Yes - The Story of Drama (and the '79 Paris Sessions) Documentary

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rael nyc

Жыл бұрын

An in-depth look at the ill-fated 1979 Paris recordings by Yes and their subsequent Drama album. This video also discusses the XYZ project with Jimmy Page and other Trevor Horn productions.
After researching / writing the script, I then set about hours and hours of sourcing and individually cleaning up / colourising photos, all of which have to be re-made to fit the aspect ratio of this screen. It's a slow, manual and tedious task. After recording my voice I then weave the sounds in and out of it, this is the fun part were the general shape of the video comes to life. Finally, I glue it all together, which, on my computer, is a real slog. The software glitches constantly under the sheer strain and it takes an age with software that I am basically learning as I use.
The reward is seeing the comments roll in and knowing that the video will bring so much pleasure to people. I suspect one day this channel will be wiped by the copyright bots but until then I'll continue to make them, perhaps on different (and even - shock - NON PROG!!!) bands.

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@paulweiss3818
@paulweiss3818 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, Drama is one of my favorite Yes albums. I never understood why so many fans wouldn't accept it as a true Yes album.
@kuttycrew
@kuttycrew Жыл бұрын
Agreed, my favorite to play drums to.
@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849
@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 Жыл бұрын
Drama *is* my favorite Yes album. I don't accept Yes fans that don't accept Drama. Same with Genesis fans that don't accept A Trick Of the Tail and Wind and Wuthering. They cease to exist in my worldview.
@paulnolan4971
@paulnolan4971 Жыл бұрын
@@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 I feel the same about them and Floyd very especially
@kuttycrew
@kuttycrew Жыл бұрын
@@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 yes, but do you accept calling all stations?
@warptek
@warptek Жыл бұрын
Paradoxically they don't accept because of the absence of Jon Anderson yet, if Jon had been let in on these sessions it would have been a completely different record entirely.
@robjordan2506
@robjordan2506 Жыл бұрын
My 17-year old self saw them on this tour, front row. I camped in front of the ticket office at Notre Dame U. for 3 days to get those seats. I had no idea that Anderson was not on the tour and was disappointed when I saw TH singing, wearing a short brown jacket that had HOLLYWOOD written across the back in sequins. It didn't seem very ''Yes-like.'' However, the concert was musically brilliant even without him. I had the good fortune to meet Steve and Chris after the show and was given a ride home in their limo after I jumped a barricade to get Steve the posters (Studebaker Museum) that he had left behind after signing autographs for fans. They asked me what other music I listened to and we talked about Rush and King Crimson. I could barely breathe in their presence and couldn't believe my good fortune. What a thrill.
@BrunoniTube
@BrunoniTube Жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@sternzbt
@sternzbt Жыл бұрын
What a great experience for you. I had a very similar thing happen to me when I met Peter Gabriel
@ednewton4455
@ednewton4455 Жыл бұрын
What an incredible experience/memory 👏
@papadopp3870
@papadopp3870 Жыл бұрын
Cool memory, Rob!!! Was that in Indiana in America? During the 90s “Union” tour, I met Rick and Jon when I was thirty-five. I had the same reaction! Fortunately, Rick fixed me a nice drink. Way nice. He became me best mate right away. We mocked John about his pronunciation of the word “idea”, then realized I did, too. I felt bad the next day… not for the mockery of my favourite vocalist, but because of Rick’s nice drinks! That, and we had to drive 425 miles for a gig that day. It was well worth it!!! Haven’t heard from me mate since, tho!
@missingremote4388
@missingremote4388 Жыл бұрын
Amazing stories I went to and saw Yes 90125 in 1983 . Probably when I became a fan. But I was more into the Who's style R&B or ledzeppelin ☆ shout-out to Gary Newman in the white corvette
@LoneLee2022
@LoneLee2022 Жыл бұрын
Drama is one of my favorite YES albums. The music is incredible.
@progessiverockstories
@progessiverockstories Жыл бұрын
How I make these videos: After researching / writing the script, I then set about hours and hours of sourcing and individually cleaning up / colourising photos, all of which have to be re-made to fit the aspect ratio of this screen. It's a slow, manual and tedious task. After recording my voice I then weave the sounds in and out of it, this is the fun part where magic happens and the story starts to tell itself. Finally, I glue it all together, which, on my computer, is a real slog. The software glitches constantly under the sheer strain and it takes an age with software that I am basically learning as I use. The reward is seeing the comments roll in and knowing that the video will bring so much pleasure to people. I suspect one day this channel will be wiped by the copyright bots but until then I'll continue to make them, perhaps on different (and even - shock - NON PROG!!!) bands. Enjoy Droogs....
@kevhead1525
@kevhead1525 Жыл бұрын
I will, little Alex. 😄
@TheProgCorner
@TheProgCorner Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all you are doing for the Prog community!!! 👍❤️🤘
@Originalspruce
@Originalspruce Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for dedicated and creative efforts. They are truly appreciated
@gordonlandreth9550
@gordonlandreth9550 Жыл бұрын
Rock history from the late 60's to about the early 80's is definitely fascinating , because that was when most of the greatest music was produced . Enjoy all of your documentaries !
@mattmarkus4868
@mattmarkus4868 Жыл бұрын
why is jon anderson singing annoying vocals like that of a leprechaun in my ears during the studio scenes where they are speaking?
@timmee6937
@timmee6937 Жыл бұрын
Drama has always been my favorite Yes album. Its futuristic, almost extraterrestrial soundscape, is deeply hypnotic. Trevor's production is absolutely flawless and packs a smooth sonic punch. Forty two years have gone by yet it's still as fresh as ever.
@roboneil408
@roboneil408 Жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you. I'm 57 years old and have listened to an extreme amount of music throughout my life. However, YES has always been my mainstay and my favorite overall. And mind you, I like many different genres of music.
@josephbenesch4220
@josephbenesch4220 Жыл бұрын
Today agree !!! Fav by far
@jamesbyers6720
@jamesbyers6720 Жыл бұрын
22 years
@jamesbyers6720
@jamesbyers6720 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. 42 years, 22 years, 12 years, yesterday. The songs are ageless, yet they define an age of the band.
@Acujeremy
@Acujeremy Жыл бұрын
Something is wrong with people that think Drama is the best Yes album. Sorry, but that is just absurd!
@dbaytug
@dbaytug Жыл бұрын
The reprise in Does it Really Happen? Is one of the stand out moments of the album and Squire's work. It is stunning.
@jonesy2111
@jonesy2111 Жыл бұрын
I don't care what anyone says (including Yes purists and fans) Drama is the bands masterpiece and I have bought it on several formats over the years and unlike some of their albums Drama still sounds so fresh and powerful.
@mihali9655
@mihali9655 3 ай бұрын
I agree totally. All killer no filler.
@charlesnolan7602
@charlesnolan7602 2 ай бұрын
Excellent album, after 44 years, I still play it regularly
@loftlegacy
@loftlegacy Жыл бұрын
The 79 sessions sound really tired. It was accidental genius that Buggles were stitched into Yes. The resulting album is 100% a Yes album and stood the test of time. The production of the album is the sharpest and crispest the band has done. The hangover from the album laid the foundations for the mega-success of 90125. Another amazing documentary (with welcoming narration local to me!)
@raymondhartmeijer9300
@raymondhartmeijer9300 Жыл бұрын
I agree and also with the documentary. The Paris sessions do sound as if they're tired and running out of good ideas.. It sounds like they were making a Jon Anderson solo record. They lacked an edge and a drama in the music. Messiah, Does it really happen, Tempus F all had that rocking quality that the band needed, even if that ment they had to go ahead without Anderson
@220773
@220773 Жыл бұрын
The Paris sessions were typically Yes, this album is so un-Yes, we've finally got to take this and accept it. 'Drama' will remain an unfinished project and their best album. As you can clearly see, I'm not a Yes lover at all, so take me for what I am, I'm not trying to be in tune with you fans so I know I'll probably upset some of yous.
@hpatss4966
@hpatss4966 Жыл бұрын
@@220773 bro you might as well just say “I want attention”
@johng2880
@johng2880 Жыл бұрын
It's usually trouble if you can understand Jon's lyrics clearly.
@220773
@220773 Жыл бұрын
@@hpatss4966 That's what you like to think. I simply speak my heart out, for me myself first and for those who might connect with it. All the rest doesn't bother me at all, I know many people might disagree, not a problem. So there you go, lad.
@caramanico1
@caramanico1 Жыл бұрын
While I loved The Yes Album through Going For The One, I wasn't stuck on holding them to that sound/feel. When Drama came out it instantly became one of my top couple of fave Yes albums. One of the most underrated albums ever.
@BKastrosky
@BKastrosky Жыл бұрын
Right, Close to the Edge sucks! And that singer with high pitched voice - how great that he didn't sing on that brilliant album!
@guitarpedaldemos9121
@guitarpedaldemos9121 Жыл бұрын
I liked Drama
@jtoms3
@jtoms3 Жыл бұрын
@@BKastrosky Okay, I'll admit it: I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or sincere.
@louise_rose
@louise_rose Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's not a bad album at all - just different! (must have seemed very confusing to fans at the time though, because Anderson and Wakeman had come to be seen as essential elements of the band). It will have helped that Trevor Horn was not just a superb producer, but also a big and long-term fan of Yes - something that wasn't true of most young bands during those years! Horn is on record saying that seeing Yes (with Patrick Moraz on keys) during the Relayer tour in 1975 (probably the London Queen 's Park gig, which was filmed by the BBC and has been released on dvd since) was one of the most powerful and moving shows he went to during the entire 1970s, and I understand him - I too LOVE Relayer and its particular sound, that album was far ahead of its time and a musical triumph. :)
@3243_
@3243_ Жыл бұрын
Downes' metallic/glassy B3 chords and Squire's flanged bass on "Tempus Fugit" are among the band's greatest moments.
@gordonlandreth9550
@gordonlandreth9550 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree , right - the bass put through a flanger . A cool organ sound , and one of the hottest arrangements ever by Yes .
@ArtB414
@ArtB414 Жыл бұрын
Squire owned a bass guitar which had a flanger system unit build in. He used that in couple Yes songs. It was very distinctive. You couldn't miss it.
@johnsharp71
@johnsharp71 Жыл бұрын
It was a Hammond J122, so far as I am aware; he didn't have a B3 until he bought my old one, previously owned by Ken Hensley, prior to the second Asia album. It can be viewed in all its tubular steel legged glory on the Asia in Asia video although, frankly, it sounds awful!
@3243_
@3243_ Жыл бұрын
Well, it sounded great on "Tempus Fugit". :)
@3243_
@3243_ Жыл бұрын
And thank you for the correction/elucidation.
@davethomas6337
@davethomas6337 Жыл бұрын
1980, a 16 year old wanted to give trial to a band he never heard of, but where to begin? I tried the latest album. From first note to end note I was frozen in amazement with each instrument BUSY and so well orchestrated!!! This quickly became my daily practise album with guitar & bass, along with Rush & Pink Floyd. Howe’s playing style appeared to be a prelude to Asia music. To this day I crank up Drama, so as to send me to bed full of incredible music in my mind- note for note with each instrument. Thank you Drama Crew- Howe, Squire, White, Downes & Horn
@giovannigalvagno6968
@giovannigalvagno6968 3 ай бұрын
I share the same story, with the difference that I was 12 and not 16 and I asked my aunt the LP Drama as a present for Christmas. From then on Yes were always in my life and built a sort of Soundtrack to it!
@GraachAhim
@GraachAhim Жыл бұрын
Some albums from exactely the same era were also ill-received at the time, but as the years-decades passed most people came to understand them and recognize them as the true mastepieces they were. I'm talking about Genesis' Duke and Zeppelin's In Through The Outdoor.
@major9991
@major9991 Жыл бұрын
There are many great albums by Yes, Fragile , Close to the edge are on top for me. Then Drama is next, its fresh and dynamic throughout the album. I saw Yes touring the "Drama" album. Such a great concert!
@winstontk
@winstontk Жыл бұрын
This documentary is absolutely ASTONISHING!! So incredibly well done. I totally agree with so much of the commentary as well. What a fascinating era for this incredible band. Congratulations, sir, on producing such a fine piece of work for us all to enjoy.
@progessiverockstories
@progessiverockstories Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate, I really appreciate comments like this.
@andreklawa-tecladodescompl5975
@andreklawa-tecladodescompl5975 Жыл бұрын
I agree!! Abraços do Brasil!!!! Hugs from Brazil!!!!
@MurfTunes
@MurfTunes Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this doc. I was able to interview Steve Howe several years ago on my radio show. I told him Drama was my favorite Yes album. He said he had great affection for the project.
@aeropilot4419
@aeropilot4419 Жыл бұрын
The last of Howe’s peak creative period is on Drama, imho
@darkcharles7472
@darkcharles7472 Жыл бұрын
@@aeropilot4419 Thats 100%. He never played with that intensity and power again. Shame.
@monicadonnelly4991
@monicadonnelly4991 Жыл бұрын
@@aeropilot4419 What happened to him after that
@autk
@autk 5 ай бұрын
After Drama and Asia, Howe went lounge with his sound and style, killed my heart
@autk
@autk 5 ай бұрын
​@@darkcharles7472 Facts
@rhoadnaroahs
@rhoadnaroahs Жыл бұрын
I didn't discover this album until 1986. Being a huge Yes, Asia and Buggles fan, I somehow found out that Geoff and Trevor were on Drama and bought it immediately. Loved it since then!
@BrentAdams
@BrentAdams Жыл бұрын
Drama became, probably, my favorite Yes Album. It had the "life" and vitality reminiscent in many groups first albums. It also seemed like more of a complete work, rather than a varied collection, like a few of their other albums.
@ikkenhisatsu7170
@ikkenhisatsu7170 Жыл бұрын
Drama was one of the best YES records, for me. I've been a fan since 1971. The band grew and they've always changed to fit the times. I'm a huge Jon Anderson fan, but Trevor Horn brought a new voice, and a good one, and Geoff Downes was a perfect fit. Great video.
@ikkenhisatsu7170
@ikkenhisatsu7170 Жыл бұрын
@Randy A I like Benoit very much. I wish they'd kept him instead of Davison - his voice, while more like Horn's, sometimes has a bite or edge like Anderson's.
@allenbrooksoffical
@allenbrooksoffical Жыл бұрын
I received this album as a Christmas gift when it was released... I was just a kid but knew of Yes from roundabout. This record had a huge impact on me. It's very unique! Love this record.....
@antfactor
@antfactor Жыл бұрын
First rock concert I ever saw - at 14 years old. It blew me away! And the Fairlight never lost my imagination. Kudos to Horn and Downes for breathing new sonic vistas into the Yes vocabulary... 🙏
@dreamscuba
@dreamscuba Жыл бұрын
Drama is one of my favourite Yes albums. I love the energy and riffs... it's classic. Thanks for the documentary.
@gabesvidz
@gabesvidz Жыл бұрын
Love Drama. It brought a 3rd dimension to Yes and gave them a much needed punch that really kicked ass & modernized them at a changing time in rock. Excellent rockumentary.
@jprph1
@jprph1 Жыл бұрын
This was an absolute delight to watch. I consider myself a pretty big Yes fan, but many of the historical points that were covered in this documentary I had never known about. I appreciate all the time and effort put forth to produce this and I subscribed to the channel and I’m looking forward to reviewing the rest of the content by this creator. Congratulations on a job well done!🎉❤
@tommonk7651
@tommonk7651 Жыл бұрын
Drama came out when I was in college, and I had the album. I always liked it quite a bit.
@kevhead1525
@kevhead1525 Жыл бұрын
The new wave Yes album. Looking forward to this.
@skeezix64
@skeezix64 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic “documentary?” In 1980 I was 16 and a fanatical Yes fan. Seeing this tour in the round in LA in the 5th row, was such a thrill. Of course I was somewhat devastated not to have Rick and Jon up there on the stage, but Steve Chris and Alan were three of my heroes. Seems so long ago and yet remains so vivid. And I still love Drama. Always will.
@tragus44
@tragus44 Жыл бұрын
same here same age also was a yes fanatic
@gabesvidz
@gabesvidz Жыл бұрын
I also was at the sports arena for that tour but was 18.
@ElCrusherDeCraneos
@ElCrusherDeCraneos Жыл бұрын
I have to tell you as a Rush fan early on when my good friend turned me on to Yes (he wasn't into Rush) I loved their music but Drama quickly became my all time favorite recording from the band. It is still in my regular rotation of music to play in my car and phone. It's as timeless as ever! Also, I'm a huge Buggles fan and I thank you for making this informative documentary as I've often wondered how the album came to be! Kudos to you!!!
@randolphmcinvale3609
@randolphmcinvale3609 Жыл бұрын
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@randolphmcinvale3609
@randolphmcinvale3609 Жыл бұрын
trrrr 13:07 13:08 😮😮😅😅😅😮
@barrykimber
@barrykimber Жыл бұрын
Agree totally that this is one Yes album that doesn't seem to sound dated. I can recall the hostility from many fans to the idea of 'plastic pop' in the form of Buggles teaming up with the remants of Yes, but it actually worked....i loved this album & saw them on the UK leg of the Drama tour and they were excellent, a real shame they didn't go on to do more together
@nelmquist
@nelmquist Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Never would expect Yes+Buggles to mix, but the key factor is talent. Trevor Horn is a brilliant music mind.
@jefflofgren5304
@jefflofgren5304 Жыл бұрын
All 5 of the same musicians regrouped for the Yes album "Fly From Here-Return Trip" something like 30 years later!
@mpRamosgroove
@mpRamosgroove Жыл бұрын
Great job on this documentary. It really struck me when you compared Drama to The Yes Album because they are my favorite two albums by YES.
@SteveBello
@SteveBello Жыл бұрын
When I was getting into Yes in the early 80s, people told me not to buy DRAMA but glad I didn't listen to them. I think it's a fantastic album, definitely in my top 5 Yes albums! It's almost 'metal' for Yes!
@BKastrosky
@BKastrosky 9 ай бұрын
I am a camera, camera is metal indeed! LOL!
@davidbutler8096
@davidbutler8096 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for another fantastically researched and delivered video. YES is the band I've seen the most times live, and it's a shame that Jon and Steve can't bury the hatchet and give us longtime fans one last tour. Drama was a turning point for a lot of the old school fans, but I, like the majority here, liked it...a lot. Trevor Horn hit it out of the park with his involvement with FGTH and Welcome to the Pleasuredome, which I think is the best track...with a cameo from Steve.
@minsterhill
@minsterhill Жыл бұрын
Rael!!!! You rock! Nothing else could be or should be said. Thank you!!!
@barryclay9084
@barryclay9084 Жыл бұрын
My friends and I were always amazed at the crisp, clear production of Drama. This album sounded sooo fresh, especially when compared to Tormato. We would crank it up in my car (which was white, incidentally) and always listened to it in one sitting, so to speak. It has remained the most played of all my Yes albums. Tempus Fugit!
@lylesmith3506
@lylesmith3506 Жыл бұрын
This is a great album. I play it all the time. Finally Steve, Chris and Alan could open up.
@aschule5684
@aschule5684 7 ай бұрын
Such a brilliant masterpiece ! Steve Chris and Alan played with a genuine enthusiasm for this project with unexpected newbies that created a YES not heard before or since. A captured moment in time that will forever stand alone in it's unique flare and excitement. Sometimes out of chaos comes magic!
@autk
@autk 6 ай бұрын
Definitely
@TheSteveSteele
@TheSteveSteele Жыл бұрын
Excellent commentary! I’ve always liked Drama. In fact, after the early albums with Bruford, and Relayer, Drama sits solidly after those. I now remember the Page and Squire attempt. I’d forgotten about that.
@mattbrowne7862
@mattbrowne7862 Жыл бұрын
As an avid Yes fan for 40+ years, I really love the fade in of Does It Really Happen! Such a great jam and I'm so drawn to the off beat going on with Howe and Downes. Always fresh to listen to. Yay Yes
@louise_rose
@louise_rose Жыл бұрын
I remember hearing Anderson saying in some interview: "We had a lot of fine dinners in Paris, with quite a bit of good wine, while we were also trying to work out an album. One day when Rick and I were the only ones to show up at the studio after one of these dinners, we stood there looking at each other across a large table with tape reels, paper sheets and bottles, considering the situation. That's when we both felt that the sessions had more or less stalled, and decided to pull out of the band". This is probably a bit stylized and oversimplified, but it may catch some of what it felt like in the band at the time... :)
@cjo2012
@cjo2012 Жыл бұрын
Bless Ya Loise Rose. And Merry Christmas.
@louise_rose
@louise_rose Жыл бұрын
@@cjo2012 Yes, it's a rather funny picture he painted, isn't it? ;) Merry Christmas and Many Happy Returns!
@yes_head
@yes_head Жыл бұрын
I gather Anderson was working with Vangelis on the Short Stories album in early '79, before the Yes tour that year. But I also get the sense that experience shifted his whole working style and the kind of music he wanted to make. Rick seemed sympathetic, but there must also have been big personality conflicts going on. In the Dan Hedges book he refers to Steve Howe ripping into Jon at one point. I have a feeling much of their current dysfunction dates all the way back to that period.
@skeezix64
@skeezix64 Жыл бұрын
Thats really sad. Those guys are all such heroes to me. I got to meet all five of the classic line up in 1996 at a private performance at Tower Records in Hollywood. I guess it makes me sad that they didn’t honor themselves and their deeply devoted fans enough to handle adversity better than they did back then, and again when Jon was sick a few years ago and they just moved on without him. Man those shows in SLO in ‘96 and then the tours in the early aughts with Wakeman. Priceless how we all got to recapture it together for a while, while Chris was still alive.
@yes_head
@yes_head Жыл бұрын
@@skeezix64 What's *really* tragic is that it seems a lot of the rift was because of Jon and Chris' wives not getting along. Which is really stupid considering both marriages were over by the end of the 80's.
@tomfenn7149
@tomfenn7149 Жыл бұрын
Still my favourite YES recording. And when I sold all my records, 'Drama' was the one YES album I kept, and still have. Agree completely that it still sounds modern and fresh today. It does! My 17 year old daughter loves it too. Great video!
@rickshearer
@rickshearer 10 ай бұрын
Drama IS and ALWAYS will be a proper YES album!
@BKastrosky
@BKastrosky 9 ай бұрын
Really?
@rickshearer
@rickshearer 9 ай бұрын
Does it really happen? Yes! @@BKastrosky
@kennybrown1315
@kennybrown1315 Жыл бұрын
Superb documentary of a time in the band that should never be forgotten for all the best reasons. Great musicianship, production, engineering, songwriting, its only a pity a decent live recording and video doesnt exist. Horn and Downes gave them a reboot and its arguable 90125 wouldnt have happened without this line up. It allowed Yes to move on from Anderson and when they brought him back it was on the band’s terms. It was good that some Drama songs were given an airing when Benoit David was in the band and for me Fly From Here is a stunning album. Also Topographic Drama tour put the album back on the map. Great work mate
@TomHolliday9
@TomHolliday9 Жыл бұрын
Great take on this period of Yes' history! Thanks for posting this. Really enjoyed it. Drama has always ranked pretty high in their catalog for me..
@fallingmanuk
@fallingmanuk Жыл бұрын
My older brother took to Hammersmith Odeon for the first time December 1980 to see Yes with the Buggles chaps - wow what a first London gig! I was 13 years old but already mad about prog rock especially Genesis and Yes, and already a wannabe synth player so Geoff Downes' keyboard rig was highly drollworthy! Really enjoyed this documentary as I do all your other ones so thank you so much and keep up the fantastic work.
@teamflanneloutdoors5631
@teamflanneloutdoors5631 8 ай бұрын
SO. Once again I had avant garde taste that was ahead of the times... Has been years, but here I am yet again revisiting an ol' favorite friend.
@progessiverockstories
@progessiverockstories 8 ай бұрын
Welcome back my frien.....
@stevelanemusic4463
@stevelanemusic4463 Жыл бұрын
I'm only a 1/4th of the way in, and I can already say this is brilliant, yet again. Fantastic content brother, as always...
@brianostube
@brianostube Жыл бұрын
Extremely well done! I hadn't seen many of these photos before - great research & production to pull this all together!
@williamlangan5902
@williamlangan5902 Жыл бұрын
Watching this documentary has given me more of an appreciation for Drama. I always loved Tempus Fugit and liked Does It Really Happen and Machine Messiah. My least favorite was Into The Lens. Of course I missed Jon Anderson. How can you not? The 1979 songs are interesting but could've used some more production work, as great a producer as Roy Thomas Baker is. Run With The Fox wasn't that bad. It was interesting but I found a parody of it A New Pair Of Socks more entertaining. Once again, a great documentary. Thanks for making it!
@mathames4679
@mathames4679 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, well done. All of your hard work on the audio and visuals is worthwhile.
@Justin_Kipper
@Justin_Kipper Жыл бұрын
Saw the band on the Drama tour in Tulsa. Wasn't sure what to make of it or the album itself at the time. But over the years, I've come to appreciate how good the album is, and it's probably what Yes needed to do at that point. It's an essential and important part of the long and somewhat mysterious musical road that Yes traveled, some of which we'll never know the full story behind...but we have the most important part of the story: the music itself. Great video, your work in making these is much appreciated!
@2112Relayer
@2112Relayer Жыл бұрын
Great work...Drama has always been one of my favorite Yes albums. I seem to remember an interview with Howe from the time in which he explains that he and Jon simply weren't seeing eye to eye on what an 80's version of the band should sound like. Howe even said that all of Jon's material from the time equated to "airy fairy bits of music", while Howe wanted something grittier. On past albums, they were able to work things out as most of their best material combines sections of Howe's rockier playing and Jon's softer approach. I guess they just got fed up with compromising with each other. I think those things combined with the fact that the classic lineup had to be burnt out at the time led to artistic change becoming a necessity.
@grantpenton1850
@grantpenton1850 Жыл бұрын
The AWBH story I read asserts that Jon and Steve did not communicate for almost a decade after the split, and that the reunion happened only because Jon talked to Rick about a joint project and Ricked talked to Bill who was working with Steve at the time, who initially had no interest in ever working with Jon again... like the state of the band today!
@2112Relayer
@2112Relayer Жыл бұрын
@@grantpenton1850 I certainly don't envy the creative process that these guys must have gone through back then. Write, record, tour...maybe get a couple weeks off here and there. Pressure from the record company to continue this cycle every year. It has to become a real grind after a while and topped off with the fact that it's the same bunch of guys their stuck with. I imagine it would be very easy, friendships aside, to get really annoyed at the others from time to time. I think Jon assumed when he left Yes, that would be the end of the band. I don't believe he considered that they may want to try it without him. It happened back in the Drama days and happened again later on when Jon was going through his health issues and was replaced by Benoit. Working with the same people all the time, each of whom have their own agenda, has to be a serious drag. You get to the point where you know how the others will respond to a question before asking it, so topics stay buried instead of being brought out into the open. There aren't a whole lot of bands that have been able to survive that without taking years off to recharge every now and then. Unfortunately, I think Jon and Steve have passed the point of no return years ago.
@2LegsAPaulMcCartneyPodcast
@2LegsAPaulMcCartneyPodcast Жыл бұрын
Knocked it out of the park again! Thank you! Please keep doing more Yes albums!
@WolfhandsYouTube
@WolfhandsYouTube Жыл бұрын
Chris was using his Ranney 8 string bass heavily in these sessions - it sounds so good, especially cranked through a Marshall.
@lesimprosdulezardvert1342
@lesimprosdulezardvert1342 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that "Drama" was the nervous point between Chris Squire and Jon Anderson. Yes made their music revolution, and they needed it too, without Jon Anderson. He came back when all the work was done for "90125", but the acrymony still lives when Anderson tried to get back the direction of the band. And we know the story, Big Generator, ABWH, Union, Talk, and after, get back to the original Yes with Keys to Ascension. It can explain why Chris Squire got rid of Jon Anderson in 2008 (?) But as a fan, I deplore the loss of Jon Anderson's voice. The current Yes is just a shame
@charleshemphill6923
@charleshemphill6923 Жыл бұрын
Im just happy to have seen Steve play
@Jeff-o-Lee
@Jeff-o-Lee Жыл бұрын
I agree. The current YES is a shame. After the 2004 tour, Jon wanted a break. Then he got sick. So, in 2008, the guys told Wakeman that they are moving on. Wakeman wanted no part of YES. Supposedly Jon & Chris reached out to each other of a possible future but, Chris passed. Jon said on Rick Beato's channel that Steve was dodging him during the '17 R&R Hall of Fame. Geddy Lee said there was a schism between ARW & Yes during the rehearsals. So, it's best Rick & Wakeman moved on. Without Chris & even Alan, it's not Yes
@nickmonks9563
@nickmonks9563 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeff-o-Lee "Without Chris & even Alan, it's not Yes." I think it can be, though...these just aren't the musicians to capture the spirit of what Yes is. Yes isn't a sound...it's more like a philosophy of music making. There is a "something" underneath everything that defines them - an "X" factor if you will beyond just big, tight, high harmonies, rhythmic creativity, dream-like lyrics and expansive melodies and solos...there's an energy that underlies the band's best work, and I believe the right musicians could find it. Unfortunately, I feel like the current band is more of facsimile of Yes' components than the keeper of the flame that truly defines the band.
@garyevans3051
@garyevans3051 Жыл бұрын
As a life long Yes fan i say go to hell Steve Howe. Yes is not Yes without Jon Anderson.
@220773
@220773 Жыл бұрын
Not being a Yes fan but a Genesis one indeed I do think this will hurt you quite a lot but, man, I still think Yes' main problem has always been Steve Howe. Not Chris, not Jon. Steve Howe, to me one of the most overrated guitar players ever. Multiple licks everywhere, constantly playing and fitting in any bit of any song, getting sometimes lost in what he's doing and even (ever noticed?) missing some notes and mistaking them. He fared much better on classic and acoustic guitars. He did all that in Yes and while on 'The Yes Album' someone must have told him to play WITH the band and not as a soloist, what he was left free to do in the subsequent albums is such a shame. I can't get why Rick Wakeman could stand all this, he was constantly overshadowed by Howe. Jon Anderson seemed to like it, after all he also tends to build music non-stop losing himself into it... what Yes lacked was (as Rael here says) 'precision and control'. They never knew when it was time to stop it and turn pages... strangely enough, they succeded in doing that only on 'Tales', in my opinion, there are many more silent and sweet moments in those tunes, unlike what usually happened in Yes. When you hear this band you can lose your breath, not because it's breathtaking but simply because you just can't breathe all through this mess!!! 'Tormato' is their worst example ever. How can you really like that album? Apart from its opener, a fine song that reminds me of my dear bagpipes (I'm Scottish), the rest is unlistenable. It was good they broke up after that, it shows justice exists and this band couldn't go on playing senselessly for more and more years. Genesis were quite the opposite: measure, sense of melody, control, craftwork. And Genesis were much more direct and even forward looking than Yes. Anyway, if ever someone got rid of Jon Anderson don't point your fingers on Chris alone, he's the best Yes music writer, he could punch you straight in the eye with his aggressive tunes... try and check out what Steve Howe had in his mind... now Chris has gone, so why is Steve not considering letting Jon in again? There must be something wrong............ 'Drama' will remain a lone gem, unrepeated , probably not repeatable. Their best album by far. But I'm a Genesis man, not a Yes one, proudly.
@gregggoss2210
@gregggoss2210 7 ай бұрын
When my friends and myself purchased tickets for this show, there was absolutely no mention of the personnel change by anyone involved. Not the promoter, not the radio stations, no one. We felt betrayed and cheated. Strangely enough, when Asia formed and toured, we forgot it and moved on. Looking back now, the show was good but it didn't feel like it at the time. By the way, great job on this. You are awesome.
@markwdixon
@markwdixon Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Really enjoyed this video. I'm a long time Yes fan who was very surprised to find that I loved Drama when it came out. Still sounds great today. Cheers!
@lordybomb
@lordybomb Жыл бұрын
It's absolutely worth it- all you've been doing... I learn so much and hear so many things that are new... just saying thank you.
@craigwillms61
@craigwillms61 Жыл бұрын
To this day Drama is my favorite Yes album.
@trioofone8911
@trioofone8911 Жыл бұрын
Long time Yes fan. I always loved the Drama album
@sogggyyy
@sogggyyy Жыл бұрын
Two of my all-time favorites are Tormato and The Paris Sessions. However, Drama was so distinctive and the complexity of the songs necessitated multiple listenings. Without Drama launching Yes into the 1980s, we wouldn't have 90125 and Big Generator.
@MuzixMaker
@MuzixMaker Жыл бұрын
Tempus Fugit is one f my favorite Yes tracks. Amazing energy.
@Yanto-Bardic
@Yanto-Bardic Жыл бұрын
The "Classic" line-up is Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe and Squire. As in THE line-up that created, composed, played on, recorded and completed "Close To The Edge".
@marcjdt5796
@marcjdt5796 Жыл бұрын
The first album of Yes i heard in 1983... I discovered how the bass could be creative !
@LoneLee2022
@LoneLee2022 Жыл бұрын
Because Squire was the best bass player that ever lived.
@marinhrabric6162
@marinhrabric6162 Жыл бұрын
great album, just as good as the previous albums. one of my favourites. and i have to say this channel is doing wonders with these documentaries.
@fenderstratocastertelecast8479
@fenderstratocastertelecast8479 Жыл бұрын
The drama lineup is brilliant and as once said by Alan white... Has a lot of credibility And i love It!!!
@afargreencountry6324
@afargreencountry6324 Жыл бұрын
Big 70’s Yes fan. Yes at Wembley gigs were amazing. I was at school and my friends had a good laugh at Buggles joining Yes. From day one I loved the Drama album and still do. Glad none of the post-Tormato demo stuff made it to the following Yes album. Tormato was great although it is a bit thin sounding. That’s my 2 pennies worth. 🙂
@johnreed9435
@johnreed9435 Жыл бұрын
Was 16 when this came out and remember it well. I even bought on the old Columbia Records 10 for $1 deal. I simply love the album and now this documentary too. Thank you!
@eyesoftheworld362
@eyesoftheworld362 Жыл бұрын
Loved Drama and both tours. Go Through This and Fly From Here were wonderful surprises on their first tour. Squire and Howe stepped up with more harmonies with Squire assisting Horn on lead. Loved Horn on all the classics, especially And You And I.
@chazblitz
@chazblitz Жыл бұрын
This album has always been my favorite with Relayer a close second.
@progessiverockstories
@progessiverockstories Жыл бұрын
Several people here have said this. With myself included. They go hand in hand.
@nelmquist
@nelmquist Жыл бұрын
IMHO: 1. Fragile 2. Relayer 3. The Yes Album 4. Close to the Edge 5. Drama 6. 90125 7. Tormato 8... everything else drops off from here for me with a few bright spots (Wonderous Stories, Shoot High Aim Low...
@dr91262
@dr91262 Жыл бұрын
i was also at that show at Notre Dame for the Drama Tour. I was in Heaven! All were seated and i walked up the aisle to take awesome shots of Chris and the group! Big moment in my life! They were great! i had no problem with Trevor singing lead, it matched the 80s Drama scene for me.
@JohnHancotte
@JohnHancotte Жыл бұрын
Terrific use of the non-album demos and other historic bits. Your attention to detail makes for an ideal recounting of the this historical album. I remember being turned off by the lack of Jon and Rick. My buds had the album and I was converted by their enthusiasm for this mainly uptempo and rocking album. Too bad they didn't make a true follow up, but then the lineup was always in a state of flux.
@Kenneth_Fishing
@Kenneth_Fishing Жыл бұрын
Part of why the album is so good is because Chris and Howe were given the reigns and were able to do whatever they wanted. They are full of ideas and energy
@autk
@autk 5 ай бұрын
Indeed!!
@joshcreasey
@joshcreasey Жыл бұрын
You did more than an incredible job with this doc. I love the Drama album. Great job with this!
@chrisjanisch330
@chrisjanisch330 Жыл бұрын
Long time Yes fan here as many are, with my first show being Relayer with Pat Moraz. Fortunately I had purchased the record and gotten quite used to it before the show. Like many I was skeptical going into it, but as usual, Yes delivered. Horn did a great job with Anderson’s vocal parts, but didn’t try to sound like Jon which was really refreshing. The band was tight, and the new material was solid and delivered perfectly. Overall a great record with solid songs and what I really like is that it’s its own record. They didn’t try to recreate classic Yes, instead they wrote and performed songs that fit the lineup and the times in which it was released. This record is a solid 10+
@rockingtr1
@rockingtr1 Жыл бұрын
I will never forget a very long power outage at a Chicago show that was met by much booing, mostly directed at Geoff's computer screen, eerily still glowing. Great to see that program art again. I concur this is "very metal" for Yes as I have claimed for years. Now ya'all go watch the Tempus Fugit video and check out the old overhead lights from Awaken disassembled as triangles.
@arthurbristol1611
@arthurbristol1611 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the hours, days and weeks it took to create this documentary. Yes was always a deep dive for a young listener, and Drama was just as demanding and rewarding as it's predecessors. You've illuminated the process and psychology of Drama's creation and the band's internal reaction in a historical context. A beautiful accomplishment, and worthy of accolades. To a community who love Yes as individuals, and Yes as an evolving collective, this KZfaq post delivers a 33 minute goldmine.
@leddygee1896
@leddygee1896 Жыл бұрын
Drama is my favorite album by far, Not to say any of their other albums Are bad, they just seemed to hit the Sweet spot in their creativity. thanks for showing some background details of this record. It was fantastic!!
@LoneLee2022
@LoneLee2022 Жыл бұрын
It's a brilliant album.
@skarminuk0781
@skarminuk0781 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE THESE DOCUMENTARY, IS VERY GOOD, IMPECCABLE AND HIGHT QUIALITY INFORMATION I SURPRISED IT, THE FOTOGRAPHY IS INDEDIBLE I WOULD GIVE 1000 LIKES
@marksaxon
@marksaxon Жыл бұрын
Great video! One of my favorite Yes albums. I don't care if Jon isn't on it. It had a fresh sound and memorable songs I still listen to today. Can't remember the last time I listened to Tormato. Lol.
@julienthomas8321
@julienthomas8321 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, this is a brilliant insight and it does much justice to this criminally underrated album. Your documentaries are awesome, please keep up the good stuff, many thanks in advance ! Best wishes from France.
@burke9497
@burke9497 Жыл бұрын
Hey brother. Can’t wait to watch this one. I bought this album the day it was released, which happened to be the day I left home for college. Also saw yes on this tour in Pittsburgh. It’s a special recording for me. Thank you for your great videos!
@mjc1970
@mjc1970 4 ай бұрын
I'm baffled... and when I say baffled, I truly can't fathom why any Yes album would be disregarded... their collective artistry surpasses mere music; it's akin to finding brilliance in every nail clipping from their little finger compared to anything else that currently goes around. Just rejoice we have all these albums... yes?
@bizzynomo6624
@bizzynomo6624 Жыл бұрын
Drama is one of my favorite YES LP's. I was amazed how seamlessly the Buggles integrated into the YES sound. I get why some fans rejected this line up and dismissed the LP but I think it holds up very well in the context of their body of work.
@davelanciani-dimaensionx
@davelanciani-dimaensionx Жыл бұрын
I love the Drama album. It sounds like Steve Howe finally learned how to get a decent, gritty rock tone from his guitar, like he started using an overdrive pedal, and it sounds great.
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this one. 'Drama' was my first Yes record and it still ranks among their best albums in my book. I knew there was a lot of music written before and after the 'Drama' sessions, but I was unfamiliar with the original demos, except for some of the stuff they recorded with JP.
@charlesnolan7602
@charlesnolan7602 Жыл бұрын
I attended 2 DRAMA shows in Philadelphia, September and October, 1980. The Drama " in the Round" staged shows that I attended were absolutely incendiary, high-art, with a fabulous intro and outro Alan White drum riser at the beginning and ending of " Machine Messiah." It was easliy a 20 foot high ascent from the main circulating stage, with every spot light in the Spectrum arena hitting Alan 's kit, as he rotated counterclockwise to the main stage!
@eyesoftheworld362
@eyesoftheworld362 Жыл бұрын
Was at all of those shows at the Spectrum and got backstage both years. Downes endeared himself to Yes’ U.S. home base by wearing a Phillies jersey with a Fanatic doll on one of his keyboard tops, unlike Wakeman who’s keyboards were topped with bottles of Heineken before he got sober :)
@starwarsunfiltered7848
@starwarsunfiltered7848 Жыл бұрын
As a longtime Yes fan of nearly 25 years, you knocked this out of the park. (I'll forgive the negative mention of "Run With The Fox", which is a perennial Christmas favorite.) Just days after discovering Yes via 90125 on the week of my 18th birthday, I almost nonchalantly found a cassette of Drama for 99 cents at my local Wherehouse. My first listen was permanently imprinted into my consciousness, and through that summer and beyond the album became not only one of my top favorites of all time, but one of the catalysts that propelled me into delving into more of Yes for these last three decades as I scoured for every record, video and boxed set and saw the band live fifteen times since 1998. It's been very vindicating to see not only love for Drama slowly bubble up through the years, but also magical and surreal that Geoff would rejoin for these last 11 years and that the album would eventually be played in its entirety in 2016. I still can't quite believe it.
@daveycretin664
@daveycretin664 Жыл бұрын
Engaging, exciting, excellent, and exquisite. Another extraordinary entry into your unique and unequivocal palatial prog programming pantheon. Three cheers to you! Greetings from Noo Yawk, ova heyah!! Prog On!!! 🎸 🎹 🥁 🎤
@progessiverockstories
@progessiverockstories Жыл бұрын
I am in awe, Sir, at your affecting and articulate alliteration 🤓
@daveycretin664
@daveycretin664 Жыл бұрын
@@progessiverockstories ~ ¡Muchas Gracias, Señor! Murray Christmas 🎄, Happy Chanukah, Groovy Kwanza & a Fun-Filled Festivus to you and yours! 🤘😇🤘
@tonysienzant6717
@tonysienzant6717 Жыл бұрын
I've always felt that the "TORMATO" album was a much better album than "DRAMA." I loved ALL the tracks on it, especially the ones dismissed by the narrator of this video. To me, "TORMATO" was a re-invigorated YES, with catchy & clever songs, often pared down in time-length. It is finely recorded & beautifully sounding in stark contrast to the Punk movement at the time. It is highly enjoyable from start to finish & remains one of my all-time favorites of theirs, alongside "CLOSE TO THE EDGE" & "FRAGILE" & some of their earlier albums which first put them on the map, pre-Rick Wakeman.
@skinner5334
@skinner5334 Жыл бұрын
Top notch record. Absolutely some of the best drum sounds I’ve ever heard. Run with the fox is a classic Christmas/ holiday track- warms my heart every year like clockwork and it arguably gets Yes the most “mainstream” listens in the catalog. It sneaks into unsuspecting ears- you can’t beat that!
@joebill3400
@joebill3400 Жыл бұрын
So rich with precious information, so well written, wonderfully documented, so interesting...Outstanding. Congratulations and thank you so much for sharing.
@progessiverockstories
@progessiverockstories Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate!
@joebill3400
@joebill3400 Жыл бұрын
@@progessiverockstories thank YOU !
@natema5927
@natema5927 Жыл бұрын
Great video! It took a few listens for Drama to grow on me, but nowadays it’s one of my favorites
@LoneLee2022
@LoneLee2022 Жыл бұрын
Oh for sure..................
@Latexhandske
@Latexhandske Жыл бұрын
Bloody fantasic ❤
@Kenneth_Fishing
@Kenneth_Fishing Жыл бұрын
The intro to this video was pretty cool btw
@progessiverockstories
@progessiverockstories Жыл бұрын
I make the intro before I write a word of the script. It gives me some inspiration and focus on the long slog that then follows... I agree it’s shit-hot but then you can’t fail with that incredible ‘metal’ logo and that guitar noise!
@richardmorgan1588
@richardmorgan1588 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for digging up and so marvelously presenting us this wonderful window into the band that was the introduction of the very concept of “progressive rock” to myself and … dare I say… most others! I’d love to get my hands on that album “Golden Age”. Most of that was new to me and I’ve been a Yes fan since I bought Fragile the year it came out which was one of the first rock albums I ever bought! These kinds of videos really enrich me! Please know you are appreciated and we would love to see more!
@craigfazekas3923
@craigfazekas3923 Жыл бұрын
Out of all of Steve Howe's lead/solo guitar work in Yes ? The outro to Run to The Light is among my very favorites. It has a almost etherial sound to it- the sound that a beautiful sunset would make, if it could..... 🚬😎
@progessiverockstories
@progessiverockstories Жыл бұрын
Whilst making this doc it was Howe’s playing on ‘I am a camera’ that I was most impressed by.
@craigfazekas3923
@craigfazekas3923 Жыл бұрын
@@progessiverockstories I was fortunate enough to see Steve solo twice. Both were super memories. The 1st time was Halloween night at the TLA in Philly, 2000. While walking up & down South St. prior to the gig ? I hear live KISS music, and growing louder as I walked along. Yup, unmistakenly, are blasting the sounds of the song 'Got to Choose'. There was a KISS tribute band playing a free show outdoors on Halloween night. They focused on all the early material- Deuce, Strutter, Parasite, Cold Gin, ect. What a trip.... And the second Steve Howe gig I saw was at a Yacht Club in Belmar, NJ- with an extremely noisy & rude crowd. Steve was clearly miffed as well- he politely asked the crowd why they came if they weren't going to listen. Yeah. Prior to that show ? I'd just bought the King Crimson CD of the entire Asbury Park show in '74. Asbury Park was near Belmar, so I went to the original Casino where KC played, and listened with my eyes closed with headphones on at full volume- just soaking it in & knowing I was going to see Mr. Howe immediately after. It was great. I was wasted on painkillers too- being that I was an addict at the time. Fun ? You bet.... I also saw Joe Walsh at The Stone Pony in Asbury Park too- 10 years prior. And stayed at The Empress that night, knowing that Crimson stayed there when they played there in '74. Btw- what is Fred Flintstone's fave rock band ? Of course; King Crimstone..... Sorry. 🚬😎
@monicadonnelly4991
@monicadonnelly4991 Жыл бұрын
@@craigfazekas3923❤❤❤
@ronthompson95
@ronthompson95 Жыл бұрын
Hard to imagine that the iconic Yes singer Jon Anderson was not on this record and yet this is one of the most classic Yes albums. Sonically amazing.
@nelmquist
@nelmquist Жыл бұрын
I had always thought Jon Anderson was the weak link in Yes. His vocals can sound a bit weak or strained at times and his writing can be downright incomprehensible. But then I look and see brilliance from him too. I love listening to him interview. I suspect he may have been the central member of the Yes lineup that spurred "drama" amongst the band. Didn't I read one time that they called him the little Napolean?
@scottlewis1530
@scottlewis1530 Жыл бұрын
The Drama tour was my very first concert! Live at Madison Square Garden. So naturally I've always like this album. I think it's also one of Roger Dean's best cover designs.
@normanmacfarlane6724
@normanmacfarlane6724 Жыл бұрын
I love your podcasts I really love Prog music Tales from Topographic Oceans my favourite album This is great stuff Thank you
@robtymec2045
@robtymec2045 10 ай бұрын
If I had any real complaint about Drama, it would be that I wish it had a few more tracks on it. It was an interesting transitional album that did some really great experimentation. I really like it. Each track is quite enjoyable. Even if it is weird not to hear Jon's voice on it.
@colinburroughs9871
@colinburroughs9871 Жыл бұрын
Drama is just a weird thing that happened that bridges so many loose ends in Yes lore together it's very unique and underrated. Has anyone else noticed that Does it Really Happen and It Can Happen have all kinds of overlapping elements including subtle bits of synth texture in the background?
@progessiverockstories
@progessiverockstories Жыл бұрын
Certainly, I am curious as to what other parts of Yes songs he had a direct influence on?
@gr8dane626
@gr8dane626 Жыл бұрын
Drama pretty much marked the end of Yes. That said... I fucking LOVE Drama.
@gr8dane626
@gr8dane626 Жыл бұрын
@@eyesoftheworld362 yeah... not for me. Again, I LOVED Drama. But it is not a "YES" album for me.
@colinburroughs9871
@colinburroughs9871 Жыл бұрын
@@gr8dane626 It's funny right? And I'm certain my perspective is different because I didn't live through this (my first gig was the Talk tour as a kid). I see Talk as the end of the band being a legitimate risk taking endeavor making up for the attempted suicide that was Union. Subsequent Talk they sort of went into legacy mode, even though a few of those newer-ish tracks are pretty good.
@gr8dane626
@gr8dane626 Жыл бұрын
@@eyesoftheworld362 Of course it can be answered. I just answered it. I didn't think I had to add that it was just my opinion. So, IMHO Yes stops at Tormato. They have no great songs or albums after that. And FWIW I can't stand Davison. He does not do it for me. No one but Anderson does. David came close. Again... just my opinion!
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