glad players have been speaking up on Kobes greatness.

Kobe is much greater with one fact: he did not recruit super team, he made his team Superior

Kobe is better and greater cuz he had more moves, was more clutch, won a dunk contest, noone gave him a title before he even entered the league, he had to earn it, he didnt run to other teams, he didnt have superstars come onto his team...at certain points was dominating the game period

Jordan and Kobe to me will always be the best ever in the Basketball ball and NBA history. I feel it will be many years to see if anyone could surpass those 2 or at least one of them.

You can't say 3 point shooting was a weakness, because he rarely shot them! If you say 3 point shooting was a weakness of MJ game, then it's definitely a weakness of LeBron's game. MJ shot 33% when the league average was 33%. LeBron shoots 34.5% when the league average is 35.6%, so MJ was a better 3 point shooter than LeBron, because he shot the league average, whereas Leclunk shoots BELOW league average 😂😂😂you lose again.

That’s a lot of weaknesses for Lebron 😂😂😂 F him! Mamba all day! 🐍

It's lowered because lebron pays media members who are affiliated with klutch

ROB IS RIGHT BIT LABRON ISNT 3.....AGREE WITH MIKE N KOBE BUT LABRON....LOTS MORE PLAYERS AHEAD OF LABRON

This was a great breakdown to what Horry said. And he was spot on. I don’t have Lebron in my top 5 because I believe there are other players past and one player present that are better than Lebron. Magic Johnson demanded from his players. He had 5 rings by age 30, and then retired because of HIV. Imagine had he not retired, how many rings he might’ve had 👀. He’s number 2 in my book. Showtime!! Kobe is #3, Bird 4, Kareem 5, Curry 6 because Curry made Golden State a dynasty, something Lebron has not been able to do, and Curry changed the game. Lebron is #7 in my opinion.

LeBron weaknesses was, he couldn't play well off the ball, he shied away from defending the best player and his free throws. But, he is a freak of nature. With the the no check hand rule in place, it's easy for a guy of his speed and stature to just bulldoze his way to the basket. And he has great genetics that adds to his longevity. LeBron is the most productive player of all time, but that does not equate to GOAT. And he leads the league in turnovers. Too many flaws to be considered the goat. LeBron also has to have a co-leader to win a championship. Dwayne Wade in Miami, Kyrie in Cleveland and Rondo in the bubble. He has never won a championship being the main leader.

Great break down. JORDAN also was 1 of the most underrated passers in NBA history.While i believe MJ is the undisputed GOAT the margin between kobe is closer while Bron is some where between 3rd and 5th imo

Y'all kill me with the assists shit! No one wanted to see MJ pass the ball. We wanted to see him score. He's the 1st and 2nd option. He should pass it as a 3rd option. Stop this assist shit! LBJ can't score like MJ. That's why he passes the ball a lot more.😂

Watched them play and their games not box score to know how these 2 real match on the court. Kobe at age of almost 35 dragging Lakers team to the playoffs playing defense blocking a frod dunking over 6'10 players or 7 footers. Le flop age 35 still got super team winning a mickey ring to have 3. 5 titles jumpshipped to Lakers to get a hold of Le media. To announce he's a goat.

The guy you talking to got more rings than all of them

Jordan’s only flaw was the years he took off from the league

Look at the way they give assist now.

Correction! MJ wasn't holding the best player on the opposing team (unless he had a physical and mental advantage). He had the 2nd best player in the league do that... Lebrinna simply don't play defense.... Who got multiple scoring titles while also being on the all defensive teams? Thanos, that's who!

LeBron has benefited from Adam Silver's no defense allowed-cupcake basketball league. From 2003-16 he only had 42 triple doubles. Since the 2016-17 season he has 65. Jordan's and Kobe's numbers would be outrageous in a NBA that is as physical and competitive as a flag football league.

Keep it up I’m wit it Detroit Love 👊🏾

Great vid

Lebron has only 1 true skill and he has it in spades. He drives to the net better than anybody ever. This skill makes other teams double and triple team him. As the result he finds open shooters with relatively easy passes. Most of his assists come from this great strategy, but compared to others his passes are generally not that spectacular. Bird averaged 3 more rebounds than Lebron's 7.5. 73% freethrows, 37.5% mid range and 34% 3 pointers is not goat material. 0.8 blocks per game is not great, 1.5 steals not great and 3.5 turnovers per game, 8th worst in NBA history. Inconistent defense looks bad on him. 4 and 6 finals record, but cannot win without a super team. It's not just Jordan and Kobe ahead of him in this goat debate.

I like that LeBron has bulked up over how many years. It has made his post game pretty great to watch. Overall, I agree with this vid. Mj is the goat, cant deny his lack of flaws on the court. Kobe was great to watch too. I miss the 00' -04 lakers. 04 was more of split between pistons/lakers. I loved watching Sheed on the Pistons

Big Shot Rob was dead on. Death to what anyone else says!

Why doesnt anyone talk about how lebron does not play defense, he doesnt run back down the court he walks , he will watch his team hustle down the court while he just walks -is that on court load management - just never heard of load management before lebron era

Jordan shot league average from 3 for that time... thats not a flaw and never was...lol nobody wants to talk about that.

MJs hang time was dangerous and he came in playing the post!

Michael Jordan career average for rebounds was 6.2

Kobe didn't have the whistle on his team

Jordan isn't even top 3 in the GOAT debate: 1) Wilt Chamberlain 2) Magic Johnson 3) Kareem Abdul Jabbar 4) Larry Bird 5) Michael Jordan Magic played the Center position during the 1980 NBA finals and the Lakers won that series. He was the best point guard in history too. Tell me Jordan could play center and win the series for the team. No way Jordan could do that.

Bro, you have said one of the best points ever in the GOAT Debate. The point you made if you put Lebron in there , you are lowering the standard.

MJ 🐐 🙏🏾

I’m a LBJ fan and you keeping it real 💯

Jordan was a master of going to the free throw line to stuff that stat sheet in points.

When it comes to those rebounds a lot of Lebron’s are uncontested no cap.

The fact that bill Russell isn’t considered the best. When we talk about average , when we talk about rings, is kinda ridiculous and that makes this argument basically irrelevant.

If stats don’t matter then why have they been counting them since the beginning of time

Kobe is the highest assist shooting guard in the n b a history can be a hot dog with that

Kobe was recruited by an Olympic team who had james, wade, Anthony, chris bosh, tim duncan, jason kidd etc. and came through like captain america And while he was on the court it was clear who the alpha was

Kobe's shooting skill is almost 98% !!!!

He has those three ranked like I think a lot of us do. But yes, I agree with what he said, and with what you said, it’s really hard for anyone to make the argument that LeBron was more skilled than Michael, or Kobe, he’s just bigger, and he can play bully ball. I’ve noticed even LeBron fans as of late has stopped Twerking it up for LeBron‘s field goal percentage because it’s easy enough to point out that Kobe was more of a shooter where LeBron is a 6ix9ine 260 pound guy that just runs to the basket to do a dunk and as of the last four or five years since it’s against the rules to play defense usually when he runs/travels to do the dunk everyone on the opposite team just kind of stand there and literally moves out of his way, I kid you not I’ve seen LeBron running towards the basket and because no one can play defense anymore I’ve seen three guys like separate and spread out to give him room so he can run up and dunk it. Yeah, a guy that’s 6 foot nine doing dunks is probably going to have a better field goal percentage than shooters that doesn’t mean he’s a better shooter . I’ve noticed that, even though LeBron does have the accolades that we all said someone needs to have to be in the goat debate something about it just doesn’t feel special or real with LeBron, like it feels corporate and fabricated with him. It’s almost like he and Rich Paul sat down and made a list of what a player needs to have to be in the goat debate, but they figured out that no one ever said there was a specific way you had to go about getting those accomplishments. So they just sat down and figured out. What was the easiest full of accomplishments to get those accolades. Why we’ve never had another top player have ESPN, Fox Sports in the NBA working together to try to get him an All-Star team because they act like it’s his God-given right to win championships and it’s not fair if LeBron doesn’t have some super stack team. Why? If you’re going to make the argument, he’s better than Michael and Kobe then how come the way they figure it out is too hard for him?

Green is not SMART! HE IS DEFLECTING AND USING YOU TO DO IT AND DOES NOT KNOW WHAT TO SAY OTHER THAN BLAME YOU!!!

Kobe is just better then LaFlop period. Now yes it is true that LaBrick lasted a lot longer, scored the most points ever, average more rebounds, more assists, shot with a much better shooting percentage, but Kobe is just better. What are they putting in y’alls weed? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Mike and Kobe play in the triangle offense, it not a ball dominant offense so your asst most cases you won't have high asst numbers 5:16

Stats cant tell u everything about how good a player is or how much they controlled a game or affect the outcome of a game and the rebound thing is gonna be different for each player because if u are playing the 1, 2 or 3 you are suppose to be guarding perimeter so u only gonna get rebounds a lot if u dont play defense like Luka, Harden and LeBron for example the guard the worse scorer so they can rebound without worrying about gettin defense MJ and Kobe guard best players a lot so they cant focus on rebounding plus they played with elite rebounders like Shaq, Bynum and Gasol for Kobe and Dennis Rodman for MJ so u dont have to rebound as much playing with those guys and if u watched basketball in the past it was far less floor spacing so it was harder to score and MJ and Kobe both had 35+ pts per game seasons

You know what ? You just hit the nail on the head. Are we lowering the standard by bringing lebron in the debate ?

So many people have forgotten that Michael Jordan was coached by the best: Dean Smith Bobby Knight Doug Collins Phil Jackson Chuck Daily Mike Krzyzewski

I dont listen to these so called experts on tv because its becoming LeBron bias because if your objective towards LeBron james your a hater that is what i blame Shannon sharpe and nick wright their only that ive ever seen bring so much emotion that to me their not LeBron fans their more like groupies

Anybody that don't know kobe better than lebron don't know basketball and I wouldn't waste my time with them

I love hearing actual players remind us that Kobe had more skills then the rest of them. Paper stats.

If Jerry west won all the finals he went to we would be talking about him much different these days

Lebron gets 2 more rebounds with more possessions in today's game. Think about it more possessions more stats.. More reason why MJ is the GOAT, he built his stats with less possessions..

Whoever need proof just need to look at them play…

In some parts better than Mike Kobe’s barometer was Mike’s strengths

A lot of pro lebron are analysts that’s trying keep their career 🤑

SALUTE

The Miami point is never brought up enough. Miami was arguably the best version of LeBron, but he left bc he had the least control bc that franchise and Pat Riley don’t play the narrative game. And it speaks volumes that they’ve been to Finals multiple times since w/ way less after he left. If he was about winning as he speaks on so much, he woulda stayed there. But he goes elsewhere and tries to manipulate narratives and get “his” people in then plays passive aggressive blame games and get players traded and coaches fired when things don’t pan out. And that’s never brought up.

Kobe is better: For Lakers to 3peat, Kobe had to be a starter. For Lebron to win his first title, he had to run away to form a super team. Kobe stayed again when Shaq left and he won a double. Lebron ran away again when Kyrie left to form another team with AD in Lakers. Bron is the greastet mercenary in NBA history.

Jordan Was The Closest To Perfection, Plus He Had A Go To Move Like No Other. (Kobe) Was More Skilful Than Jordan & LeBron Though, Lebron Needs Super Teams Or Certain Players To Win. Jordan &.Kobe Did It With Pride & Determination, Lebron Is A Great Player But He Doesn't Make His Teammates Better. Lebron Makes.Too Much Excuses...

Who needed proof?

Kobe had flaws of trying to take over a game when it wasn’t time. He wouldn’t let the game come to him as stated by Phil. He was shooting them out of games sometimes. I forgot which finals it was but Kobe was shooting so much and missing that if pau gasol wasn’t there getting the rebound and finishing and fighting they would have lost.

Of course more players in that era would say that Jordan didn't have no weakness s he is not the only player to ever play in the NBA so put some respect on other legends names who started it before Jordan George Mikan to bob cousey to bill Russell to wilt chamberlain to Elgin Baylor to Dr j to the Iceman George gervin to magic to bird to Isiah Thomas to Kareem those guys also made history to and lebron is on that list to he changed the game to you say Jordan 6 rings lebron 4 rings Jordan six finals MVPs lebron four final MVPs Jordan five league MVPs lebron 4 league MVP Jordan two gold medals lebron 2 gold medals Jordan all star MVP lebron all star MVP Jordan defensive player of the year loss in the second round playoffs that year Hakeem olodjuwon did the same thing won the NBA finals show respect to the other greats guess what pippen is six and zero also to in finals

Kobe 24/7 better

I don’t feel Kobe is a 2.0 of Mike. Jordan was still stronger and faster than Kobe as well as jump higher and Jordan didn’t dribble as much to be flashy like Kobe said no wasted movement.

Jordan better than Kobe....PERIOD!!!

Yes but Jordan average more points than LeBron and Kobe especially when it counts and was better than them from three in the finals sorry

1.c? Not even close. Not even remotely close to being true.

I agree that Mike is the greatest player ever but who cares what Robert Horry says

What I don't get about LeBron when the cap held the record every body didn't think he was the greatest ever eather now LeBron got the record he feels he's the greatest ever because he has the record 😂😂😂😂😂 in won that one ring for as he say for 52 year's Clevelanddddddddd

As a young basketball player, what can Lebron teach me? But Kobe can teach me a lot. Offensive, Defensive, Mentality, footwork, fadeaway, the list goes on. Lebron can only teach me how to complain and flop. Let not even talk Mentality, Lebron has a loser Mentality.

I find it odd that passing the ball is considered a weakness. What is on paper is the facts, he most certainly did lose a lot of finals. 99% of the time is just opinion on who may be the goat.

Lebron James is the King of Turnovers. He is the first player in NBA history. to pass 5000 turnovers. He avg 3.5 turnovers per game.

Sorry to break the news. Lebron James is not top seven, he's not better than Larry Bird. He's not better than Magic Johnson, it's not better than a world champyou're a little bit cheerful, if you add context, you're making me a little further, but I'll just Settle for top 7. He's not at pizza shortcuts and his skill set is not as great as people would like to believe.

Michael Jordan The Greatest ever Period!!!!!! Kobe is number 8 on my top 10 all times list!!!!! Lebron is not on my TOP 10 LIST

Lebron keep passing the ball cause he cant shoot , do u think if he can shoot the ball like Mj and Kobe hes gonna pass the ball , no hes not…

MJ is the GOAT because with Nike, Micheal was God-like in the media, something that will never be replicated again.

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You don’t make sense so your saying the Chicago bulls weren’t a super team just because they drafted players but Toni kukoc in the hall of fame Scottie pippin top 50 all time Rodman still consider one of the best of all time defensively that shit don’t make sense

It's easily Jordan and Kobe the 2 best ever.

Lebron isn't even in the top 20

LeBron's flaws are free throws shooting defending being a team leader being a nice guy quit bitching and complaining and play basketball these are all his flaws and I forgot flopping he has no clutch Gene no IQ for basketball I can probably keep going but what's the point his entire game is flawed he has no character or class the total thing that makes the NBA suck in today's era he travels he fouls constantly and never gets a call so technically LeBron's game is a flawed

How in the hell can you put Kobe above LeBron when Kobe is 6-16 when they matched up head to head. That Mavericks team that beat LeBron SWEPT Kobe’s Lakers after they were coming off back to back championships, followed up by losing to an OKC thunder team with 10x more playoff experience than them and he loses 4-1.

Your numbers says nothing about what I've seen with my eyes . Numbers just sounds good but answers nothing

THE GREATEST LOSER OF ALL TIMES WALKS EVERY DAM GAME

MJ never played your best player. Scotty did. What are you talking about. Labron James is Scotty Pippen offensively

BEATING THE DETROIT PISTONS WITH RICK MAHORN IN THE PLAYOFFS WAS A WEAKNESS FOR MICHAEL JORDAN

Bro there is no proof that U can show that proves KB is better than LBJ... Now if U like KB style of play over LBJ style of play... Just say that and stop with the cap

So basically kyrie is better than Russ because he’s more skilled lol. The accolades is what separates legends from star players.

Saying Kobe is a replica of Jordan is like saying Dwayne Wade is a Replica of Jordan. Wade avg. more blocks, steals, rbds, higher shooting pct, yet Kobe is like MJ? Doesn't follow logic.

Y'all old heads tryna explain rocket science and can't accept that LeBron better than both of them. Y'all like to cherry pick using opinions and not facts. Give it up. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

People need to stop adding Kobe to the GOAT debate. Jordan, Wilt, Kareem Russell and Lebron GOATS. The rest are 2nd best. Honorable mention T Duncan and Hakeem on stats along. Kobe was not the total team player that Lebron, Magic or Bird was. Proof look at his finals appearances not always great. They others always played well in the finals

The Kobe who could not handle Raja Bell is better than Lebron???????? The Kobe who was defended so effectively by Raja Bell that the NBA had to tell the referees to start calling fake fouls on Raja Bell so that Kobe could score??????? Bull manure!!!!!!!

These people still don't get it I don't know if they're just brain dead blind or what when you are the greatest scorer in the history of the game why are we ignoring that fact we might as well throw those records out the door because apparently they have no value shag himself said if LeBron breaks the great Kareem record does that now make him the Goat and the guy said no and Shaquille just looked at him as though he was a complete fool Bill Russell has the most titles he should be the GOAT forget the era it's between Bill Russell and LeBron and only a fool would argue with their records

Men lie Women lie number don’t lie #GOAT JAMES

Jordan, LBJ, Kareem, Magic, Duncan, The Dream and Kobe in that order. Stop romanticizing Kobe

So making the finals is worst then not making it at all in Jordan case. Knock him more making it and praise another for not making the finals. Jordan fans 😂

Ridiculous. Kobe Stans are unstoppable. Lol😅That dude was a volume shooter who had a career low shooting percentage. He wasn’t even that great in “clutch time” (down by one or tied with less than 2 minutes). Stop y’all. RIP to Kobe, tho. Frfr.

Let me END this GOAT debate! Lebron made it to the finals in his 4th season while, Jordan was getting swept 🧹 out the first round his 4th season in the league. Jordan played against weaker competition at his own position with players like Craig Ehlo, Danny Ainge, Hersey Hawkins , Dan Marjele , Jeff Hornachek lmao and Drexler who couldn’t hold his Damm head up to dribble the ball lol. Ohh and Drexler was considered the 2nd best shooting guard of that era and now is Irrelevant as a top 10 shooting guard of all time. Jordan has never beat more then 2 HOF on one team and the best team he faced in the finals was Utah that guarded him with 6’3 Jeff Hornachek and A weak Byron Russell who would be in the G league if he played today lol. Jordan Stan’s don’t want to admit that he basically played isolation ball against weaker defenders, slow footed white guts , (no offense) but yeah and none athletic. Meanwhile, Lebron had to go against Durant, Kawhi,, Klay Thompson, iggy, Marion, Jimmy Butler in the finals. yes Lebron lost to a Dynasty Spurs team and then Lost to a Mavs team that has 5 former allstars in Caron Butler, Marion, Peja , J Terry, J Kidd and Lottery pick in Tyson Chandler and of course Dirk. Lebron played facilitator and allowed D wade to be the scorer in that series which was on the coaching staff not Bron. Lebron loses to the Spurs against that has 4 HOF in Parker, Manu, Kawhi& Duncan. Dwade was on his last leg literally with bad knees so Lebron left and went back to Cleveland. Lebron then lost to a loaded Warriors team without his 2 best players in Love & Kyrie and was up in that series 2-1 playing with mediocre players . Lebron Averaged a triple double in the series and was thought of to be the finals MVP on a losing team but media gave it to Andre for holding Lebron to 30 pt average lol. Warriors ran and got the 2nd best player in the league Durant to a team that won 73 games in the Regular season and Draymond admit that Warriors wouldn’t of won the championship without Durant because Lebron was too much. This would be like Olajuwon playing with Karl Malone in their primes to defeat Jordan. King James has had the most historical finals in nba history leading his team and the opposing team in every major statical category against a warrior team with Kevin Durant. It’s comedy that you stated that Lebron only averaged 2 more assist and rebounds lol that’s still more then what MJ did so yes that’s a flaw. Guess with all Lebron flaws he became the Alltime leading scorer and top 10 alltime in assists so Imagine if he didn’t have any flaws 😂

😂😂😂😂😂😂 lm laughing my ass off. Kobe Bryant rest in peace copied every move he could off jordan. 😂😂😂😂😂

Man down!!! MJ had no flaws LMAO... let's not talk about 3pt shooting 1st yr 9-52 (17%) 2nd yr 3-18 (16%) 3rd yr 12-66 (18%) 4th yr 7-53 (13%) please don't lie to these people... Also the NBA moved the line in closer for 3 years which helped MJs career makes and percentage go up!!! Give Kobe the same and his production goes up from 1827 to close to 2000 makes and flip side brings MJs 581 makes down to close to 400... MJ was trash from 3...

Kobe and Lebron played against each other for almost a decade. The record is Lebron 16 and Kobe 6. The record speaks for itself.