The black knight being unused as a storage chest for bronze lances is peak optimisation
@RareSeldas5 ай бұрын
'Hey Burger King!' 'Yeah?' 'Carry all this shit I'm going to use to beat a defeated helpless man to death with for EXP'
@Multiyuppp3 ай бұрын
You'd still have to make sure the weapons aren't accidently equiped, he can use lances in this game.
@SirJack32 жыл бұрын
Every good RPG player knows that the right way to play is to spend a huge amount of time grinding in the early game in order to trivialize the rest of it.
@swinelias2 жыл бұрын
True
@salem-salem44262 жыл бұрын
Players are excellent at ruining their own fun )=
@Kurayamiblack2 жыл бұрын
NPC: "We need to hurry! The princess will be executed in 20 minutes! We must push through!" Player: "Sure, just let me spend 3 hours forcing Chad to camp this spot and fight the same dude until his muscles are the size of boulders" NPC: "Sir, that doesn't make ANY sense and even if it did we don't HAVE an hour! We need to-" Player: "Just obey my orders and trust me" *Arrives 3 hours and 15 minutes later and the princess is still only just about to be killed* Player: "See? I told you. Just in time, like always.... CHAD, OBLITERATE!!!!" Enemy Boss: "Now watch helplessly as your princess di- OH SHIT, CHAD!!! HOW DID YOU GET UP HERE SO FAST!?!?"
@SirJack32 жыл бұрын
And then you spend six hours and three different exploits to get Chad's ultimate weapon in the first section of the game even though the game is easy enough without it and you could have gotten the weapon normally with a ten minute quest if you just waited to where you were supposed to get it.
@Wii4a112 жыл бұрын
Amen. I hate games that punish people for grinding.
@hank28157 ай бұрын
You'd think Sephiran's main forces would've arrived to apprehend Jarod by then.
@goncalocarneiro30432 жыл бұрын
You do have a Jagen, look at her.
@evelynn54332 жыл бұрын
Volugg and the wolf queen wagging their tails is so cute
@despicableone4495 Жыл бұрын
Disturbing comment
@sethzarandona232517 күн бұрын
@@despicableone4495 Why is it disturbing? It’s two wolfies wagging their tails. That’s adorable. Widdle doggos
@AmirPrinceling3 жыл бұрын
Good lord, I love boss abusing but grinding Fiona all the way to Silver Knight on Jarod's map? Amazing dedication.
@Stachelbeeerchen2 жыл бұрын
Thats not dedication. Thats lunacy.
@AmirPrinceling2 жыл бұрын
@@Stachelbeeerchen Those words are one in the same in my eyes.
@scottjefferson40482 жыл бұрын
@@Stachelbeeerchen thats necessity if you want fiona to be useful in hard or maniac
@Stachelbeeerchen2 жыл бұрын
@@scottjefferson4048 yeah the difficulty setting "Maniac" implies you have to be a Nutcase. Boss abusing her is a total qualifier for it.
@scottjefferson40482 жыл бұрын
@@Stachelbeeerchen heal abuse is a MUST for maniac and even hard mode because the shit brigade needs all the grinding you can do.
@nathanjohnson23822 жыл бұрын
I did this with Leonardo once I wanted to see if it was possible for him to be a usable unit. Dude still struggled to double as a Marksman
@SupermanMFL Жыл бұрын
I did this with him too I totally underestimated his stats he was kicking ass as a sniper with good stats I gave him one speed wing cause his lack of his growth rates but I was totally shocked when he got to his 3rd tier stick with double bow his strength is not his best growth rates along with his speed but man I was satisfied until up I used the dawn brigade team except Fiona cause she suck’s terribly
@einjharrelracaАй бұрын
i just did a run where my leonardo capped every stat and he STILL dissapointed me and couldn't do any meaningful damage in the tower XD
@PumpkinFox2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of grinding on chapter 4 for Laura to get her promotion done on a Laura Solo run I did a while back... But it didn't take nearly this long.
@gideonantonissen62752 жыл бұрын
You got my respect dude that literly took forever to do i assume
@theleftfootedsultan3 жыл бұрын
You absolute lunatic. I love it!
@eb.37642 жыл бұрын
I grinded Fiona to the second stage. But the third??? mad man tactics hahahahaha
@gregosa9807 Жыл бұрын
The balance in RD was something else.
@def702 Жыл бұрын
It's kinda sad that even with the bronze Lance, she wasn't able to just one shot Jarod as a paladin
@jimmycockslap3618 ай бұрын
She truly is an awful unit
@FeeshieBoi6 ай бұрын
Neither could the Black Knight with Alondite unless he procs Eclipse. It's hardly a problem exclusive to her.
@michaelharding29535 ай бұрын
Jarod is also promoted, I'm not sure anyone can one shot with a bronze lance unless they proc something
@billytringuyen15 ай бұрын
bronze lance can;t kill anything lol, let alone a paladin
@gingerkays73622 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the time I spent hours in the Marowak dojo reaching level 45 before the “spring a trap to capture Grovyle” part of Pokémon Mystery Dungeon
@SirVyre Жыл бұрын
I like using the knight on the free the prisoner's map, because there's the option to train Tormod's group as well like this. One time I spent like 5 hours or some shit training Volug, Vika, and Muarim to SS and S rank strike. And I got every other Dawn Brigade member to promote that was there, as well as a few levels for promoted Fiona and Meg. I had to rescue up a light unit with each of them eventually(cept Vika can't carry anybody so I just had to stop training her) to cut their speed in half so they wouldn't kill the guy lol.
@andyvanmuilekom73903 ай бұрын
Start with vika untransformed to break his weapon shell get mad xp gains
@alicedual-swordlesbian5251 Жыл бұрын
just another day in the life of the dawn brigade
@echogaia17082 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing but to promote both Edward and Laura to their final classes and they ended both on my tower final team as a result.
@melphegorstar89382 жыл бұрын
Now I want to try to do that
@thehedgehogdriver45912 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of when on the cave level in part 2 I beat all the enemies on normal, but then tried to grind Leanne to level 40 using vigor. I may have given up after level 22, but still.
@zigludo2 жыл бұрын
incredible work mr 3-13 acher i mean archer i mean i mean archer
@billytringuyen15 ай бұрын
.... wtf are you on
@betterthanbrooklyn58062 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I capped all her stats one playthrough and she still wasn't that helpful in the tower
@mikeng18052 жыл бұрын
Because paladin have a bad max stats in exchange of their good move
@neopets66610 ай бұрын
Lol now I have 2 try this 🙃
@DrewPicklesTheDark2 жыл бұрын
Not sure what's worse, the time it took, or that Fiona doesn't actually kill Jarod as a high level paladin, bronze lance or not.
@supermariogamer5294 Жыл бұрын
Jarod's defense is quite high at this point in the game and his HP is not too shabby either. 18 Def Halberdier.
@tricky2795 Жыл бұрын
@@supermariogamer5294 Jarod survives a single hit from the Black Knight with Alondite, so yup
@ladyriethegoldendelmo544110 ай бұрын
@@tricky2795 u know this reminds me. I hope she gets into heroes. I mean they made lucia blue hair really good. so lets pray the same for her lol
@rubemartur82392 жыл бұрын
well and so going to part 3 and fight this monster you created. high expectations
@Trans4Hire7 ай бұрын
Absolutely fantastic. Massive time sink and definitely not worth it but that's what makes doing it so amazing
@d.altounian2442 жыл бұрын
Just do this with everyone and you have yourself an easy part 3, well at least for Deain gang
@devilhdante7 ай бұрын
Jared: "Please, no more!!!" 😂😂😂
@q-py6zc10 күн бұрын
you should be proud as one of the first people to actually deploy fiona for more than 1 map :)
@technicallythecenteroftheu13492 жыл бұрын
Fuck me and I thought I was patient maxing Quan on Jacoban.
@MyBanannas5 ай бұрын
The amount of time wasted just to do something so silly reminds me of the time I played through FE8 from start to finish because I wanted to do something with a bug I'd just found out about. Long story short, Moulder one shotted the demon king with a crit using Gleipnir.
@BorisBidjanSaberi112 жыл бұрын
I just started playing this game again and holy shit lol
@wolfbear3202 жыл бұрын
I don’t know, but I can’t stop laughing when I saw this title immediately
@brendanlepeska42952 жыл бұрын
I’ll give this a try next time I play this game.
@saver_spenta_mainyu2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, now no one shall doubt Fiona's power!
@SoberViolin2 жыл бұрын
Not using Rafael to maintain sanity :thumbsup:
@nameplease8811 Жыл бұрын
…her stats are literally just tatunia (the pre promote paladin in the grail mercenary I don’t know how to spell it) except her luck stat
@ancillarity Жыл бұрын
I think IS did Fiona and the rest of the Dawn Bridage dirty by not giving her a personal weapon.
@8menincostume3 ай бұрын
It become less on how you can wield your units and more like if you have the money so that can use the equipment to gain exp
@SilverHunterN10 ай бұрын
I remember boss abusing Jarod with Vika kicking him for about 20 turns, but I did give Vika paragon so she got like 4-5 levels up. But since Vika can only counter in human form, I had to use her laguz from to boss abuse a bit longer after 20 turns. This was on Normal though. I think I could have used spectre cards while Vika is in human form in order to get more EXP from Jarod, but I thought 7-8 levels up with Vika is good enough.
@gamermanzeake2 жыл бұрын
This is a hilarious waste of time, but incredible demonstration of dedication. Some time ago, I had begun to love the concept of Prepromotes, and soon after I had decided that less and less grinding makes a funner experience. I was not wrong in my findings. Most games have better Prepromotes than growth units to be honest. But this is a whole other level of grinding.
@maltheopia2 жыл бұрын
Prepromotes can get in on the fun of grinding, too. If you're not grinding Marcus to level 20 before you go to Dragon's Gate, what are you even doing with your life?
@andreescalona89026 ай бұрын
@@maltheopiaenjoying it
@maltheopia6 ай бұрын
@@andreescalona8902If you're going through life without a level 20 Marcus putting an axe through the head of Darin, are you really even enjoying it?
@GamingTranceSeer11 ай бұрын
All that dedication and still gonna be barely better than Meg.
@XxChronOblivionxX5 ай бұрын
Y'know, there is a fanfic on AO3 about this exact scenario from Jarod's perspective. Breaking his weapon in a doomed attempt to scratch the Black Knight, Fiona poking him with several bronze spears and being handed several more, as the rest of the group plays cards in the back. He has been reduced to nothing but a training dummy.
@halcyon_echo422 жыл бұрын
She took me to part 4 to get to Silver Knight wow
@sparkleprizm1992 жыл бұрын
Legend, icon, best Cavalier in the series. 💕
@seanpazdera64072 жыл бұрын
Sully exists bro
@KiryuSatonaka2 жыл бұрын
Franz exists
@JlBUNROCK Жыл бұрын
We love a cavalier of color
@AgrestisAnima2 жыл бұрын
Cool! This reminds me of me grindig in part 1 a few years ago. I dragged Fiona and Meg right to the tower finale. They are both awesome. But it didn't take THIS long holy shit! Respect! Oh and one question: how did you record this?
@SableFE2 жыл бұрын
An emulator and OBS
@pawadox49582 жыл бұрын
Everyone: Fiona sucks Mangs: Fiona is great This vid: haha bad unit promotion abuse
@michealvincinton949 Жыл бұрын
Fiona legitimately hit level 41 as a Silver Knight before being able to just 1RKO Jarod.
@xxProjectJxx5 ай бұрын
This is what optimal fire emblem looks like.
@emberhermin522 жыл бұрын
Hell yes
@MidnaNightengale2 жыл бұрын
This video should be called, "How to actually make Fiona, and no one else, useful in end game".
@alexpowell11842 жыл бұрын
she still isn’t useful
@mauricioalvarezpino18182 жыл бұрын
Not even useful, Silver knights have bad stat caps in the only game where stat caps actually matter.
@TheClassicnathan2 жыл бұрын
Genealogy players: deja vu
@noishfanboy11412 жыл бұрын
geneology players after grinding their mediocre mounted unit against a boss for 200 turns to get them promoted and tell people about how good they are.
@luthierisbestboy81772 жыл бұрын
@@noishfanboy1141 I see you did that with Noish? Did you at least give him the Pursuit band after Sigurd told Arden to go back to guarding the castle?
@noishfanboy11412 жыл бұрын
@@luthierisbestboy8177 bruh ofc.I also married erin for maximum money since thief sword erin is loaded af.
@luthierisbestboy81772 жыл бұрын
@@noishfanboy1141 Noish. (You see what I did there?) And that means a loaded Fee in the second gen as well.
@kingbloodelf02 жыл бұрын
my gosh how long did 999 turns take lol. im not even sure you go through 999 turns TOTAL in a normal playthrough
@Femaiden7 ай бұрын
it makes me wonder about the game design, like every fire emblem does this. they give you powerful overleveled units alongside weak underleveled ones and the underleveled ones can get strong, but require a huge xp investment. . in a game where xp is limited and there's not enough to go around. and then they give some of them terrible stat growth on top of it. it's almost as if they don't want you to use these units. . .
@ZT1STАй бұрын
There's bonus exp in the game, that you can use to get 3 stats minimum (Which is mostly useful with capping other stats first), so it was probably expected that they would be viable enough to use should other characters die first.
@FemaidenАй бұрын
@@ZT1ST yeah, if you save scum it, you can make any unit reach their stat caps, but still, what i'm saying is that certain units are just great right out the door, while others require exploitation methods to makemthem just barely on par. i get the concept someone said in a forum somewhere that fire emblem is "meant" to be played "hardcore permadeth", like if a unit dies and you just keep playing and just replace them with a benched unit, but then those benched units are usually terrible and really far behind and take forever to get as good as the other ones the game just hands over to you. and i'm fully aware of "bonus xp", but again, that is a limited resource and it requires you to complete stages fast, meaning you aren't allowed to resort to,other methods, such as breaking the enemies's weapons and farming xp off them for 100 turns. you have to make a choice, do i finish the stage quickly and get enough bonus xp for 2 levels that i can save scum for good stats gains or do i exploit the stage to potentially farm dozens of levels spread across multiple characters, but then i miss out on the bonus xp and have to eat the random zero stat level ups? in the end, i took the latter strategy. it's literally the only way to max out your team levels before the game ends. especially since this particular game lets you carry over data to the sequel, but it only carries over a few bonus stats from characters that you completely maxed out. if you didn't max them out, like that one thief character, the stats don't carry over
@Sindgoemon2 жыл бұрын
i would NOT have this much patiences doing this im sorry
@azizabdul89142 жыл бұрын
damn that was something. it'll be even better if you boss abuse with Nolan instead.
@navarre21422 ай бұрын
"Fiona is pretty good guys"
@arashu5436 Жыл бұрын
I like training the DB but never touched Fiona cause of here meh stats and availability. Two chapter if I remember before endgame.
@einjharrelracaАй бұрын
gotta ask, why not use rescue to tank her speed in half so she didnt double (well until way later)?
@SableFEАй бұрын
I probably forgot to remove her savior skill 😅
@einjharrelracaАй бұрын
@@SableFE ah, fair enough lol :D
@lukaerd62582 жыл бұрын
and then there's a bunch of maps where her mobility sucks ass and is outclassed by everyone else. Seriously why did they make her a horseback unit?
@JaidynReimanАй бұрын
This is just Fiona's problem. She's not bad statistically, they just screwed her up by creating her for the Dawn Brigade who have horrendously bad maps for cavalry. She'd be a lot better if she was a Pegasus Knight which are also missing from the Dawn Brigade. Fiona exists probably because they wanted to have a Cavalier in the Dawn Brigade (as well as just having any sort of Tier 1 Cavalier at all, given all the PoR Cavaliers now start as Paladins). They just forgot to design the Dawn Brigade maps to make a Cavalier actually usable. Even if she was a prepromote Paladin she'd probably be a lot better. The map usage is still not great, but that's made up for the fact that her stats would be good enough at base to make her usable after you're done with all the maps she's useless on.
@NagumoHaruya Жыл бұрын
i always did this with the DB there are two boss abuse stages where you can basically grind like this. but is it fun? nope but there is no other way to make the DB strong
@MemeMuseum232 жыл бұрын
Now do it all again but with animations on
@JlBUNROCK2 жыл бұрын
You probably have some issues to do this. Which I also have 🙏
@joelcolegroveАй бұрын
I got Laura to level 20 saint.
@majikalmcmuffin62587 ай бұрын
i've litterally never seen fiona promote, let alone promote to tier 2, this is unnatural and must be stopped!
@projectember728 Жыл бұрын
If only macros existed on the wii Then you wouldn’t go insane from pressing the A Button
@luthierisbestboy81772 жыл бұрын
Did you use Fiona in the later parts of the game?
@SableFE2 жыл бұрын
I lost the save data for my emulator shortly after making this video, so I wasn't able to, unfortunately.
@luthierisbestboy81772 жыл бұрын
@@SableFE Oh, 3-13 Archer! I didn't now you played Fire Emblem games! I thought you were too busy being a meme.
@jerry31152 жыл бұрын
she is now viable
@AshtranDubs2 ай бұрын
Love how Fiona didn't promote at all Her horse did
@Azari642 жыл бұрын
and she's STILL GONNA BE BAD SOMEHOW :)
@PumpkinFox2 жыл бұрын
Mainly due to the maps themselves. Thanks for giving us a Cavalier the exact chapter they stop being useful!
@franbh942 жыл бұрын
@@PumpkinFox you just have to enjoy playing in Swamp and Ledges maps
@PumpkinFox2 жыл бұрын
@@franbh94 Also maps that just straight up reduce her movement.
@eb.37642 жыл бұрын
she's not that bad of a unit once you level her all the way up
@PumpkinFox2 жыл бұрын
@@eb.3764 I mean yeah, but with how BEXP works you can say that about any unit in this game. Even awful choices like Vika and Lyre.
@BlazingRaptor Жыл бұрын
All that work just to get stuck in the 3-6 swamp
@user-hf3gi3on6p4 күн бұрын
ここでのボスチクは良くやったw この時点でマスタークラウンって手に入るっけ?
@theGREATESTSCRUB2 жыл бұрын
Boss farming a classic xp grind
@antonioleyba652223 күн бұрын
That makes her look super weak tbh like most characters would have enough stat boosts to randomly kill him at a specific point of leveling up
@andyvanmuilekom73903 ай бұрын
Level 20 paladin dealing 7 dmg to a lvl4 hakverdier is wild 😜
@CommanderOshawott2 жыл бұрын
>Lvl 20 Spear Paladin >1-e Boss >7 dmg per hit That's.... Please tell me you forged a min might bronze lance for that because otherwise that's so far below what she should be able to do for that much investment
@saltyralts2 жыл бұрын
25 str, so probably.
@seanregan52272 жыл бұрын
fe fans say using training maps is cheating then do this
@TheAustin1 Жыл бұрын
let's be honest everybody would do this
@bluemujika5 ай бұрын
I'd upvote, I really would, but you're at 666 thumbs up. So please take this *thumbs up* instead.
@magolor78562 жыл бұрын
All that grinding and she’s still bad... 😂
@neopets66610 ай бұрын
Lol how else you supposed 2 use Fiona? She’s literally one of the only units I’ve never been able to get viable
@HuamiLim2 жыл бұрын
Easier to just hex edit it imo ^^; but bravo
@quiquencio5744 Жыл бұрын
Ok, but why kill jarod for 1 exp?? So many points for Sothe loss.
@k1ll3rcombo252 жыл бұрын
i had a friend who basically sidelined all the members from the dawn brigade. i was so upset. i mean i get it, you can manage however you want but if you play smart, you dont even need to boss abuse to get them all up to the same level as any of the rest of the end game units. i actually beat ike with Sothe on the castle siege. you only benefit if you make all your units equally strong for every occasion
@snowflower21282 жыл бұрын
The game won't be fun in the early game because it's too tedious and won't be fun in the late game because it's too easy. Welp, that's my opinion anyway.