Progressive Lenses For The Computer. What You Need To Know About Task Specific Glasses

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Ah, the dreaded time of wearing progressives all the time, and all of the sacrifices they come with has arrived! But, did you know you don't really have to make all of those sacrifices all of the time? Not only can you get a lens that fits the majority of your needs more readily, but you can get a lens designed for specific tasks to really amp up the usability!
We hear about those problematic progressives all the time. From the basic "I feel like I'm stepping up everywhere I walk" to "I just can't use them comfortably" I know a lot of tricks of the trade to reduce and alleviate those, but there are almost always trade-offs. The real trick is knowing when and what to trade off to create the right lenses, and often that can mean multiple pairs, sacrificing certain things in each pair!
Now, let's get into what all of that really means! Watch the video for the details!!
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@joahnnacombs9594 Жыл бұрын

Wow ! 7 pairs of glasses in the last 5 years none seemed to work for computer use; noone took the time to educate me like you just did. It all make sense now. Thank you !!!

@ThatGlassesGuy03 Жыл бұрын

Hey even I goof and forget sometimes. Then I send them to this video 😂. Glad it helped you out!! 🥂

@Diopterman 4 жыл бұрын

Nice overview, informative but concise! Two thumbs up!

@ThatGlassesGuy03 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 😁

@isabellam6447 2 жыл бұрын

Clear and helpful video, I am thinking about ordering computer glasses, I am currently wearing progresive glasses and this video explained the difference. Thanks!!!

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

Glad this helped, and thank you for watching!!! 😁

@seattleintone 3 жыл бұрын

Workstation glasses are life savers for my daily routine. At the computer, two monitors, and I read a lot digitally as well as hardcopy. Worth every penny

@ThatGlassesGuy03 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely life changing isn't it?! I don't see how people do without!

@2007vwbeetle Ай бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03if after cataract surgery in the left eye I have 20/20 PL but right eye is sph -1.00 cyl -1.25 axis 55. Add is +2.50. Do I need glasses except for reading? Would I be better off with single vision and reading glasses or just go with progressive glasses?

@jthj 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the excellent explanation on how these work!

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! 🙂

@ramborums 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative and useful video. I have been using one progressive for all and it's literally been a pain in the neck. Now I understand that I need another one for my computer use. Thank you.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

It's such an improvement! You're gonna love it!

@mrw6198 3 жыл бұрын

Thankyou for the suggestion of a lined bifocal as an alternative to an office type progressive. That could be just what I am looking for as a pair of computer glasses.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! It's amazing how many overlook that as an option. Lined bifocals still have their place, especially when wide open fields of view are needed! 😁

@ms_taree7335 3 жыл бұрын

This video was super helpful. I didn't really get a lot of time with my new doctor and new glasses so thanks for this video. I think I definitely want a pair of computer glasses now. l I have a larger monitor right now and I feel like I must look like a bird swinging my head all around to see the mid point sweet spot. lol

@ThatGlassesGuy03 3 жыл бұрын

Glad this helped!! Yup, general progressives at a computer can definitely have you pulling an ostrich 🤣.

@bobprice6274 3 жыл бұрын

One with the online bargain Ben’s get the progressive right is by doing 30% far 30% mid and 30% near. You have actually restored my faith in opticians. I can see that if I work with an optician that cares and works with me to put together a lands is based on my prescription that will work for me for what I need them for, that would be a better solution than the generic online solutions that work in general. I’ve spent too much money this time around I’m going to have to live with the general classes I got at the bargain bin online. But next time around I’ve learned from this experience to be better informed on progressive lenses and that it can be a great solution above and beyond the generic solutions online thank you for your responses.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 3 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome 😁 happy to have helped! Sad that it was late, but we've all gotta learn somewhere 🙂

@timturner9315 9 ай бұрын

What were they before? I don't think they normally allow much for medium and near

@user-fd1hr4zn6d 8 ай бұрын

excellent video!

@ThatGlassesGuy03 8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@mehwhatevah 2 жыл бұрын

Shamir Workspace are the best progressives I've ever worn. Including regular wear progressives that are not for office work.

@executivelifehacks6747 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting. At -2.25 I note that the reading portion of the progressives are as corrected for distance as they can be. The intermediate and even the reading is acceptable for walking around the office and computer work. I am thinking keep the lower reading portion as is, and increase the upper 2/3 minimally to create the widest viewing angle, keep a pair at home at the computer and at work. Accept that I will have some blur at the end of a long corridor but see everything well up to a powerpoint presentation. Hopefully I can have that without a line? I want to get a system that will cover me now as an early presbyope through to my 60s and beyond. The progressives I have as a general "around the house" or "out and about" work well, but not for the ~40" 4k monitors I use.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

We do this pretty foten with progressives for wearers over a 2.00 add. Sometimes the task specific PALs aren't up to the task as their algorithms just aren't as advanced (to keep cost lower). What I've found is the siko surmount with distance power bumped a half to a full diopter and that same power removed from the add is perhaps one of the best computer pairs in existence (though I do need to experiment more with the DAL lenses, as my initial attempts with those have been HIGHLY succesful). This affectively reduces your far range a little, widens the corridor some, and still provides full near power in a lens that is recorded to already have the widest zones of any lens availble today (but a bit wonky to get use to for wearers of other PALs due to the way the corridor controls distortion)

@executivelifehacks6747 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 I see. Thank you. It's either progressives as you suggest, some sort of (seamless) bifocal, or an intermediate single vision to kick the problem down the road a couple years before requiring one of the above. Are you going to do a video on the DAL?

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

@@executivelifehacks6747 I should.. I need to get one made up for myself plus a made up power to show the design though. Something off the wall like my progressive video that really shows how a corridor works and not the junk marketing tactics companies use of a -2 sph +1 Add lens to make them all look huge and magnificent 🙄

@executivelifehacks6747 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 Yes. That content is great. I like how you dive into the reality of the solutions.

@SWLinPHX 2 жыл бұрын

Can you get no-line bifocals/progressives with just far and intermediate (but no near vision)? I don't need glasses for near, just far (TV & driving) and intermediate (laptop/desktop computer).

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, several ways to get that end result that all work great 🙂. Shoot me an email, ild be happy to discuss and make you a custom set of lenses for your needs 😎. - matt@thatglassesguy.net

@burtonm3220 2 жыл бұрын

never had progressives. just got new rx with add of +1.00. can i get away with having my regular single vision glasses and a pair of reading glasses (i.e. my new rx with the add of +1.00) for use when working? or would it be better to get a pair of workstation progressives? I am shying away from using progressives all day because I feel like I just don't need the add of +1.00 when I'm not reading/working. any help appreciated. love love love your explanations in your videos, thanks for them

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

at +1.00 you're still totally on the "happy" area of the +1.00 SV (over your daily RX) vs doing a specific workstation lens at this time. Your eyes can still handle the extra power needed for fine near work, and will just take the strain off at the screen. I have a +0.75 and a +1.00 set over my normal RX at my work bench and my home respectively (go figure I sit that much nearer my work at home)

@joebloggs4191 Жыл бұрын

I just got some Zeiss Smartlife 1.6 Individual progressive in some rimless frames and have to say they work so much better on the computer than my last progressive which were from a UK high street chain opticians. I can do more work on the computer (24" screen) without needing to swap to dedicated computer glasses, in actual fact I have not had to swap them since I got them. Only thing is for distance sometimes when turning your head left or right get a slight wavy sensation, sometimes it's noticeable and at other times not. Had them now about 4 days, maybe a few more days are needed to get used to them or is there some other issue?

@ThatGlassesGuy03 Жыл бұрын

Just a matter of getting use to the dynamics of that particular lens, especially when optimized for arms length field it'll give that sensation to some degree, but man oh man is it so worth the tradeoff of being able to tackle most all things well in one pair 😁. If anything it could be fit just a smidgen high, but dropping it would reduce the arms length utility a bit. It's both a fitting and design choice coming in to play for your use case 😁, ild say you found a helluva optician 😁

@joebloggs4191 Жыл бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 Thanks for the reply! I was told these Zeiss lenses came in three types one for general all round use, another with focus on the near distance i.e. for reading and another with emphasis for use with computers which is what I got.

@KGKraetzerMedia 2 жыл бұрын

Hi I cover college football games during games I'm watching game from press box often top of an 8 story building. Then typing notes into mobile phone for reports. Just got new progressives that make it easier to read player numbers, but I'm taking off the glasses to type and proof read. Find when reading detail off laptop screen I'm raising my nose and trying to read from bottom 10% of lenses. Any suggestions? Thanks Ken

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

A different lens design. Bad progressive design selection for your needs. I suspect they opted for a distance priority lens to open the field up for you, but this will noticeably pinch down and push down the near field with almost no intermediate zone in most progressives. In your specific use case I would recommend something a little different entirely for the press box, whether that's a digital add lens or a lined bifocal so you can keep the crisp and wide distance zone and still have good large near zone, or a custom progressive with specific fields is up to you and/or your optician 🙂

@spydersweb2 Жыл бұрын

I got a pair of progressives for driving. The closeup / reading distance part is what is confounding to me. I don't really need that closeup distance to drive and would prefer that the bottom portion be taken up by the intermediate distance focus. Having the intermediate / computer distance would serve me better since besides having far distance to see the road, I only need to view the interior of the car and to be able to see my instrument panel. So I asked my optician about it and he told me it was impossible, that the lens calculations would not allow this. So I then asked, what about task vision or dual focus progressives? My distance vision is roughly +2 and my add is +1.5, so in my non-optician way of thinking, isn't it conceivable for someone to also have intermediate vision of +2 and reading of +1.5? would this theoretically work for me? My optician gives me a definite no. What is your opinion?

@ThatGlassesGuy03 Жыл бұрын

There are driving specific progressives that are designed to prioritize Distance and arms length with a V or modified T shape channel depending on the brand. That doesn’t mean everyone has access to them but they exist. As for the task specific, your powers aren’t correct for the breakdown but those absolutely exist as well (distance +2 intermediate 2.75 near 3.50 very roughly based on the 1.5 add.). These can be crafted custom from any multi focal style lens or a progressive that is designed specifically for the office or computer only use

@mukhtaranbibi7115 2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@markferwerda7968 2 жыл бұрын

I have progressives on order; so afraid the blurry dead space left and right is going to drive me nuts and I wish I had just ordered a distance pair and a reading pair. But maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

With that attitude I can 100% guarantee you won't be happy. You will find it, you will be upset, it will drive you mad. Understand that progressives are a compromise to be able to function decently well in one pair of glasses. This video is for deeper in the rabbit hole about optimizing those additional pairs. Check this one out to be better prepared as a first time wearer :) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r8iladh3nuCak5s.html

@SinDog3 2 жыл бұрын

i am getting glasses for the first time and need progressives. What are the best frame types ? Adjustable nose bridge or not.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

You should worry more about the proper fit and let your optician guide you on frame and lens choice for your needs and frame chosen. Adjustable pads vs non is not the metric you need to be worried about at all :) For more on first progressives and what you've got coming check out this video : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r8iladh3nuCak5s.html 😁 hope this helps some while you're searching!

@user-qq9gr1co2s 5 ай бұрын

My optician suggesting me to have one pair of Essilor Varilux XR for normal use and a Computer lens as a second pair. Since this is my first time with a progressive lens, i am not sure whether it uncomfortable to switch often between Standard and computer lens ? Also, will you advice to add computer lens or rather bifocal lens with my standard varilux pair.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 5 ай бұрын

Always advisable for someone with more than a few hours a day at a computer. Especially with the pinched intermediate zone of the XR lens series. This won’t cause you any comfort issues switching between the two, but I can recommend someone that makes a pretty good set of glasses if Yould rather try something else 😎

@MarksShrimpTanks 2 жыл бұрын

I bought 600 buck progressives last week for computer work and they are horrific to use. I went to a local gas station and bought 2 pairs of cheap glass at 12 buck in total, I test each eye with different strength's using writing on a shelf until I got perfect lenses for each eye.. I then went home and popped the lenses out and matched the lenses to one pair for perfect computer vision.... 600 Vs 12 bucks.. real world testing.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

That's the direction I lean 😎, I almost always fit an SV until the range and utility isn't there (usually tested with proper trial lenses at the correct rx, and some nicer lens tech than cheap readers, but st the end of the day the idea is the same). Though, I'm curious which lens you got for your computer progressive, most people do like those pretty well even if it is ny last choice... unless it's just a run of the mill everyday progressive and not something thay was properly tuned for your needs.

@bikassolanki8105 2 жыл бұрын

I couldn't understand. Someone Please simplify and tell me. which type is better for computer work (progressive)?

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

If you didn't understand this, explain your needs to your optician. That's the primary point of this video, to arm you with some knowledge so you can be better assisted and get a better end result. I discussed 3 specialty types of lenses for this purpose here and each have their own pros and cons. A good optician will match the one best suited to your needs 🙂 but the important take away is.. it is NOT the one you're wearing all day long, it is a seperate pair.

@MichelleHrino 7 ай бұрын

I knew I remembered seeing an article about customizing progressive lens the last time I had to get eyeglasses. I hate getting new glasses because I am never happy with them. I go to a particular optician to get my eyeglasses, and this checkup I went to a dr/provider un his office so if there are any issues, they have to work it out. I asked the doctor & the optician, can I have a pair of progressives where the intermediate corridor is larger, and the reading and distance /driving smaller and was told not really. I can get progressives like I have know, that I hate, neck stain, headaches plus another pair for the computer, but if I have to get up at work, which I do a lot, I have to switch the pairs. Ugh! I saw your video I see it is possible to tweak the lens for all 3 , so now I am confused as to why I cant try these? The dr said she tweaked my prescription which should alleviate some of my issue and if not I can get those task glasses. I cant drive out to where you are unfortunately. What do I need to ask for? I know am about a 7 distance and 1.5 for reading.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 7 ай бұрын

It’s all in knowing how lenses are made and how to manipulate parameters. Most are using big name lenses and they don’t offer this level of detail and control. I do remote fittings all the time if you ever wanna give it a shot that way, just finished setting up my website for RX ordering as well using the same lenses I use in store with all of my own tweaks and customizations, and notes on use like yours are always accounted for 😎. Still just me over here filling every order 😌

@MichelleHrino 7 ай бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 I think I just became more confused. Do you make your own lens in a lab ? As opposed to most others sending them out? I would consider doing remote, but this time I said I am getting my exam and my eyeglasses in the same place to avoid the "you didnt get them filled here issue" I really wanted to know that it is possible to have a lens made with a larger intermediate area and still be able to drive with them. And to be able to ask for this. I actually pulled out my first progresive lens glasses. They were 2 pairs / 6 yrs ago.They arent as strong of course & the frame was quite more narrow. I was dissueded from narrow frames my last 2 pairs due to "my needs" yet I am seeing a heck of a lot better with these old suckers! Including driving. No need to lift my chin all day at work. So what gives with that? TY for your reply

@AcCeSsDeNiEd65 Жыл бұрын

I just got my progressives today. They seem really bad for computer work. The bigger the monitor, the worse it is. Find my head moving all over the place to focus. Looking at the upper portions of the monitor, I have to tilt my head really high. Though this pair seems to be good when driving. I can see the road ahead and my GPS maps on my car's head unit.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 Жыл бұрын

Higher add powers and distance priority designs make the problem worse, but in general that's pretty normal for progressive use. A set of lenses designed specifically doe the computer only changes everything 😁

@AcCeSsDeNiEd65 Жыл бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 Thanks for the info. I'm brand new to progressives. I just ordered the "zeiss office lens". Should get it in 10 days. Hope everything works out.

@donlessnau3983 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent explanation. And now I know why I hated my progressive lens. I just returned my progressive lenses. They were horrible. The viewing fields for the middle and bottom were not very tall and very narrow...not at all as wide as I expected or in my line bifocals. I had to constantly move my head to read a sentence or see my dashboard clearly and keep all the words sharp and clear. Pain in the a**. I went back to my line bifocals.

@eun-solkim7080 10 ай бұрын

How is the office lens limited to a certain distance? Is it because the add power is higher?

@ThatGlassesGuy03 10 ай бұрын

Sort of. Basically the add power is distributed throughout the lens differently such that there is no area with 0 add power. This limits focal distance.

@markgaric5358 Жыл бұрын

Is there a way to have the top part for long distance and the entire bottom part just for computer without any section for reading? I just need to see far and a computer, but the current progressives make it hard to find the sweet spot for the compmuter.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 Жыл бұрын

I know that sounds like a great idea, but I promise you it’s not. You would have the worst neck ache ever form having to crane your head back so far. A much better alternative is just a pair at the computer desk built for that job. Alternative a lined bifocal or digital segment could be set high enough to make your proposed ideal relatively comfortable, but still not as good. (All of this does depend on the actual prescription and add power to some degree as well)

@emont Жыл бұрын

Most of comments are related to conclude we need two types of glasses, for general usage (tv watch and street walk) and workstation glasses, I tried to ask to ChatGPT what are the best brands but from your perspective, what are the best progressive lenses for general daily usage and what the most better brand for workstation glasses? (in my case the best suggestion is to buy the same frame for both glasses)

@ThatGlassesGuy03 Жыл бұрын

On the frame, make sure they’re marked so you don’t mix them up. There’s a host of ways to do that. As for the lenses. There is no “best”. What works for some doesn’t work do others and some lenses handle certain parameters better than others. It will be different for every set of parameters 😌

@emont Жыл бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 Varilux fits well with your description about workstation lenses and Premium Freeform Progressive from Hoya are recommended for general purposes ... (my 2 cents)

@ThatGlassesGuy03 Жыл бұрын

Varilux makes a book full of lenses. So does Hoya. Brand means nothing here. Progressive channel and how they each choose to handle and displace astigmatic error to create the best result for each wearer is how you get best. Not a name. I don’t even use varilux or Hoya. FYI, technologically they’re the bottom of the barrel today.

@junegloom6024 2 жыл бұрын

I've been wearing progressives for years now and I've gotten used to taking them off when I need to read something. Would a single vision lens that covers the area of my desktop (i.e., from about 16-40") be a good solution for me? What would I gain from a bifocal?

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

That's actually a lot to unpack. Depending on your age and required add power it might not even be possible to cover that 16-40" range with just a single power, which is where a bifocal of some sort would be advantageous. I would assume your correction in your glasses for distance is somewhere in the -2 to -4 range based on what you've been doing. As far as what a good solution is, I don't have nearly enough to go on here, and would require a more in depth conversation. Happy to work with you and make you lenses if you wish, but this is definitely a conversation to have with your optician so all of your needs can be met 😁

@junegloom6024 2 жыл бұрын

>it might not even be possible to cover that 16-40" range with just a single power That's what I was afraid of. I'm 55 BTW. >this is definitely a conversation to have with your optician Yeah, I just had my eye exam the other day, but when I told the optician that I couldn't afford $600+ for progressive lenses and would probably have to buy online she more or less lost interest in me, so we didn't discuss any of this. Now I'm left to figure it out on my own. I did briefly discuss it with the optometrist, who gave me Rx for computer PAL and computer bifocals. I'm trying to figure out re: computer bifocals: what portion of the 16-40" range would the D cover and what portion would the rest of the lens cover? Computer Multifocal Rx: SPH -3.00 CYL -0.50 AXIS 167 ADD +1.00 SPH -3.00 CYL -0.25 AXIS 090 ADD +1.00 PAL Rx: SPH -4.25 CYL -0.50 AXIS 167 ADD +2.25 SPH -4.25 CYL -0.25 AXIS 090 ADD +2.25

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

@June Gloom well that's a shame. FWIW, Costco has great glasses for the money on a budget, and typically has very well trained opticians due to their pay scale and cert requirements. At any rate, with a 2.25 add power and at 55, your eyes have pretty minimal ability to accommodate remaining and as such you rely on the lens to do the bulk of the work for anything from About 40" and closer. A lined bifocal specifically for the computer is a good (relatively) inexpensive option there. If you opted for single vision distance and removing your glasses for near is definitely workable. Your eye (based on powers provided) will naturally be in focus at a ~8" reading distance. In this way you could also utilize a really narrow frame that you can easily look under to make a faux bifocal 😏 one of my old tricks for those on a budget with a prescription like yours.... though, that was more 2006-2010 era when slim frames were easy to come by! Hopefully this gives you a better sense of direction as you proceed 😁

@junegloom6024 2 жыл бұрын

That's funny: the other optician also (reluctantly) recommended Costco, although she condescendingly added that their technology was 15 years out of date. Thanks for the info!

@johnfr2389 5 ай бұрын

How does the Zenni "Near-Range" office progressive compare to that Zeiss you're showing here? Have you ever tested it?

@ThatGlassesGuy03 5 ай бұрын

I have not, however, almost across the board these are just very basic designs of degressive lenses. (Mentally progressive works but it’s incorrect for the way they’re designed). Honestly a good ole modified rx in a lined bifocal is really really really hard to be best here

@johnfr2389 5 ай бұрын

Are you saying that all degressive lenses are so basic to design that Zenni "Near-Range" or Zeiss office lenses will basically perform the same? Or should I expect a significant improvement (in what way?) going with Zeiss compared to Zenni for that type of lens?

@ThatGlassesGuy03 5 ай бұрын

@@johnfr2389 the difference comes to light in how they handle oblique cylinder and distortion. The Zeiss lenses are inherently more comfortable with higher powers and oblique cylinder, marginally. In terms of overall function, it’s essentially the same. Chevrolet vs lexus. Little smoother ride. Little higher tech. Both transportation.

@gailholmes9099 3 ай бұрын

I believe I have standard progressives. I like them allot. I work at a computer all day. The middle part is blurry.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 ай бұрын

Computer all day definitely deems a need for computer specific glasses. 🥂

@DezzieYT 2 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to make lenses that are distance and intermediate with very little near? I'd rather have good distance and intermediate then switch to readers to read.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! I use them regularly for myopic customers that basically have built in readers 😝. Seiko surmount is king of intermediate, zeiss offers a better distance priority but the intermediate is still squeezed down a pretty good bit. Pro tip: sunglass lens designs are GREAT here. They prioritize distance to intermediate with a sacrificed near zone 😁 master tip.. ask for reduced add in your distance glasses to help create a wider channel as well 😈

@DezzieYT 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 Thank you! I'm writing all this down to discuss at my next appointment.

@discerningacumen 2 жыл бұрын

It is convenience for me to have a test specific lenses like office lens: And I found that it is not that practical for me unless I'm sitting around before the laptop more than 5-6hours a day. The more convenient lens is the ultimate progressive lens which can solve the narrow corridor problem. There isn't. For me it is better to have a progressive lens for daily use. When I focus only on my work, like development of a game -> requires a office lens (but rarely used.)

@ThatGlassesGuy03 Жыл бұрын

I won’t disagree much there. Generally when w estuary discussing office lenses is around the 4-6 hours a day of computer use :)

@Reddylion 3 жыл бұрын

Nice , can you suggest good blue cut glasses.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 3 жыл бұрын

Blutech is one of the most widely available that blows away the competition :)

@Reddylion 3 жыл бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 nice

@designaids 3 ай бұрын

Kindly can you help to identify my lens type, How can I mark or identify the width of the corridor from mid to all the way down to the reading area to draw the same window as they show on the catalogue like to vack to back brackets here ) ( Or to put it another way, .. I doubt that I have been charged for wide corridor lens but actually they are ordinary narrow corridor,.. that is what mostly defined in catalogue or videos as wide reading field of view ... Just to be clear here I am not talking about length of corridor.. I did device a way, I wish I could share pics here .. by magnifying the fine net through the progressive lens and it will show the magnification according to the progression of the addition number, after drawing the outline on this progression I am able to get virtually the same curves ) ( but is it the right way to do it and challange the optician or the lens supplier?

@ThatGlassesGuy03 3 ай бұрын

First of all anyone selling you on a wider corridor… just walk out the door. Second. Power determines map as much as lens design. It could very well be you got a design that offers a wider zone at a specific portion of the lens (reading in this case) but the power increase pinched it right back down to be the same. Some shops actually have digital lens mappers but Ild say they’re far and few between, you’re not going to just look at a lens and draw your corridor (at least the average person can’t). Also of note any improvement in width of field will be marginal at best and maybe a millimeter or two if you’re lucky. Of course for the eye to perceive that is a notable increase, and that’s the rub, how our eyes actually perceive the lens design is what really matters, not so much the map of the design. The lens design can be verified by marks engraved into the lens if you want to verify the lens type you paid for is what was delivered that’s the way it will be checked. Not by an arbitrary marking of the corridor.

@designaids 3 ай бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 Thank you so much Yes I checked the engravings, but I wanted to go beyond to challenge the supplier :) .. my numb is spherical+1.5 with add +2, .. I had before ordinary progressive and I know how it behaves in terms of what field of view I get when I am reading which is almost 5 inch at the reading distance of 12 to 16inch, now I ordered digital free form wide corridor but the result is the same.. I was kind of forced to develop understanding of progressive lens and fittings as no one was able to make my glasses, PD error, height error, skew or other very basic errors, finally I did my own glasses So here I am and feel that I unnecessarily spend money on getting wide corridor lens when there is no change .. can I send you an email?

@timturner9315 9 ай бұрын

I wished I would have seen this video $320 ago. (plus insurance) I got my new progressives and complained that I had to bend my neck back to see my computer screens, for which I spend many hours on, so they sold me a fixed pair of computer glasses for an additional discounted $125.. These are pretty much useless because when I have them on and I can't look down and read my phone to answer it or text. I wondered why they didn't work with you for specific complaints and needs. 8u

@ThatGlassesGuy03 9 ай бұрын

It’s pretty common unfortunately. :/. But at least now you’re armed with a little more information on better alternatives :)

@timturner9315 9 ай бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 Well, I'm not sure of what I need, but it would have been nice to have a discussion with the people I'm entrusting my vision to, to better understand what options I had. I seem to have more than ample top vision and I believe it might be possible to sacrifice some of that for computer distance and reading distance.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 9 ай бұрын

@timturner9315 half the battle is knowing options exist for sure. Now it’s something you can use to open the discussion next time even if the optician doesn’t :)

@bobprice6274 3 жыл бұрын

I got some computer progressive glasses. My prescription is 2.5+ for the computer glasses I got 1.0

@ThatGlassesGuy03 3 жыл бұрын

That helps to widen the zone as well 😁

@Yumpunk 2 жыл бұрын

What brand of pen are you using?

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

Pilot vanishing point. I've since lost that exact one.... and it was my second VP. I've since stopped carrying those for that reason. Amazing pen, super easy to use (click able fountain pen)... but a little too forgettable and doesn't clip well enough.

@jorgemora1175 3 жыл бұрын

if you work 4-6 hours a day with wide monitors I suggest go for single reading lens maybe 1 diptre less than you normal power, your neck and head will be happy.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 3 жыл бұрын

Close but not quite. There are task specific progressive designs that still allow for full reading and some distance vision(from 5 to 12 feet of range depending on the chosen design and compromises), with really large fields at arms length. For multiple monitors and data entry we often end up with an executive lined bifocal, but rarely is the answer just a single vision lens with +1.00 diopter of power. Alternatively you can take an older inexpensive PAL and split the add between.. adding part of it to the distance and having effectively a full field intermediate range with near power. Lots of creative ways to make it work, but for most presbyopic wearers, a single pair of single vision won't do the job (multiple SV on the other hand, can, and I do it that way once in awhile... very rarely with a proper fit and other proper lens design choices :) )

@jorgemora1175 3 жыл бұрын

That Glasses Guy it works for me, I have +2.00 power for normal reading, but I use single reading lens +1.75 for long hours of computer work. I've never heard about executive lined bifocal, I'm gonna to lookup for information about it. 👍

@ThatGlassesGuy03 3 жыл бұрын

Unless your computer range is extremely close you would be better served by a +1... unless you have a need for a distance prescription you aren't aware of (latent hyperopia) very common. Essentially our eyes can accommodate and create the add on their own. So for example if you needed a +1.50 to see distance, your eyes can dial that in on their own and you can even see 20/20ish uncorrected. But it leaves little reserves for reading and computer. In this case a +1.75 for computer would be more comfortable. But in general a +1.25 is the power needed in an emmetrope to be able to see at the typical computer distance of around 31", whether that power comes from within the eye, its accommodation, or a lens in front of the eye is irrelevant :) . Some medical conditions can also alter this to some degree as well. The eye has plenty of accommodation power until we reach 40+ years old where it starts to become noticeable and problematic (and where progressives become helpful like this video is about) :) at which point, it steadily decreases further over the next 20 or so years until we have no accommodation left this is when you can see the occasional 2.75 or stronger add power on top of whatever required distance power is needed. Usually most will have had cataract surgery by this point and are already relying on external lenses via glasses for that add power 🙃.... hope that makes sense 😁

@johnfr2389 5 ай бұрын

My computer setup has LCD screens at 24 to 40 inches. Am I still good with computer lenses designed for up to 1m? Or am I stretching it too much?

@bobprice6274 3 жыл бұрын

My progressive lenses had such a small reading zone to make the useless. I ordered a bargain pair on line with what they call premium progressive and they are phenomenal!

@ThatGlassesGuy03 3 жыл бұрын

Opticians complain about online orders... all the while driving people there all on their own 🤣

@maiseydoodle 2 жыл бұрын

What online website did you get them from?

@bobprice6274 2 жыл бұрын

@@maiseydoodle EYEBUYDIRECT

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

Makes sense. Being an essilorluxottica company means their "premium progressive" is likely something older out of the varilux catalog from a few years ago.... that's not a bad thing. Honestly varilux was better 10 years ago than current in terms of flagship lenses 🤣... that Varilux X lens has some seriously wonky calculations and even more wack design features like a negative front side add power.... 😫

@johnfr2389 5 ай бұрын

Are there any reviews done that compare the Eyebuydirect and Zenni's lenses with the quality brands? I guess Zeiss is better, but by how much? As a customer, I'd like someone to show me numbers, why I should pay hundreds more.

@ninjalightning2631 3 жыл бұрын

Little Sun Flower

@bobprice6274 3 жыл бұрын

The premium progressive have a wide zone. They got it right

@ThatGlassesGuy03 3 жыл бұрын

Online is largely traditional soft designs. Way easier to get right than incorrect measurements for a top tier freeform compensated lens design. That is... a poorly fit basic lens will kick a poorly fit top tier lens ass every day of the week.

@jenniferpesina8927 2 жыл бұрын

I have a burning question...let's place in your mind the hour glass progressive...let's say the blank is a plus 5 with a 1.o add...my question is the gray areas out to the sides of the progressive zone that u are not looking thru... 1. could that area be ground down thinner to decrease the outward displacement bug eye magnification? 2. if the above is not an option...could the magnification in the gray sections continue with incremental decrease in power as you get closer to the edge of the lens? if the answer is no...why?

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, absolutely can be done, and we regularly do this for our hyperopic customers. Digital lenticulation is the process, and IOT is king of the algorithm. 🤴 👑

@freddieslaughter1107 Жыл бұрын

What is the difference between nikon, zeiss and varilux lenses

@ThatGlassesGuy03 Жыл бұрын

names and lens design technology. That's VERY broad. Equate this to asking something like "what's better, Chevy or Dodge." It's not the same for everyone.

@freddieslaughter1107 Жыл бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 Thank you, but one person who works at a Vision place said Varilux was the best.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 Жыл бұрын

Might wanna find a new optician. ;) one person at one place isn’t near enough for me to jump the candle. I worked with essilor, varilux, Nikon, Zeiss, and Hoya for years. None of them are anything I would just call “the best” especially considering they all make so many different designs and prioritize different things. It’s just branding. If you ask about a specific lens(e.g. Varilux X 4D), situation, and daily needs, then you can determine a best lens for that set of parameters, it’s almost never just one brand and never ever just one lens. Varilux is more marketing than lens technology, and IOT has been ahead of their designs for decades.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 Жыл бұрын

“If” big if. I were trying to jump a candle and just say one brand does anything better than others in very grossly generic terms (like Porsche makes the best sports cars!). Then I would hate off say it’s Leica vs Rodenstock to try to take that award. Neither of which are readily available in the US today.

@bpark10001 2 жыл бұрын

The "office" progressives are useless. You see that nice wide zone throughout. Then you discover that they start at 10 feet for distance, but they do not offer high adds such as 2.50. They only go up to 1.75. Without the higher add (& the 10 feet "starting distance", you in essence have a "single vision" lens set at 5 feet.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure which office lens you've encountered but there are plenty that offer a full 2.5 addition for the entirety of the near power, from even the big lens MFGs. I do believe shamir only offered up to a 2.25 for whatever odd reason 😂. I do far prefer using a traditional progressive "re-mapped" for a purpose, but yes they're not intended to see sharply beyond a few feet out. 3-5-10 ft design dependent. Of course a good ole flat top does a bang up job, but I prefer a backside digitally added segment myself 😁

@lorisharing4142 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 What is a "flat top" and what do you mean by "backside digitally added"? I really appreciate this Q&A - much needed!

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

@@lorisharing4142 old school lined bifocals where the add is a molded segment = flat top. Digitally added to the backside is a method of using modern freeform surfacing tech to do the same by cutting the add power change directly into the bank of the lens in the same way. :)

@lorisharing4142 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 Thank you so much! Learning more now in your other videos. Much appreciated!

@lorisharing4142 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 Just to be sure I understand... are digitally added on the backside using freeform surfacing lenses the "office progressives"? And is this the same as a "Blended bifocal" or is that something different?

@opacqueenie 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. Went over everything my optician did not, which does not speak well of the optician. I just went from bifocals (about 3yrs of wearing bifocals) to progressives and i cannot read anything, I cannot use my laptop or 36" monitor and i literally get motion sick from the wave and distortion. I spent $1000 dollars getting these damn things and i cannot use them! HELP!

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry for the delay! This needed proper attention, and my wife broker her leg on vacation for thanksgiving..Thanksgiving... world has been upside down since. At any rate, this sounds like it could be a combination of bad fit/bad design/ wrong rx. Especially after a week of time to adjust to using a progressive lens. (Assuming you've seen my other video on "wearing a progressive for the first time" as well). Computer specific lenses definitely make a huge difference on a larger screen, but you should still be able to find a spot that clears things up. I would start with a proper troubleshooting with your optician first, as there may be something deeper that needs addressed vs a second pair (which I would still recommend once all of the above has been verified).

@lorisharing4142 2 жыл бұрын

For what it's worth... I've worn progressives for around 25 years, and somewhere along the line had an experience exactly as you described. Turned out those lenses where polycarbonate, which was apparently the best material for the rimless frames I'd chosen at that time. Since then I'm aware of the lens material used, and always get Hi Index 1.67. In my experience with 1.67, there's absolutely no waves of dizzying distortion! In fact, other than that one experience with the polycarbonate lenses, I don't ever recall having an "adjustment period" with my other progressives. Just thought to pass this info along. Best wishes.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

Don't let em fool ya. 1.67 and 1.60 are infinitely better for rimless than poly which stretches at the holes and cracks from the mounting pressure 🙃😂 I will concur thst poly progressives create wierd peripheral anomalies which some don't notice and others CANT STAND AT ALL.

@lorisharing4142 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 Thank you so much for that update! Glad to know rimless are an option again. 😊

@bobprice6274 3 жыл бұрын

I need to find and eye doctor that understands progressive lenses the way you do. My expensive useless frames with the narrow close range will sit on the shelf. It is ironic that the frames I bought online through so much less expensive are so much better than the expensive frames I paid nearly $1000 for

@ThatGlassesGuy03 3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately that's a harder task than it should be 😅

@ismet5077 Жыл бұрын

VISION OF CANADA IN VINDSOR CANADA YOU VONT BELIVE EXPERT FOR GLASSES

@scionrazer Жыл бұрын

Which brand would you recommend? Shamir? Zeiss?

@ThatGlassesGuy03 Жыл бұрын

If I had no other choice, zeiss. But ultimately neither. I prefer something a little more special - IOT. 😎 Harder to find, but so worth it... just for the skill of the dispensers that tend to work with it if nothing else. This assumes you're in the US. In Europe, it's rodenstock, no question.

@scionrazer Жыл бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 I'm sadly not in the US, I'm in the Philippines. The brands we have are Shamir, Nikon, Hoya, Essilor, Zeiss, Tokai, Seiko. 14 hours of my day are spent on my laptop and mobile phone. I'm far-sighted with a very mild astigmatism. I did not know that we could customize these progressive lenses to our lifestyle (more mid and reading for people like me on the laptop half of the day, or more distance and mid for driving etc). I might have to check the opticians here if their technicians can do that. The challenge here is that the technician and the optician are usually two different people. I'm guessing there the optician and technician are one and the same?

@ThatGlassesGuy03 Жыл бұрын

@@scionrazer ahhh, gotchya! That's practically a different world, but given your options and prescription, seiko and specificallg the Surmount lens all day long (assuming their lens branding is the same there)!! 😎

@scionrazer Жыл бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 thank you for the recommendation. I'll check with them first thing (Ideal Vision). We do have a Vision Express here (offering Shamir and Tokai lenses only) and a Lens Crafter (not sure what lens brands they carry though)

@ThatGlassesGuy03 Жыл бұрын

@@scionrazer lenscrafters worldwide will be essilor products with different branding for each region 🙂

@YM-ex8hh 3 жыл бұрын

Which would you choose when presbyopic hits u? On serious note - glasses tech seem stagnant just like webcams.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 3 жыл бұрын

This really comes down to frame selection, power required, and tasks needed. There is no one answer and with literally hundreds of design choices to make, not a quick simple answer :) however many make it appear that way offering only 3 design names and letting the algorithms do the work creating at best successfully average results. 🙃 If you dont know where to look it definitely feels that way! There are advancements in surfacing and power algorithms being made every day, and 3D printing of lenses has been in its infancy in recent years as well :)

@YM-ex8hh 3 жыл бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 Tech progression of lenses are just too slow. Not sure if DeepOptics Omnifocal is a thing.

@ThatGlassesGuy03 3 жыл бұрын

Now that's a throwback! Many companies have tried various platforms of liquid crystal lenses, ive yet to see one survive. That doesn't mean its a bad concept, but Market price etc.. just haven't lined up yet. I suspect AR/VR will supercede form and take over long before a reasonable solution is found in other methods. For now, yes minute advancements in minor areas of lens architecture are all we have, such as lens design algorithms and material substrate creations (like new for 2018 HIVEX 1.60 POLYMER). 😁. Ill take every little baby step we can get in the right direction until as worn VR/AR can replace functional glasses. 😍

@YM-ex8hh 3 жыл бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 Lets hope they throw money and brains in this like they do with weapons...hey there is a lot of profit to be had here too.

@malanalan1 2 жыл бұрын

Hmm? I am really confused, How come Essilor Natural lens makes a great lens for computer work although it is just regular PAL? I suspect it is all about base power and ADD value, and not so much about OPAL vs PAL Actually OPAL might turn out worse than PAL for computer work. That was my actual experience. I think it is all about prescription, PAL quality and LAB quality

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

The good ole natural is a big fat hybrid barrel shaped corridor with minimal pinch at the "intermediate" bump under 2.00Add (which would rarely be exceeded in a proper intermediate - near setup, while it was never known for an expansive distance zone used as a normal pal, it actually functions beautifully when trimmed down and in moderate powers really only requiring the no add and 80% add zones to have good efficacy🙂, on the flip side I also like anyone's freeform compensated designs as rx complexity increases allowing access to much better designs than what traditional OPAL would be. Now, with lined bifocal backorder and not available at all in newer blue blocking materials we've actually been shifting to a digital backside freeform ground in bifocal(in my shop at least) with incredible success across the board for wearers of all walks of life as a computer focused pair (read not necessarily an office use where more than 3' distance might be required) 😁

@malanalan1 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatGlassesGuy03 I noticed that Essilor Interview (their OPAL) is no longer available. What could be a reason for dumping the only Essilor OPAL?

@ThatGlassesGuy03 2 жыл бұрын

Now that I can't answer, I noticed they dropped the essilor computer nearly a decade ago (actually wasn't aware they had relaunched it under the interview name, though that could be a local market name as essilor loves to do). I suspect they're leaving the office field to shamir and not bothering under their own namesake flag these days. The shamir office was a better design and largely an essilor owned company anyhow.