Prostate Cancer Treatments | Eugene Kwon, MD | DIY Combat Manual for Beating Prostate Cancer: Part 3

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Dr. Eugene Kwon of the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota is a physician who defies categorization. While he is considered a urologist, his skills go far beyond surgery and into imaging to immunology. Here, he presents his "DIY Combat Manual For Beating Prostate Cancer" with a special emphasis on imaging for prostate cancer.
To see Dr. Kwon's full talk and Q&A, and to see radiation oncologist Michael Steinberg, MD, speak on radiation therapy, visit the Day 1 video of our Prostate Cancer Patient Conference here: • 2021 Prostate Cancer P...
To watch pathologist Jonathan Epstein, MD speak on prostate pathology and medical oncologist Tonya Dorff, MD, on treatments for advanced prostate cancer- visit the Day 2 video of our Prostate Cancer Patient Conference video here: • 2021 Prostate Cancer P...
0:00 (Continued from Part 2) Diffuse Recurrence - Prostate Cancer That Has Spread to Different Parts of the Body
7:16 How Prior Systemic Therapies Affect Treatment of Diffuse Disease
14:07 How Genetic Testing Can Reveal Bad Features of Diffuse Disease
16:10 Optimal Treatments for Uncomplicated, Newly-Diagnosed or Hormone-Resistant, Diffuse Disease
18:31 Optimal Treatments for Complicated Diffuse Disease
20:37 Where Lutetium-177 Will Fit Into the Treatment of Advanced Disease
25:08 Final Thoughts/Advice for Patients
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The Prostate Cancer Research Institute (PCRI) is a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization that is dedicated to helping you research your treatment options. We understand that you have many questions, and we can help you find the answers that are specific to your case. All of our resources are designed by a multidisciplinary team of advocates and expert physicians, for patients. We believe that by educating yourself about the disease, you will have more productive interactions with your medical professionals and receive better individualized care. Feel free to explore our website or call our free helpline at 1 (800) 641-7274 with any questions that you have. Our Federal Tax ID # is 95-4617875 and qualifies for maximum charitable gift deductions by individual donors.
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@ThePCRI
@ThePCRI 2 жыл бұрын
If you have questions about prostate cancer and need help from our Helpline team, you can email us here: help@pcri.org
@mikeash7428
@mikeash7428 2 жыл бұрын
I started watching with this video and will go back to the others. If i had my choice i would choose to be doctored by as brilliant a guy as this. My experience with a general practitioner leaves me thinking i need to educate myself to know what's the best way to treat my prostate just as Dr Kwon suggests. I just learned how ignorant i am. Thank you.
@CreativeCrochetWithRhonda
@CreativeCrochetWithRhonda 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I just love Dr. Kwon. My hubby and I had the opportunity to speak with this brilliant doctor several years back while at a conference. His presentation, out of everything I saw at that conference was the most memorable and has always been with me as an influence on how I think about Prostate Cancer. My hubby, after an unsuccessful prostatectomy, had been coasting along for several years with only Avodart and Bicalutamide. After being on Zoladex and then Firmagon for a period of time, his Testosterone was permanently reduced to a very low number. After a bout of a colitis flare up recently, his PSA rose from .012 to .025 and then to .076 just a month later. We're in Canada and I hope that the Canadian oncologists respect and defer to Dr. Kwon as much as I do.
@tboyleninetynine
@tboyleninetynine 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing candor and knowledge base - thank you! I had a prostatectomy 2 weeks ago and I find out tomorrow if the disease had spread to my lymph nodes. I had a Gleason 8 in 9 of 20 samples, and a PSA of 8.9. This video was the best one I have found so far, and I have watched more than 50 of them since my biopsy on January 3 of this year.
@PanAmPatti
@PanAmPatti 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO much for sharing your knowledge with us. It helps us with to become our own advocates.
@tomswoverland
@tomswoverland 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr Kwon for what you have done for me. It’s been a long 2 years but I’m still on the right side of the grass and have good 😊 out look on life. Get the pet scan
@fullnoeleko
@fullnoeleko 5 ай бұрын
Thanks you Docteur Kwon, and all of thoses peoples at PCRI who made those videos possible. I have failed the first part of my journey to "beat" my cancer, ( failed chirurgy and lymph nodes metastases) but purhaps thanks to all those incredible valuable informations, I could limited consequences of this bad begining. Thanks a lot, and greetings from Belgium . (sorry for my bad english)
@stevedaily5140
@stevedaily5140 Жыл бұрын
Dr Kwon thanks for making this relatable to a patient level, in other words dummying it down so I understand my cancer. Also four giving me hope, I was told once it spread outlook is terminal, you have changed that mindset. Forever grateful Steve Daily
@johncoughlan9578
@johncoughlan9578 Жыл бұрын
Dear Dr Eugene you are absolutely extraordinary. Your videos are so incredibly informative and I am very grateful to you for teaching me so much about prostate cancer. I am 10 months post op after a Radical Robotic Prostatectomy and am doing well but I realise that it is extremely important for me to be on guard moving forward. Your delivery is crystal clear and packed with highly valuable facts re prostate disease….really you have taught me so much Sir. Thank you most sincerely
@wolfganghorak
@wolfganghorak 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience!
@hodshonf
@hodshonf 2 жыл бұрын
Great set of videos from Dr. Kwon. Thank you!!!
@phantomghost263
@phantomghost263 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Dr Know. Twelve years after my prostate was removed my PSA is still under 1 with a low Gleason score. I will request a PET scan. I had borderline enlarged lymph nodes in my chest cavity in the late 1990s. Two of my 4 younger brothers have (1) prostate cancer and the other pancreatic cancer stage 2 . Two older brothers who are diseased also had cancer . One died from stomach cancer and the other had radiation seeds in his prostate but accidentally choked to death on food at a nursing home
@nestordupo845
@nestordupo845 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for you lost, I hope foe your fast recovery my dad and one of my causin died with this shit cancer. Now its my turn to battle it. I live in Sweden and we have good treatment here too.
@fullnoeleko
@fullnoeleko 6 ай бұрын
I could never thanks you enough... and the same to Docter Scholtz and Alex.. Not enough word for that. (in addition, as a Belgium people, my english knownledge is not big enough for that 🙂) Thanls a LOT Docter Kwon, Docter Scholtz, and Alex
@Idahomie
@Idahomie 2 жыл бұрын
Thx PCRI..for your work.
@dcplunkett
@dcplunkett 2 жыл бұрын
Well organized and presented. Very clear. I learned a lot. Thanks.
@yvonnepollard7594
@yvonnepollard7594 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding overview for treatment options and explains in depth about prostrate cancers. Thank you for sharing this info.
@mikewagner8283
@mikewagner8283 Жыл бұрын
This has been very informative and helpful. Thank you Dr Kwon. I was diagnosed 4 years ago with a Gleason of 6. I am now better armed to discuss with my Dr.
@ransomcoates546
@ransomcoates546 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Scholz always seems so positive in his outlook compared to the other experts you broadcast. If there are horrible things we patients need to know I hope he’s not keeping them from us.
@daisuke6072
@daisuke6072 2 жыл бұрын
excellent explanatory and upbeat review.
@Marc_de_Car
@Marc_de_Car Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much !!
@handzar0
@handzar0 2 жыл бұрын
My father is basically in the exact same situation that Dr. Kwon describes: New metastatic stage 4 prostate cancer, being told that chemo should not be used, but being steered towards a trial. This is a nationally well-known oncologist. How / Where do I find a doctor / oncologist that prioritizes to prolong his life vs. what their research interests are?
@philipworl9340
@philipworl9340 4 ай бұрын
Thank You!
@model.train.railway.
@model.train.railway. Жыл бұрын
Thankyou so much
@MrWizard36
@MrWizard36 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant !
@Bob-ir2bj
@Bob-ir2bj 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a pic of the great Mannish Boy himself, Muddy Waters over your shoulder? He's been singin in my ears for a long time too. I like the interest in the alligator family as well. Most importantly I wish to thank you for your time and invaluable advice with these videos. I was just diagnosed with CaP and will be discussing the findings with my urologist tomorrow. Your insight and enthusiasm has been very helpful and inspiring. Wish you had a clinic in MT.
@LaundryChuteLLC
@LaundryChuteLLC 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing talk 😇
@neguseametih
@neguseametih 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@brianjarvis9280
@brianjarvis9280 2 жыл бұрын
Good information, but it (of course) leads to questions. Following what is considered “successful” treatment (whether surgery, radiation, or other): > since PSA may not be a good indicator, should (1) PET/MRI/CT scans be done periodically in order to catch metastasis early so as not to wait, and (2) genetic testing be done to determine if there are unfavorable genetics that may make one prone to metastasis? -> Basically, what does one do beforehand so that (hopefully) these bad outcomes are detected long before what he’s talking about occurs? Very similar to getting PSA/DRE tests early-on rather than waiting until after prostate cancer symptoms appear, how do we detect for (possible) metastasis as early as possible?
@jeffdwier5590
@jeffdwier5590 Жыл бұрын
Just tried to get an appointment. They would take me because it hasn't metastasized. Exactly what you said, if he's so great why can they try and stop this before it spreads instead of waiting for more serious problems and then hitting you with all these drugs and radiation. May be he's a genius but looks like is after the big money as most these doctors are instead of truly trying to help people and save lives. So very disappointing
@brianjarvis9280
@brianjarvis9280 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffdwier5590 I’ve talked to a few guys who have gone to him. He often takes the worst cases; those who have run out of options. Anyone can handle the early and easier cases. (As he indicates in one of his presentations, he takes the recurrent/advanced cases.) I take some of the concepts that I pick up from what he says, and then go over it with my RO (and maybe incorporate it).
@johncoughlan9578
@johncoughlan9578 Жыл бұрын
Dr Eugene please may I ask how soon should a man have a PSMA PET SCAN after a Robotic Radical Prostatectomy…….thank you most sincerely for all your brilliant advice and guidance Sir…..you are helping men in such a clear and constructive way and offering options that we never thought possible
@Mary-bx8gd
@Mary-bx8gd 2 жыл бұрын
This can be somewhat confusing, in one section of the video the second generation hormones are mentioned as not always a good thing, but further along in the video, it is talked about using hormone therapy, chemotherapy, and a second generation hormone.
@ThePCRI
@ThePCRI 2 жыл бұрын
I do not have the expertise to agree or disagree with Dr. Kwon, but I think I can help clarify what he meant. His chief complaints about second-generation anti-androgens have to do with how they are sometimes sequenced rather than the drugs themselves. For example, it is common for a patient to be prescribed a second-generation anti-androgen when their PSA starts rising on standard hormone therapy (e.g. Lupron). The patient will continue on standard hormone therapy and the second-generation anti-androgen until the PSA starts to rise again, and then he will be offered chemotherapy. One of the most common justifications for this sequence is that second-generation anti-androgens have fewer side effects than chemotherapy, and so it is best to give a patient the best quality of life for as long as possible. Dr. Kwon's problems with this are: 1. The side effects of second-generation anti-androgens are not necessarily more tolerable than those of chemotherapy, and so that is not always a good justification. 2. PSA is not always a good indicator of whether the second-generation anti-androgen is working. He claims that in 20%-40% of patients, he has seen progression of disease on scans while the PSA is declining. Therefore, if a doctor and patient are only using PSA to monitor disease, it is possible for them to feel a false sense of security, believing that the patient does not need stronger therapy when he, in fact, does. 3. By forgoing chemotherapy until a second-generation anti-androgen starts to fail, it is possible that cancer cells in a patient that are resistant to all forms of hormone therapy will grow and mutate. These cells could have been susceptible to earlier use of chemotherapy, but can become resistant to it through replications and mutations which have been allowed to occur by not using more aggressive treatment earlier. Dr. Kwon provides preliminary evidence that patient survival is better when chemotherapy is used earlier in the disease course. So, the problem he has with second-generation anti-androgens is that some doctors rely on them to manage the disease, when he believes that combining it with other treatments gives you a better shot of eradicating (or mostly eradicating) the disease to give a better chance of longer remissions. When he talks about using the second-generation anti-androgen in combination with chemotherapy, this is in the context of newly diagnosed metastatic disease (that is, no prior treatment). This has been suggested as the ideal course of treatment based on a phase III trial in France which we actually discuss in this video (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a52Vm62cu7vVfYk.html at 0:42-3:07). Dr. Kwon's opinions on previously treated disease, in theory, seem to be very similar to newly diagnosed disease (that is, to go as aggressive as you need to as early as possible rather than waiting for one treatment to fail before starting another one); however, since the particulars have not been confirmed by a clinical phase III trial, doctors have an obligation to not express their opinions on those matters as facts. I hope that helps clarify things. If you need a better explanation, give our office a call at 310-743-2116.
@peterste8652
@peterste8652 2 жыл бұрын
I endorse the PCRI response to this question. BTW...The chemo they're talking about is Taxotere which is pretty tolerable.
@Mary-bx8gd
@Mary-bx8gd 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I understand this now, I appreciate your great response in clarifying this issue.
@stevep7881
@stevep7881 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou dearly for giving your time to present this excellent series. Much appreciated. One question please. How often should I get a PSMA PET when on long-term 1st gen hormone treatment whilst my PSMA is below detectability?
@stevep7881
@stevep7881 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a bit more info will prompt a reply. My situation is complicated, advanced, diffuse (per Dr Kwon's categories) with Zoladex holding the PSA below detectable. Thanks.
@karlkascha1261
@karlkascha1261 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a discussion of insulin potentiation therapy, IPT, in conjunction with low dose chemo and high dose IV vitamin C.
@johnszabo3548
@johnszabo3548 2 жыл бұрын
Are these 3 video's available in paper form?
@nestordupo845
@nestordupo845 Жыл бұрын
I wish you are my Doctor, I just met my urology today for the result of my MRI he said they found 2 tomur in my prostate but he don't know yet if it is a cancer or not so I am going to have needlebiopcy next week. I know for sure I have the cancer because my dad died with prostate cancer, one of my causin died with prostate cancer and one causin survived. So if I have I will fight to the end and I will not give up.
@gregory8861
@gregory8861 2 жыл бұрын
I hope I’m wrong with how I’m interpreting this video series. I am 3+4 and am currently undergoing EBRT without hormone therapy and I feel now I have no chance that I’ll be cured after my treatments.
@ThePCRI
@ThePCRI 2 жыл бұрын
This video is discussing advanced metastatic prostate cancer. Check out our playlist on "Teal" that is, intermediate-risk prostate cancer. The cure rate is generally very high.
@klgbca
@klgbca 2 жыл бұрын
Let me see if I have this correct: assuming uncomplicated diffuse disease. Treat with 1st generation hormones until failure, then taxotere? Or start with both? Also, when to do consolidated radiation therapy cleanup? When 2nd generation drugs fail or sooner? Thank you Dr. Kwon and PCRI from this 18 year survivor.
@ThePCRI
@ThePCRI 2 жыл бұрын
He discusses this at 16:10. He recommends hormone therapy and six cycles of chemotherapy at the same time. If there is any detectable PSA after the chemotherapy, he suggests adding a 2nd generation hormone therapy to the standard hormone therapy. Then, he suggests considering Consolidative radiotherapy or surgery, but does not specify when or under what conditions. We also have a video about the latest Phase III prospective trial about patients with newly diagnosed metastatic disease here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a52Vm62cu7vVfYk.html We have a helpline staffed by a patient advocate that may be able to answer any other questions or provide some more clarify. Our contact info is here: pcri.org/helpline
@gvet47
@gvet47 11 ай бұрын
Well when I was told I had prostate cancer I was told they could not help me. In almost all my lymph nodes and they did not say what was shown in my biopse. Did show me how large my prostate and the lymph nodes. they looked like one large mass. My PSA was 5000. They did give me lupron but never told me they could prevent my breast from blooming! my sweats are terrible, like standing in the rain. The oral drugs made me so sick I had to stop them. I never get told how I will die. Does chemo reall do any good once it is in all the lymph nodes?
@hararedeclare3839
@hararedeclare3839 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Now on the Genetic Testing,to assess for : BRCA 1 or BRCA 2, and ME I or tumor mutations burden. Are ALL those seen as gene expressions? And can a focal treatment be recommended if my Genome test says I am "High Risk", (lower region)even though I have one lesion ,3+4,in Left lateral & one 3+3 Left posterior,according to mpMRI and PSMA only shows same region?
@hararedeclare3839
@hararedeclare3839 2 жыл бұрын
And psa of 3
@kerbychk2124
@kerbychk2124 8 ай бұрын
Listening to Doctor Kwon; 医者with a 父母心!"HOo-YAah!!! Doctor : kerp it up!!! Respectfully.
@phantomghost263
@phantomghost263 2 жыл бұрын
My name is Charles Bair not Phantom ghost which my grandson goes by. Those electrons seem to have their own way
@jeffdwier5590
@jeffdwier5590 Жыл бұрын
Just called to get an appointment. My insurance will allow me to see doctor Kwon but because my recurrent prostate cancer has not metastasis and my psa is not over 1.5 they won't see me. Total opposite from what he said in the video about catching it early and knocking it out. So basically they are saying I have to wait till it spreads before he will see me.. I guess you post a few videos and a bunch of desperate Men think they have some hope to stay alive longer and they rip your heart out when you call. The receptionist was incredibly rude and had no kindness or compassion. Whats this world coming too, its all about the money
@ThePCRI
@ThePCRI Жыл бұрын
Hello Jeff, We are so sorry to hear this. Please reach out to our Helpline team so they can help you: pcri.org/helpline
@charlesjennisch5261
@charlesjennisch5261 2 жыл бұрын
I will do my best to keep comments respectful. Helping my father in law with end-stage prosthetic disease and referred to these three videos to understand how to get approval for end-stage treatment with Lutathera. As, the doctor does not have time to work for approval himself. Difficult understand as I am a physician in a private office and hire me on staff to work through approval processes rather than leaving patients to sort this out on the round. Highly disappointed to see that the referral for these three videos to help us understand how to get approval for the medication involved over an hour of information on prostate cancer in general and a brief discussion for a few minutes about the medication but absolutely nothing about how to actually get approval. Both disappointed in Mayo Clinic and Dr. Kwon for the adviscifer of a patient and willingness to work through the insurance issues for approval of a life-saving medication. I understand that he does not have time to do this but mayo, like other clinics should have staff to assist with this. Further disappointed to be referred to an hour of video with the doctor simply explaining prostate cancer to us rather than in any way shape or form addressing the process for dealing with insurance companies and how to get approval for this life-saving medicine. Dr. Kwon needs to find a better way to advocate for patients or how to educate them regarding working through the approval process rather than taking our time on these educational lectures about prostate cancer they have nothing to do with working through insurance and approval. Once again, highly disappointing at multiple levels!!!!
@ThePCRI
@ThePCRI 2 жыл бұрын
This is a video for educating patients in general about the staging and treatment of advanced prostate cancer, and not a video exclusively about lutetium-177. We have about four or five other short videos about lutetium-177, its approval, and who qualifies (that is, patients with hormone-resistant prostate cancer who have been administered chemotherapy at least once) and your can find that by searching "PCRI lutetium-177." Currently, lutetium-177 is not available anywhere in the United States because of an issue with production, and we will be releasing a video about that imminently. It was estimated to be back in production in June or July, but there has not been much follow up by the company that manufactures it, Novartis. Once it is available, there should be insurance coverage for anyone who qualifies. Dr. Kwon explains that he does not like to deal with the insurance companies because it is time consuming and does not produce fruitful results. If a doctor has prescribed something, like a PSMA PET scan, then the insurance company is already aware that the doctor thinks the patient should have it, and having the doctor or staff member speak with the insurance company is unlikely to make any more of a difference than having anyone else appeal their decision, and would increase the cost of health care without providing any value. He also gives advice regarding the number of times that a patient should appeal in order to have the best chance of having a procedure like the PSMA PET approved. We are very grateful that Dr. Kwon took so much time out of his day to give patients a survey of all the different considerations in the staging and treatment of advanced disease. You are free to criticize our speakers, but obviously, not every single video will fulfill every person's specific needs, and we have several other shorter videos that address what you want to know.
@charlesjennisch5261
@charlesjennisch5261 2 жыл бұрын
Your timely and informative response is appreciated. Sadly, the resource that my family was referred to for dealing with the insurance company and accessing this medication were these 3 videos, not the ones you are directing us to watch. It’s nice these have been produced but patients need their physician to at least take the time to direct them to the right resource. Additionally, insurance authorization is most often done by the physicians office. Peer to peer is usually the final standard for approval when there is disagreement and these calls are highly efficient with direct calls to the physician at the insurance company. Most of the time it does not come to this and physicians are not the people calling but their health system has people trained to make these calls. We spent two hours on the phone last night with insurance bc they claimed the order was not received. They were shocked we were asked to make these calls and they indicated that they have a direct provider line that is far more efficient. They indicated this was the way to move things forward. At present, weeks of potential treatment have been lost.
@ThePCRI
@ThePCRI 2 жыл бұрын
It could be that the production halt could be the source of the issue since the insurance company said it was never ordered. It is surprising that the doctor's office would not keep you updated on that. Here is an article at the beginning of the halt, and the most recent update: www.fiercepharma.com/manufacturing/novartis-halts-us-production-radioligand-cancer-therapies-citing-manufacturing#:~:text=Thanks%20to%20the%20abrupt%20manufacturing,%2Dpositive%2C%20metastatic%20castration%2Dresistant www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/novartis-surprise-radiotherapy-production-halt-could-be-drawing-close
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