They ought to because no real success can come by playing mind games with people and deceiving them only to extract their talent. That is a form of labor theft and is unlawful

Wait until the economy takes a dip, then they would not be going with her and "Upon further review, we've decided to not only not put you in the role that you have been doing for the last 9 months, but we are also reducing your salary as according to market research, you are over paid."

@@johnlozauskas778 Reducing my pay is the fastest way to make me quit.

I’ve done this at least twice. I applied for the role got passed over and then they wanted me to train those people. I conveniently forgot things and referred them to other people making more than me that didn’t know as much as me. Because I’m petty like that. If you don’t think I could handle the role I guess I can’t handle training the folks filling it. Edited for spelling*

@@johnlozauskas778 Maybe you should have watched the video. She resigned, completely. They wont 'not be going with her' when the economy takes a dip...because she's already gone.

That's the only good thing about this whole f*ed up situation. Now...watch Veronica end up with a better job making twice as much. Success is the best revenge.

Yup. Whether or not she gets the promotion at her company, she promoted herself by taking the assignment and getting the experience! ❤❤❤

Not in my case. Since I filled in and never had the title when I applied with the experience they confirmed my work date but not the position.

1 year.

Probably not officially, as they never gave her the title.

Obviously, never do so. Only bust your ass for a company that you yourself own and your well-being but never go out of your way for a default company

They. Always. Want. Blood.

If you were to drop dead tomorrow. They would have your job advertised well before your death was announced in the local newspaper obituaries

And any employees who work for you should not bust their gut for you.

Very well put

That's usually how it happens.

Happened to me, too! A month later I left that team and never looked back! I’m so glad now I didn’t get the job, because that Director is gone and so is that team!!! God had a much better plan!!! Just saying 😊😊😊 BTW: the so-called “more qualified candidate” left within a year!!!😂😂😂😂

I once got turned down for a role because "my experience didn't fit the needs of the role." Fair enough, you might think. The kicker is, I had created the role at the company, and had done it for 18 months while they looked to backfill me (a consultant) to take it on an internal basis. The new person got let go and they went out to market, so I applied. I got the (obviously automated) response that my experience of having done the exact role at the exact company wasn't suitable. 😅

@@interestedbystander196 That's crazy!! Did you take it further?

@@shirleysp8176 I did get around the automated screener and told them about how their recruitment process was flawed. The role was paying (way) too little in the end, so I passed.

I did! Don't regret it-AT ALL😂😂😂

I deeply feel that from personal experience.

@@lauraporter6516 So do I.

Yep, so get a promotion in a different company in same field for 2+years then come back to your old company as your manager's boss. :)

I'm glad that worked out for me😂

Which can be fine, because if you are irreplaceable, they better give you a damn raise when the time comes or your walking your ass out the door and they are really fucked then.

I hate to tell you this, but Veronica isn't a real person, she's a cartoon.

​@@HattMoldais not that deep bro

@@kguile7832 That's not a sentence. What are you even saying? lol

Agreed!

​@HattMolda She is a real person that's behind the voice. Also, this happens all the time. I've done it. What are you talking about?

The corporations do it to themselves so they can just sit and steep in their wastefullness.

If you ever attend a managerial seminar you'll understand their 'logic'. Hiring from 'outside' ensures that the person in the authority position has NO ties to those under them, no friendships, no knowledge or care about family situations, health issues, nothing. They are 100% someone who doesn't know any of these people from a hole in the ground. So that means no sympathy, no empathy, no 'covering' for your friends, and no KNOWLEDGE about the issues, problems, or complaints about things on the 'floor' that someone 'elevated' might make a point to try and change/improve for their former coworkers, that MIGHT cost money, or alleviate enough stress to make them able to identify OTHER problems that might be more 'ingrained' or systemic, rather than just 'surviving the day' endlessly. They want someone who is going to be EAGER to show to the COMPANY they can be the kind of Manager THEY want, so they're going to do everything they can to 'motivate' employees, and drive them harder without real regard to their wellbeing, morale, etc. Now... We KNOW this is counter productive, that companies, work, and overall performance is enhanced when people care about their work environment beyond simple self interest or survival. However the 'risk' of costs to keep employees happy fills them with such FEAR, that they'd rather have 75% profits from 100 Million by ensuring nothing changes, than risking only getting 60% profits of 200K. Cause it isn't just numbers go up that they are concerned about, it's Percentages can't go down either. Even if it means MORE money, they still want their 'entitled' share of whatever that profit is, and that percentage going down to make more money is just as bad as LOSING money to them. So they make sure that the only people going to most management positions ONLY think of the employees beneath them as 'assets' not people, not human beings, not even slaves, they are subhuman, tools, easily swapped out and replaced if they no longer work as intended, even if 'easily' is a stretch. Better to lose a good employee with impressive skills that hopes to improve things for their environment for a desperate College Student trying not to starve and will do anything so long as it pays. They even conducted a psychological evaluation on this a while back, many middle managers at various major companies after taking the test basically landed disturbingly high in Sociopathic Tendencies, aka people who fail to recognize other people as 'human'.

True! I got stuck in a position that I have a particular talent for and lost out on four or five promotions because of it. I finally said, "I was going to have to go in a different direction." Throwing their own words back in their face--- magically a "new" position (promotion) opened up for me before I could finish the notice period.

I learned this the hard way. I stayed about 8 years too long...

They never evaluate the cost of losing a trained and functional employee, loss of efficiency, loss of production due to training of the replacement and loss of production for the trainer. I have been through this as an ad hoc 'trainer'

People not being loyal is the fault of employers. Years of stupid decisions and now employers complain? Hahahahahahahaha

Only an idiot would be loyal to a large company in this day and age. Corporations evolved to be sociopathic narcicists and expect us to keep being loyal dumb dumbs cause that lets them wring out the most blood from our veins berore dumping us in the trash.

Years ago, I saved my company from being spec'ed out of a potentially large project. Large enough so that etiquette at the time said I should be safe for the next year short of sleeping with the boss's wife. I was fired within six months. Now a lot of stuff I do is password protected, or totally idiosyncratic to me, or dependent on some outside thing. And pretty undocumented. I also happen to keep tabs on competitors. If we leave on good terms, no issue. Good luck if I have to pull a knife out of my back.

Yep - this!!! ⬆️

I think by loyal they mean door mats or afraid.

More common

LOL!! We LOVE you Nicole! This comment cracked me up. So true, sadly.

THIS is the corporate world! Employees are nothing more than a commodity from which to derive maximum benefit to the organization at the minimum cost.

Go with option 2. 😂

Horror stories like this are a dime a dozen, sadly. People brought to tears, left burnt out, and/or left in a spiraling state of self abuse... all that to say, it's definitely more common across the US.

Really the entire staff should have walked.

omG, that sucks! that's the type shit that makes employees go nuts and burn shit to the ground. sorry to your mom.

"Reganal" lol

@@luvr381 thanks, fixed.

@@ScarlettR4364 your mom deserved better treatment but she could have reacted differently ( not take it as a personal affront ). Hope she finds a new position where she is appreciated and also gets satisfaction from her work. Your short reply above was classy, btw.

Literally what I was thinking

Probably B

Facts

Mostly A in the health care field.

Sadly, they often pay the new person from the outside *an even higher salary*. In fact, leaving every 2-3 years is one of the best ways to increase your salary. After a decade, you'll be making (on average) about 25% more money. And often (but not always), the new person is from a "higher" social class. People who come from certain families and who went to certain schools often *start* at the executive level. They do *not* work their way up.

The 2nd one!!!!!!!

Smarter way to get it done.

Resigned six weeks later... with how much notice?

Spoken like someone who isn't a cartoon character. Good for you. Always aim for better.

​@DaddyBeanDaddyBean who cares? they don't owe them the respect of two weeks.

​@@chrisdonovan8795the cartoon is the front for a real person. that doesn't invalidate her experience.

That's a feature, not a bug. All businesses get run into the ground to extract all the value. Then dump them and move on. That's what business majors *do*.

👍🏾👍🏾

The fact that this was a nonprofit makes it even more disappointing. But I'm not surprised... at all.

ED = Erectile Dysfunction? Most people don't know what ED means. You need to explain it.

@@christophernuckolls9964 In this scenario it means Executive Director. Broaden your horizons. Your comment is foolish.

This is your origin story... Be an amazing super Villian in their story While they are the foolish clowns in your story.

When this happened to me I immediately jumped ship and proceeded to extract the best of the company employees 1 by 1 (I’d contact them directly or via mutual contacts) into roles within my new company via recommendation. Got hefty recruitment bonuses too for my efforts meaning I was essentially paid for exacting my personal revenge against my unscrupulous former employer. The cherry on top of my two-tier vengeance cake was when approx 2 years later whose name & CV should I see in my inbox for a senior specialist role but my former manager. Used an almost- verbatim sentence he had used on me when denying me the role I was already working to notify him that he was unsuccessful in his application 😌. If you’re reading this Paul, you’re a tosspot & remembering fucking you over as you did to me always puts a big old smile on my face even on the shittiest of days.

​@@beverlyvantull8452 I agree whole heartedly! I can't wait to read about how your arc develops 👏🏾🤌🏾

This makes me so angry.

Hey, even super villains wear capes sometimes. You might be the villain in their eyes, but you could be the hero to everyone else including yourself.

It’d be nice if they give the original creator credit.

@@fabicorona13 who's the original creator? I saw similar comments on several of the Veronica videos.

Buy bitcoin

That's easy to say in a white collar job, but not so simple if you're a front line employee working three crappy jobs to stay afloat.

Don't always need FU 'money'. Veronica and her husband might have just paid off their house. It would be so satisfying to hear her say 'goodbye, corporate world. It's been crap.'

Yes!! Same here!!!!

That’s the only reason I’d take on additional duties or an acting title - for the NEXT job. I’d also demand these changes in writing before I took it as proof for future employers

Do it for the experience. If they don’t promote you, quit and move on

@@Jar0fMay0 I did and I did quit.

@@emacias1980 good, hopefully you have a better paying job

Me too. Never did it again as well. We learn through experience, unfortunately. Thankfully we learned the lesson after the first time.

Yup - the only good thing is is you can put that title on your resume. Its totally truthful. Then you can leave those a h0l3s for a company who does value your worth.

Document. Document. Document.

If it isn't written down, then it didn't happen, and your boss will take relentless advantage of this fact. Don't let them.

Se nd it somewhere they can't easily scrub it.

Ohh they knew what they were doing. If the creative dismissal didn't get you then they more than created a paper trail to make it seem like you weren't doing your job.

😢😪😭🙏🙏🙏🤞🤞🤞

I quit a job where I got meets for three years in a row with below average raises. They had to hire two people to sort of replace me. And they were both higher grade so the cost more too. All told about a 3:1 ratio when they were trying to save money

And I bet you were not getting four salaries or four hourly wages, you were under paid.

Its why I recommend everyone get out of education. I did 13 years, was up for Tenure 5 times, brought schools from 85% fail rate on the state exam to less than 5% fail rate five times. My reward? Non renewed. 5 times. Each time it was always the day before I'd get tenure. Get out of education. They don't want good teachers.

As someone who used to work for the department of education I totally agree with you. It doesn’t make any sense but that’s usually what they do.

I’m a retired TA & it does happen we do all the work of a teacher & get passed over. sad

Knock knock, it's your future AI replacement

Well, it's not so sound advice in a technical skills-based job. Promotion isn't always the goal in these fields, just more pay. So, each job needs a different strategy based on the goal that one is motivated toward. Oh, and no Ai can do my job of physically fixing the machines, so even the machines have to respect me.

I wouldn’t have done it right away but I would’ve done the same

That is classic. Wish I thought of it when I needed it.

Amen! Right to work state rights benefit the employee as well.

Who are they working from home for if not companies? Are you aware working from home has been noted in a recent study out of Stanford to reduce productivity by 20%?

​@@tjmarxpeople started their own companies. I know several who did exactly that. I'm sure there are plenty of "articles" stating a reduction in productivity. I don't know anyone who worked less when they work from home. We all work harder.

Ok@@anonymoose116 🤣 People did not en masse create their own companies. A study isn't an article. Anecdote is not evidence. Come back when you have something insightful to say

@@tjmarx okay 🤣🤣🤣 They literally did.

I don't think you know how dead on you are with this statement... it's the truth.

RETAIL. So....much....fuckery. Your experience sounds a bit like mine when I was working for Pier One Imports. The regional managers there screwed up royally. One of the store managers that hired me, Lucy, got things done. She was tough, but fair, but not in that bitchy kind of way. Wonderful to work with, got along with everyone. She also doubled as the store's visual coordinator when the store had to transition from one season to the next. When we had to transition from Fall into Christmas, Lucy's mother fell ill, and couldn't come in. After a back and forth between her and the regional managers, Lucy quit, and set off a chain of events that resulted in the store's closure. First, half of the sales associates, and the entire stock crew quit out of loyalty to her. Turns out, those associates and the stock crew had previously worked with Lucy at the Children's Place, and she hired them all into Pier One. Second, the remaining manager, Keith, was promoting sales associates to manager AGAINST THEIR WILL because nobody wanted to be Lucy's replacement. So once a sales associate got promoted, THEY quit. Third, instead of hiring a new stock crew, Keith decided that the remaining associates were going to double as the stock crew (but would yell at the associates for having to go into the stock room), train the new associates hired (a managerial duty), and gather the day's receipts - another managerial duty. We demanded more pay for more work, he refused, and we walked - leaving him with just a few new associates who didn't know what the hell they were doing. The regional managers then relocated Keith and those new associates to other stores throughout the city, and "temporarily" closed our store for the purpose of hiring new store managers, new associates, and a new stock crew. It never re-opened, and the location became a BCBG Max Azria store, less than 2 years after Lucy quit.

That was basically me. I got rehired with the company (I worked for them 10 years ago) as a part time keyholder (which was the job I had 10 years ago as well). But the manager of the store was running two stores and only allowed an assistant manager at the other location. So we had a part time manager, no assistant, oh and he didn't really do much when he was at our location anyway. Then he decided to take several weeks off during Christmas and New Years. And he didn't make up all the schedules before he left either. So as the person with the most experience (and the one who had trained literally everyone he had hired), I stepped up and kept the store running smoothly. I made up the schedules, although I had to do it all by hand as I didn't have access to the scheduling software. He comes back and I found myself having to continue to do a lot of things that he should have been doing as manager. I had already talked to the DM over Christmas and he'd said the situation was temporary and that eventually our manager would go back to his other location and they'd be looking for a manager for our location - he said I was his first choice. So when I called up the DM at the end of January cuz I was tired of doing the work of an ASM without the pay, I was gaslit and told that all the stuff I had been doing were "store-wide" tasks and that they weren't specific to managers (assistant or otherwise). When I said I was at the point of wanting to quit, he told me I was easily replaceable. So I told him to replace me. I walked out that afternoon. A month later, I noticed that the store almost never seemed to be open. I texted the only person still there that I knew about it - that the store only seemed to be open when she was there. An hour later, I got a call from the District Manager offering me the manager position. Guess I wasn't so replaceable after all, huh?

Ouch, little brother. That sounds like experience. I hope you're doing well now.

😢💔 how heartbreaking 💔

🙏

"Let everyone see those that received the promotion can't do the work." These are wise words. I'm going to follow this advice when school starts. Thanks.

should have taken their calls but then charged them consulting rates.

​@@hengineerThank you for your comment. That is a very good idea and the extra income would have certainly helped. I hope other people read your comment so they can gain

@anony1312 Dont beat yourself up. Its all about the money. You were awesome and had experience, so you could command more money for the position. So they hire someone from the outside or promote someone with less experience so they can work them harder and pay them less. So basically - its a back-handed complement. You are basically punished for being a great employee.

Facts!!! On the flip side she gain additional experience and can bring more leverage to the next company or work for herself..either way Veronica still winning ❤

That and she could probably go to the labor board and insist that She is owed back pay for the last 9 months for performing tasks and duties that are above her position within the company

I liked that last part. ❤

I really really love that last sentence and am going to use it.

Love the pun Act your age.

She hood; luv it. U know she’s gonna key her car

Um, that is HIGHLY illegal. You cannot discriminate someone because of children, family, etc. Please tell me you sued the sit outta him. PS. Im also HIGHLY in love with you right now because Radio Shack was my FAVORITE place!! ROFL!!

@@tellurye Worse I quit as did the current assistant manager. I was an associate and had been working at another store and was transferred. When the new guy found out why no one would train him he quit too! They closed weeks later!

THIS PART! All the time I see it.. can get "glowing" reviews and still be looked over & it be the ppl who been rolling with the company they thick & thin.

It’s because it’s easier for an outsider candidate to exaggerate their experience. And your boss knows all your flaws but none of theirs. Then there is the lazy I don’t want to hire you and your replacement. Although quiet quitting is more fun.

for the business it means they dont have to pay the cost to hire and replace the long line in on the command structure for the next ranks down

The people hired from outside are usually Management's inept relatives.

@@epicstyle1000it’s easier to hire an intern than an executive. I think hiring externally is done primarily because status quo bias. It takes true leadership to see you differently than in your current position, which most companies lack. Not moving people up actually costs the company more from a recruiting standpoint.

Not always. Usually harder to replace Veronica in her current role that the manager.

Exactly or else she would have been hired for the position immediately, paid more and trained more. And sent to lavish retreats and luncheons.

I worked for a federally funded college. The director hired family members. She got away with it by making her second in command....and lap dog, do the hiring. She hired her daughter, mother, son, ex-boyfriend's kids (through the lap dog) and nobody did squat about it. They kept shaving off my salary so her kids could get bonuses around Christmas. I didn't keep records, so I couldn't sue. Keep in mind, I was the best instructor there, according to student reviews. At least the college closed. But the program they work for still lives on. I'm still furious.

I got that too. Somebody's kid just graduated so they're going to give them a managerial role and pretend that they're more qualified than the person that they're taking the job from.

@@OfficialSeth 😡

Yup. This happened to a very hard working coworker of mine. She was not given the TL position because the 'ideal candidate' is friends with the CEO's son, so they decided to give the woman that is friends with CEO's son the position instead, because ✨️NEPOTISM POWER✨️ But the joke is this lady is very incompetent and does not work hard. She is a horrible employee but she is protected because... ✨️NEPOTISM POWER✨️

Sometimes job training is just teaching about internal processes. It’s not about skills for the role specifically, its just every company has different ways of doing things. I totally get this is unfair because she’s already doing the job but rn we are in such a bad job market and companies putting out job listings only to hire internally actually kinda sucks sometimes. Ultimately its their fault bc they shouldve not put out the listing and offered it to her first as a courtesy but still

It happens

@@mjjae8122 thats a total horse manure.

This has a slight scent of nepotism. I'm betting she's some higher-ups daughter, niece, cousin, or possibly, or her father is the friend of a higher-up. That or they're low-balling a college student.

She better be quicker than Veronica lol!

Thanks😢

Not. Certainly it could be that. But the other possibility, which often happens is exactly what HR mentioned. You're too good at the current role, which is why they don't want to promote you or do anything to allow you to move out of it.

"'Family?' So, in other words, you wanted to use emotional blackmail without repercussions?"

Or.... I might get to retire? Oh no!!

He didn’t want to retire. It was forced. He’d been there over 20 years. Plus, the man who took over his position was made a vice president of the department. The guy who caused the turmoil was only a Director. The man who replaced him had been hired a week after I was hired.

@@keendog91 forced or not... he got to retire, right? Sounds like a pretty big win to me

And youre...... not even that. But still found the time to look down on them for working hard.. nice

You perfectly summarized it.

"They just have to swallow me dry, every day." Savage af n I love it! Good on you!

At will employees can be fired for any or no reason.

Yep.