PROFITABILITY ! Flatbeds Vs Dry Vans: Is it even worth Hauling Flatbed Loads?

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Күн бұрын

Flatbeds Vs Dry Vans: Which Is More Profitable?
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Ever wondered what the difference in profit is between driving a Flatbed vs driving a Dry Van?? In this video, Ronen takes us through the comparisons between these divisions, and helps form your decision on which would be best for you and your lifestyle!
Which do you drive? Flatbeds or Dry Vans?? Let us know below!
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
00:57 Long haul truck driver pay statement
01:27 Long haul dry van paycheck
01:45 Long haul flatbed paycheck
02:13 Local truck driver paychecks
02:23 Local driver dry van paycheck
03:13 Local driver flatbed paycheck
03:58 Spot rates & national averages
04:09 Lease operator paychecks, dry van
05:25 Lease operator flatbed paycheck
06:21 Owner operator dry van paycheck
07:00 Owner operator flatbed paycheck
07:22 Owner operator comparison
07:50 Why do truckers refuse to work in the flatbed division?
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@starscream888
@starscream888 Жыл бұрын
When I did long haul for a living I was a flatbeder and loved everything about it I was a 350lb man dropped to 250 in no time it’s a great workout I was in the best shape of my life plus the money was way better then dry van
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
Hey! Had to pin your comment. Thank you for sharing with us. Do you have any tips/advice for new/old drivers in staying physically active in shape during long hauls?
@starscream888
@starscream888 Жыл бұрын
The number one tip I can give to drivers in flatbed wanting to get in shape is do not eat right before you go to bed for the night. Take a half hr or so after you load and eat your supper. (Loose the mentality of I need to be moving to make good time so I’ll eat when I stop for the night) Eating right before you hit the bed is the absolute worst thing you can do
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
@@starscream888 Thanks for the tip!
@claudem.p.7969
@claudem.p.7969 Жыл бұрын
I started doing flatbed in june 2023. NO TARP but heavy loads. I am 67 years old. I am not rushing when I put the straps or chain. I refused to do tarp so one less pain in the back. I prefer b-train more than the 53 feet bed with 4 axels. My main concern is not the flatbed or dryvan but rather the car drivers who thinks that we can stop on a dime or make a turn like magic. HOURRA.
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
Hey! Yes we agree with you with the car drivers. Here in the GTA we have the most expensive insurance because of bad drivers. Please take care of yourself on the road and thanks for watching and commenting.
@veracityseven
@veracityseven Жыл бұрын
There is a really easy way to alleviate and even stop lower back pain for truck drivers...Every morning, after your alarm goes off, before you even get out of bed...DO CRUNCHES! Not 'sit-ups', but 'crunches'. If you don't know what they are, look it up. Do as many as you can comfortably. I promise, that within a few days your lower back pain will be greatly reduced, if not gone entirely.
@BarnacleBoy42069
@BarnacleBoy42069 Жыл бұрын
I started out with flatbed for more money and I wanted to haul cool shit, been pretty satisfied so far
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the comment. How long have you been a flatbed driver? any tips for new drivers in the comments?
@BarnacleBoy42069
@BarnacleBoy42069 Жыл бұрын
@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News only been driving since January of 2023, for brand new flatbed drivers I suggest getting a step ladder for tall loads and secure your loads like your family is gonna be riding next to you the whole way, if you're not sure how to secure a particular type of load, ask someone! Other drivers are usually more than happy to help. And take breaks, if you run out of breath messing with the tarps take a little break, it gets easier over time.
@thehovermatic1243
@thehovermatic1243 Жыл бұрын
I came to flatbed with 20+ years as a local household goods mover. I’ve never worked in such a sedentary job as long haul trucking. It’s nice to break a sweat for 1-2 hours ever other day but it’s not enough exercise to overcome the 11 hours every day in the drivers seat. I do enjoy flatbed and the money is great but after two years I’ve got more aches and pains than I ever did as a full time laborer.
@melmusharaf
@melmusharaf Жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you just said.... except the last part 😅
@GrdDog
@GrdDog Жыл бұрын
I have one of each , reefer, dry and a flatbed gives me versatility in with I'm going to haul, flatbed has been making me more $$ this year.
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment John! Which do you prefer if $$ wasn't a factor? Do you like being able to be physical driving a flat bed compared to reefer/dry?
@GrdDog
@GrdDog Жыл бұрын
@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News I actually prefer reefer; I can also run dry if I want too, a variety is key.
@Nofacenocase1619
@Nofacenocase1619 Жыл бұрын
Where’s the best place to find a steal of a deal on a used stepdeck trailer boss ?
@offroadvehiclelover
@offroadvehiclelover Жыл бұрын
​​@@Nofacenocase1619everywhere right now 😂😂
@futurelink5967
@futurelink5967 Жыл бұрын
I do flatbed for a company ,in including a lot of tarps, secure and unsecured, don't have a problem doing it because the end of the day it keeps me physically fit, neck pain is my only problem sitting up for more than 10 hours a day, plus we only do recap.
@krazivon6659
@krazivon6659 Жыл бұрын
Just got my license and I'm looking into getting into the flatbed business
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
Congrats on your license :) Welcome to the flatbed trucking business!
@preppertrucker5736
@preppertrucker5736 Жыл бұрын
Flatbed is far more dangerous especially those without a headache rack so Definitely should be making far more 👍
@rickgregoire9041
@rickgregoire9041 Жыл бұрын
I drove flatbed for about 20 years and other than a couple of cuts and bruises, I felt I was in better shape than my later van days. I'm not saying van drivers are lazy but flatbed drivers are better physically off. The conestogas are alot easier than the company tarps( so many patches they weigh as much as two tarps) but as an owner op I had my own tarps and had them custom made to my specs and they were much easier to handle. In the colder weather though sometimes they were so stiff it was like trying to roll up a potato chip.For the most part ,I enjoyed my flatbed work and I did average more money,especially on the oversize work.
@shayanali3981
@shayanali3981 Жыл бұрын
We have been making 7k-8k weely for Dry Vans. Volume for Flats has gone down and if in good areas can even get 3/mile for vans.
@michaelboyle9512
@michaelboyle9512 Жыл бұрын
I've been flatbed for 3 years. I get a little tightness in my left shoulder to neck while driving around wreckless and risky city drivers (car or truck). I do think the exercise from flatbed keeps me in decent physical shape and keeps the old man pains away.
@M0rmagil
@M0rmagil Жыл бұрын
That’s not a good sign. I suggest you see a doc sooner rather than later.
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
Hey Michael! Thanks for commenting! Its good to know that flatbed drivers benefit from the physical tasks from flat bed. Please get your left shoulder/neck checked out, better to check it while its just a little tightness. Thanks for watching Michael.
@aaronfox5808
@aaronfox5808 Жыл бұрын
Wow on the wages up there, in Arizona a flat bed local driver got &12.00 per hour. It is always min. wage here. I had 5 years over the road experience in flat bed zero accidents or violations. Class A here or Class 1 up there I assume. We also had to hand unload the trailer daily at receiver's. I respect your world up there.
@user-jp7rk1uf2n
@user-jp7rk1uf2n Жыл бұрын
I used to haul LTL flatbed loads to the desert southwest. I made darn good money. I was leased to Ranger. Then they got sucked down by Landstar. Next several companies started cutting the rates. I dropped my lease when Landstar invalidated my lease and wanted me to sign a cheaper one.
@chipinfoos
@chipinfoos Жыл бұрын
I’m 3 months company roll tarp flatbedder and I love it, helps keep my blood pressure low 😂😂😂
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
That's amazing to hear!
@Clerrance
@Clerrance Жыл бұрын
Ronan’s great. Thank you for sharing!!
@melmusharaf
@melmusharaf Жыл бұрын
It would be nice if big fuel franchises implemented wellness/fitness areas... move the mini casinos if they have too
@markjukes7486
@markjukes7486 Жыл бұрын
He should do a comparison with hazmat vs tanker vs flatbed vs van. I delivered compressed gases for a living.
@M0rmagil
@M0rmagil Жыл бұрын
Yes, but like everything else, you have to know what you’re doing. It’s an expanded skill set, and you have to get off your ass instead of just holding a steering wheel.
@kevinfreyre1576
@kevinfreyre1576 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, people make it sound easier than what it actually is. It’s a pain in the ass.
@ne9835
@ne9835 Жыл бұрын
​What, truck driver?
@M0rmagil
@M0rmagil Жыл бұрын
Tarping isn’t fun this time of year, no doubt. Or most times of the year , for that matter. 🤪 I still take tarp loads on occasion when they pay significantly more then the other offerings.
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment! We 100% agree. How long have you been a flat bed driver?
@M0rmagil
@M0rmagil Жыл бұрын
@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News 5 years. I did 3 with Melton, who do train you well and provide good equipment, then I got my own truck and am working with DSV in Missoula, MT.
@detreknash4505
@detreknash4505 Жыл бұрын
REGARDLESS I I WAS TAUGHT TO WALK AROUND THE TRUCK 3X B FORE I SETTLE DOWN AND BREAKS. DRINK PLENTY OF WATER
@roncreach753
@roncreach753 Жыл бұрын
You always do flatbed/ dry van/reefer. Can you start adding tanker rates as well? Haz mat/Non Haz mat
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks for the comment. I will share your comment with the media team at our next meeting. Thanks for watching!
@classicxl
@classicxl Жыл бұрын
$23.50 is on the low end for local van drivers in the gta . Rates are Probably more like $25-27 a hr . So if you’re doing flatbed and have to carry those heavy A$$ tarps especially in windy conditions . If only being paid $28 a hr you as a individual have to really think is the extra $3 a hr worth it . Not to me it isn’t, especially with all the extra wear and tear you’re putting on your body . It would be a minimum of $30 for me to even consider it
@Dark_Night22
@Dark_Night22 Жыл бұрын
I run a roll tite and sometimes flatbed, I love it, keeps me mobile but I'm also physically active when at home as well
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks for your comment. How long have you been in flat bed? and are you a young driver? That's amazing to hear that flat bed driving keeps you mobile and active.
@Dark_Night22
@Dark_Night22 Жыл бұрын
@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News I’ve been driving class 1 part time from 1999-2020, then I went driving full time, and I’m 51. I meal prep all my meals, don’t eat fast food. Each day I dedicate 30 minutes to jump rope.
@vishaltamang1914
@vishaltamang1914 Жыл бұрын
Great information thank you
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
No problem!!
@dalegriffiths5334
@dalegriffiths5334 Жыл бұрын
It's a bonus when you get loads preloaded before you leave. Then hopefully there's no waiting to off load then reload. It does suck having to start on weekend. All people I hang out with or date are off weekends. So you can't have a social life. Also I know your company runs Cascadia or volvo. Those are just throw away trucks. Why can't a lease operator get a nice 389 pete with cummins?? I would be proud to have a nice truck and love to own it eventually. Then it's a pleasure to run the highway. I mean its our home. If that was an option I would be a,pleasure to run flatbed.
@erazco6568
@erazco6568 Жыл бұрын
Flat. Ed drivers make a average of 0.65 a mile the more you make the less miles you will get
@ashaikh
@ashaikh Жыл бұрын
Ok I will be coming soon to join you as Flatbed Driver and after sometime I would buy my truck if I understood the route correctly
@Dr.Pravdin
@Dr.Pravdin Жыл бұрын
Hey, Ronan. By the national average, did you mean Canada or US in this video? Were the money amounts mentioned in Canadian or US dollar? Thanks ✌️
@adambennett2176
@adambennett2176 Жыл бұрын
Hey Ronan!!! U better still be on your diet!!!! Happy health happy life!!!! Yes sir!!
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
Happy health happy life! Thanks for the push Adam!!
@Dragon_rls
@Dragon_rls Жыл бұрын
I wish I had went to work for Mr. Ronining. When I drove a truck back in the 2000s, I was working for food (barely.
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
Hey Dragon! What made you stop driving? Did you at least enjoy it back then?
@NoobsofFredo
@NoobsofFredo Жыл бұрын
Personally, the only reason I'm _not_ working flatbed is because TMC doesn't want to hire me until November when an accident I got into back in 2020 falls off my 3-year record. Once that happens though, and probably once I have 6 months of experience underway, it'll almost certainly be good-bye to Swift and hello to TMC.
@mr.honeybee7661
@mr.honeybee7661 Жыл бұрын
As someone who is currently working for tmc.. go somewhere else. This company is a joke and I'm average 1300 gross a week. This company has a ton of bullshit rules and lies out the ass. They are a sweat shop company that uses their shiny trucks to bring in rookies who dont know any better, work you for a few years or less and then hope you're smart enough to quit so they don't have to pay you the shares they gave you instead of putting it into a 401k or in your paycheck. Don't do it man. Go to Melton or maverick
@offroadvehiclelover
@offroadvehiclelover Жыл бұрын
Very nice man you'll do great I'm sure. Best of luck, flabed sounds like something I'll like to try out as an owner operator. Currently company.
@rogersideas772
@rogersideas772 11 ай бұрын
Do you guys hire out of the Kansas City, MO. area???
@OldE67
@OldE67 Жыл бұрын
Apologize about the auto text in the garbled message
@BornYooper
@BornYooper 10 ай бұрын
Glad I haul fuel/ethanol/bio for $34 plus OT after 40 hours....
@nexus-qb3bu
@nexus-qb3bu Жыл бұрын
Successful Indian true OO here. I play the easy Trucking game like a King with Reefer and Van. I will let American and Canadian borns to handle the Flatbed and Heavy hauling Super Trucker BS. 😂
@paramsodhi1408
@paramsodhi1408 Жыл бұрын
Can you please make a video on how to go from a driver to working as a dispatcher in your company.
@jjones5818
@jjones5818 Жыл бұрын
Treasonous bastard! lol
@NoobsofFredo
@NoobsofFredo Жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in this as well. Would like to start a company of my own in 15-20 years, and a path to learn the management part of the business would be wonderful.
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
Hey! thanks for the suggestion, ill bring it up to the media/video team next meeting!
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
@@NoobsofFredo For sure! ill bring it up next media team meeting! thanks!
@NoobsofFredo
@NoobsofFredo Жыл бұрын
@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Much appreciated! Looking forward to it, for sure.
@kingboss24
@kingboss24 4 ай бұрын
He forgot one thing when you are working hourly and you are over 40 hours per week you get paid time and a half as overtime
@nicureality1427
@nicureality1427 Жыл бұрын
49 weeks😂, really? Every deiver wants 2days every 2 weeks, that is 46 days so 7 weeks+plus some layovers-1more week, now do the calculation qgain with 44 on duty weeks ))
@bennfranksbeatz1581
@bennfranksbeatz1581 Жыл бұрын
I usually go with 40 weeks just to be on the safe side.
@Gazakory
@Gazakory Жыл бұрын
Those numbers sound like company drivers numbers, not owner operators
@aleksv6961
@aleksv6961 4 ай бұрын
Seriously? A lot of flatbed companies pay no more or less than dry van.
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News 4 ай бұрын
Which is insaneeeeeee
@aleksv6961
@aleksv6961 4 ай бұрын
@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Melton, TCM... about 0.5cpm 0.65 for million milers with less 2500 miles per week. Tell me pls who pays 8-12,000gross
@michaelbleckler4379
@michaelbleckler4379 Жыл бұрын
Because drivers are lazy! That is why no one wants to haul flat bed loads. Ronan im a fueler who does drops and pumps off and your are outside in the cold and heat.
@iboyioghenetejirigift2552
@iboyioghenetejirigift2552 Жыл бұрын
I currently work as a flatbed driver in my country which i truly enjoy. I will be more than happy to come over and work with you if the opportunity present itself. Thank you.
@392nightrunner
@392nightrunner Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking grand theft auto when I think here in the gta
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
with all the thefts and violence, the GTA should be known as "Grand Theft Auto" lol
@jeyroot
@jeyroot 8 ай бұрын
Depending on load and goods, in my case, unloading a flatbed with lumber sheet goods is always the best. Our dock is tight for dry vans. Only the true pro can back up using 3 points in less than 90 seconds. For the inexperienced dry van driver, it turns out to be a 20 mins event at our dock and laughable due to us seeing the grey hair OTR driver benchmark our dock like clock work!
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@mall_kelly
@mall_kelly 9 ай бұрын
25% dispatch fee?
@kevinfreyre1576
@kevinfreyre1576 Жыл бұрын
It’s literally HORRIBLE driving flatbed!! I’m always carrying heavy ass tarps, with 8 foot drops. I’m also always having to tarp super tall loads while carrying an extremely heavy tarp to cover them!
@BarnacleBoy42069
@BarnacleBoy42069 Жыл бұрын
You get used to it after a while, those tarps really can wear you out though. Still better than any other job I've had so far. And we get to haul cool shit sometimes lol
@jayc4715
@jayc4715 Жыл бұрын
​@@BarnacleBoy42069whoopie
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin, thanks for the comment. How long have you been in flat bed? can you express your pros/cons for the new drivers in the comments. Thanks!
@bigvince1218
@bigvince1218 Жыл бұрын
Company driver is the way, you can make 100k annually without the headache
@Brsrafal
@Brsrafal Жыл бұрын
i took on a flatbed so i get to move around instead of sitting in the truck . Six years later i feel like flatbed is too much extra responsibility I haul heavy pipe flatbed can be dangerous . I'm looking into hazzmat tanker just drag the hoes dont have to worry about strapping chaining stuff down .
@shhhhhhhhhhhhhh....
@shhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... Жыл бұрын
Where is BRIAN
@omararchivaldo3632
@omararchivaldo3632 Жыл бұрын
25% dispatch fee
@mr.honeybee7661
@mr.honeybee7661 11 ай бұрын
Yeah... flatbed barely pays more. It's not worth the extra work.
@jaydarkfire3567
@jaydarkfire3567 8 ай бұрын
All these guys in the comments saying flatbed is physical stop 🧢🧢 ive done flatbed for 20 years you all know you be asking the forift driver to pick the tarps up for you. Nevermind all the tarping stations
@lucasdalmola
@lucasdalmola Жыл бұрын
I wanna work for your company…
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын
Hey Lucas, visit out careers section on our website - www.ettransport.ca/careers/ :)
@412hwc
@412hwc Жыл бұрын
flatbed aint payin shiiit man if u catch a load over 2200 its prolly over size 😂😂 its been terrible as fucc for a while now man these brokers want u to work snd drive for 1.60 a mile all in...
@user-dp2ck8nv6g
@user-dp2ck8nv6g Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right about that. I too own a Flatbed and my brother is the driver and I dispatch my own truck. Those brokers out there be trying people, not all but most of them. They really think that the trucks run on water and not on diesel. It's a mess right now in the trucking industy. My saving grace is that I had purchased my tractor and trailer cash. So I can breathe just a tad bit. But I really feel bad for the drivers that has to worry about those costs while the brokers trying to pull a fast one on us. But through it all I still make out with at least $6K-$8K a week. If it's a great week it will be at least $8K a week. If not it will be around $6K-$7K a week.
@412hwc
@412hwc Жыл бұрын
@@user-dp2ck8nv6g i do about tha same number just a higher over head so my take home is about half give or take i had a 9k week proffit two weeks ago and guess what. getting home to tha east from the west i put $270 in tha bank before tax💀💀 its tha nature of tha beast i guess man. i dont want to haul cheap freight but if something covers my fuel...well i kind of have too. but my last 3 loads have been terrible and the actual deadhead and work i had to put in wasnt even close to what i got paid....
@user-ew8xz4dv2q
@user-ew8xz4dv2q 10 ай бұрын
@@user-dp2ck8nv6gNice! I’m saving to buy my own truck and flat bed. How much are you netting after the 6-8k?
@mguerrero8787
@mguerrero8787 Жыл бұрын
Flat beds aren't are much better unfortunately
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