportunities with AI and art especially.
@merfyn4838
@merfyn4838 Жыл бұрын
It will have a place but you wont be able to live as an artist anymore thats for sure. It will be a rare side gimmik now.
@platoschauvet
@platoschauvet Жыл бұрын
i find it pretty existentially horrifying as someone who not only gets so much of the meaning in my life from not really even creating artwork but learning to create artwork and the process of learning and dedicating my life and passion to learning how to draw and create, but also as someone who thinks the individual creation of art and learning the process of creating art is so important to humanity as a whole, and it does worry me that if the arts are even less viable as careers, we will enter a real dark age wrt art and art knowledge being collectively lost when it's less valued and goes unlearned by future generations. But, that said, it's also interesting to think about and see from the perspective of it being the creation of a collective consciousness of humanity, the creator being humanity as a whole instead of just one individual, and that's scary because no one can compete with that, but in a way it's a reflection, at least potentially, a reflection of humanity as a whole as a creator.
@shredd5705
@shredd5705 Жыл бұрын
I see nothing good coming out of this AI. It will be the death of human visual culture that flourished for thousands of years. AI is dangerous, equal or worse threat to humanity as nuclear weapons. This is just early warning sign. Wait until they put it into autonomous military robots. Terrorist states like Russia will use it for war of conquest and killing civilians
@malo-magic-blue
@malo-magic-blue Жыл бұрын
I understand you. Just keep learning and enjoying your progress in creating your artwork. People will always love real human art because of the soul in it. Don´t worry, just put your heart and soul in your art and you´re so much better than any computer generated work which in my opinion is not art at all, because the "soul" is missing. Best wishes to you Laura!💙
@itch433
@itch433 Жыл бұрын
Ikr. It's an incredibly life-saving feeling that you can always forget about all your stress and just sit down to learn something new about art and it will never be a waste of time. Not sure if it's the case now - whenever I'm considering learning anything today (not even art related), I immediately think about all the possibilities of the skill being automated in a matter of months. I've been welcoming all kinds of shortcuts until now - love digital art, 3d renders, painting over 3d geometry, even photobashing still feels like a form of drawing to me, because all of it still takes intention and lets you express your OWN thoughts correctly. Typing a prompt to get a random decent picture complete with composition and details? Definitely sounds more like commissioning a robot than producing something of my own. Thing is - even if they retrained all the models without using copyrighted artworks (which is impossible with SD being open-source, but just to entertain the idea), it would still make for a powerful tool that you'd have to use in your workflow to stay competitive, and It's depressing, because it really doesn't seem like an enjoyable tool to me.
@alexmehler6765
@alexmehler6765 Жыл бұрын
i just wrote the same thing , but your english is better lol .. humanity will not recover easily from this
@georgemartin4354
@georgemartin4354 Жыл бұрын
ugh, that's so pretentious. I say embrace it. Let humans create art and let AI create art. If you really love creating, you won't care if AI does it as well. Art is about expressing yourself, not being in competition, or seeking validation from strangers or making tons of money. People need to re learn that. AI will set things right again.
@MrEshah
@MrEshah Жыл бұрын
Through out the history of production basicly, mass production has almost always only increased the appreciation of craftsmanship and artesinal production. Where mass production is seen as an avenue of access to most and hand crafted desired by those looking for superior quality and standards. It can certainly broaden the audience for artists as an entry point to the world, and lead people, that wouldn't have been in the market otherwise, to new discoveries.
@aelion7761
@aelion7761 Жыл бұрын
It's gonna effect the art industry, in a big way, especially for freelance artists, the number of art commission's has already dropped quite a lot because of ai art(for digital). But at the same time it could also be used to generate ideas and references for artists. Hmm, I feel like it will definitely have a bad impact for most artists, but it's inevitable :/. Oh and meh, so many ai artists are popping up everywhere, I feel kinda bad for artists. :/
@bhaveshartsy7805
@bhaveshartsy7805 Жыл бұрын
for freelance works, yes when the supply is surplus and even anyone can do it... the value of the product will become less. For the professional artists, It will be a tool because they have to do a lot of iterations and have to do it in less time. can be crowded space. job roles will change, and yes less pay will be the issue.
@Wandrative
@Wandrative Жыл бұрын
If you outsource your visual creativity for AI to give you ‘reference’, then you dont even deserve to be an artist. The genius of novel design and conscious determination of shape is gone.
@georgemartin4354
@georgemartin4354 Жыл бұрын
@@Wandrative 2006: If you outsource your visual creativity for adobe Photoshop to give you ‘reference’, then you don't even deserve to be an artist. The genius of novel design and conscious determination of shape is gone. ROFL......
@Wandrative
@Wandrative Жыл бұрын
@@georgemartin4354 Oh so looks like you aren't even an artist who and was just pro AI afterall. Just masquerading as one to gaslight artists. Of course, photoshop was never art nor anything masterly. There is good photoshop and bad photoshop thats it. And AI is a even lower form of that that requires even less visual intelligence as it is automatic photoshopping. Nothing really changed from the sentiment of 2006 that you are trying to portray.
@carolinependleton8445
@carolinependleton8445 Жыл бұрын
Your art work is amazing and I am sure there will always be a need for it.I remember when the kindle became very popular,but it appears people are still buying more books than ever.I think there is nothing better than an original hand drawn or painted piece of artwork,especially for collectors.
@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263
@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263 Жыл бұрын
Normal people don’t care. We don’t know how to differentiate. I don’t know who is this professional artist.
@roger4845
@roger4845 Жыл бұрын
@@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263 nobody asked
@freshestinclass763
@freshestinclass763 Жыл бұрын
Yea.... it's like a built in apocalyptic scenario... that leaves the thought that maybe this book will never Be physically seen again... cotdamn marketers!!!
@hosamanimanjunatha6543
@hosamanimanjunatha6543 Жыл бұрын
Technology are keep changing....but the traditional things never gone change forever from a artist like you......big fan🙏🙏 keep going 🥰🥰🥰
@DrBrunoRecipes
@DrBrunoRecipes Жыл бұрын
Excellent 👌🏻 Greetings from Scotland 😊 Have a great day everyone 🌻
@BryAnthonyC
@BryAnthonyC Жыл бұрын
Hope you have a nice day too Dr. Bruno
@akaartgenerator
@akaartgenerator Жыл бұрын
Seeing how good this thing is, people will eventually starts to advertise their job as an artist with "100% human-made skill and not software/Al generated work"
@georgemartin4354
@georgemartin4354 Жыл бұрын
And they'll get hired saying that? I hate to burst your bubble friend, but everything in the corporate world is about saving time and money. Why pay some human artist that takes 3 months when AI can do it in 10 seconds. Its pointless.
@camaslindbeck1985
@camaslindbeck1985 Жыл бұрын
It’s scary, but it’s also because of its ease. Maybe if we thought of this as a humanistic collective artistic achievement, sort of a sum total of human creativity. After all, if we created AI, then it reflects us in a way and thus the images created by AI are also a reflection, although distant, of humanity and our creative visual history.
@waveart6058
@waveart6058 Жыл бұрын
I think we're focusing on the wrong aspect of the whole situation, we see how beautiful an artwork made by AI is and immediately compare it to our own artwork feeling sad and depressed. The real point is not the result of the artistic process but why we do art. For me art is not the outcome of my hours-upon-hours process of creating something new, but the process itself, it's what I feel while painting, the sensations I get out of it, the satisfaction and the excitement that nothing else can give me. I don't care if a computer can create something more beautiful than mine, it's the journey that is important, not the end of it.
@herlandercarvalho
@herlandercarvalho Жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with you, I made the exact same points yesterday on a very loooong post in Reddit. But the problem becomes, artists leave from their work, and for some it is already a struggle. AIs are facilitating in an absurd quick and vast way, the emergence of as many artists as there are humans. That will have a tremendous impact in the art world and will affect the ability of artists that took years of learning and practice to be able to be rewarded enough to use art as a means to make a living. Without the ability to make a living out of art, human artists will slowly fade away. And that's the scary part.
@LarsRichterMedia
@LarsRichterMedia Жыл бұрын
Here is how I would disagree with what you wrote: The commercial clients pay for the outcome, not the journey. The question around whether AI can produce art or not is actually a pretty irrelevant distraction from the real problems. Everyone can only decide for themselves what is art and it has no inherent implications for anybody beyond that. Being paid less or not being hired at all anymore is a real existential problem for people. Also, the question around data harvesting is important. We are still in a brutally capitalist system and seemingly on our way towards (or maybe we've already reached the shores of) a kind of techno-feudalist society where a few private entities or rogue regimes (AI haves) rule not only over pretty much all the physical resources (e.g. processing power) but also digital resources (data) while the masses of peasants (AI not haves) have to be either obedient serfs or face outright obsolesence. I don't disagree with what you wrote but I hope most people see through the "is it art or not" distraction that's spreading like a virus. What is art is not existential but there's more and more existential questions right now forcing themselves onto our plate mostly because of our own ignorance. A lot of similar problems in many countries and of course globally and AI seems to be truly born in the middle of it, as we speak, while it is unclear that in total it will be used for positive impact or not.
@waveart6058
@waveart6058 Жыл бұрын
@@LarsRichterMedia You're absolutely right, and I apologize for not thinking about artists that live with their craft. I make art just because I need to create, that's why I see the whole situation in a different light.
@Wandrative
@Wandrative Жыл бұрын
I understand that this part of it is significant, but I think art has to be more about the existence of beauty and form itself. And a talented artist is the one who has the capacity to understand and bring it into physical existence. Thus, the end outcome is what I put much more significance on. I do it to beautify the world. Sure, I get a lot of joy and pleasure from the process… but that sounds like art has been reduced to just a tool for a hedonistic life value. What difference is that compared to a druggie who enjoys being high all day? Why painstakingly perfectionise and work yourself to master art when you can have other easily accessible modes of acquiring pleasure? So I think the finished art is important. As for AI, it does not understand or have any spacial intelligence, aesthetic understanding, or a knowledge of beauty. It just imports a 2d grid of images and transcribes it as a math equation. It generates a new equation based on those and the prompts, which is transcribed back to a 2d image on screen. How does that equate to the genius of a visually intelligent mind?
@merfyn4838
@merfyn4838 Жыл бұрын
Well if you draw as pure hobby yes just dont dare ever make any profit as an artist. That job is dead. Even before this being an Artist was a questionable job now its stupid.
@savannahb435
@savannahb435 Жыл бұрын
I'm just getting started in my career. Getting into galleries and shows, selling work and gaining exposure is already super competitive. AI being thrown into the mix is worrisome. I have to remind myself of the importance of my work. I'm a realist/ hyperrealist with some elements of surrealism that are often inspired by the symbols I see in my dreams. An AI cannot replicate the connection I have with the subject of my works, nor can it replicate what details I fixate on based on my perception of a real subject.
@the-guesser
@the-guesser Жыл бұрын
AI can do many thing but it can't express your deepest thoughts even you yourself will struggle with expressing them, your feelings is what makes it your art and you are what makes it unique art made by AI is just a print btw good luck with your career
@staceykimbell9324
@staceykimbell9324 Жыл бұрын
Hyperrealists who paint over projected photographs and believe that the camera can see more than the human are the only ones who should be worried
@moonum4567
@moonum4567 Жыл бұрын
AI will eventually reach our level of competence. You need to prepare for the inevitable
@tinag7506
@tinag7506 Жыл бұрын
I think there should be some laws or regulations set in place to ban AI in certain fields so that they don't replace people. They should just be used as tools in work that requires human intervention.
@suburbanhomestead
@suburbanhomestead Жыл бұрын
@@tinag7506 while I share your sentiment, realistically I see no reason for these protectionist laws to come into fruition. Artist hold no lobby power over corporations, and the real problem will be comercial art. The “art market” will not be affected much because it is more about commodities than art. By making AI art cheap to produce, it will never have the same value in the market (NFTs is something different because those aren’t even about the art). Limited supply and branding is what makes the art market a desirable investment. That is not going to change because the “images” themselves don’t matter. Ultimately this revolution will cause people to reevaluate the “value” of a human being, since this will eventually flood into most carriers. Will we finally see humans for their intrinsic value, or will we continue to rank people on their productive and persuasive powers?
@PalliserArt
@PalliserArt Жыл бұрын
If I was to ever use AI art. It would be to create an image I have in my mind to then use as reference to actually draw or paint it by hand and then delete the AI work it created. Could be useful that way. But to use AI and print the work and flog it as original work is unholy haha
@Wandrative
@Wandrative Жыл бұрын
Im not sure why you would need that reference in the first place if it is in your head. Go pure, :)
@arrashishiv1591
@arrashishiv1591 Жыл бұрын
I believe that AI "art" may as well be one of the biggest cultural catastrophe we ever suffered as humans. I think that majority of people still see it as amusing toy/great tool and don't realise what consequences we will suffer in years/decades to come.
@shredd5705
@shredd5705 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. It will destroy human visual culture and artistry that flourished for thousands of years. Kids don't want to learn to draw anymore. They get discouraged by AI in their phone, before they turn 10. And even if they don't, by they are 18, their parents have talked them out of silly dreams. Museums will be dead, because there will be nothing new to put into museums. There will be no new Rembrandts or Da Vincis. Nobody bothers to learn, kids learn that art is something that comes out when you press a button. Pretty images will lose their value by overexposure, become something like toilet paper. Nobody wants to get into art education either, why become a high school art teacher, when kids just whip out their phones and laugh at the teacher "who can't even beat AI". No teachers, no students, no art. The people who created this AI should be jailed... but instead they get filthy rich.
@MrXandervm
@MrXandervm Жыл бұрын
But at the same time, art will become more accessible for regular joes. I'm not that great at drawing, but i'm a programmer. If i want to make a game, i need art assets. For the characters, backgrounds, etc. The only way i can get that is: 1. Make it myself, which will take hours if i want it to look shit, and years of practice if i want to make decent art. 2. Pay for an artist to do it, which will also take some time, costs money and if i don't like the art its going to take more time and money. 3. Pay for premade assets and tilesets, which costs money and is generic. But with AI art, it costs nothing and is done in no time. So this will open up ways for game developers and others to use art and make good looking games easier. I'm very excited for the future
@billcipher9344
@billcipher9344 Жыл бұрын
Jeezus the overreaction is hilarious.
@georgemartin4354
@georgemartin4354 Жыл бұрын
Why? because it wont make you rich and famous? For people that really love drawing and painting (and don't do it for fame, attention or money), its not going to matter. Let AI be AI. The truth is, its always been hard to make money doing art.
@NimroMeiMei
@NimroMeiMei Жыл бұрын
@@MrXandervm I think there will come a time when people won't come to you to make a game. And you will have a lot of competitors
@TheGirlgoyle
@TheGirlgoyle Жыл бұрын
as an artist i can see the point here.. i feel it too.. but also.. there will always be a call for traditional artists.. i mean... as much as there always has been anyway.. people dont appreciate AI as much as traditional now... because it is so easy.. but at the same time it allows everyone to be able to create something they have in their head.. with skills or no skills.. but also it can be spotted from miles away now.. most can tell the diff between them.. i really think its not a big deal really.. its just another medium.. ive been a traditional artist since i was 2.. (im 51 now) and my hands are failing me (arthritis and tremors).. AI keeps me entertained and feeling creative in a way.. and can also be challenging ... altho it doesnt take a lifetime of honing our craft.. but art.. is art.. people appreciate the effort if they are true art lovers.. i dont think we have anything to worry about
@DiluvianChronicles
@DiluvianChronicles Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I really appreciate your ability to convey the complexities of the situation without falling solely into either camp. I think the conversation around this topic needs more sensible voices like yours. I had basically just begun to learn concept art and digital painting when this began so I fell into a weird space where I love the accessibility this will bring but can understand (a bit of) the massive frustrations that artists must feel. Thank you for sharing.
@MentalPistol
@MentalPistol Жыл бұрын
why does it matter what camp he falls in. That type of naeutrality is nothing to be 'admired'. Just say you're happy that he didn't bash AI art as an artist.
@DiluvianChronicles
@DiluvianChronicles Жыл бұрын
@@MentalPistol that type of neutrality is going to be necessary for people to make decisions on this topic moving forward. I don't want artists to feel abused and I don't want people to ban AI art. Let's find the middle ground.
@tammyhernandez3179
@tammyhernandez3179 Жыл бұрын
I love the process of making art old school,not computer art.At age 56 I do my art for myself and not for money.This is very freeing,for its in my sole to create an this makes my happy.AI should be its own type of art category.Your amazing and inspiring for all us human artists.🥰
@georgemartin4354
@georgemartin4354 Жыл бұрын
Finally! A comment that makes sense. We have to embrace it. The act creativity comes from within. AI can't take that away from real artists, they MUST create, its in their DNA.
@dplj4428
@dplj4428 Жыл бұрын
3:30 new more fantastic… mixed media has just expanded. Reminds me of famous traditional movie actors who embraced doing voices for animation. Adapt, adopt, and/or redefine inside our headsets „What is my art to me?“ At least inside my own head.
@Mazeingpower
@Mazeingpower Жыл бұрын
RESPECT. I love the the mastery of Light and Shade. No matter what happens keep your skill sharp and your mind focused on what your creating and the journey will always be satisfying.
@merfyn4838
@merfyn4838 Жыл бұрын
Yeah if you draw as a hobby yes go wild but as a career youre doomed
@bree-annramats5656
@bree-annramats5656 Жыл бұрын
Huge fan and hope to one day get many of your pieces! (limited space and finances at the moment) Just curious -- do you ever sell the originals and if you do how much would one go for? I only have respect for artists -- as you said -- the ones who put in all the time and effort!
@markthompson4859
@markthompson4859 8 ай бұрын
This attitude(to see AI as a tool rather than an obstacle) is what makes you a great artist. You remain my main inspiration to strive to draw better.
@praisezulu8
@praisezulu8 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou for sharing an engaging conversation concerning 5he fast growing trajectory of the industry. ✨️
@athiokrechina6204
@athiokrechina6204 Жыл бұрын
I have never seen n Pencil Artist like u..U are Really an Inspiration for us.❤️❤️..i really wana know n learn more about your Work and U....Truly an Amazing Artist..🔥🔥❤️❤️
@clearpill
@clearpill Жыл бұрын
Great synthesis of the situation. Love your honesty, vulnerability and openness.
@davidmenke7552
@davidmenke7552 Жыл бұрын
I dunno Jono, I don't think YOU have much to worry about. Because you already have a name associated with incredible drawings. People will always want your drawings, whether they be originals or prints. You are known all over the world. Its the countless other "unknown" artists that are going to suffer most.
@errorunknown5701
@errorunknown5701 Жыл бұрын
They might as well stop making art then! If showing someone art that is 'better' than theirs is enough for them to lose motivation then their conviction was never grounded in any meaningful way. *Real* artists will continue to work hard, continue to hone their craft, and continue to get better. An A.I can only do so well as the average artist, in other words, it cannot beat *good* artists, and it will *always* beat 'bad' artists. Having used some of these programs extensively over the past week, this has only inspired me to get better faster. I've found it's become easier to find motivation to hone my skills, to learn how proper anatomy works, how precise physics affect cloth and hair. Because the A.I can't do it. The A.I is bad at it, because the vast majority of artists are bad at it. So, all I need to do is 'git gud'. If someone was going to pay me money for my work, they'd be paying for *me* to make it, not because I'm the best at what I do, but because they want *me*. If someone was looking for actual talent and skillful drawings, they'd look for the best artists around and submit a commission. In other words, I was never going to be chosen in the first place if that was what they're looking for. Anyways, tl;dr: Good Artists will never be out of a job, but bad artists always will be, they're just shifting the blame from their circumstances to the next hottest thing.
@davidmenke7552
@davidmenke7552 Жыл бұрын
@@errorunknown5701 I'm kinda not sure what you're saying even though your comment is pretty long. No one is suggesting good artists can't or won't improve/get better and so forth (or that no-so-great artists can't become amazing with lots of practice). The issue is the danger of the masses desiring AI art because its cheaper and faster to acquire. We as artists may look at AI art and see crap and inauthenticity and the loss of the artist's touch- but I think you're overestimating the number of people that value what we value (by "we" I mean real/good artists). There are loads of people who just want something that looks cool, is cheap and they could not care less where it comes from (and what looks cool to a good artist and to a random person on the street may be two very different things). People think good art is blowing air through a straw and watching the paint make neat swirly patterns on paper. Or, have you seen how many people put dentist office art in their freaking homes??? It's disgusting the lack of taste or appreciation masses of people have. I think you make other good points about your own philosophy/attitudes as an artist, but it kinda feels like you were responding to a completely different video than the one Jono posted.
@beatsdddx
@beatsdddx Жыл бұрын
Your work is super awesome well done.
@choochoochooseyou
@choochoochooseyou Жыл бұрын
I feel it could be businesses more than the individual that would turn to AI. Producing that new company image or creating a world suited just for their product. I guess I'm only speaking as a portrait artist where I would value a family portrait from an artist much more than if my ipad and Canon printer had produced it, but, you're right Jono, this could impact so many careers.
@cybuhjesse
@cybuhjesse Жыл бұрын
The neatest use I have seen is a company that creates these incredible fairy/fantasy inspired dresses has been using it to help generate a concept and then they actually create and sew the dress.
@shoethief
@shoethief Жыл бұрын
I think this is the best use and when it starts catching on, will take art to a new level for artists. It's like looking into someone elses imagination.
@arcadiaadair258
@arcadiaadair258 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate this nervous but hopeful perspective. Its how ive been feeling too!
@shredd5705
@shredd5705 Жыл бұрын
I feel the hopeful perspective in this kind of videos is forced. There's nothing good coming out of this AI. And everyone who is good at drawing and illustration knows it. Everyone who isn't good at drawing knows it too, but they don't care because their lifework and feeling of self-worth isn't threatened
@sreyanshudey7157
@sreyanshudey7157 Жыл бұрын
I personally think we use tech in art also to make digital art and animation but the classic art form will be there. That is thanks to people like u sir who work day and night to keep ta art alive. I believe art is an idea which like a movie or song makes people think a bit. Tech will come more, maybe A. I also but i think it is a waste of time to debate on the difference between A.I art and classic and we should rather mix both to create something great. That is the reason I llike u so much sir. I see that u mix tech and art together in such a fantastic way that it really gives us goosebumps. The way u and ur lovely team make the videos it really motivates us to learn something about video making also. Keep going sir with ur art and tech. Lots of love from India to u and ur team. Best of luck, we all are with u.
@tutubedo
@tutubedo Жыл бұрын
Very appreciative for your perceptive and well articulated plea. Visual artists are now facing a similar problem to what musicians experience when they are rewarded with peanuts from corporations who broadcast their creation.
@sderb2562
@sderb2562 Жыл бұрын
An interesting video buddy and definately something of importance in the future. There was a book i read once that spoke about a future in which humans didnt have to perform labour etc and that all work was undertaken by machines and humans were free to be creative...everyone was a creator or artist of some kind. Its a scary thought that technology will replace all the things we are capable of and render creativity obsolete aswell. Technology has already taken away so much of what it means to be human...i hope we can atleast maintain some creative arts and that human imagination is still held with some esteem in the future. Great vid as always!...All the best 👍
@tomhighsmith
@tomhighsmith Жыл бұрын
Do you really think you give people time to get creative? When I look around me I see them only busy with their phone and remote control.
@sderb2562
@sderb2562 Жыл бұрын
@@tomhighsmith I understand what you mean.... the point is that if NOBODY had to work, then every individual can choose whether or not they want to be creative (or i suppose spend all day on their phones 😂) because everyone would have the time and energy. Theres lots of people that would be creative if you took working life away from them...if nothing else, they'd be creative just out of boredom. All the best mate 👍
@maheshace9773
@maheshace9773 Жыл бұрын
Jono,i love your art❤
@susanbailey8479
@susanbailey8479 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for articulating what many of us artists have been struggling with.
@gabbiecooke2608
@gabbiecooke2608 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I’m new to your channel I love your art. It’s very beautiful 😍
@nnn7886
@nnn7886 Жыл бұрын
Its crazy how they’re sorta.. neglecting (whats the word i need here) art made by well, humans and relying on Tech and AI. But anyway Jono i love your art. Could you please do a video on your reference planning?
@henryhatevideodiary
@henryhatevideodiary Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this and especially on youtube. The fact that artists use their hands and their imaginations is paramount over technology. Technology has its place to help assists artists in preserving and archiving work. Yet when it comes to AI or the new argument what is art is. This help state the obvious.
@uk3dcom
@uk3dcom Жыл бұрын
Hi Henry, I wish it was that simple. There are libraries full of books debating what is art. People have argued for centuries over what is and what is not art. It seems to come down to what our old cartoon friend Popeye said, "I don't know what art is, but I know what I like." (Paraphrasing Gelett Bugess 1906)
@SkywalkerPaul
@SkywalkerPaul Жыл бұрын
Best line: " What makes you an artist is not how good you can draw but how good you communicate."
@liambeme
@liambeme Жыл бұрын
I have had these similar thoughts of late. Maybe it will be a little like digital art, personally I have found that people are less, caring, for lack of a better word when I show them a painting on a laptop as opposed to a painting or drawing I've done. Maybe because when we spend hours composing, painting, putting our energy into a piece it comes alive and its own life, do we feel that, does it resonate more? do we unconsciously sense the time and effort and passion?
@heavenseek
@heavenseek Жыл бұрын
You're right. It does resonate much more when it's a tangible, 100% human work
@WTFBUTWHY
@WTFBUTWHY 7 ай бұрын
People try to cope. But it's a gut punch to everyone in the industry.
@topenterclips
@topenterclips Жыл бұрын
The positives of AI generated artwork is the ability to not only flesh out ideas quickly but see potential different takes on your own work. Imagine the future of this being used to generate entire environments for gaming and cyberspace in VR and AR. This is a massive leap in a direction that artist will need. Nothing can take away your skills that you have trained for years, this will truly improve our work. The fun of art will always be creating it yourself however (personal touch). At the end of the day we love art and we will admire any beautiful piece.
@aelion7761
@aelion7761 Жыл бұрын
Yes on one hand you are right, but there are also a lot of negatives, with how ai art is improving so fast, all you will need to create the perfect art you need will only require sliders and prompts, yea for now artists are required, but after a while you won't need them anymore, ai art will be so easy that, you won't need to hire a lot of artists for big projects or anything, you can either learn it yourself or comission it to someone who can generate all the art you want for dirt cheap.
@topenterclips
@topenterclips Жыл бұрын
@@aelion7761 even if it becomes this easy to produce it will be a step in the right direction! The power of art will always lye with the artist. Let’s be honest here no AI art will ever be able to truly create a masterpiece even with the world of prompts. There is a reason why art is so close to us. It is felt not just seen. Also I wouldn’t mind seeing projects produced faster, and seeing artist work on what they love vs what they have been forced to work on! Let’s enjoy the change while appreciating the traditional.
@aelion7761
@aelion7761 Жыл бұрын
@@topenterclips Well ai art has already won a big competition, the judges deemed it a 'masterpiece', so you are wrong on that, but I do agree on the fact that ai will be a great tool for artists most artists will prosper with it.
@topenterclips
@topenterclips Жыл бұрын
@@aelion7761 I saw that already, I won’t say I was wrong. Albeit you may consider it a wrong if you’d like. I didn’t mean that it wouldn’t create quality art, it has a human element in it and it always will (in every industry it will have art directors to build on the canvas) it can also perform better than some-most artist at this point but it won’t exactly produce what we will especially mistake wise! What that man did only proved two things 1) that he can defraud judges 2) that he doesn’t want to create something from his own soul. I think there are masterpieces among the Ai Art but judging it by traditional means is pointless! (Plus we aren’t even interested in judging something computerized outside of performance based judgment) I think there are masterpieces at the Digital level and masterpieces at the traditional level as well. But I don’t think we will ever compare an engine to an actual Van Gogh or Picasso (simply because they are autonomous and think for themselves and feel human emotions) then they lay that on canvas! And the entire world is forever impacted by what masters create! AI can probably achieve a semblance of this, but generally humans tend to celebrate humans who they think have immense ‘Talent’ and skill and worked hard for what they loved! (Example: Any musician ever) I don’t think a masterpiece of ai art will ever need to hang in a gallery, it can just be in an online gallery! But I wouldn’t want to be against it because There is much art that never enters galleries! I specifically like the concept designs for many stages and cars! Once you’re a fan of art then the entire process fascinates you regardless of what kind of art it is… because someone somewhere had a unique way of viewing the world and created something out of it! Like a Lamborghini or a Porsche! Like a Ferrari or a Tom Ford! Like the buildings around us or the signs we see everyday! AI art may mimic our skills but never our swagger! It may know we enjoy blue skies and moods but it will never direct a scene with John wick or Tom cruise and make precisely cool choices like a specific aviator sun glasses throughout an entire film! It can only make cool choices after the fact! We can make choices cool! There is a reason why people run around in cosplay! There is a reason why everyone wants to be a model in vogue! But when we talk purely the spirit of the painter you’ll find that the story compels you sometimes more than the art ever will! Human stories drive everything! Like the story of the team I’m sure that built this AI! But as for perfect art (which doesn’t exist btw) it’s always in the communication skills of the artist! When AI starts communicating with us through its art! Then maybe we can take it as seriously!
@dibel3669
@dibel3669 Жыл бұрын
never thought i would live in the timeline of "Detroit Become Human"
@chips.3927
@chips.3927 11 ай бұрын
Me personally, I'd prefer hand-crafted and human-made objects/products for the current state of technology. You guys are definitely appreciated, and once the time of AI comes, just remember their understanding of arts also originate from the complexity of human's arts
@user-tm1ec2on6w
@user-tm1ec2on6w Жыл бұрын
Mr. Dry: you will never be replaced because you CANNOT be replaced. You make Art, which is a fusion of mind, hand motion, and most importantly Soul. An AI doesn’t have a soul. It’s an imitation of a programmer’s mind and as such is as spiritually vacuous as the electrons flowing through its processor. This is why Art MOVES people, and great Art astounds the observer. I’ll never forget when I went to St. Peter’s basilica in Rome and saw Michelangelo’s “Pieta”. I’d seen photographic reproductions many times before, but actually being there and “taking it in”, touching it with my soul through my eyes, I cried my eyes out. I can’t explain why, but it moved me to my core. You have that talent, and as long as you pursue Beauty, you will leave your mark on the history of Art - and humanity.
@kimerapolar
@kimerapolar Жыл бұрын
Everything you say is beautiful from a spiritual and personal point of view, but the collective truth is that people only care about consuming and the industry frivolizes everything we do and the sad thing is that uncertainty and surplus not knowing what is going to happen. happen with our careers at any level.
@grahammatthew4044
@grahammatthew4044 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating insight.
@RiverReeves23
@RiverReeves23 Жыл бұрын
Very well put. It is both exciting and terrifying at the same time. It is however just a technology. Perhaps the paint brush was as disruptive upon it's creation and all artists that were using mediums that came before were forced to learn how to paint but that is life. Money will flow from painting in to coding but also it will change the art world for the better as it may enabe young artists to dream big and not be constrained by a limited visual space, inside their mind's eye.
@franklinodaro
@franklinodaro Жыл бұрын
Beautiful piece ❤
@johnjones928
@johnjones928 Жыл бұрын
I don't think traditional art will be effected that much because people will always appreciate the work, skill and talent that's involved. That includes art done using tablets and such as well. AI will have the biggest impact in commercial and graphic design studios and art departments, things like greeting cards, product packaging, magazine and novel illustrations, mural graphics and all other forms that used to require actual PEOPLE and time will be replaced by the immediate results AI makes possible. One person can literally do the work of dozens in fractions of time.
@moskito80
@moskito80 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but that is practicly all the jobs, who already were insanely hard to find and get as an artist. Great that the best 10% of artist will survive, but what about the rest.
@johnjones928
@johnjones928 Жыл бұрын
@@moskito80 That's the danger of AI that most of the video content about the subject misses.
@minixlemonade2335
@minixlemonade2335 Жыл бұрын
@@moskito80 The best 10% is all that survives anyway. That has always been the case. And OP over estimates AI art's impact in industry. If the general populace found out their favorite art was made by AI, I doubt they would buy it. People despise AI art.
@moskito80
@moskito80 Жыл бұрын
@@minixlemonade2335 people are not interested in art, we all know the famous painters from centuries ago, maybe we know some from the present, like a Banksy or something but none of us are interested in that, we dont have paintings of them on the wall, we dont buy there stuff. Most of us are interested in illustrations from games, movies, comics, that kind of stuff. And a lot of us dont even know who the illustrator is of our favorite movie poster, or that multiple artists worked on that amazing cover illustration of your fav game. We just dont care, we know some names like kim jung gi (may hé rest in peace) or a manga illustrators (who also work in teams) because they are hype for the moment. Most of the time its only us artists that tend to know more of the other artists, and yeah i will buy a piece of art from my fav artist because of the artist, but the rest of the consumers dont think like that, and why should they. I do think, in time ai will grab most of the work, and only leave some for the best of the best. And if that is fare, i dont know, i guess things will always change
@jasonargonaught8744
@jasonargonaught8744 Жыл бұрын
using such technology is not an easy thing. If you use a couple of words then your piece with come out looking like everybody else's who uses that particular tech. This current tech takes time. A lot of time to get an image that you are shooting for because you have to communicate in a precise way and order with precise punctuation to 'chisel' out the image that you want. Taking into consideration, lights, color, mood, environment and their placement. It is hard, incredibly difficult(for me) because it is like learning a new language and fluency is a hit or miss. It is, I think, just another tool to add to the artistic arsenal. People used to largely finger paint until the brush came along then that opened up a whole new way of generating what was in the artists mind. It became tool. Then digital came along and that became a tool that artists use to create different kinds of images. Now, this. Art is always evolving. Your art is incredible and I wish I could make my hands do that. But I learned by our art that finding my own way and focusing on that is what is working best for me right now because that is where I am at in my learning process. And that's okay.
@blinkspacestudio8892
@blinkspacestudio8892 Жыл бұрын
I love drawing and physically making images on paper with my hands, using my imagination and my eyes, my skills etc. the only way to use AI art is if you have power to run a pc or whatever. Natural skills don't need that so I never worry about it really. I draw because I love the physical connection between my thoughts and the image I come up with. I feel sorry for anyone who claims to be an artist by making a bot create an image for them. That is extremely sad and kid of pathetic. BTW I lOVE your work its beyond words the amount of hours and love you put into each piece. THAT is the difference my friend, you are REAL. I understand your concern though....some people dont mind cheap art and miss the entire point of why its so special in the 1st place.
@silviartchannel3377
@silviartchannel3377 Жыл бұрын
Amazing art work 👍
@Lewshizz
@Lewshizz Жыл бұрын
I think one of the biggest things was that prior to this art discussion skill had nothing to do with what made something art. We did not tell people that what they made is not art when they did not have the skills you possessed. This is a scary tool to most because skill is being challenged, but skill before was never the staple of what made art. You highlighted it perfectly with the painters upset over the camera allegory where they both were ultimately seen as valid forms of artwork. AI can at the very least open the door to an accessible way for people who previously had massive passions for art but werent able to dedicate their life into learning a way to now visually represent their thoughts. I'm a portrait artist, I spent years teaching myself how to capture a face and I'm still no where near a level I would like to be. However, just because I put time into learning this does not mean that I will deny others the opportunity to express themselves with this new art tool. When Oil paints were introduced it was considered cheating because of how long it stays wet, when cameras were introduced it was considered cheating because of how quickly an image was captured, when photoshop was introduced it was considered cheating for the image manipulation tools that it provides, and now AI is introduced and it's under the same threat of elitism we all are subconsciously holding against it.
@econundrum1977
@econundrum1977 Жыл бұрын
I think this is a very honest and thoughtful evaluation of what disturbs some artists so much about generative AI tools.
@padamvara
@padamvara Жыл бұрын
Informtive video jono.. your works beautiful than AI . ❤️from India
@Raybets
@Raybets Жыл бұрын
It boggles my mind how some people fail to empathise and realise the detrimental impact this has on artists, hobbyists and professionals alike. It's robbing away income, part of their identity, and what makes them unique. Now anyone and everyone can "create" beautiful artwork in mere seconds by just typing several words into a screen. What was once impossible for most people is no more that it massively decreased the value of authentic human art. Think about supply and demand. Anything commonplace loses value. Of course it's a huge blow to artists who trained years (some even decades) to master / sharpen skills that they take pride in and set them apart from others... Only to now be replaced by AI that's widely accessible for all. With every new automated technology, manual labours are losing significance. Sadly in this case, the damage greatly outweighs the good for the ones caught in the transition. Absolutely Brutal.
@kunaikat2232
@kunaikat2232 Жыл бұрын
cry more in your pencil cave ive generated 200 digital paintings of cyborg mecha fairies today
@mariopadilla1445
@mariopadilla1445 Жыл бұрын
Coming from the perspective of a Media producer (Video production) The industry said the same thing when 4k cameras became more budget friendly. Suddenly being a content creator became more accessible via standardized 4k cameras, lighting ect. Even this video we are watching now, could have cost almost nothing to produce (could have been shot on iPhone or $500 camera) vs $30,000 camera that is essentially inaccessible to most of the Populus. Ai art programs are a tool, its still up to the user to put their ideas into concept. Art at the end of the day is transformative and always evolving. This form of art, digital art specifically is experiencing the same disruptive evolution the entertainment industry experienced 10 years ago. KZfaqrs didnt exist 15 years ago, now its one of the main forms of entertainment.
@asterlofts1565
@asterlofts1565 Жыл бұрын
Please, do the part 2... :)
@faafafineartist
@faafafineartist Жыл бұрын
As scary as this is, the consumer is also going to transform and YOU (the artist) will be the commodity. Some will buy any Art for $2 a pop, but YOU (your art) will become even higher in value because you are the prominence, your story.
@-Pridebycreatons-
@-Pridebycreatons- Жыл бұрын
@@brokenmember1658 the AI art can't create everything. Also, it does groups of people really badly.
@darrellpidgeon6440
@darrellpidgeon6440 Жыл бұрын
Feeling lost and redundant with the emergence of this technology is a natural thing. Embracing it and learning to use it is also natural. These new steps of evolution can be valuable and insightful; these things, too. have their own rewards
@antoniocruz3563
@antoniocruz3563 Жыл бұрын
Portrait painters also complained about photography in the 1860s. There is still a market for oil portraits. Microsoft paint in the 1990s did not abolish the market for crayons. What AI tools + open source software does is give every person even newer and easier skills to tell stories as they see fit.
@t.jandhightops3070
@t.jandhightops3070 Жыл бұрын
As someone who’s currently studying at Art College there’s nothing I love more than being told I’m “obsolete” and I’m “going to be replaced”. People keep saying that AI is the future and this is inevitable. If we reach a future where everything that was once human about us is just machines and codes then truly we will have lost our reason for being.
@mjeffn2
@mjeffn2 Жыл бұрын
If Picasso and Braque listened to the artists of their day and thought of photography and moving pictures as a threat, they may have not invented Cubism which was their idea of how to compress images over time into a single two dimensional canvas. There is an unreasonable amount of irrational hyperbole coming from “freaked out” artists scared of change and lacking enough belief in their own ability to adapt and change how they do things that opportunities for entirely new possibilities are probably being overlooked by most, and recognized by a few. What could be more human than that?
@dibbidydoo4318
@dibbidydoo4318 Жыл бұрын
@@mjeffn2 "their idea of how to compress images over time into a single two dimensional canvas." something mathematicians and physicists were doing for a much longer with time graphs.
@guillermosanchez1224
@guillermosanchez1224 5 ай бұрын
Traditional Art can never be replaced by Ai unless a robot is invented and learns to draw as good professional artist.
@uk3dcom
@uk3dcom Жыл бұрын
I have been having sleepless nights thinking about the AI generated images. It seems to revolve around the following three questions for me. 1) IS AI image creation art? 2) Is there a moral/legal issue around how the AI neural networks sample copyright protected work? 3) Are there checks and measures that need to be put in place to safeguard humans from unforeseen consequences? It's good to see a measured response like yours and this is much more in line with my own thinking. It is way too early to tell what the impact may be. My hope is that AI and soon GAI will be seen as yet another tool for artists. Some will choose to use them and others will not. Ever was it thus. On a side note how wonderful it is now that much of the world accepts digital art as art. It's only taken 40+ years.
@misswomble
@misswomble Жыл бұрын
In the future, the conceptual ideas and emotive expression of the idea behind the art will drive the art market, and artists will have to get their values in check and find their voice, what is the message of the art. Programing the ai correctly to achieve a clear vision or even speak to the concept of a ai randomly generated aesthetic to fit an artists intent. I see it as a tool, like google images, it's the refinement of the aesthetic, the politics of those aesthetic, the concept, and so on that the conversation around the art will generate and with that the artists ability to own the message in the art. When the art is used to bring some kind of message or a set of values in an emotive and inspiring way, then maybe art will have more power to shape our futures through the art that reaches and inspires people, ai art on its own will be viewed as too overdone, but as a starting place its where we bring it as artists that will count going forward. It's already here, so we need to consider where we personally stand with it in regards to our own practice.
@davidedwards4088
@davidedwards4088 Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@carolbozich9194
@carolbozich9194 Жыл бұрын
stella Carol I am a artist in learning, this is scary for humanity the creativity that comes from deep within oneself , the love the passion of creation holding a brush , connecting with light and darkness the artists of old be it painting, music, poetry etcetera bought out something deep within their soul and spirit to create, I think all artists around the world should set up a website or whatever to authenticate their art as their own and not Ai, More control and agendas to control humanity. love to all you artists out there
@anthonyharris483
@anthonyharris483 Жыл бұрын
AI can never replace real human made art.
@WTFBUTWHY
@WTFBUTWHY 7 ай бұрын
How? that's what it does. It replicates real human art lol.
@MrAlroyNdhlovu
@MrAlroyNdhlovu Жыл бұрын
I’m so PRO AI but what I will say is that work like yours will never be replaced. I’ve tried to recreate existing images by trying to describe them as much as possible based on what I see but I’m realising that some images are hard to explain in words and I think that’s where artists like you will always have an edge. Like the two examples you showed in the frames, how would I describe that? Even if I did, AI would struggle to truly envision what I mean. So AI is creating some amazing things, I’ve created some myself but I think the artist and design will always have that edge, that instinct and randomness that AI can never have I think. Your work is amazing by the way.
@TheGirlgoyle
@TheGirlgoyle Жыл бұрын
right.. AI has no soul.. and most times u can feel that... with traditional art... u can feel and see the soul and love for the craft put into it... it will always be appreciated i think
@sociallyresponsiblexenomor7608
@sociallyresponsiblexenomor7608 Жыл бұрын
Thing is, you can usually guide it with tools and addons, and with image to image and so on. I made a quick background in blender for example and got almost exactly what I wanted as a detailed sketch in like 10 minutes using AI.
@Thedailydrawchannel
@Thedailydrawchannel Жыл бұрын
It would be nice to hear more about the way you use drawing for cathartic reasons
@SD-mw1hz
@SD-mw1hz Жыл бұрын
When the power goes out and the batteries die we will still have humans imagination and abilities with a pencil and paper, these items have been around for 1000's of years. Your vision will always be needed and stand the test of time. We all appreciate hand crafted, artists visions of the world. I can buy a printed card but a heart felt handmade card is a treasure.
@bytheway1031
@bytheway1031 Жыл бұрын
❤ Your art!!
@hereliestales
@hereliestales Жыл бұрын
Great video. I've been seeing this discussion more and more with people advocating for AI art and it's scary. I think it's right to use the word "cheated" because that's what a lot of these programs or systems do. They cheat in place of real human participation. With the computer beating a chess grandmaster, hacks for a game or AI for art. You remove the humanity, the countless hours of sculpting, drawing. It's an actual problem.
@gl00mberg
@gl00mberg Жыл бұрын
The thing with AI art is that it can only learn from actual human artist/paintings which means artist will always be in need. This is only disruptive if you choose to let it. Art is not limited to human, as we see this with nature, and the universe. Art is subjective and always will be.
@ConstantGardener-q9q
@ConstantGardener-q9q Жыл бұрын
The images all look very similar and photo based, which is very different than traditional art where engagement with the “medium” (clay, paint, paper etc) guides you to new insights
@oldgold5848
@oldgold5848 Жыл бұрын
Chin up Jono. It is for an artist as much about the journey and process as the product.
@Elintasokas
@Elintasokas Жыл бұрын
Great video. I like how you acknowledge that your ego is feeling threatened here but don't go berserk and on a crusade against AI art like a lot of artists are doing.
@HR-lj9cy
@HR-lj9cy Жыл бұрын
when people hear that you drew it by hand. look at there faces. thats when you know youre the artist. Jono you are a thru artist
@MentalPistol
@MentalPistol Жыл бұрын
no, they'll say "dude what was the prompt?"
@seafoam6119
@seafoam6119 Жыл бұрын
@@MentalPistol they’ll say, “‘drew it by hand’? Never thought of using that as a prompt!”
@beetogarcia9983
@beetogarcia9983 Жыл бұрын
Remember when artists told people to cry about it because manual jobs would be automated first? Good times
@TheChocolatBlanc
@TheChocolatBlanc Жыл бұрын
3:59 What a masterpiece haha.
@stefangobert8448
@stefangobert8448 Жыл бұрын
I don't think the analogy to photography holds up though. With a camera, there's still a photographer making all the decisions. The composition is determined by a human, at the end of the day. With the AIs, machines are taking over that decision making process. AI is still 'just a tool', but it isn't intended to be that for ever. It's intended as a replacement. Do you think big studios are really going to continue paying for entire teams of concept artists, when the same work can be done by a single computer running some AI. In short: I don't share the optimism of those saying AI is a new medium or tool that will enrich the art-making proces.
@santiagonasar6511
@santiagonasar6511 Жыл бұрын
Classic masterpiece never die
@FireAngelOfLondon
@FireAngelOfLondon 10 ай бұрын
AI image making is nothing for artists to fear. There was a great fear among painters when photography was invented but people still buy paintings. Eventually some photographers became acknowledged as artists in their own right, as they used a camera more skilfully than most people could. So photography became a new art form alongside drawings and paintings, but it never replaced them and it did not lower their value. AI images are going to go the same way, some people already use the technology more skilfully than others and by the way they assemble their text prompts consistently get better images than most people and also have a distinctive style in their results. Some artists now use photography to support their work but still produce it using pencils or paint; Jono uses photos himself, so the one-time supposed enemy of "real artists" has become another traditional artist's tool as well as another art form. The same will happen with AI, some artists will experiment with it to help develop compositions and visual ideas more quickly, but the final image will be made entirely by hand and will still have the emotional intentions and style of the artist, not the style of the AI that assisted in its development. Yes, some people will be content just typing those text prompts, but the value of a pencil drawing is not going to diminish because there is a new way to make images. Eventually AI art will be another art form just as photography is, and some artists who draw and paint will use one or both to help them, while some won't. There are things we should worry about with some other potential uses for AI, but please don't anybody waste energy worrying about the image generating potential of it.
@drewd9985
@drewd9985 Жыл бұрын
Jono. I respect your work greatly - there is obvious skill, obvious thought and obvious statement that, tellingly, evokes further thought in the viewer - and I don't think you have cause to be disheartened by AI's corner offerings. They are interesting to the eye, but they are, at the heart of it, substandard in thought and message. Have you noticed that, although the AI algorithms can make something interesting and compelling with good composition, they aren't making anything new? Without your art in the world, AI would never be able to imagine to make what you make. To my mind, each individual viewing the glut of AI art, they see thousands of artworks that they wouldn't have produced - as if the AI has limitless imaginative potential and that can be disheartening - but after you've looked at enough of them, you start seeing a pattern and the images have nothing intrinsically new to them. Many of them, although attractive, have such regular thematic constructs and stylisations that they border on the kitsch - they draw their constructs from the mass of art, not on unique art. Maybe all AI will do is weed out artists making formulaic work and push creative, imaginative, fine artists forward. The ones making actual statements in ways that push thinking and artistic appreciation in the viewer. Don't despair - I don't think AI would have come up with your themes, style and refinement - especially not the three together - and the only way that an AI could even imitate you is for someone to specify that it specifically imitates your style. Even then, to the keen observer, I wouldn't be surprised if that art came across as somewhat of a pastiche of what you produce. AI isn't producing intrinsically new art. I recently made a series of triptychs and I look at them and am certain that current AI's would have never had the chain of thought in the creation and be able to create anything near similar or even 50% of what I've created nor the statement and cognitive links between the pieces that I deliberately made. If you look at any artist's work and think that an AI wouldn't have 'thought' to make it, even with all the prompts from an individual, then it will hold strong as art.
@uk3dcom
@uk3dcom Жыл бұрын
Hi Drew, I agree with your sentiments here but AI image creation is really in it's infancy. The General Artifical Inteligence (GAI) that is coming will I think inevitably blur the lines even further. Microsoft have already demonstrated that 3D printing of paintings that use AI are pretty indistinguishable from human artists by a human audience. My hope is that the individual artist will be protected in some way from the AI clone systems.
@liquidbinaryttv
@liquidbinaryttv Жыл бұрын
Your link to the squarespace site is broken.
@Resonanz8
@Resonanz8 Жыл бұрын
Just for clarification the A.I is not copy pasting anything at all, true machine learning understands the idea or the concept of a particular subject and reapplying it.
@ElioRose
@ElioRose Жыл бұрын
Interesting that Squarespace is the sponsor for this subject of video. I went to school for web development and that was around the time all these automated, boilerplate, drag-n-drop web design tools started popping up. I basically lost relevance as I was in school, I built a few sites for companies and person sites for people but now everyone uses things like Squarespace, Shopify, etc and I haven't built a site for anyone in nearly ten years. I think there are some things that are fine being replaced by better methods. Like web development for one. I thought it was a huge waste of time to keep recreating the same thing over and over while I was in college. During that time the 'hack' everyone was using, and even being taught, was to save specific chunks of code that do something, write notes on how to implement it mechanically, then copy/paste it to sites you build while tweaking the actions it does on the UI. Then we saw Wordpress, GoDaddy, Squarespace, etc and that was essentially just code that was repetitive across all sites being made with these services with small tweaks to the actions they would do based on what the user liked from a list of templates. Sure there's still some use for people who are good at web development in large scale corporations and mostly on the backend, but not for the average person with a start-up business, a portfolio site for an artist, promo site for a musician or something small, which is where most new/learning developers sharpen their skills. I think it's perfectly fine to get rid of these meaningless repetitive jobs like front end developer, which is what I did. So your job as a front end developer is to take what the web designer made with the customer, build the site according to the design template by copy/pasting tons of functions into a premade skeleton site (boilerplate) using the exact same techniques as 90% of all websites, then hand it off to the backend developer to integrate server side and add security features which is arguably the most important job of the three. Also other jobs like grocery stores using all self check outs, fast food replacing cashiers for order kiosks (this has been a thing in Japan for many years already) or other things that require no real human effort...obviously art is not a meaningless task and requires a great deal of human effort. This is why I think AI art is a fad for now similar to NFT's, though probably with longer legs. Sure some people will make money from it early on and that's okay, but I think most people would prefer to have a genuine piece made for them and possibly have the satisfaction of seeing it being made, ie; time lapse videos or accompanying sketches and color sheets as a piece of the work being made, kind of like when people buy animation cells. In the future I think it's really going to be more of a design flow tool for artists. The fact that you can ask an AI to generate tons of concepts that you can use for reference or getting ideas out of your mind quicker than sketching thumbnails is good for inspiration and keeps you in the creative stage sooner and longer, so much that you might have a backlog of ideas. Which is not necessarily a bad thing. Another useful thing is to have it as a tool on the go, similar to a notepad. Maybe you have a thought while riding a bus or you're at work or in class. You open your phone, type in the idea (prompt), generate a handful of images and return to it when you have time so you don't have one sketch from a bumpy ride or scribble down ideas without a sketch cause you're short on time and later you don't even recognize what the idea was in that moment. This happens a lot in the shower too, but even though our phones aren't waterproof yet you can still use AI in speech to text to make a prompt for you, similar to asking google to skip the song while you shower. The thing about artists is that we're generally very out of the box thinkers, so finding a way to integrate AI into workflow is where it becomes useful and possibly even having it inspire you with concepts added onto your own thoughts and ideas that maybe you didn't realize, like; colors, backgrounds, poses, etc. This boom in AI actually got me back into art, because I never really thought about it as replacing artists but as a tool for artists to used like art software, cameras, drawing tablets, etc. This was all considered cheating when it first came out as well. Artists, musicians, scholars, storytellers, etc will always have a place because it's what makes us human and gives us a sense of true unique difference from the rest of life on Earth. Thanks for reading, and don't forget to leave a like & comment below...
@zofiakostyrko2285
@zofiakostyrko2285 Жыл бұрын
AI is taking away from artists their creative and existential "midjourney" of making art: the distance to be covered, earned and enjoyed between initial thought of an idea and final artwork. It is increasingly starting to flood the creative market with AI created images, making it even harder for individual artists to be visible enough to financially survive . And lastly - AI MidJourney and other similar programs already are or are likely to soon move behind a paywall to create images - it creates a deeper division between those who can afford software subscriptions, and the majority of artist that don't, while Creative & art directors, editors, and others who hire the artists can pay whatever it costs. With AI the clients and guys in charge don't have to deal with artist anymore to get what they need to sell their brand or product.
@LeoRileyShines
@LeoRileyShines Жыл бұрын
You can't fake pride. You get to be proud of your work in a very honest real way. Those using AI art, cannot can feel the same pride or ownership. There's something special about pieces created with hard work.
@jamestaillon4781
@jamestaillon4781 Жыл бұрын
Can I just say it: "This is terrifying!" Being human is quickly becoming more and more ambiguous and obsolete.
@shredd5705
@shredd5705 Жыл бұрын
Next the AI will live in your house, drive your car, and have sex for you so you won't have to. You live in a 2x2 meter box, outside the city
@BRAVEN32m12
@BRAVEN32m12 Жыл бұрын
My frend we are real and ai can't overcome true artists
@kentang5103
@kentang5103 Жыл бұрын
Let's imagine AI as a Human. In 2022, several supers CG painters born, their names are DALL-E2, Stable Diffusion. They can imitate any painting style in the world and paint thousands of believable CGs in seconds. Everyone can ask them to draw CG paintings. They sometimes produce very well-finished works. They are good at combining concepts, thousand times faster than human. We know that there are always artists better than ourself. Artists should never stop explore beauty. The problem is that people buy a CG from Artist DALL-E2 and claim that they draw it by their own. How stubit those people are? DALL-E2, Stable Diffusion, may give you good suggestions or ideas. Eventhough AI owners say they don't hold the copy right, will you steal others artists works to claim it is your work? And we should stop AI's owner to train AI by not asking the creators copyright. If you worry about your job , ask your boss.
@keithmailhotte8449
@keithmailhotte8449 Жыл бұрын
I think it will make people appreciate what you do more
@merfyn4838
@merfyn4838 Жыл бұрын
But not buy it. Why spend hundreds of dollars if they can take any of his works? Put it in a AI and replicate his artstyle on whatever they want for free?
@bluetrilobite
@bluetrilobite Жыл бұрын
Imagine being dumb enough to take on life crippling debt to study art knowing full well that your chances at any job other than starbucks barista is near null, and then this comes out.
@DAFORCEFilms
@DAFORCEFilms Жыл бұрын
I see ai art as the next step of the argument “what is art?”. I’ve been seeing people online who a few years ago were slapping down opinions that criticize Duchamp, Warhol, Pollock and that guy who taped a banana to a wall as not “true” artists because their work was easily copied. The argument that their work took no true skill and was often just commercialized garbage was shunted by the artists who claimed it was entirely about the performance and abstract meaning behind the pieces that made them art. “Skill” wasn’t a factor in defining art. Now these same people are walking back and making these same arguments towards ai art, that it has no skill, _no soul_ … just random garbage thrown together by someone with no training. I think this represents a new step towards post-post-modernism, probably circling back to appreciating the skill it takes to truly make art. Or maybe Duchamp had it right all along in that art is truly subjective, not bound by the rules and definitions set by others.
@geraldofabianoartes3074
@geraldofabianoartes3074 Жыл бұрын
Perfeito. Grande abraço Brasil
@SkepticalCaveman
@SkepticalCaveman Жыл бұрын
Chess is actually more popular today than it has ever been, even though computer have been better for 25 years. The chess players adapted and are using the computers as a tool to improve their skills, just like artists have to do.
@shredd5705
@shredd5705 Жыл бұрын
Chess is a sport. They didn't stop running 100 meters, just because invention of motorbike. Or powerlifting, just because there is industrial cranes. Commercial art (like illustration) however is not a sport, people pay for the image itself, and you won't beat the AI not matter what you do. It works 1000x faster than you, even if you reach similar results.
@SkepticalCaveman
@SkepticalCaveman Жыл бұрын
@@shredd5705 And people won't stop drawing just because a computer can do it better. Art is a passion, not just a job, just like chess. Even today people still ride horses, not because they need to, but because they *want* to.
@Shiranova
@Shiranova Жыл бұрын
@@SkepticalCaveman Passion alone doesn't earn you money.
@SkepticalCaveman
@SkepticalCaveman Жыл бұрын
@@Shiranova I never claimed that it did.
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