MK LEO *shows ZeRo on screen*

Video starts at 4:45, you're welcome

legends says elite smash Belmont players have all buttons map to special for max optimization.

Correction: The Optimal way of Playing Smash is with the Wii Balance Board, with the DK Bongos being a close 2nd, and the Dragon Quest Slime at 3rd Place.

Slime controller no doubt

I do Z jump and XY grab. Took FOREVER to retrain my brain but was honestly the most tangible improvement I've ever felt in Smash. Being able to execute any direction aerial with the C stick without darting your thumb to X to jump is a godsend. Your air mobility feels improved tenfold.

0:36 “We got courses from pros like MKLeo!” *shows zero*

NES Controllers Shows SNES controller.

"Disconnect your pro controler!"- every TO ever and for ever.

Pro tip: if you hit jump and A at the same time while holding a direction, you can quickly and easily execute a short-hop aerial. This also works for doing a quick short-hop special. For setting up things like ness PSI-magnet combos

10:58 I've noticed Zackray's controls before, but the last 6 months, he's switched to GameCube, because pro controller wireless problems... Just FYI.

Ahem, You appear to have left out the solo wiimote, the single best way to play smash competitive

Guys guys, don't expect to grow so fast. Everything takes time

8:32 Was a synchronized timing.

What I find optimal need a wireless Gamecube Controller for : - Stick with more precision - Left bumper and X to jump, C stick to tilt to do easy shorthop and RAR and buffered short hop attacks - Left and right trigger to shield - Grab on Y - A and B unchanged - Right bumper to special to wavebounce and out of shield pre selected option (if you do a special move and move C stick+jump while on shield, the outcome is different whether you got it on shield or not)

It may be helpful to have a controller scheme specifically set up for Elite or competitive play. Set your D pad to shield to mash out of control grabs and the such much easier. Save the taunts for friendly play. Excellent vid!

"The sweet sweet asmr the gamecube controller brings to the table" That part right there made me give the video a like

Seeing Zackray's unusual control scheme was so surreal to me cause I was like, 'woah, and here I thought all pros did was turn off tap jump'. Been playing with B jump, Y attack, X special, A grab since mid last year and there's always a little side-eye from your opponent when you set your controls like that.

GameCube controller: “Input lag may be present” Pro controller: “It can sometimes be very inconsistent Me: “Laughs in my wireless GameCube controller hybrid which for some reason renders as a pro controller on the switch”

I def needed to see this. I’ve been playing default settings since smash 1. I can’t beat these competitive ppl online and now this is video def gives hope. Back to training I go. Thank you

I love having L + LZ both being jump. and Leaving R and RZ for Grab and sheild. It makes it super easy to short hop wavedash dance. And Makes ShortHop falling aerials a breeze With the new short hop mechanic in Ultimate

ahmm i havent seen a tournament where joycons are legal...

I really like my setup despite it being wacky. I use joycons most of the time, jump with right trigger, shield with left, left bumper is an alternate special button, right bumper is grab, the topmost button (x or y) is shield, the leftmost (y or x) is jump. Tilt stick, high sensitivity, no tap jump. I find it much easier and more instinctive to jump with the trigger rather than the buttons because it allows me to more easily attack separate from my jumps, and no extra movement is needed if I want to use the c stick while jumping. The extra special button has a few gimmicky uses but in general doesn’t get in the way, as I still have a grab button. I don’t use X or Y too much but pressing two jump buttons or two shield buttons does have a few uses.

0:03 What? I need a controller to play Smash? You're kidding me. No other game requires one!

Okay so maybe this is an uncommon setup but I haven't seen people talking about it and I find it really comfortable. On a pro controller, I set B to jump, Y to attack, A to special, X to grab, Tilt stick, Tap Jump off, ZL to jump to make shorthopping easier, ZR and R to shield, and L to basically anything because I haven't found a good mapping for it just yet. Compared to normal controls, this seems really bizarre and even weirder than Zackray's controls. But it also works really well for me. More people should try it out.

Jump on shoulder is AMAZING. I have A as my grab button, Y as attack and B as special, X as also jump. Doing a special and jump at the same time is great.

My setup as a ZSS main is ZL-Jump, L-grab, ZR-Shield, R-Special, D pad-shield, Right/C Stick- Tilt attack, X and Y- Jump, A- attack, B-special. XY as jump for short hop, ZL as jump and R as special for b reverse, wavebounce and side b reverse (when coupled with Tilt Stick). Tilt to right stick for easier tilt attacks, b reverse and wavebounce, while having access to quick aerials. D pad on shield for mashing out of grab. Finally Tap jump off, High Sensitivity on, AB for smash attack as well as rumble is optional

So glad this video wasn’t just “tilt stick tap jump off!” Also citing university studies is pretty legit. 😂

His tone is so proper I honestly can't tell if he is giving advice on controllers or trying to sell me a controller.

"...or on a long coming-of-age journey through the wilderness, leaving you high and dry" whole ass feeling @4:08

Huh... my setup is kinda similar to Zackray's... Pro controller: B - Jump A - Attack Y - Special X - Jump ZR & R - Shield ZL & L - Grab C-Stick - Smash The jumps being opposite each other on X and B is from the Brawl days, when Ganondorf had short-hop DAir and instant aerial DownB as viable things, and the mental separation of rolling my thumb either direction made sure I knew what I wanted. If I single-finger Shield, I can roll, but if I double-finger it (both on the right), then it's easy to shield-shift.

pro user here. first thing i did when first playing was remap b and a to jump, y to attack x to special. feels like playing a platformer. you automatically short hop when you press jump with either attack or special.

I played Melee for many years since it came out. I had no issue switching to pro controller and in fact quickly fell in love with it and like it much better than the GC controller.

Tilt stick is ok but I really wish their was an option to remove smash from the A button and have that be just tilts and keep smash to c stick

I like how he threw in the tip about disconnecting controllers. Was a big problem at a local I went to with people leaving their BT controllers connected.

I use the GameCube really, just because of the little dips in the control sticks. Seems small but makes it so much easier to input different moves

I put jump on B, attack on Y specials on X and A, tilt jump off and everything else default (on pro/joycon/portable mode)

"It's a lot easier to flick a joystick than a button" Why, yes. Maybe because the stick can move, perhaps?

if you press jump and attack at the same time you do an instant short hop ariel so you don’t need to do crazy mapping

Cursed but optimal layout: Tilt Stick ZR: jump - flick ring and middle finger for easy IDJ R: Attack LR: Shield L: Special Y & B: grab with this set-up you only ever move your thumb off the c-stick to grab and have access to every universal tech (not sure about every characters' specific nutty stuff) less hand motion means less fatigue/strain and makes it the fastest

I actually am planning to get a wireless game cube controller once i have enough. But as of rn i have my pro controller set up to act similar to a game cube controller.

Wish Nintendo would add Short Hop as an option. There's no reason to have more than one regular jump button.

Personally setting a shoulder button to Jump really helps with forwards Bairs. Along with setting Tilt Stick. I’m able to make sick plays and combos I would otherwise be almost incapable of doing especially with characters with combo-friendly Bairs like Young Link and Link

In the last few weeks I have really been digging the double joy con controller attachment

I'm no pro but I want to share my control scheme anyway. Jump is ZL Shield is L & B Attack is R & Y Special is ZR & X Grab is A. Tilt Stick. Puts a strain on the left arm when I wasn't used to it but it eventually belcame natural. Mapping the attacks on the shoulder buttons helps when i need to do Megaman's pellets jump cancel and keeps my thumb on the tilt stick.

My gamecube controller settings. My top buttons - shield, A - attack, B - special, Y - jump, X - grab, C -tilt. No rumble, no stick jump, high stick sensitivity. Might use a shoulder for jump after this video though

Doesn’t mention how u can map 2 bumpers to jump and press them at the same time for easy consistent short hops.

Stick jump off because you cannot do falling up airs unless you've already used your 2nd jump. I main ZSS and short hop falling up air is a ladder combo starter. Pretty important.

Making B and Y set to jump makes it immensely easier to short hop. You just have to use your thumb to press both buttons at the same time.

I definitely recommend no tap jump, tilts and setting a shoulder button to jump. It's called double sticking! It's incredibly fun, useful and comfortable

Don’t know if anyone else knows this but if you change one of the guards into a jump and hit that and another button for jump simultaneously it also counts as a short hop. Requires much less precision that way. Discovered this accidentally but hadn’t stopped since.lol

Bidou: Allow me to introduce Myself

Quick tip: two jump buttons at once is always a short hop.

I switch the special button (b) and the the jump button (x). I also used tilt stick

On GameCube or standard controllers I just change C stick to tilt. Done

I dunno if I'm just weird but I put all the shoulder buttons as shield, X as grab for both game cube and pro controller and jump for just the Y

One day a legend will be born that only uses the donkey Kong drums to win tournaments

Main problem I have with the pro controller is that the left stick does not have notches. Getting specific angles is so helpful for certain characters

if you want to be a luigi main and learn the zero to death make sure to turn stick jump off or you cannot land the u-air in the combo

I have a wired Luigi PDP controller, so I have access to all 4 shoulder buttons. My L button is a jump button, R, zR, and zL are the same. Tilts are set up for c stick, and stick jump is still on. For some reason, this works absolutely fantastic for me (coming from a Falcon main).

"Speaking of taunts," I don't like where this is going... "You can remap the taunt buttons" *STOP.*

I would choose the Switch Pro Controller because it works on all Switch models including the Switch Lite. The GameCube controller will only work on the GameCube, the original Switch and the upcoming OLED Switch.

I honestly really like using joycons, I remap R to jump and set ZR to grab and ZL to shield and now with the added button remapping in the switch home screen I can also remap L to smash if I wanted to. I jump a lot as a luigi and G&W player, so R jumping and R+X short-hopping feels very comfortable. I do have a GCC tho, and with that I am struggling to decide whether I should -have Z be grab and R be jump -have Z be jump and R be grab

Change one of the shoulder buttons to jump And tilt stick to attack cancel bair

I use a PowerA controller with 2 extra buttons on the back where your fingers rest. I map one to jump (for the same reason as the shoulder jump config) and I map the other to grab

I forgot that this was an option. I'm definitely gonna try putting tilts on the cstick. Maybe I'll one day be good at this game lol.

0/10 they didn't teach me how to use the Slime Controller

Zackray doesn't use the procontroller anymore

Mentions "pros like MKLeo" > proceeds to show ZeRo in the same second as mentioning Leo Lessgooo

I actually have a pro controller at the moment and use joycons anyway with smash stick because I play falco and i never really misinput a tilt, uh tips for fellow joycon boys. Make stick sensitivity low. Uh dont be too rough on ur sticks unless u like joycon drift

What's everybody's control setup? I go GCN with Tap Jump off, Rumble off, A+B Smash off, and Stick Sensitivity on normal. L is special, Z is jump, and X is Grab. Everything else is normal. Having the grab button be one of the face buttons instead of two jump buttons makes it so much easier for me and I play with Claw Grip so short hop aerials aren't affected too bad

Got the notification 5 days after upload, nice job KZfaq

The reason why Zackray puts grab on left trigger is so that he can do gyro release aerials better with ROB. He said this in a video recently where having grab separate from him right hand which is inputting aerials makes the timing easier. After trying this, I agree as well and have pretty much the same control setup. As for D-Pad set to Grab and Jump, he uses that to mash. Setting D-Pad all to Shield is not optimal for mashing because you are putting in the same input. When mashing, it's most optimal to put in different inputs. So spamming the Shield button is actually not a good idea. So actually, if Zackray really wanted to mash with D-Pad, he should make it something like Grab, Jump, and Shield since you can put in 3 inputs into the D-Pad. Another benefit that may have been unintentional is that if you press both the shoulder and B button to jump, you get a short hop. So it kinda makes short hopping easier.

Your thumb can easily hit Y and A at the same time for quick aerials

Here’s my control map (I use Dual Joycon, planning to get Pro Controller soon) Buttons And Analog R Stick goes on Tilt for me I have a very hard time trying to move the L stick slowly and knowing when to press attack On the other hand, Smash Attacks are much easier for me to do and I can input them much faster R Stick Tilt also helps me dash into Tilt attack, for when I’m playing something like Roy, or really any character with high end lag dash attacks X is jump for comfort Y is attack for comfort, and because it’s near jump I can short hop aerial much better and it helps a lot. A is Special, near jump for the same reason B I don’t really care about, I just put it on Special if I miss input A, which barely happens. D pad I don’t use For L and R/ZL and ZR I put Shield on L and Grab on R for comfort, as of other games I play, like Hollow Knight or Metroid Dread (specifically just Metroid, as you can’t change controls in that game) where L is a movement option while R is a type of attack. Advanced Settings Rumble is off but I might turn it on just because I might be able to handle Rumble, but for now it’s off. Attack + Special Smash attack is off Stick Jump is off Stick Sens is on normal, I just don’t see the difference turning it low or high And I think that’s it.

My set up is this -pro controller -tilt stick -rumble off, tap jump off -senstivity high -a b smash on -zr jump -r special -y attack -a jump Everything else is the same I'm new to competitive smash so getting used to these controls wasn't that hard. I have a shoulder buttons mapped to jump because it makes short hope aerials easy and some advanced tech easier to perform without needing claw grip. Special is for easier wave bounces Attack is set to Y because it's closer to the control stick and I play zelda a lot so it's more intuitive for me.

Thank you for the tip about the tilt stick. I was always doing smash attacks, and the CPU was punishing me for it :|

I like the Pro Controller I own for the AGL and AGR buttons, I have jump on AGR which makes aerials SO easy to combo.

I am new to Nintendo used to only xbox but I loooove the game cube controller.

In other words, do what you want

Thank you I can now chain 3-4 times with no problem

That is just outright false that a wireless pro controller can have less input lag than a wired Gamecube controller

My layout is X = Special, Y = Attack, A-B = Jump. Tap Jump = Off and C Stick = Tilt Stick.

I've always used the plain controls with my right stick being tilt.

smash stick + tapjump left stick = ull never be able to uptilt reliably without possibly triggering a jump or am i mistaken? xD

I actually like to map grab to the x button on the gamecube controller, that way my grab is right next to my jump (the y button). I remember my friends always bashing on me for doing this, but idk man it feels faster and more comfortable than hitting z for me.

i actually like the joycons because theyre small. less travel with the joysticks and buttons are close together and less clicky. the bumpers also have little travel too

0:38 He is not MkLeo xd

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, you can still easily move your shield with only one shield shoulder button. Just hold your shield trigger and B at the same time, then tilt the stick and you get easy shield tilting Except inkling mains, because no one likes inkling

Incredibly helpful, subscribed.

My favorite are actually switch base controllers and PS4 controller

If you change your controls and haven't done World of Light and grinded the Spirit Board (plus Summoning, etc.), it's a pretty good excuse to kill two birds with one stone. Forty hours of that slog will commit the new scheme to muscle memory, and you will get all the spirits too. A lot of the World of Light battle mechanics are strange, so it's usually bad for practicing Smash in general. However, for something as basic as (re)learning the control scheme, it's fine.

in brawl times, i was the master of the wii mote

Shield on a shoulder button makes Peach and Daisy's float much easier to hold

"He's too pure to taunt"

you know what I would want? a toggle button to change what the C-stick does, Like pressing it switches been tilt and smash mode, this way you can have both Tilt and smash on the C-stick.

I love the procontroller but when playing shotos the stick feels way to heavy and is easier to missinput so i switched to Gamecube C and its way more accurate, and for the rumble the only character which i feel is actually useful is with lucario because the sphere varies on damage so is quite hard to tell how much it will charge based on visual cues

personally, my 8bitdo snes controller is the best i've used. it has dual toggles like most modern controllers, i just prefer the shape since i grew up on snes. if you want something like the snes controller, i'd recommend that.

I set my left shoulder button to grab because its a bigger button than the Z button or EVEN the L button if your play on a pro controller

Anyone know the best binds for Luigi?