CORRECTION: The USP Printstream Trade Up is actually MUCH BETTER than I show here! I made a math error, and it turns out that you can use an average float of 0.0823. You can use 9 MW Sawed Off Kiss Loves with one Factory New filler with a float of 0.04. Sorry about this brain fart HAHA! Here is the Updated Trade Up Summary (683% PROFITABLE!!!): www.tradeupspy.com/calculator/share/Trade%20Up%20%2312/false/3/0.087,0.087,0.087,0.087,0.087,0.087,0.087,0.087,0.087,0.03/6319,6319,6319,6319,6319,6319,6319,6319,6319,73/69,70,6318,6317/0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,9.5/93.65,6.85,131.23,23.4
@perustrolli4 ай бұрын
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that the money comes from making these trade up videos, not from the actual trade ups.
@billnyethespy36414 ай бұрын
no shit he makes money from the sponsor but the tradeup still rlly good
@Math4real.Schramm4 ай бұрын
Maybe a comment like this just comes from an incompetent person. I practically doubled my inventory value with trade ups last month. Just know when to stop
@perustrolli4 ай бұрын
@@Math4real.Schramm I have done plenty of trade ups. Definitely not worth your time and effort, you'll get much more money from any job. And you can hit bad side of variation, you can miss 10 ice coaled trade ups in a row. Its a waste of time. If there was free money everyone would be doing it. And I dont mean doing something making 50 cent / hour. Thats ridiculous.
@thesmuggest66804 ай бұрын
@@perustrolli wait, do people actually try to maintain an income from tradeups? I think most people do tradeups to just increase the value of their inventory without much risk, or without spending their salaries on pixels in a video game.
@nikovch14 ай бұрын
@@thesmuggest6680 the only person i know who did that was heyzeus
@Xfs264 ай бұрын
Favourite usp-s skin and you re giving me the trick to have it thank you man for this amazing trade up video preciate it 🥰
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
best of luck if you try it!!
@4thplace3984 ай бұрын
Still on that grind. My man 💯💯💯
@unpopulardude11884 ай бұрын
Let me do quick maths, assuming that float distribution is equal between 0,07 - 0,15 that would mean that our chance of getting good float to use in trade up is 3/8. We need 10 items to complete trade up so we need to buy around 27 items. We have 2/5 chances to get desire output for next trade up. If we need 27 skins to have 2/5 of skin that means to get 8 skins we need to set 540 buy orders to just make one trade up for Ice Coaled. This trade up on the other hand have 33% chance to get our desired input. So if 540 skins is enough to get 1/3 of skin, to get 9 of those we need astonishing 14 560 buy orders. Yeah Good Luck everybody
@perustrolli4 ай бұрын
You get shit floats most of the time and if the value of the skin drops you lose even more reselling. Trade ups are not as profitable as they used to be.
@unpopulardude11884 ай бұрын
@@perustrolli that is why I assumed that float distribution is equal (it is not)
@dadwdassdawd4 ай бұрын
The bro dosnt responde anymore 🤣
@unpopulardude11884 ай бұрын
@@dadwdassdawd I wonder why, hah
@perustrolli4 ай бұрын
@@unpopulardude1188 Clickbait titles to make that youtube money, it is what it is.
@karlmarx33884 ай бұрын
Definitely like that Printstream Mecha trade up. Gonna try that later :D
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
Good luck!
@_edinged3 ай бұрын
Keep going bro!
@mh_playz20194 ай бұрын
Sick Idea definitely gonna try it
@akaCyanide4 ай бұрын
Awesome video❤
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
Thanks 🤗
@ianwithani87372 ай бұрын
Hey man, I still don't get how the kiss loves are worth 0 dollars from the trade up. Could you explain it or someting?
@joelvandervorst96444 ай бұрын
On an average day 5000 min wear skins from the recoil case are sold lets say half of these are to buy orders and a third of those skin are below a .1 float you woukd have around 800 skins which you could trade up with a decent amount i guess this means every 10 days you would be able to do around 800 trade you would buy 2500 skins at .12 a day so you would need 300 steam balance but the biggest problem is that it takes 3 to 4 days if half the sales are via buy orders to be the first buy order at .12 to get filled if you inv gets above a thousand items the buy order cancels so you would need to list skins 3 to 4 times a day or use storage units that often to not lose buy order priority its a nice idea but for the volume sold a day this strat is def not worth all the time it would take keep that in mind before you try this strat
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
Its just a fun hobby that makes a few bucks here and there
@joelvandervorst96444 ай бұрын
@@TechsavvyScientist def true something intresting to touch on in a vid would be the fact that for most profitable trade ups like the emporer one the sell price on buff for the items with good float is higher then the EV of the trade up per item so if you want to gamble and make a bit of profit you can do tradeups but if you wanne make most its best to sell the good float skins on buff for the most profit
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
I actually made a video explaining just that
@joelvandervorst96444 ай бұрын
@@TechsavvyScientist i must have missed it thanks dude love the content btw
@notlxrd24 ай бұрын
"then this is the video for you" *Gets recommended an ohnepixel video*
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
i was talking about the endscreen :skull:
@notlxrd24 ай бұрын
@@TechsavvyScientist yeah, me too lmao, i had an ohnepickle video
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
Thats the after video up next. The end card is set to one of my videos
@Mr.BigBrain693 ай бұрын
this is 1 trade up doesn't work right now
@JangO_B4 ай бұрын
Amazing video keep it up .
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
thank u
@Neel984 ай бұрын
Huge Ws, after a long time.
@allkindoffstufff4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video! Just thinking when i set buy-orders i receive allmost no skins under the desired float. Is there any techniques for not experiencing this outcome which excludes sniping the steam market/other market sites?
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
if you set up the buy order correctly, you will get low floats too
@natrix74814 ай бұрын
@@TechsavvyScientistHow to set up buy order correctly?
@epicdragon56483 ай бұрын
still work?
@alt_baconxd4 ай бұрын
I like this and it's smart but getting filler skins is taking me so much time it's insane, any tips?
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
its hard, just gotta keep at it
@alt_baconxd4 ай бұрын
@@TechsavvyScientist but it takes multiple weeks to get fillers for a single tradeup am I doing sth wrong?
@OpusDei-mr4p4 ай бұрын
Hey man, do the UMPs really have to be all 0.1 float?
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
the average has to be lower than 0.1, but it doesnt really matter what each individual float is. just the average matters
@pmbbarreiros4 ай бұрын
If I just put steam balance on my account, how much can I really save with this trade up in the end, given that in my country a printsteam FN costs around €121. I know it will depend on my luck, but to get to printstream I will have to do a lot of trade ups, so I will still spend some money on buy orders, my real question is in the end I will save what €20, €40 €, how much?
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
all depends on luck, impossible to say
@xnazarokx80873 ай бұрын
please reply why did you set the kiss love for 0.00$ and how you calculate that
@andresomarassaf58243 ай бұрын
bro i checked myself, and these numbers are wack, it would seem he inflates the profitability by doing this
@nashvinash66464 ай бұрын
considering how many times you have hit the kiss love, it wasn't bad at all this time...only 1/3 😁
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
yeah and the other two werent p250s either
@alexandrosg16904 ай бұрын
Well done
@nitroexpressenjoyer51844 ай бұрын
Now use Buff-prices and you have to overpay for those floats = Loss of ~ 20% with each tradeup for the Printstream. Also what´s the point of doing trade-ups for sniped low-float-skins that can sell for a much higher price? Sorry but this whole video is just a big misinformation.
@Fannypakh4 ай бұрын
But saying that the sawed offs are 0 is like saying you dont profit from them either earlier. It's kinda girl mathing
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
Well yeah, when you hit a sawed off I considered it as 0 money back. The trade up is still profitable withe the sawed off being worth $0. You make money spamming that trade up, and youre getting sawed offs
@croakzy4 ай бұрын
I liked the video and the openings were crazy. But you can't fool people considering the average cost of "Keep skins" as you calculated on the video (like $0.635 for Recoil outcomes). If you receive one of those and put them on another trade, you are actually OVERPAYING them for the good floats. So you have to consider this overpay to calculate your profit. In the first case, the only profitable outcome would be the AK Ice coaled. If you really believe that is correct, then I guess you have to review your math bro... Don't get me wrong. I liked the idea and the content was interesting. But be careful of what you teach people, because most could lose a lot on this.
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
can you please help me understand (with math, not just words) what im doing wrong
@croakzy4 ай бұрын
@@TechsavvyScientist Let's take the Flora Carnivora as an example. It costs $1.11 and you paid $1.3 for your trade. 1.3 - 1.1 = 0.19 of Loss, but let's forget about it from now. Just consider you are paying $1.3 for each Flora, which is the price of your first tradeup. If you use 10 Flora Carnivoras for your next trade, it would be 13$ on total. All outputs from your second trade costs less than you paid for (less than 13$), with the exception of the AK Ice Coaled, which costs $22.7. 4:08 is the prove. So you are not paying $0.65 for each Flora. You are actually overpaying $0.19 for each one of them, making your tradeup not profitable at all and leaving you with a chance of 26.67% of chance for profiting each time. Let's consider now the USPs Flashback (the tradeup from your video). 8 x $1.3 = $10.4 + 2 x $1.61= $3.22 = $13.62 on total for the tradeup. So that's even worse than using 10 Floras from your last tradeups. All the prices I listed are from your video.
@croakzy4 ай бұрын
The idea of using the Floras on your next tradeup is a good way of getting good floats with no much effort, but is financially risky. You are basically risking more money than it actually costs for a 33% chance of profiting.
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
so you are right, but only if you only get the bad outcomes. the main idea here that you seem to have missed is that the first trade up (mil spec -> restricted) either gives you an item you can use, or a profit item. the profit items offset the loss outcomes. yeah you can say that the floras cost $1.3, but then you have to consider the profit outcomes from the mil spec trade up in the end. theres nothing wrong with your math but it misses a big part of the trade up, and essentially assumes you can only get 'keep' outcomes if you approach if from a different point of view, doing 5 mil spec to restricted trade ups and get exactly one of each (which is statistically what will happen in the long run, at least in terms of ratios) you arrive at my 'answer'. if you keep the r8 and dualies, your balance will be $1.3 lower than what you started with. so it cost you $1.3 to get the dualies and the r8, hence $0.65 each. moral of the story: you have to consider ALL outcomes of a trade up when doing profitability calculations
@croakzy4 ай бұрын
@@TechsavvyScientist Again... I'm not judging your methods bro. I'm actually going to try one of these myself lol What I am saying is it is not $0.65 each. You spend $1.3$ to make one Flora, if you use two: 2x1.3 = $2.6! If you use ten: 10x$1.3 = $13
@VagEL13 ай бұрын
how do you even find the skin below 0.1 float i see at the steam market all of them are above 0.1 float
@TechsavvyScientist3 ай бұрын
youse buy orders
@VagEL13 ай бұрын
@@TechsavvyScientist my option is only order price not float...
@GilangPutra-jx5ho4 ай бұрын
isnt the avg float for prinstream a lil too low? you'll still get it with higher FN float i guess, cause the outcome doesnt come out as 0.069 FN
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
wait yeah youre so right, i have no idea what i was smoking LMAO. my bad, brain fart
@GilangPutra-jx5ho4 ай бұрын
@@TechsavvyScientist lmao hahaha, that's all right, great video as always! waiting for the next trade up video
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
I added a pinned comment correcting my error
@s4q7u3 ай бұрын
How long did it take you to record it?
@TechsavvyScientist3 ай бұрын
Quite a while
@s4q7u3 ай бұрын
@@TechsavvyScientist idk why its a secret for you, but thanks
@TechsavvyScientist3 ай бұрын
I didnt keep track so i dont have an exact answer for you
@s4q7u3 ай бұрын
@@TechsavvyScientist oh my bad bro, but thanks really I started to understand trade-ups
@Blue_Floater4 ай бұрын
maybe you just give me the huntsman instead
@Theegle_4 ай бұрын
bruh ive been doin this for ages whyd you leak it 😭😭
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
Sorry…
@Trolis-xz4bq4 ай бұрын
how do i check the average float of the skins i buy ?? in steam marketplace
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
you have to have the csfloat extension that tells you the float, so you can calculate it. alternatively you can use trade up calculators like tradeupspy
@Trolis-xz4bq4 ай бұрын
@@TechsavvyScientist uh i set the extension up but im still stuck on the steam marketplace im looking for a ump roadblock that has a float lower than 0.1 or equal and theres none all of the umps have a float above 0.1. its my first time doing this so im confused
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
@Trolis-xz4bq buy orders are your friends
@Trolis-xz4bq4 ай бұрын
@@TechsavvyScientist i did a buy order for 2 just to test it out and both are above 0.1 float both are 1.3 am i missing something
@kasperpedersen5604 ай бұрын
If you love this video and this creator remember to like the video.
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
appreciate it, man!
@citrider15863 ай бұрын
fake !!!!!!
@daviq74 ай бұрын
or you could sell the low float bad skins for overpay!
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
You could also do that, but this is a lot more exciting
@tatecommonw29473 ай бұрын
lost 12 dollars lol
@TechsavvyScientist3 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that…
@BaneIstoricar4 ай бұрын
This video gonna have 550 likes in like 2 days
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
😎😎😎
@pablosky47394 ай бұрын
It really bothers me that you make a video saying that these contracts are profitable, when in fact they are not. I guess that's how you gain visits, making these types of videos and putting those titles that don't reflect reality. I understand that this type of content loses veracity over a few weeks with the change in market prices, but it is the last straw if you release an obsolete video. Maybe you did it a few weeks ago and you just published it now, but if that were the case, you would have to have checked the market price to know if your video is still valid at the time of publishing it. After watching your video, for someone who doesn't know about contracts, they will try to make contracts because maybe they think that what you are sharing is reliable information, but it is not. The only profitable contract is the last one, but it is the least accessible and also the best known. The rest of the contracts are not profitable. The first one you don't get any profit, you simply recover the contract (if you win), in the second you only win with the AK-47 Ice Cold, the rest is a loss. When you keep sawed-off shotguns you say that the weapons are "free" when in reality you are multiplying losses which is much worse than selling them at a higher price due to their good wear, it is basic probability. It's hard for me to understand that if you "dedicate yourself" to making this type of content you don't understand these concepts, I also don't understand how you don't know that the prices on the page you use for contracts have outdated prices for weapons, in addition to be inferior. The true price to buy weapons is the Steam market page, it is the only one that has prices updated in real time, when searching for them you immediately realize that these contracts are not profitable and turn out to be a mere fantasy. I take the time to write you my opinion so that you understand how someone on the other side who also knows this type of "business" sees it. I know that making videos for KZfaq is purely a personal thing and all the work comes from you, I hope these words help to improve your content.
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
I appreciate the feedback, however I find it really peculiar that in such a long response directly addressing the profitability of the trade ups in my video there are ZERO calculations. You also mentioned that the prices are outdated, and while I haven’t had time to check them myself right now, I did the Trade Ups on Saturday, and posted the video today (Monday). Yes, skins are volatile, but from experience I can say that most prices are probably still accurate. If not, that might be because 2000 people have watched the video and many are probably trying to do it, pushing prices up. I would love to see your calculations that you based your conclusion off. I don’t want to put out inaccurate information, so please, I would like to see what you did to determine that these trade ups are unprofitable. Thanks
@yukariyakumo37244 ай бұрын
nice vid i hope my luck is like yours, ive been doing this trick like months already but i always been very unlucky on the pinks (out of 5 attemps, all loss always)😭
@TechsavvyScientist4 ай бұрын
ahh im sorry to hear that :C better luck next time