Proper Way To Tie Off To A Dock Cleat

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7 жыл бұрын

Proper Way To Tie Off To A Dock Cleat
We get asked all the time, what is the proper way to tie off a boat to a dock. Well here you go.
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@daverwaverwoo
@daverwaverwoo Жыл бұрын
Retired Coast Guard Chief here. Excellent and concise instruction. We call wrapping the line in a circle a "flemish" or "flemishing". It helps to dry the line and looks sharp. You're a gifted mentor to the thousands of us who watch your channel. Great job! Semper Paratus!
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba Жыл бұрын
Hello David Canwell, thank you for the kind words. Thank you for your service in the Coast Guard as well. I know some of the Coast Guard members in Florida are probably working over time right now after Hurricaine Ian hit. We fully support all of our service members and truly appreciate their dedication and service to our county.
@Mr40tt
@Mr40tt 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You! You presented it very well, and I am just starting with my new boat, "Now I Know"! Captain Carpman
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr40tt, glad you liked our video and found it helpful.
@nopro5433
@nopro5433 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks just what I was looking for easy to follow Great Vid.👍
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, glad you liked our video.
@robertpoole91
@robertpoole91 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best. Very easily explained. 👍🏼
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert Poole, glad you liked it.
@diveinstructordaniel1095
@diveinstructordaniel1095 4 жыл бұрын
Quick and easy great video, great teaching style
@rell6837
@rell6837 4 жыл бұрын
Not lying, I literally looked up this video because my job is to dock boats, but I’ve never done one before, and I see a boat like 20 feet away coming in
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
There are many different ways to tie off a vessel. The method we showed in this video works amazingly well for our lake.
@masdbo
@masdbo 4 жыл бұрын
I was a dock master many years ago, no one knew how to tie a cleat knot. Still to this day, you can walk down any dock and will seldom see a proper cleat knot.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello masdbro, care to share your method with us.
@masdbo
@masdbo 4 жыл бұрын
@@LakeHickoryScuba Your cleat hitch was correct. If the boat has to be in that space with the bow near the dock, you had no choice but to tie more of a breast line. Of course generally the boat should be back 10 ft or so and the bow line would go forward and one would use the far side of the cleat. This is more desirable with tide changes especially without a floating dock.
@kevincherry6037
@kevincherry6037 3 жыл бұрын
how did it go
@johnwilliams2014
@johnwilliams2014 4 жыл бұрын
As always, excellent video and explanation, thank you
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome John Williams, glad you liked it.
@pv4548
@pv4548 4 жыл бұрын
Been boating for over 20yrs and I do the same process! Never failed me regardless of how long I was tied up or the conditions. Someone showed me this way when I got into boating and have always done it this way w/ much success. Sadly I rarely see many others do it this way. Although as some others have stated if it is a windy day I will go around once before the figure 8, but 9 out of 10 tens I've been fine w/o it. :-)
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello P V, like you we have never had an issue.
@harveylipshitz9996
@harveylipshitz9996 3 жыл бұрын
Short and to the point. Thanks for a very helpful explanation.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Harvey Lipshitz, glad you liked the video.
@elizabethrose8574
@elizabethrose8574 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. That helped a lot. We just boar a new boat and I'm learning to tie up to help my husband but I get nervous and it takes me a little time compared to others. I'm going to try it tomorrow when we go out.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Elizabeth Rose, hope it helps.
@greglenoir8363
@greglenoir8363 3 жыл бұрын
My brother owns the ‘Great Escape’ thanks for the good rope lesson.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you got an awesome brother. Hopefully he lets you ride it.
@willcole972
@willcole972 Жыл бұрын
This vid saved me on my new deck job duty for tomorrow
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba Жыл бұрын
Glad our video was helpful to you @willcole972.
@deanmacka4975
@deanmacka4975 4 жыл бұрын
Mate! That's a great tip , thanks mate
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Dean Macka, glad you liked the video.
@Duschbag
@Duschbag 4 жыл бұрын
Been tying up my Duck Boat all wrong for years... Now I know how to do it right. Thanks. 👍
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Warren Pouyer, glad you liked the video and found it helpful.
@nubetoob9292
@nubetoob9292 5 жыл бұрын
Good video. Thank you.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Nube, glad you liked our video.
@Jassman3536
@Jassman3536 4 жыл бұрын
Thats how I was taught except to loop it twice. Great tips. Thank You
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Jeff Jassby, glad you liked the video.
@jameswu2231
@jameswu2231 5 жыл бұрын
Speaking in great detail
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 5 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@eastbend99
@eastbend99 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you; this helps me a lot as a new boater. I've been tying loop after loop around the cleat because I really don't know what I'm doing lol. Also, kudos to you for being so gracious and brotherly loving to this guy in the comments that was in my opinion, way out of line with you. Very Christian, and a great example!
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 7 жыл бұрын
eastbend99 Your Welcome, glad this video helped. I've learned over the years that arguing over the internet is pointless. We all are in titled to our on opinion, and I respect everybody's opinion. I also believe their are more than just one way to skin a cat. What works for me may not work for all.
@tammyhacker3181
@tammyhacker3181 5 жыл бұрын
The word in warm weather is full wrap,,horn,,horn,,horn,,twist and lock
@halmain4468
@halmain4468 5 жыл бұрын
Great video
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hal
@Popareeno
@Popareeno 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Papa Reno G, glad you liked it.
@954jaydee
@954jaydee 4 жыл бұрын
I work as a first mate on yachts. I can honestly say that you tried the boat up right but you needed to put more slack in the line so that the bow is not sitting over the dock. If you get hit with some boat week you will do major damage to the boat the way it is sitting. Very good informative video on the proper way to tie a boat.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello John Darnell, glad you liked the video, and thank you for the advice.
@movieplanet3812
@movieplanet3812 4 жыл бұрын
great job
@Drew-eo2oj
@Drew-eo2oj 5 жыл бұрын
nice video showing the knot demo. Another vid shows using a daisy chain for the excess and I'd have to agree. That way, less of the line is exposed to the sun, and very little of it sits flat on the dock where it could sit in moisture.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 5 жыл бұрын
Thank You Andy P.
@terriachatz5904
@terriachatz5904 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks very useful!
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Terri Achatz, glad you liked the video.
@ronbeatty516
@ronbeatty516 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Ron Beatty, glad you liked it.
@CowboyJojosAdventures
@CowboyJojosAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Great tips 👍🏽
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Cowboy Jojo's Adventures.
@daze023
@daze023 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Thank you.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the video David Rutter.
@ericachappuis7477
@ericachappuis7477 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Erica Chappuis.
@charlesclements4350
@charlesclements4350 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clearing that up for me. I kept on getting confused on which way to twist the line. Any advice on "spring lines"?
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Charles Clements, Springs Lines are a great additional tool that can be used to lock a vessel in place at the dock. Here on our lake, we don't really have to concern ourselves with them based off our body of water and the lack of movement compared to the ocean. The biggest thing to consider with a Spring Line is, make sure they are long enough. Here is a great video from West Marine explaining the lengths that are the most useful. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oMV9nax11bqVc6M.html
@charlesclements4350
@charlesclements4350 4 жыл бұрын
O.K., thank you.
@davidblezard
@davidblezard 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video. A good thing to mention that the bow line should be about a foot shorter than the boat. Keeps it up of the prop.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
You make a great point David B. Thanks for sharing.
@pookatim
@pookatim 4 жыл бұрын
Bravo Zulu. When you create that "circle" with the line is is called "flemmishing" the line.
@dustydorsey1751
@dustydorsey1751 4 жыл бұрын
Or a half Hitch
@mikehinds740
@mikehinds740 3 жыл бұрын
@@dustydorsey1751 I believe that you're mistaken. A half hitch is a type of knot and has nothing at all to do with how he tidied up the extra line. Are you referring to the cleat knot he made? Because that's not what the comment was about if you read it more carefully.
@325af2
@325af2 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome 325 AF
@spudsmith
@spudsmith Жыл бұрын
Thanks, great video! Novice question though: What knot do you use for the end of the rope that's attached to the boat cleat?
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba Жыл бұрын
Hello Spud Smith, glad you liked the video. The dock lines that we use, have a loop on one end. So, most of the time we use just a simple girth hitch over the cleat. We stick the loop though the bottom of the cleat, and then wrap it around the ears.
@Jtown1ification
@Jtown1ification 4 жыл бұрын
Leaving a little rope cinnamon roll for the lake gods to keep the boat safe.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
I guess so, I have never heard it called a rope cinnamon roll before.
@seikibrian8641
@seikibrian8641 4 жыл бұрын
Revisiting this video after a few years: There's currently a debate going on about whether or not to finish the cleat hitch with a locking turn. Especially in Britain, the current "best practice" advocated by some is to do a full wrap around the base of the cleat, then the figure-eight, followed by another loop around the base. They call it the "OXO method." It's possible, according to the OXO advocates, for a hitch with a locking turn to jam under load, making it hard to release in an emergency. Frankly, I've been using the method shown here for more than 50 years and never had a problem, but I just thought I'd pass it on.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info SeikiBrian. To us, it all depends on location, and environmental conditions.
@seikibrian8641
@seikibrian8641 4 жыл бұрын
@Kaptain Kid "you are absolutely correct for ANY part of the world. Seamanship is not nationalisitic." When I said "Especially in Britain" I was referring to current recommended practice, not what works or doesn't work. Seamanship IS often "nationalistic" when it comes to what is or is not being taught. One need look no further than the British and Americans continuing to use "tiller orders" long after the adoption of the wheel, when other maritime nations had standardized on "rudder orders." (Britain changed over in 1933, and the US changed in 1935.)
@alexpineiro7960
@alexpineiro7960 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that. There's always another way and an open mind is a healthy thing. Never could stand those who act pompous with their knowledge and then are quick to insult others for not doing their way. Sadly no shortage of those on the docks. I appreciate you.
@richardmiller6604
@richardmiller6604 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Richard Miller
@randallgayman6639
@randallgayman6639 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!!!!
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome Randall Gayman.
@nordemoniac
@nordemoniac 4 жыл бұрын
Usually here we do a full round, overlapping the line going to the boat as well. That creates more friction, and locks it better. The one demonstrated here is usually only when filling fuel f.ex.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Glenn Jacobsen, thankfully, we have never had any issues doing it this way.
@johnw2348
@johnw2348 3 жыл бұрын
@@LakeHickoryScuba But it is wrong!! A round turn is a round turn and you did not complete it. It might work for a small boat but a bigger boat would pull it through.
@percivalgooglyeyes6178
@percivalgooglyeyes6178 3 жыл бұрын
With that much extra line, it would be a perfect opportunity to also use it as a spring line. Oh, and it called a Flemish coil.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
You make a great point. On our lake and for smaller vessels its not really needed, but for much larger vessels, the spring line is a great idea. And you are correct, it is called a Flemish coil.
@wowthisislame3
@wowthisislame3 10 ай бұрын
@@LakeHickoryScuba Having a spring line keeps the boat parallel to the dock, and ensures any dock to boat impact is shared between all fenders, not just the midship one.
@user-kf4xb5mf5j
@user-kf4xb5mf5j 8 ай бұрын
Fun! Cool looking! But he could lash the cleats faster if he just walked up to them😂🎉
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 8 ай бұрын
Hello @user-kf4xb5mf5j, glad you liked the video.
@shawnskiver1341
@shawnskiver1341 2 жыл бұрын
Just curious if you have ever done any diving on lake Jocasse in upstate SC ?
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Shawn Skiver, we have done a ton of diving in Lake Jocasse and Lake Keowee. The pump house in Lake Keowee is one of my favorite dives, plenty of penetration at moderately shallow depths. As far as Lake Jocasse, the Mt. Carmel Church / Grave Yard, and Jellyfish Hill are probably my favorites there.
@claudeyarborough7532
@claudeyarborough7532 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like a bulls bay 2200? If so, how do you like it? I am in the process of purchasing one right now actually!
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 5 жыл бұрын
This boat belongs to one of our Instructors. It serves its purpose and performs flawlessly.
@josephkrowski6753
@josephkrowski6753 4 жыл бұрын
What about when the dock set up has the cleat on the boat are not parallel to one another but staggered by four to six feet
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
By creating the V, as stated in the video, it helps keep the vessel in position. Great question Joseph Krowski.
@bradybird9572
@bradybird9572 2 жыл бұрын
It’s 2am, and I don’t even have a boat. Why am I watching this.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Brady Bird, we don't really have an answer for you. However, we thoroughly appreciate your viewership.
@Supermanwithatan01
@Supermanwithatan01 3 жыл бұрын
This might be a dumb questions, but what is the know to tie it to the cleat on the stern or bow? I’m renting a boat (my first time driving one) and we’ll be going to an island requiring me to dock. Any pointers would be much appreciated!
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Supermanwithatan01, tying up a boat with a little practice is pretty simple to do. Typically, here on our lake, a simple line from the bow cleat and stern cleat is all that is needed. On larger vessels, or in larger bodies of water, a spring line from the side of the vessel is ideal.
@rdam771
@rdam771 4 жыл бұрын
Full round turn around the base and three figure 8's. A cleat hitch is unecessary and will get jammed under the right conditions (Heavy weather surging, ice, etc.). The eye on the boaw cleat should tension at the base, not the horns.
@seancurran-cross9015
@seancurran-cross9015 3 жыл бұрын
We really out here on boat knot KZfaq
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Sean Curran-Cross, hope our video helps.
@masdbo
@masdbo 4 жыл бұрын
It's called "Flemishing" the line when you coil the excess.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
That would be correct
@johnkerr7042
@johnkerr7042 4 жыл бұрын
"cheesing" in UK & navy ! :)
@trevorrabey736
@trevorrabey736 4 жыл бұрын
Keep both ends and all of the extra line on the boat. Cleat on the boat, not on the dock. The half hitch at the end is unnecessary and prone to jamming so tight that it can't be undone. On larger yachts, on halyard and sheet cleats, the half hitch is forbidden. One full turn, one figure 8 and two full turns on top is all that's needed.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Trevor Rabey, we have had a different experience than yours. Happy Boating.
@SurfCityVideo
@SurfCityVideo 5 жыл бұрын
Some real rocket science there.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 5 жыл бұрын
Not real sure if its rocket science, but it works. LOL
@treebs9516
@treebs9516 3 жыл бұрын
If a boat drives past and causes wake it looks like your boat would hit and Bang on top of the Jetty how would you avoid this?
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
Hello treebs, we use bumpers on our docks and vessels. The helps protect from any damage.
@NytronX
@NytronX Жыл бұрын
What is the name of coiling the rope like that in a spiral? The navy calls it a certain name, I forget what it is.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba Жыл бұрын
Hello @NytronX, the end tail is FLEMISHED.
@MrRafterPL
@MrRafterPL 6 жыл бұрын
Main rule is to have just few inches more of the rope after tying Cleat Hitch. All the rope should be on boat. 3:17 might be danger for people walking next to boat.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 6 жыл бұрын
MrRafterPL Thank You for watching our video and commenting
@user-tv5ox2sn6v
@user-tv5ox2sn6v 4 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right. Never hope anyone helps outside
@jerrynordland2019
@jerrynordland2019 Жыл бұрын
One more thing: OWN your dock lines unless you're at your destination and leaving the dock. For short stays, connect the line to YOUR deck cleat , then pass it to the dock. Have the simple connection on the dock such that you can release it from your boat. A simple loop around a cleat or bit or piling is all you need. Then lead the bitter end back to your boat and secure it to YOUR cleat again. This way you are never dependent on having someone on the dock to release your lines. You never know what kind of crazy knot they will fashion that you will need to undo. Especially if you need to leave the dock in a hurry, such as an approaching storm.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba Жыл бұрын
Hello Jerry Nordland, thank you for sharing your thoughts with us.
@megasonify4800
@megasonify4800 4 жыл бұрын
My boat came with chock cleats (open cleats that angle) on the bow and stern. Can you tell me how to use these? Seems like the rope will slip right out of them.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Chocks are not meant to be tied to. They are basically a line guide. For instance, you may have a bow light in the middle of your boat and you would have a chock on each side to guide the line away from it.
@megasonify4800
@megasonify4800 4 жыл бұрын
Makes perfect sense. Thanks for solving!
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Your're welcome.
@rzambory2938
@rzambory2938 3 жыл бұрын
awright.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
Hello R Zambory, hopefully our video helped you out.
@donmunro2914
@donmunro2914 4 жыл бұрын
no need for locking hitch, agree with the vee, but then go around once, O, cross over twice, X, then all around once again O and cinch tight, easy to remember OXO
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Don Munro, we really haven't ever had an issue with the locking hitch.
@nevillecottee7629
@nevillecottee7629 3 жыл бұрын
An excellent presentation. However, professionals hate locking hitches. Your video is good. Still, it may be wise to include what maritime colleges teach.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Meville Cottee, we host several boater education courses yearly through the North Carolina Wildlife Resource Commission, and they all teach this method. Coast Guard standards do not apply on our water, as we have non navigable water ways.
@nevillecottee7629
@nevillecottee7629 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for replying. You are quite right; for small boats, a locking hitch won’t jam with enough turns underneath it. Cheers.
@nathanjones3323
@nathanjones3323 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the bow could wind up riding on the dock if the wind picks up.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 2 жыл бұрын
Thankfully, we have never had that problem Nathan Jones.
@j.richard2059
@j.richard2059 4 жыл бұрын
The cleat hitch itself wasn't bad for a short stay, but if you tied my boat up like that, the first thing I would do is retie it!
@dauntrl
@dauntrl 3 жыл бұрын
anyway you can link me to the best video you have seen on these?
@dauntrl
@dauntrl 3 жыл бұрын
i'm new to this and looking for the best method
@pierresiquet9978
@pierresiquet9978 4 жыл бұрын
And once you pushed your boat back, your "V" became something else. i.e. does not matter V or not in your case. Even better not to cleat it at more than 30 degrees to prevent it from moving back and forth. Same for aft cleat.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Pierre Siquet, thankfully, we have never had any issues doing it the way we showed in the video.
@JDRTRM
@JDRTRM 5 жыл бұрын
Or throw the excess rope in boat and cover up. Rope gets wet if it rains ..
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 5 жыл бұрын
Here on our lake, ropes always get wet.
@JDRTRM
@JDRTRM 5 жыл бұрын
LakeHickoryScuba I’m saying if your docked for days .
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 5 жыл бұрын
I understand.
@AndyMillerPhotoUK
@AndyMillerPhotoUK 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you demonstrated the proper way !! So WHY don't folk use it? If you are required to share cleats then hogging the cleat by over rapping is selfish. That said if overnighting you might wish to add one more hitch.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy Miller for the comment. Here at our docks, boaters have their own slips and cleats.
@NytronX
@NytronX Жыл бұрын
The audio is like 10% of the loudness it should be.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba Жыл бұрын
Hello @NytronX, sorry the audio quality was so low on this older video. Hopefully, our audio has gotten better over the years.
@blewyd
@blewyd 5 жыл бұрын
Try that cleat on a boat larger than 29 feet. Not going to be strong enough. I usually do a few figure eights and then rap around the cleat as a lock
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 5 жыл бұрын
Hello blewyd, sorry to hear that you haven't had luck with your vessel. We have not had any issues here on the lake dock larger vessels using this method.
@blewyd
@blewyd 5 жыл бұрын
@@LakeHickoryScuba oh my vessel is in New York City on the Hudson River where there are many other boats, and tides so to get the lines really secure, we have to use stronger knots. I get it if you are on a lake. I did not realise.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a busy place
@KarlstadDrums
@KarlstadDrums 5 жыл бұрын
blewyd If you are in a farily well protected harbour i don’t think you’d need a much stronger knot than a cleat hitch(Unless you boat is over 40 feet or so), but i would make a stronger cleat than this. I always do a full wrap around the cleat and not a 3/4 wrap like in the video, then a figure 8 and then lock it up, works fine for me even in windy conditions at my unprotected dock:)
@TOMVUTHEPIMP
@TOMVUTHEPIMP 4 жыл бұрын
Figure 8s and a wrap around? Hahahaha!!!
@bennychasan
@bennychasan 4 жыл бұрын
First of all if you have been around boats you will know that it is not called a rope, ropes are used on land. In the marine world it is referred to as a line.
@throngcleaver
@throngcleaver 3 жыл бұрын
A rope is a rope, until it's made into a line, by either attaching it to the boat or a boat part, such as an anchor. Every line has a proper name.
@michaelambrose
@michaelambrose 3 жыл бұрын
What about the back end?
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
The same would apply Michael Ambrose.
@karlomarkovic3278
@karlomarkovic3278 3 жыл бұрын
Aka a half wrap
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Karlo Markovic, we encourage boaters to use which ever method works for them.
@csicrawlspace
@csicrawlspace 4 жыл бұрын
Boats are "tied up" with "lines" not ropes. Rope comes on s spool, lines are purpose-specific lengths of rope.
@Mr02sunfire
@Mr02sunfire 4 жыл бұрын
ok boomer
@csicrawlspace
@csicrawlspace 4 жыл бұрын
Back at ya "6 packer"!😁
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Robert Castle, kind of reminds me of the old question, "Why do we drive on a parkway but park on a driveway?" LOL
@lobsterworldwide
@lobsterworldwide 4 жыл бұрын
Lol coiling the rope up like that is 100% to let other boaters know that you know what you’re doing
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Yes Sir.
@Graimthu1
@Graimthu1 6 жыл бұрын
What is demonstrated is a half cleat hitch, only good for temporary use, like at the gas dock, as it can loosen. A full cleat hitch is much better. See m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eKihpqlol96yg4k.html
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 5 жыл бұрын
This boat is gonna hang if you get a tide haha. Bow line is way too short.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 5 жыл бұрын
I guess its a good thing we don't have tides in the lake.
@TOMVUTHEPIMP
@TOMVUTHEPIMP 4 жыл бұрын
I like how the guy who does not know the difference between an ocean and a lake is giving advice. LOL.
@billrichardson1506
@billrichardson1506 3 жыл бұрын
I would feel remiss not to point out that the excess stern line is not coiled neatly to “let other boaters know that you know what you are doing...”
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
But it does look cool Bill Richardson. LOL
@jawhitak
@jawhitak 4 жыл бұрын
Rope? On the water it is called line!
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello jawhitak, I've always wonder things like, why do we drive on a parkway, but park on a driveway? Its just weird.
@MayflowerTrust
@MayflowerTrust 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly, you failed to place a full round turn. It was only half a round turn. A full round turn will do as it says: round the cleat or bollard fully, and is more secure than your half turn. Perfect way to tidy line after, though. Yet, you will end up with quite a twist when you recover that line. Laying it from above will NOT put a twist in, and, therefore, is instantly ready for use.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Wave and Stray, thanks for watching our video and commenting. Thankfully, we have never had an issue here on our lake doing it this way.
@johnw2348
@johnw2348 3 жыл бұрын
@@LakeHickoryScuba If you are doing a video, get it right.
@tedwalford7615
@tedwalford7615 2 жыл бұрын
His cleat tie was exactly correct, as is. Check authoritative references.
@Plufis1
@Plufis1 6 жыл бұрын
That may work for warm water Lake lizards, try that in February up here in Maine and you're gonna see Why we don't put a locking hitch on to the cleat. The proper way as trained by the US coast guard is one full round turn ( by the way you did not take) 3 figure 8 followed by a final full round turn to lock it in place. That allows you to not have to scoot your fingers anywhere near the Cleat In high winds or when the damn line is frozen. Nice video for recreational boaters but making the statement that it's the proper way really doesn't take into consideration how the rest of the world Works.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 6 жыл бұрын
Plufis1 Thank You for watching our video and commenting.
@ro4317
@ro4317 6 жыл бұрын
You are completely wrong. The full round not only locks but can jamb the line. I find it hard to believe that the Coast Guard suggests that.
@lubberwalker
@lubberwalker 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right Plufis1. AND here the original post would be regarded as anti-social. In the UK (on a floating pontoon) most people bowline loop at the dock and tie off on a cleat aboard the yacht with an 0800 and maybe a cleat hitch to finish if it's not winter. Spare line is coiled on the boat and safe from 3rdparty tripping on the dock. The dock cleat is often shared by adjacent boat lines....easy with loops, fed up under existing line/loops so that leaving can be in any order. Completely impossible with the mess of line you have left on the dock cleat. KZfaq's Captain Bob's Whatnots demos this in about 30 seconds. Leaving we prepare, and set lines to slip 1st...so thru (or around) the dock cleat with both ends led to a cleat aboard. The shortest bitter end on the cleat last and this short end is then slipped from aboard, thus minimising snarl ups at the cleat and rope in the water for propwrap. Calling one method the "proper way" lines you up for a fall lad. It's just "A" way.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 6 жыл бұрын
Thank You for you insight.
@railroad9000
@railroad9000 4 жыл бұрын
No locking hitch. It can and will freeze solid in cold weather.
@okiedokie99
@okiedokie99 4 жыл бұрын
Our docks dont have cleats 😂
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Earth Solutions, that would definitely throw a hiccup in the matter.
@slicelifetv
@slicelifetv 5 жыл бұрын
Best easiest way is to use a Looprope or a BuoyRope
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 5 жыл бұрын
What ever works for the individual boater, then that is what he should use.
@slicelifetv
@slicelifetv 5 жыл бұрын
If it’s a cruise ship then use something stronger than a looprope of course lol. If it’s any type of boat smaller than a cruise ship it works like a charm.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 5 жыл бұрын
We don't see too many cruise ships on the lake. Although, that would be awesome if we did.
@stevelabranche6119
@stevelabranche6119 3 жыл бұрын
Informative, but, There is no Rope on Boat. It's called a line.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Steve LaBrache, thanks for watching the video and commenting. Its interesting you say that, according to the packaging the Lines / Ropes came from state they are called Dock line, made from Nylon Rope. We also sell Tow Ropes that attach to a vessel as well.
@sceptik_crew7561
@sceptik_crew7561 4 жыл бұрын
The volume is low
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry about that Theodor4Life, hopefully our recent videos have better audio quality.
@bigg490
@bigg490 3 жыл бұрын
cannot hear you
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry Ian G. Hopefully the audio has gotten better in our current videos.
@IBDL_adventures
@IBDL_adventures 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, good information for the tying but who has time in this world to be making little circles with a rope. not me at least.
@stephencrutchfield2032
@stephencrutchfield2032 4 жыл бұрын
That thing ain't going no where
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
So far it hasn't.
@alexpineiro7960
@alexpineiro7960 Жыл бұрын
Much too complicated to explain the simple. Forget the V thingy. Also wrapping the line in a coil on the dock..Flemish Flaking...is actually considered bad form, because 1. line does not dry out properly, and 2. dirt/debri from lines will leave marks on the dock. Better to not have a bunch of extra length on your tag line to start with
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us Alex Pineiro.
@chrisg5683
@chrisg5683 3 жыл бұрын
Lets let the bow hit the dock while were at it, smh
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
Why stop there, I think we should flip it upside down and sink it. It would make a great dive site. LOL.
@MemoryLaneCinema
@MemoryLaneCinema 6 жыл бұрын
The best way is to take the knot back to the boat cause then you can untie the knot while on the boat.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input.
@paulaguido2099
@paulaguido2099 6 жыл бұрын
MemoryLaneCinema I
@omnifold2005
@omnifold2005 Жыл бұрын
That's not a complete round turn.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba Жыл бұрын
Hello Michael vass, sorry to hear that you disagree with video. Nevertheless, thank you for sharing your thoughts with us.
@stuartmuir8366
@stuartmuir8366 3 жыл бұрын
There are no ropes on a boat.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
Possibly. Thanks for commenting Stuart Muir.
@mrmidnight32
@mrmidnight32 7 жыл бұрын
Proper way according to who? 15 years as an angler and 10 years working for the US navy says other wise to your tie down. Not to mention your "proper" technique isn't any different than the common way to tie down. You just deleted the secondary loops but yet yours is stronger? Your logic makes 0 sense
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 7 жыл бұрын
Thank You for watching our video and commenting. Also Thank You for your service in the military.
@joenarb
@joenarb 7 жыл бұрын
Where is your video?
@mrmidnight32
@mrmidnight32 7 жыл бұрын
joenarb don't need to make one. There are several great videos who illustrate the proper way to tie down. I just wanted to point out this is not the proper tie down technique. By that I reference basic boating and the navy standard for sock line ties. They usually know a thing or 2 about boating.
@sarahann530
@sarahann530 5 жыл бұрын
CK_32 Were you in charge of tying up those big grey boats to the cleats ? You must have been special to get that job
@blewyd
@blewyd 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. You are so correct. Thank you for your service. Mad respect for you and other soldiers.
@peterhinton3352
@peterhinton3352 4 жыл бұрын
NOT the way to tie up a boat!!!!!!
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Peter, sorry to hear that you did not like our video. Nevertheless, thank you for watching it and commenting. Each view and comment we get supports us financially. Thanks again.
@peterhinton3352
@peterhinton3352 4 жыл бұрын
@@LakeHickoryScuba The proper way to tie up any boat is by using a bowline or large eye splice to secure to the mooring line to the cleat or bollard
@WarthDader74
@WarthDader74 4 жыл бұрын
@@peterhinton3352 No, that is wrong
@peterhinton3352
@peterhinton3352 4 жыл бұрын
@@WarthDader74 No that is the correct way. It allows other boats to use the cleat/bollard without the need for you to untie them if you wish to cast off. It also keeps your rope on your boat. Watch any commercial boat tie-up with an eye splice or Bowlin
@peterhinton3352
@peterhinton3352 4 жыл бұрын
@@WarthDader74 I refer you to a booklet "Seamanship Notes" by Kemp and Young which states," When it becomes necessary to put a mooring line onto a bollard already occupied, the eye of the line should be taken up through the eye of the line already there before placing over the bollard. Thus ensuring when the time has come to cast off either line can be released.
@tswain5469
@tswain5469 4 жыл бұрын
If you've bought or even rented a boat and don't know how to tie it, you should be on land.
@eddieseymour9948
@eddieseymour9948 4 жыл бұрын
Get a mike so we can hear you first before educating people!!!
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Ronelle Evans, sorry you couldn't understand me in the video. Thanks for the comment though, it supports us in so many ways.
@5elevendesignz511
@5elevendesignz511 4 жыл бұрын
You mean mic? As in microphone? I had no trouble hearing him.
@mikehinds740
@mikehinds740 3 жыл бұрын
@@5elevendesignz511 We knew what he meant and the volume was very low relative to just about every other video I watch.
@jayytee8062
@jayytee8062 5 жыл бұрын
Why can't i just use a carabiner clip instead of this crap
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Jayy, Thank You for watching our video and for the great question. You can use any system that you feel is appropriate. There are always more than one way to skin a cat.
@TOMVUTHEPIMP
@TOMVUTHEPIMP 4 жыл бұрын
A carabiner clip? Hahaha.....really?
@stuarthiern-cooke6619
@stuarthiern-cooke6619 4 жыл бұрын
@@TOMVUTHEPIMP Carabina would only be at a fixed point on the line . Every mooring differs according to where the cleats are on the pontoon ,and riverbanks you might need to fix stakes into bank . doing a tie as the video shows is traditional way. Although this rope mooring shown is not totally correct method,it's good enough to hold the boat securely. ( sorry this was answering Jayy Tee 's question)
@871jamie
@871jamie 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah because I want to spend that much time of my boating day rolling up the rope, GTFO!
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello 871jamie, sorry to hear that you did not like our video. Nevertheless, thank you for watching it and commenting on it. Each view and comment we get supports us financially. Thanks again.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Kaptain Kid, thanks for commenting, it supports us in many ways.
@richardstevens5961
@richardstevens5961 3 жыл бұрын
It took 45 seconds to roll up the rope. That’s too much for you?
@jonathansimmonds5784
@jonathansimmonds5784 4 жыл бұрын
It is so sad to see the blind teaching the blind. That is not the correct way to moor a boat to a cleat, I'm not even going to try to correct you because the whole thing is wrong right from the get-go.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Jonathan Simmonds, sorry to hear that you did not like our video. Nevertheless, thank you for the comment. It supports us financially with each comment we get. Thanks.
@jonathansimmonds5784
@jonathansimmonds5784 3 жыл бұрын
@@LakeHickoryScuba So, you're fraudsters eh? Putting out incorrect information and still profiting from it? Shame on you and all who fall for your incompetence mooring a boat.
@ciaraadams4304
@ciaraadams4304 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s not the proper way to tie about u do not put one figure 8 an 1 half hitch if a shrimp boat comes by u u will not get the half hitch off always have a towing an a backing 3 figure 8 an thin a half one figure 8 will Pull slack an catch half hitch guy need to find a new job
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Ciara Adams, thankfully we don't see many Shrimp Boats on our lake.
@ciaraadams4304
@ciaraadams4304 4 жыл бұрын
Lol a wake board boat come but with 12 gallons of water in the balac tanks it will suck a boat 4 feet off a dock
@iangardener3464
@iangardener3464 3 жыл бұрын
SHIT AUDIO
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Ian Garener, sorry to hear that you did not like our video. Nevertheless, thank you for watching and commenting.
@nevillecottee7629
@nevillecottee7629 3 жыл бұрын
If you put a hitch on a cleat during a maritime test, you will fail. A professional seaman might lose his job if he did that. See “coastguard boating education”.
@LakeHickoryScuba
@LakeHickoryScuba 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Mevill Cottee, we have had a different experience. Thanks for the comment though.
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