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I feel the need... the need for SPEED!

Fast but definitely effective

If you get paid by the hour Dewalt, if you get paid by the job, milwaukee. Dewalt engineers should be ashamed, if I were their manager I would be kicking their ass. Also its very clear on the Milwaukee platform there are 2 types M12 nd M18, but the Dewalt battery ranges seem very convoluted.

Dude I definitely agree with this saw Milwaukee takes the cake. Only thing that keeps me from getting Milwaukee is their use of slave camps in xin xang China to make their tools. Can’t support that my guy. Dewalt makes the majority of their things right here in America.

Chris Poole you’re not kidding holy shit 😂😂

@@Protoolreviews You're doing it all wrong, you're supposed to turn the tool around and cut towards your body. I like to use my leg or fingers as a backer while cutting

@@mastermetalshredder hell no you always cut away from you peroid

Conqwiztadore22 no man, you have to cut towards/into your body. This goes for circular saws as well..

Also shouldn't be the fuel should be the regular milwaukee

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We all know who will win lol

There is no contest, if you need to get work done get the Milwaukee. BTW most of my tools are yellow.

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@@nestormoctezuma4695 what does that have to do with lowering the volume before the cut?

So you're gonna get fatigued cutting a 2 inch pvc pipe ? Lol

Okay mr vcg construction lol

Ditto. Best of both worlds. Shout out too DeWaukee!

I agree. I'm in Milwaukee, Bosch and Makita cordless and if I find a DeWalt tool that suits me best I'll buy it. Most of my cordless tools happen to be Milwaukee, but I'm ok with running different batteries.

I also fall in this category. I own both brands because they both have something great to offer. Depending on my task at hand, I choose accordingly. I'm an electrician; I do the same with hand tools.

Hey can the M18 cut through rigid conduit or strut? or is it just emt?

@@djaztec97 yes it can cut through all 3. I’ve done it with my coworkers quite a few times. I was finally able to get my own today. Just make sure you get a metal blade and have at it!

VCG are paid from Flex and others under the table...thier so phony and Vince is fukn annoying!

VCG only cares about their one dolla hollas...10 mins before they actually start talking about the product. I'm jumping ship too.

@@Protoolreviews I can’t stand VCG anymore

Its pretty good, VCG is heavily Milwaukee biased, Ave is brilliant though with his teardowns.

Tell me about it. What those guys do at VCG is try to win a showdown,. Race to the finish line. Its always the combination of the tool and the operator.

Rob D I used fuel m12 sawzall its a beast for its size...a larger ah battery is important I only used 6ah i just completed a hospital and it cut a lot of 1” emt I think the atomic line isn’t heavy duty

For most jobs for the average person to professional, the m12 really does the job. M18 good to have but most times its overkill unless doing a commerical to industrial type of work, even then youd want to use a corded power tool for the task. M12 is also great portability wise especially if youre bouncing from job to job or different places in the day on the jobsite. A lot of jobsites arent packout/rolling bag friendly so anything to keep the gear light as possible helps

@@ggsdude1 I'm assuming DeWalt got the message because since writing this, I've invested in their 20V platform. I actually replaced that M12 sawzall with DeWalt's compact reciprocating saw and got the poll saw and weed trimmer(with the alloy gear head). M12 tools still getting more use though.

Dewalt had a stupid good Black Friday sale $300; 6½ circular saw then atomic line (brushless 18v) ocillator, orbital sander, impact, powerdrill, (slow single battery) charger, 2ah & 4ah batteries, and a carry bag. Sadly my drill recently sprung legs and ran away with my 4ah battery and a hole saw.

As far as I know, all of milwaukee tools can use a belt clip. If it does not come with one, you can add it. You can also buy other aftermarket devices to hold any tool if it does not offer a belt clip. That is a foolish reason to not buy a tool. Also if you need a more compact tool, the m12 will be more compact and light than the dewalt and probably more powerful even. LOL.

@@ariip As I said, I use Dewalt. And you're a dick. LOL!

@@ariip The M12 and Xtreme 12v are a lot closer in performance than these. I have a charger for each, but I will go with DeWalt for the 12v recip because it's overall nicer.

No one cares about your family deal stupid

AdrianFromKZfaq worst decision! It’s really Chinese tools vs American! Lol genius

Milwaukee is better quality and they have a wider range of tools that use the same batteries.

@@vasilhrisca5536 DeWalt makes tools in China. Genius

RAM TRUCKS yes, but that’s not what I’m arguing genius! Lol They may make some stuff in China, but most of their products are from Mexico. And they’re the only brand that make and assemble tools here in the states.

Yes they are good when you need to cut something one handed or need more control and don’t want your saw ripping straight through something and maybe hitting something important. I just used mine to cut floor out around air duct and vent.

I see what you mean, it adds up

I was thinking the same thing

Emp Ty I never thought of it like that but now that you say it I think Milwaukee should’ve won vibration test

I have used them both now. The Dewalt is slower, but it is almost vibration free and easy to follow out of position cut lines. Also, the dewalt seems to make a cleaner cut. One more benefit, if you are on a ladder working, the Dewalt wins by the belt hook and the nose hook.

@@scottrule3456 you can buy and add that piece

Dewalt 1/2" stroked length, Milwaukee 7/8" stroked length

Peter Shmanka as an electrician the dewalt ergonomics and weight are attractive but I have to drill Tapcons then cut holes in wooden/metal studs and metal enclosures the atomic line is a light duty line of tools....Electricians Rule the Tools...and Milwaukee is the best...however the small dewalt bandsaw is much better than Milwaukee’s m12 bandsaw(which is a bumber)

I agree about the hackzall being a plumber's dream,it's such a beast. I've cut up to 8" sch 80 cpvc with this thing. It's so strong and light for what its capable of

have you tried milwaukee's PVC cutter? smooth cuts on the PVC, but curious how worth it is in real world application.

China needs their products pushed

Why would anyone ever use beef flavored tooth paste designed for Rottweilers? Because it's delicious.

Is there no fuel brushless hackzall?

Should had added a Pound of wait to the DeWalt when doing the test seeing how the other ways pound more. That's a 15% decrease in a slower cut .

That's actually the new and only 20v one handed saw that dewalt has..so they both are in the same line...

Porta band is way more useful I find. 10 years experience and it's all we use at work for any metal cutting. Way cleaner and faster cuts through EMT and rigid

A lot of people buy the Black and Decker yellow, thinking they are getting something in the name dewalt. Most of it is no better than the tools they offer as black and decker or porter cable. While some products that they put the Dewalt name on are pretty good, the kit deals are usually lower end tools and batteries. But you got the Dewalt name, should be good? If you bother trying to warranty anything on them, you'll find out why they have a 1 star rating. It's the Black and Decker business way.

Derek Dugger and TTI makes Walmart tools and dirt devil products, both known garbage. That’s a horrible reason to dislike a company, because they have different product lines? I know plenty of people still using their 18v tools from dewalt that hasn’t been around for years. Both are good brands and both make good tools; dewalt does make some lesser too,s under that banner and I agree that’s lame, but I’ve never, ever seen a b&d tool with the same specs as a dewalt tool since they’ve even had a lithium lineup. Porter cable, on a few select, yes, but that’s because the PC wasn’t a bad tool either. And like the demo showed, at this level the spec difference is minor, you’re literally talking about cutting something a second quicker for the “more powerful” tool, rarely would either brand crap out over most basic contractor needs. For example, I have dewalts 20v 1/2 impact which puts out over 700ft pounds of torque, no idea how someone could say that’s b&d grade. There’s so much fanboyism over stupid brands, just get the one that meets your needs at the better price. With any of these tools, either it’ll likely crap out within the return period or it’ll last a long while if cared for, just pay attention within the return period. Counting on an rma or warranty is foolish in an age of corporations not finding customer service matters to a bottom line. I also have rigid tools, lifetime warranty used to be like craftsman’s good ol warranty, slap a broken tool on HD counter and pick out a new one, now it’s a lengthy rma process where you pay shipping as well. Bottom line, some reps you get from any brand are great and make the process a snap, others are shitbags and won’t honor the warranty over technicalities, and unless you sue not much you can do about it. I can find plenty of forums of Milwaukee not honoring warranties as well.

Not to mention the Milwaukee is 33% heavier than the DeWalt.

Do you think M12 Fuel is better against Dewalt dcs369 18v?

@@jorjdimitrov5076 No. Dewalt would most likely come out on top

@@badger0888 Are you sure? I think m12 fuel is a little powerful from Dewalt 369..

With you on that but I added an extension piece to it with rivets and now iit hangs just the same 😉

Technically m12 and atomic 12v are compact but good perspective!

What model M12 do you have 3 of. Is it the M12 Fuel model or the older non-fuel model. The M12 Fuel is light years better then the older non fuel hackzall. I can see the dewalt being much better than the M12 non Fuel, but I doubt its much better than the M12 Fuel model. The M12 Fuel is 5/8 stroke length, the same as Dewalt, and its 3000 spm which is 200 more than the Dewalt.

@@Jay-sg2ww I have 2 of the older version and 1 M12 fuel. I got a chance to abuse the Dewalt yesterday on some 1/2" adjustment bolts under an older furnace. The Dewalt kicked ass with a 3ah battery. 6 bolts in great time and no loss of battery like the M12.

Yes it is. The Fuel is a monster. Far superior to even the non-Fuel Milwaukee. The Dewalt didn’t have a chance but none of the other one handed sawzalls do either.

Well ain't that just shitty

Thats because The fuel line is Milwaukee’s top and in the atomic line is not Dewalt top end

Wont last more than a year? Jeeze what do you do to your tools. Also if you want small and quiter, the m12 hackzall is a beast. Most of the m12 lineup is. Would like to see the m12 hackzall vs the dewalt atomic.

Daniel Ramsden I use them. M12 hackzall is not good dude. It’s not even good for DIYers let alone tradesmen, I’ve had one. Save your money and get something useful.

Well i have one and i can say for certain it is in no way shit. I dont think ive had a single m12 tool that was shit. Compared to the 18volt stuff, of course its not as good. But you buy the m12 stuff for its small size.

I use it to cut tree branches as well. 😝

I felt like 5lbs wasn't near enough. Maybe I'm just rough on my tools.

@@jonathanbetenbender307 what he means is that the Milwaukee is 33% heavier just as the tool alone. The m18 is 4lbs vs dewalt at 3lbs. So the Milwaukee had a 1lb Force advantage in every cutting test.

@@vintageswiss9096 I understood, but what I was pointing out is that in real life I'd be using more than 5lbs of force. It would be silly to add more weight to the lighter tool, but applying realistic force would make for a comparison that's actually fair. At least a 20lbs weight.

I use my M12 stuff far more than the M18 stuff. The M12 stuff is powerful enough to do almost anything I need except long duration stuff.

Brett S. Yes

Although the Dewalt is 20volt vs Milwaukee 18volt. The Milwaukee hackzall is a compact sawzall in the 18volt line.

I have M12 Hackzall and it is compact. No regrets buying it. I can cut with this tool for hours without fatigue.

@@lauritsenheatingcooling8668 20v is a marketing trick. Dewalt is still technically an 18volt

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Yes!! Chinese tools!!!! Good for you!

Good point. Tests with the weight assist to provide uniform down force should be adjusted so each tool has equal total weighed down force. Still love Milwaukee though... :D

You guys should have adjusted the weight for the DeWalt for those performance comparison while cutting stuff.

I don't agree. As a user, you're likely to put the same amount of force down regardless of how heavy or light the tool is. It's not like you're going to weigh the tool and think that this is 1lb lighter than that tool so I'm going to put an extra pound of force onto it. Fact is, DeWalt was going for a lighter saw at the expense of performance. If you're not already bought into a platform, make the decision on whether you'd rather have performance or lightweight. I'm already in DeWalt's platform, so I would be buying the DeWalt regardless, but I'm still plenty happy with my 20v compact cordless recip saw.

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You must be a Romex jockey. Residential LOL

I have so many Milwaukee 12/18v tools I've lost track. Makita 18v tools are starting to infiltrate into my inventory and I definitely am enjoying their offerings.

@@gangsterHOTLINE I like Milwaukee cordless tools. Milwaukee tools are solid (good/very good). Makita is consistently delivering good/very good tools.

You’re comparing the waltz compact tools to Milwaukee’s top of the line so yeah I guess if that’s the way you compare things

Sorry you bought it because it wasn’t worth it when you already had the non fuel version?

Do some pushups

I agree, kind of ridiculous point system. A butter knife would technically tie with the Milwaukee if you scored it. :)

The end result doesn't matter if really.. You need to look at the results closer and decide what's best for you lightness or power