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Propane Generator Will Not Start - Feels Like Low Compression

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James Condon

James Condon

Күн бұрын

A local subscriber contacted me about this AllPower propane generator. Currently the engine will not start and it doesn't feel like there is much compression. Hopefully the engine is not junk. Let dig in and find out why this 13hp Jingdong Honda clone engine lost compression and with any luck fix it.
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@johnbourgeois1414
@johnbourgeois1414 2 жыл бұрын
I was watching this video and I noticed when you opened the valve on the propane tank you opened it all the way then turned it back clockwise a little and that can be a huge mistake, those valves are a double seated valve and if not opened tight can leak around the stem when a valve gets worn. I spent 20 years in the propane business dealing with millions of gallons every year so I know most everything that can go wrong of course not everything so I try when possible to help people divert dangerous situations. I enjoyed the video, God Bless and stay safe
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know. Someone told me once you never want to open it all the way. Never questioned that advice.
@tomtee4442
@tomtee4442 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not real sure about your comment. Is it okay to turn a propane tank valve one turn on without causing damage?
@johnbourgeois1414
@johnbourgeois1414 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomtee4442 If valve is perfect that might be ok but they are double seated and designed to either be closed tight or open tight so if your not opening it tight you should check for leaks which is actually recommended but in my 20 years in the propane business working with many thousands of valves probably less than 100 leaked when open tight so I guess if you would rather take a chance rather than take the time and effort to open them all the way that’s up to everyone. Good Luck and God Bless!
@douglaswindsor120
@douglaswindsor120 2 жыл бұрын
I wondered about this year's ago my aunt gave me a 30 pound aluminum propane tank my uncle had taken it off his camper because it leaked around the stem it was full so I wanted to use the fuel in it and I found it didn't leak when opened up all the way way tightly open now I know why
@scottschenk5456
@scottschenk5456 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Full open or full closed!
@SuperResa14
@SuperResa14 Жыл бұрын
Purchased this kzfaq.infoUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y after researching several brands.Reasons for picking this one was, dual fuel, I don't have to carry gasoline and stink up my truck bed!Propane is so much cleaner.Quiet 62 db, won't piss off neighboring campers!Less than 100 lbs, can lift in to truck bed.I can run my 30 foot Transcend 261BH, AC among other appliances.
@brewster3987
@brewster3987 2 жыл бұрын
6:23 "This should be an easy fix..." Me, looking at the video length - Wow, our man James has eternal optimism, doesn't he? 😁😆😅🤣
@sgtJOOSEcapeS
@sgtJOOSEcapeS 2 жыл бұрын
👋 y'all just know that having discipline, attention to details and patience will go along way ... James you're a good example of that🙋🏾‍♂️
@chrisssmallengines7163
@chrisssmallengines7163 2 жыл бұрын
The melted pieces that you found in the head might be from the push rod guide , some of them have plastic on the inside of the hole for the push rod . This probably means this engine got hot at one point . Great video as usual .
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 2 жыл бұрын
That is a good point. I had meant to mention that the style guide I pulled out usually has plastic around the cut outs.
@cjbowes998
@cjbowes998 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense to me, leaves in blower housing, valve cover gasket stuck to head, push rod guides melted, all adds up to a severe case of overheating.
@craigdalzell2908
@craigdalzell2908 2 жыл бұрын
i was about to say same thing . believe around the square holes they had plastic inserts on some engines
@craigdalzell2908
@craigdalzell2908 2 жыл бұрын
He does great videos , really coulda been a shop teacher
@Bulletman426
@Bulletman426 Жыл бұрын
That is exactly what it was! 👍
@JRattheranch
@JRattheranch 2 жыл бұрын
Did you notice James the the engine only fired up as you released the ignition switch, which made me believe that the switch itself might be faulty? Look at that little portion of the video to see what I mean! 👏👏
@leandrolaporta2196
@leandrolaporta2196 2 жыл бұрын
excellent video!, it surprised me that it can almost handle 6000W with propane, usually propane the most power you can get is 5000 if you are lucky, at least with the pressure that is used here. btw the other day a friend of mine call me, it's genny wasn't working right, i said: bring it over i talke a look, i fix it in 30 minutes like a pro, 2 years ago i had no idea how to adjust valves, deal with timming issues, clean carbureators, now i can do it, i still cannot believe it!, i learn everything in your videos!, thank you!.
@lv_woodturner3899
@lv_woodturner3899 2 жыл бұрын
Considering only the push rod guide needed to be replaced, this simple fix fought you all the way to get this running consistently. The Predator guide design is much better than the original. Glad to see another machine saved from the scrapyard. Well done.
@douro20
@douro20 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the Rato engines are a bit closer to Honda engines than the Jiangdong ones. The 302CC Predator is a Loncin V-valve engine which was designed with input from Cummins Power Generation and which is among the best Chinese engines. It probably also helps that Loncin is a motorcycle builder and has done work for BMW.
@Marauder92V
@Marauder92V 2 жыл бұрын
James - your videos are very therapeutic for us shade tree hacks. Your methodical approach is easy to follow and helps us wannabes at least attempt some of our own self repairs.
@petes8849
@petes8849 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. One suggestion tho. Clean the rust off the flywheel magnet before setting the gap. With the gap that wide before, the rust would act as shim when making the adjustment.
@alancombi6742
@alancombi6742 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree about cleaning the rust off the flywheel. I had a Moped many years ago that had not been used for a while when I got it the spark was poor. I cleaned the laminations up on the transformer and flywheel and that sorted it. You obviously know what you are doing on these machines and it's great that everyone rips off the Honda engine. That makes it easy to carry spare parts. Obviously probably not good for Honda unless they get a kick back.
@garyfishburn403
@garyfishburn403 Жыл бұрын
Amen
@mrpetit2
@mrpetit2 2 жыл бұрын
I like these videos better than the product reviews. I'm here for the diagnose process and fixing of small engines, I don't need a new generator (I live in western europe where the power never goes out)
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice to see the engine runs after the valves were fixed and jt makes power i like these episodes dont see propane generators much @James Condon
@markhilton1360
@markhilton1360 Жыл бұрын
I have been running a 10K All Power and had hard start issues. I will have to check the coil gap. Had problems with gas regulator freezing up in moist conditions until there is enough engine heat. Thanks for posting.
@mikesbarn1858
@mikesbarn1858 2 жыл бұрын
Just a suggestion. I use a piece of plate glass to check if push rods are true. I also use it with 1000 grit sand paper to face heads if I remove one.
@objection_your_honor
@objection_your_honor 2 жыл бұрын
I would buy a used generator from you anytime. An outstanding repair as usual. 👍
@jimanddiana4103
@jimanddiana4103 Жыл бұрын
ditto
@iandennis7836
@iandennis7836 6 ай бұрын
So would I.....if I lived in new England......alas, I reside in old Blight, 3000 miles away. 😢
@allotmentfornovices8256
@allotmentfornovices8256 2 жыл бұрын
So good to see a genuine very nice guy educating so many people in this way well done again my friend great work as always
@larrykelly2838
@larrykelly2838 2 жыл бұрын
Doc., another successful operation. This patient had several problems.
@justinvanaulen2478
@justinvanaulen2478 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Jim. I've seen the rod guides fail on LiFan engines before, even as brand new. Oddball items like random coil failures, recoil failure and inaccurate tolerance / low quality material issues often affect these Chinese made clone engines, especially if they are neglected. No issue if purchasing used at a very inexpensive price, but I wouldn’t recommend buying anything new that’s equipped with one of these and expect it to be long term reliable.
@jamesws3
@jamesws3 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Which is why I go with Honda on anything which matters.
@bertgrau3934
@bertgrau3934 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesws3 I seen where Honda is having some engines made in China.
@Jpilgrim30
@Jpilgrim30 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone’s having things made in China these days. I’ve had a predator generator for several years that has served me well and is still going strong. Some things made in China can be well made. Just depends on the cost it’s being built to per manufacturer demand.
@coreybabcock2023
@coreybabcock2023 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your videos I've learned how to do valves and everything else I got a 300.00 used 800 hrs on it wen 3800 inverter generator running better than ever I'll be making a video on it's status soon enough
@bluemoondiadochi
@bluemoondiadochi Жыл бұрын
I just want to give a shoutout to a guy who loves generators, and who also knows to make very engaging, interesting and educational 1h+ long videos. I love generators because they're so underappreciated; they're not flashy. they're not a status symbol. they're that quiet unassuming machine that got your back when needed. that's what I love about them.
@markmoran9716
@markmoran9716 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the new video. Because it ran once, it was confusing that it wouldn't start. This was a good example of troubleshooting.
@YukonHawk1
@YukonHawk1 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched so many of your videos that 8 of 10 times I can tell when an engine is running fast. Another great fix. 👍
@jme36053
@jme36053 2 жыл бұрын
Impeccable diagnostics. Thanks for bringing us along. A project is rarely completed without a little touch-up painting.
@tonywall8991
@tonywall8991 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still not happy with the starting issue. It still doesn't start easy enough for my liking. That said, you definitely know your stuff, and are an excellent mechanic. I really enjoy watching you work, and am learning a lot from you. Keep up the good work.
@blakefindlay1870
@blakefindlay1870 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how often engine related issues don't require new parts but just adjusting or cleaning. More often than not compression related issues seem to be valves need cleaning and adjusting due to not seating properly or in this case the push rod guide completely worn out. Great preventative maintenance, like you said it could've resulted in the destruction of the engine if that guide got any worse
@MrTonyPiscatelle
@MrTonyPiscatelle 2 жыл бұрын
I've been enjoying your videos. You really know your way around this equipment, and you are quite good at narrating yourself . Keep up the great content.
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Allpower generator That we ran for 4 straight days in an outage , ran great but not the fuel economy of a Honda or Yamaha .. Good fix James ! ENJOYED
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shawn
@ghettsumm7949
@ghettsumm7949 2 жыл бұрын
I will never understand why China would go thru all the trouble to clone a machine, and then cheap out on a 5 dollar part? Essentially, ruining their reputation. Thanks for showing us this video.
@YukonHawk1
@YukonHawk1 2 жыл бұрын
As the saying goes.....crap parts make for crappy machines.
@r8118830
@r8118830 2 жыл бұрын
All of the parts are cheaper and lower quality than those from a more expensive well built machine. James has compared a present day Chinese clone engine to engines built 30 years ago and the difference is striking. Chinese clones do not really have a reputation to save.
@davyarthurs
@davyarthurs 2 жыл бұрын
Buy cheap, buy twice
@George-mn4wf
@George-mn4wf 3 ай бұрын
Hi James, I am a recent subscriber, and I continue to enjoy your videos thoroughly! I know that you comment from time to time on matters of shop safety such as keeping CO levels down. I was interested to know what type of gloves you use. I know that my hands get scraped up etc. There are some chemical hazards too I need to avoid with work like this. I would enjoy more on your shop setup and the type of tools you use and general shop safety. Keep going! You are the first to capture my wife's interest on repair matters. Sometimes I ask her if she remembers something from your videos and she does! She and I both admire your calm methodical approach. Best to you and your family.
@bertgrau3934
@bertgrau3934 2 жыл бұрын
That was interesting, a pretty simple fix. I had a Murry mower that seemed like it was very low on power, I adjusted the valves, it made a big difference in power, felt like it never ran that good, about 30 minutes later it started smoking really bad. Then I noticed it was blowing oil all over. Took the engine apart, the top compression ring was broke in 2 places. And the piston was sloppy in the cylinder.
@stiggywatts4258
@stiggywatts4258 Жыл бұрын
Thanks James. Your videos are brilliant and a fantastic source to help us better understand our own generators 😃
@garyalensr
@garyalensr 2 жыл бұрын
You sir have an amazing amount of patience, also your skill to fix things is Absolutely awesome. I have learned so much from you because of your clear way of diagnosing issues. I want to thank you for that James. Keep up the awesome work and God bless you good Sir.
@dawn1berlitz
@dawn1berlitz 2 жыл бұрын
this kinda inspires me to try and locate a generator that has some issues to tyr and get going on my spare time and to have one ready incase of a power failure
@watermanone7567
@watermanone7567 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video: I have also seen a check valve in the propane tank not letting enough fuel supply to the engine. Took me a long time to figure out what was going on with it. Thanks for another great video.
@pootthatbak2578
@pootthatbak2578 Жыл бұрын
Re: check valve.. my propane guy showed me how to unstick that valve. Just pick up the tank about 6 inches and drop it on concrete or a sound rock. I got a fill up, took it home and the tank wouldnt work. I went back to the propane station and the nice man showed me the problem
@SHOINOFF
@SHOINOFF 2 жыл бұрын
Semi flat black looks good as well. Also i liked how the handles were hidden.
@lilgampla
@lilgampla 2 жыл бұрын
Go to your local trade school see if they can make a slightly thicker plate on cnc it gives the students a bit of experience
@YukonHawk1
@YukonHawk1 2 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion.
@cwradio4571
@cwradio4571 Жыл бұрын
One thing I like about your videos is, that you show the diagnosis’. Other just figure it out an do the job. This is much more interesting because I am diagnosing as you go.
@clintr485
@clintr485 2 жыл бұрын
When you noticed the oil leak at the valve cover and began loosening the hold down bolt the bottom of the gasket pulled back into the cover. Definitely was not seated on the head correct. Also I agree with others that what you pulled out was melted plastic from the pushrod guide plate. Awesome job as usual. 👍👍👍
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 2 жыл бұрын
That did not occur to me at the time. Definitely was the melted plastic.
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the nuts for the intake were stuck because the rocker dropped and got wedged @James Condon
@pg41226
@pg41226 Ай бұрын
Recently started watching your videos. Only watched the little Honda generators so far… this one is a bit easier to get access to 😂
@duanek9892
@duanek9892 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the investigation and resolution of the coil/spark problem.
@Texas4x
@Texas4x 2 жыл бұрын
I have learned so much from watching you and am now able to recognize so many issues before you mention what it is. Thanks so much!
@harveypaxton1232
@harveypaxton1232 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video. With Propane or Natural Gas engines with spark issues, I always replace the spark plug. I noticed in the video when you jumpered the electrode to ground, the spark was coming from the porcelain insulator.
@billhenry7833
@billhenry7833 Жыл бұрын
Great eye! I missed that and had to go back and check.
@miket7917
@miket7917 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I always enjoy watching your repairs. I wonder if ever considered including a decibel reading to let people know how loud each generator is. Thank you James for enjoyable and informative podcasts .
@brandonnolff1920
@brandonnolff1920 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this! I work in propane combustion. Great diagnosis. Suggestion tho- anytime you turn off a propane generator, close the propane tank to get all the propane out of the line. Sometimes a backfire will occur if not. Love watching your videos!!
@joepace33
@joepace33 Жыл бұрын
Hi James. You're one cool dude. Never gets flustered, never loses your cool, never give up...... I consider myself a calm guy, but there have been instances when I could see myself kicking a generator you were working on. And your attention to detail is commendable. I would buy one of your generators sight unseen in a heartbeat!!
@PaulCyclist
@PaulCyclist Жыл бұрын
I race engines the cap on the valve stem are called “lash caps”. They are used to protect the valve stem from ware. They are hardened steel. Perhaps on small engines like you have the do promote needed valve rotation but I’m not sure how. Anyway, just a quick share.
@hobtink
@hobtink 2 жыл бұрын
Never had an LPG engine so your comment about a smaller gap was definitely beneficial to me.
@hobtink
@hobtink 2 жыл бұрын
Smaller spark plug gap. Had never heard that before. While a lot of your videos, are often nothing new though some are they are all sound practical advice and re-enforcing on troubleshooting small engines, pretty much all gas engines large and small I find them all very good especially the generator problems. But you can’t make electricity from a gas engine if it doesn’t run. Are carbs and/or the LPG regulator to carb input on LPG engines subject to any problems
@kerrygleeson4409
@kerrygleeson4409 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video James thanks for sharing your knowledge 🦘👍
@stephenbridges2791
@stephenbridges2791 2 жыл бұрын
I worked for a large school district back in the early 80's that had about 4 buses out of a fleet of around 325 that were propane powered. To say they were temperamental would be a gross understatement. Although not the case here, I was never a big fan of propane as a substitute fuel. They would end up with some off the wall problem most often way out in the boondocks.
@hobtink
@hobtink 2 жыл бұрын
Before the EPA stepped in anyone could buy and install a propane conversion kit on their automobile. Engine oil stayed far cleaner far longer and generally less engine wear. Then it got to wear commercial LPG companies could not sell, install, service or fill customers auto LOG tanks. Engines that ran cleaner, polluted less Al because the engines emission systems were not geared to LPG. IM TALKING ABOUT large GM V8’s if the 60’s, 70’s, & 80’s that had minimal to no smog related items outside of the smog pumps of the 60’s and the catalytic converters. And they polluted far less in LPG than gasoline. Yep, that’s our government for you.
@regchapman3683
@regchapman3683 5 ай бұрын
Hi James thank you for all the work you Put in for us ,, I am a Newbie to your channel from Northern Ireland . Just on the point of propane powered engines .I. Used to run my cars on propane ,it is my experience they are harder to start.
@JefferyAshmore
@JefferyAshmore 9 күн бұрын
I ran a propane truck that ran on propane and you are right about starting harder, I winter had to use block heater.
@butler386
@butler386 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that non starting generator sure had me stumped. I figured it was a coil that was malfunctioning. But you figured it out and it sounds good for now. Great job once again. Thanks for all the videos.
@RustyNail5856
@RustyNail5856 2 жыл бұрын
That was a good one to keep you on your toes. but you fix it and it looks great, and run's great as well.
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 2 жыл бұрын
Blue is good, red is dead and yellow in between. I use an Oregon gap tester. If it does not look like a lightning bolt in the window - I replace the coil.
@DoyleShadduck
@DoyleShadduck Жыл бұрын
One man’s trash is another man’s treasure. Nice job on the filming!
@TK4619
@TK4619 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen that before, Thankfully the plates are widely available.
@cherylm2C6671
@cherylm2C6671 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not even a quarter of the way through and I like this. I had better not enjoy it too much since it's just a video, but the way you are presenting your work through the problems is really encouraging me to try this myself- and stick to it! Thank you for sharing your work!
@chuckprovenzano4957
@chuckprovenzano4957 2 жыл бұрын
I have this same generator. I purchased it in 2011 just after the Northeast experienced a snow storm around Halloween. We were without power for more than a week with that one. In late September 2020 it failed in the middle of another power outage (just under 2 days). It is the reason I subscribe to this channel. The cause for the failure was the coil. I had just 23 hours on the clock when it happened. Thanks for all the troubleshooting help.
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. That for the info.
@lpconserv6074
@lpconserv6074 Жыл бұрын
Very recent subscriber here. Content is first rate, and your attention to detail is well ahead of what anyone in the consumer side of things will expect. Going through your new as well as older videos. Learning a significant number of things. I am American, but retired and living the last 4 years in my new home in the Philippines. Power outages are common here at least weekly, sometimes multiple times per day when things are bad weather wise. I bought and installed an 8000W generator diesel powered, even before the roof was fully on and we had not even closed up all the windows... I have had maintenance on mine, and your content, as you say on every video, "I hope this helps someone out" is not in vain or lost on me here. I now feel much more confident with my own system. MANY things I have learned, too many to mention here. But MANY thanks, as I am quite weak on the electrical side of this machine...
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 Жыл бұрын
Good to hear. Thanks for the feedback.
@tomthumb-dv9uv
@tomthumb-dv9uv Жыл бұрын
The plastic you dug out of the head is the nylon around the holes in the pushrod guide. Merry Christmas Jim!
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Usually that type of valve guide plate has nylon around the holes. Thought is was strange that this one did not. Did not even recognize it as plastic at the time.
@mz10713
@mz10713 2 жыл бұрын
Always educational, I liked the green better,
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@GeevyLic
@GeevyLic 2 жыл бұрын
Hi James I watch you alot I saw a mouse jump out of that generator at 27.19 minutes pretty funny, he must have been in there while you were working on it. Thank You for your videos!
@var4248
@var4248 2 жыл бұрын
Saw the same! Wasn't sure if anyone else saw it too. lol
@freedomdog77
@freedomdog77 7 ай бұрын
Valve lash making that much difference in compression was a surprise
@fisshayemezgebu8858
@fisshayemezgebu8858 2 жыл бұрын
It is a Great job.That you testing-the problem stap by stap with-a knowledg.
@rogerhansen1314
@rogerhansen1314 2 жыл бұрын
good job, just goes to show you what persistance and profesionlism your the best!
@mjg263
@mjg263 2 жыл бұрын
Strange about that coil gap, wonder if it was like that from day one. Another great save!
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 2 жыл бұрын
It may have been. The coil did not look new.
@cliffpersaud1
@cliffpersaud1 2 жыл бұрын
I suggest you check for a faulty plug wire as well... cause you changed it's orientation a few times which could lead to an unreliable spark... Love yur videos 👍
@allpowercorp
@allpowercorp 2 жыл бұрын
A James Condon 1 hour video dropped! Time for popcorn! 🍿
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 2 жыл бұрын
It is one of yours. Need some green paint and a sticker to make it perfect again.
@julianlecircle815
@julianlecircle815 2 жыл бұрын
Treat yourself to one of those liftting tables so you are not on your knees!! Most enjoyable video.
@RiverratGoRVing
@RiverratGoRVing 2 жыл бұрын
Nice jod. Can you next time get into some of the working of the propane gas system. Where to check for failure and possibly rebuild. Tks, Michael.
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 2 жыл бұрын
Was hoping this one was a regulator issue. I did take a regulator apart in this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ft5-daZmtOCRYIE.html
@johncourtneidge
@johncourtneidge Жыл бұрын
Thank-you! What a great way for me to spend an evening!
@andrewgrace4410
@andrewgrace4410 9 ай бұрын
Nice clean up and troubleshooting James😊
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 2 жыл бұрын
Aww so coil wasn't bad just insufficient spark because of gap good to see it consistently starts now
@daleyurk4369
@daleyurk4369 2 жыл бұрын
Love this video. You might want to try a rust converter on some of those spots in the future. It turns the rust into a black surface that can be painted. Really look forward to your videos James. Nice job.
@r8118830
@r8118830 2 жыл бұрын
Rust converter is very good for smaller patches.
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 Жыл бұрын
My sister in law taught me this a couple of days ago. It works
@jeffbotkin1405
@jeffbotkin1405 11 ай бұрын
You have to open the valve on a propane tank completely and make sure it’s opened tightly in the counterclockwise direction. It seals in both directions. Your propane will leak out around the valve stem if you leave it to loose. It’s not safe to leave it loose. Ask me how I know. Great video as usual
@coreybabcock2023
@coreybabcock2023 2 жыл бұрын
Currently parked under a huge shade tree got my wen 3800 generator going and ac going watching this here in the van in Chantilly VA I love being out of my apartment
@davidtyndall8880
@davidtyndall8880 Жыл бұрын
I have the 7000 watt version. I got fooled when I bought mine, advertised as 10,000 watt but found out that was "max surge load" rating. The full load rating is 7,000 watts. I am using mine as a home stand-by generator, a few years ago it had to run for 4 days pulling a refrigerator, upright freezer and well pump plus a few lights, no problems. I will be checking the push rod guide plate on mine. 5.25.2023
@waynec3121
@waynec3121 2 жыл бұрын
great save on this generator
@JamesDeese
@JamesDeese 2 жыл бұрын
Learned so much in this troubleshooting process.
@er1073
@er1073 2 жыл бұрын
Another very much informative video James thank you. Who would of thought a .30 gap would work? Thanks James great video. Ed
@RC-fu6hg
@RC-fu6hg 2 жыл бұрын
Wow a propane unit. Nice find! That video was awesome. Thanks.
@vmaxride06
@vmaxride06 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this video professor , watching you trouble shoot is almost therapeutic :)
@mrobi5797
@mrobi5797 2 жыл бұрын
Good video James. I would have probably work around the decals when it came times to paint the rusted area. I would have placed some painting tape in a curve way to match the design, after removing the rust, and painted that area white to merge with the green/white decals. The decals makes the generator look good. It would have take less paint too, but it just me. At the end you did a great jod fixing it. Thanks for the continuous training you provide. It is much appreciated.
@jonwenger3584
@jonwenger3584 2 жыл бұрын
Not just you. I was very disappointed in the resultant black finish.
@danburch9989
@danburch9989 2 жыл бұрын
I had the exact same problem with the coil gap being too wide. Brand new pressure washer out of the box wouldn't start. No spark. Didn't want the hassle of boxing it back up for a return if I didn't have to (30+ mile round trip).
@tunercars3
@tunercars3 2 жыл бұрын
that thing is junk it takes way to long to start and the coil still needs replaced glad you somewhat fixed it and showed us
@travishall67
@travishall67 2 жыл бұрын
Ah... right at the end you said you weren't sure how the coil/flywheel gap got out of whack. I was going to ask you how it was running earlier with that huge gap in place. I'll read through the comments to see if anyone else has an idea of how that happened. Great video, thanks for sharing!
@JoshuaJonah
@JoshuaJonah 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the 'ole used car salesman Tremclad job haha. You really need a sandblasting cabinet James. I do the same thing to ATVs all day. One of my most important tools is a zinc and nickel plating rig. Fresh factory hardware really makes a big impression.
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 2 жыл бұрын
Need more tools and more space
@m9ovich785
@m9ovich785 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks James.
@venenareligioest410
@venenareligioest410 2 жыл бұрын
Bloody hell James, you must be healthy pulling that bloody starter like that 🥵
@johnbolongo9978
@johnbolongo9978 Жыл бұрын
Another great video ...I've learned more from James class than I did in high school auto.
@Dstromb232
@Dstromb232 Жыл бұрын
Great job! Nice to it comes back in use.
@DeadKoby
@DeadKoby 2 жыл бұрын
It's cool that you are able to start with what is essentially a basket case, and not end up throwing wrenches in a fury. I hath not the patience for that sometimes.
@KensSmallEngineRepair
@KensSmallEngineRepair 2 жыл бұрын
Loved everything about the vid except keeping that Torch Plug in there!
@m9ovich785
@m9ovich785 2 жыл бұрын
Torch Plug ??
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Rare to get one that sparks.
@zrkn1
@zrkn1 2 жыл бұрын
Considering it's a propane only generator, it has the power to hold its own. I was very surprised it held at 6000 watts, though I would never load it that high for long just as you mentioned. Nice pic up and resale item. I wonder how dirty the wave would be on that one.
@Jonas_Aa
@Jonas_Aa Жыл бұрын
A good tip on propane tanks is that you only open the valve like a half a turn so if something goes sideways you might have time to close it. Even a quarter turn will be good on a gas barbecue, but I do not know how much the generator needs in terms of flow.
@TaterPS
@TaterPS 2 жыл бұрын
Very good. You even cleaned its ears.
@phycling
@phycling Жыл бұрын
Could see the spark truoble in the video, arcing underneath. Look closely from the 35 minute mark. Suspect a faulty spark plug lead arcing out, hence the intermittent nature of the spark. Adjusting the coil gap help but I bet there will be more spark troubles in the future .
@wildefox1478
@wildefox1478 2 жыл бұрын
At least it was an easy fix with this one, just a bad push rod guide, nice work James!
@PabloDiablo682
@PabloDiablo682 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job James. Thats funny. I thought the green and black pull start looked better than all green myself. It's all just psychological but cleaning it up adds almost as much value to the generator as fixing it.
@jankamp8177
@jankamp8177 6 ай бұрын
James, im from the Netherlands and here ther are a lot of cars driving a car with PropaneThe only problem with that feul isthat it used more than gas, And if ther is a problem you need a real craftsman...All the best from Jan who lives into the Netherlands.
@deangentles4966
@deangentles4966 2 жыл бұрын
Hi James I always enjoy sitting in your class mate I have no experience on working on gas generators but nice to see you dealing with the problems so efficiently Thank you for sharing James
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dean. I bet you could fix one now after watching all my videos.
@deangentles4966
@deangentles4966 2 жыл бұрын
@@jcondon1 Hi James watching you work does get addictive I find myself talking to the screen trying to find the problem as you are working Sometimes I get it right too I enjoy your classes as you are a good teacher
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