oh people will definitely find a way to argue it lmao

I won’t give my opinion one way or the other, but here’s an argument against: that there are many Natives who either support the team name or don’t care if it is kept or changed. twitter.com/hogfarmerchris/status/1278691974682378242?s=21

righteous video

I'd like to think I'm pretty calm lol

Cowboys are not an ethnic group boring buddy

Lol ?

+Jaris Goes Ahead Pretty what tribe?

Awesome, We are a nation of people not forgotten but rising out of the ashes of the government and its dislike for us . We are stronger than they are and they are afraid , We have Power, Unity and love. Peace and Honor brother

Also Sioux and creeks #native pride

Thank you both for your comments. Blessing to you both and let's continue to stand up for who we are.

im zuni

cheythisnativegirl LOL Awesome I am half Navajo and Zuni.

Thank you for all of the ones on this video!

***** Halbritter and the Oneida are not the only foes of this racist name.

of what? 20k years and still living in the stone age when europeans found them? believing in superstitions and mysticism? pride is earned, not automatically given for achieving absolutely NOTHING! undeserved, unjustifiable pride is what is keeping you from joining the rest of your fellow human beings in our modern , civilized, 21st century world and getting a REAL job and education that would make you a productive member of society. like computer programmer or accountant (instead of being trained in the "art" of hawk calling, rain dancing, feather hat stitching or whatever else it is that you people do). you dont get to be proud simply for achieving the absolute bare minimum any society on the planet has ever achieved

If the redskins go then the Boston Celtics and fighting Irish better go in all fairness or we can find more important things to focus our time on.

+art Boston one huge difference between the red skins and the teams you listed is that the natives are still under occupation and red skin is a racial slur.

Nolan Beatrolyn - So what exactly is your point? Is the Celtics logo supposed to be offensive? Keep spouting idiotic and baseless comments out of your ass if you like but keep in mind the Redskins aren't going anywhere.

I wasn't trying to be racist. If it came off that way I apologize

I don’t know what I’m Doing Wow that’s really a amazing ancestor.

Mine too

That's amazing I'm also a relative to a famous Cherokee

That’s pretty dope

That’s cap

Only certain voices are being amplified by the pandering left that hands out pity so they can feel self righteous. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qpiKrJCEx9rFpaM.html

That's right, you should learn the good with the bad. It is YOUR history. But good luck with that now that we have this ludicrous, self-righteous, hypocrites that want to rewrite everybody's history into some bullsh*t narrative that is PC. Kind of like the white missionaries tried to do when they forced the natives into schools and outlawed their language and culture. That didn't work out so well and didn't breed any kind of resentment at all did it? And now these self-righteous a'holes want to do it again only this time to everyone. Santayana was soooo correct when he said that those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Agreed!!

Fucking this....

Indeed, reminds me of how many idiots refused to end slavery and were against giving equal rights to women and those of color.

I agree. Retract the ad! Done.

You know? I mean, various iconic sports teams have changed their freaking cities dozens of times without the world coming to an end; I think the Washington NFL franchise can survive a name change.

im just saying if your gonna remove that then you have to remove the chiefs because that's "racist" as well

Thank you for showing!!

I'm offended by your comment for no logical reason and think its racist for no logical reason. Edit it now you bigot!

This was made by Native Americans, not white socialists or anyone else you can think of.

@@Dennis-nc3vw imagine being offended over the name redskin🤡

@@jiimmyplayz bruh that’s a racist slur that the Europeans called the native Americans

@@jp5105 ok but the team was named by an Indian. So again. I stick to my comment. It’s not racist and you people are clowns for thinking so🤡

+Susan McGraw Keber This video was actually put up on youtube in 2014. And the NFL also has guidelines for the commercial length. So there's more to it than their no-activism rules.

Stacey Turner They could shorten it. It isn’t impossible.

Should be top comment

No

Also, they've been asking for 45 years. I saw a protest of the name for the first time in 1971.

no, Neal X, using people as a mascot and using a horrifically racist logo is still offensive so bye.

Gamzee Makara I'd go with the Pigskins; fits the team fight song, football has long been referred to as "pigskin", and honors the tradition of the long-time fans the Hogs.

Gamzee Makara how is the logo racist????

Gamzee Makara The rageclown speaks truth.

Gamzee Makara Using people as a mascot is racist? What about the Michigan State Spartans? Or the USC Trojans? Those were real people so unless you're as offended by those team mascots as you are by this one, I'm calling blatant hypocrisy on that one. Using people or even a people as a mascot is not a sign of disrespect but the opposite, as long as it is done without racial insensitivity, which is why the name "Redskins" is offensive... Calling the mere logo offensive simply because its a depiction of a Native American is tantamount to saying the Sacagawea on the US Dollar coin was racist.

You need to marry an Indian man,Ounce you go Red,you'll have nothing to dread.

The same people crying about Redskins are the same people who would cry about whiteskins or blackskins. Internet social warriors

Black Skins and Yellow Skins would cause an uproar because minorities love to get offended for illogical reasons. However, I fully support the name "White Skins." It would be nice to have white people associated with something other than being evil for a change, their uniforms are already just as white as they are red. Bayonet thrust!

No it would be not. Stop imagining enemies. Fcking snowflake

Theodore Caesar Moseby I’m a fan of the team, and I think the name should be changed. I mean Dan Snyder doesn’t actually care about the team, so if we’re rebuilding, we might as well rebrand.

Now, they are the Commanders.

@@thrasymachus6212 Commanding mediocrity

@@TheodoreCaesarMoseby It is still better than the previous name.

The difference is that the term "Redskin" can, and has, been used in a derogatory manner (there is some differing opinions on that) while the mascot for the Cleveland MLB team is simply the name "Indian." I'm sure a case could be made to change that name as well. I think that gets a little too PC for me, though.

Todd Exum It's not the name I have offense with Cleveland's team. It's the actual stylization of their mascot. Similar to a Black Sambo motif that we wouldn't dare to use anymore because of how insulting it is. It's high time we check our privilege and treat all people with respect and dignity and not make race a punchline.

they should change the cleveland indians mascot. if you watched the video, you will notice that one of the first things to come up that they "call themselves" is indian. so that would be WAY too far. the redskins organization is also trying to argue that the word is not a slur. some people may use it as such, but red skin is not a slur, just as white, black, or brown skin is not. combined with the history of the organization, i would be inclined to keep the name as is. but if they really feel that strongly about the name not being about their skin, then how about the washington indians? according to the ad, that would be agreeable.

EddieHedrick You have a good point, but cool down, dude. You're much more likely to have your point heard if you're calm.

The Cleveland Indians mascot is one of the most racist looking things I've ever seen. Seriously, just go "Google Cleveland Indians Mascot Chief Wahoo" and tell me that doesn't look racist as fuck.

87 years latter. We've been waiting 87 years for this vile shit to come to an end.

@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism thanks for clarifying. In my case, not being a football fan, I became aware of the issue thanks to this video.

@Martin Balber and you bring this up because...?

@Martin Balber Hold on there, you literally just quoted them, then you now state "Native Americans" placing all 500+ tribes into a basket. You'll need to remain fair and state that "those five tribes that settlers called civilized" owned slaves. By saying "Native Americans" there, you're laying claim that ALL people of turtle island (known as Indians of the America's, Native Americans, red man, etc) all held and owned slaves.

@Martin Balber What you are attempting to prove is that all people are imperfect and did some not so honorable things in the past. The difference is, those 5 tribes that held slaves don't have sports named of teams for the black community mocking them with foolish caricatures and black - skins - the N -words or the dark - ies etc.etc. They have long since apologized to the black communities and stand with them today with the issues they face. That's the difference. The same ask by we Indian people is of you. To please drop this foolishness, and stand along side us with our issues, such as all the broken treaties, land theft and the mass killing of our women, the lack of opportunities that have forced living conditions of that of the 3rd world and the list goes on and on and on. We are people. Not mascots. Those 5 tribes don't dress up and put on black face to mock the honorable black community do they? We've all done imperfect things. The difference is, what we can do about it moving forward. Stop the hate. The R-word and the use of our image (mainly that of the plains tribes) for profit and mockery is wrong and studies show it's harmful to our children.

Agreed. Extraordinarily powerful.

Your sentiment is lovely but they misguided you

@@janegilbert5304 What a weird reply. I don't know who you think "they" are and I don't really care what conspiracy theory moved you to comment. But you are a couple of years too late to stand on the side of racism, the name was changed. Deal with it.

They don't. White socialists don't like it

Puss

@@jhlaxbro27 middle class white liberal college students have taken it upon themselves to be offended on others behalf

Thank You King Cobra. It’s time for a change.

@@dereklewis4321 you are a fool many natives dislike the name and want it changed

Exactly, My old highschool was the indians, me and one other native american kid there and we were the only ones, now all the white kids want it changed.

@@calebheney302 I am a Native American And The Name Should Change, Not the Fake Trolls Impersonating as Native Americans, Red Skins is Literally a Derogatory Term isn't it Trailer Park Trash?

@@alexjohnson606 Im talkingg about the name indians. Not redskins. Its not derogatory at all.

@@alexjohnson606 Also Im from altus oklahoma im a quarter cherokee, not some 1/16th like some of these people

The same proud Native Americans are saying the name should be changed...why don't you try listening, since you admire them so much?

I'm from SC, my grandparents were Native, my uncle was on a tribal council, no they were absolutely not proud to be mascots.

The people who came before you are your ancestors. The people who come after you are your descendants.

your ancestors, not descendants, but I got u

Yea Cherokee where I’m from didn’t care football has nothing to do with native culture lmao I’ve rode with them and there is no better feeling than riding an open field on a palomino working cattle with friends

I think all those people have a problem with the name because they think it's not fair that you get a team with a cool name but they can't afterall the L.A. Paleskins would be a terrible name ;)

Which tribe?

Meteor Blades Me? I'm Nez Perce.

***** and people who do have a problem with it do? you just contradicted your own damn self. tell that to the 90% that said that they dont have a problem with the name in the latest survey. i myself am pamlico. and its totally ridiculous to have any issue with the name when you have tribes and reservations that are in such poor conditions. within the community, you have a disproportionate amount of uneducated people, places without even running water and rampant alcoholism. and if it was such a problem, get rid of all indian based names. the state of oklahoma in itself means red people in choctaw. yet i dont here you saying anything about it. this issue is like saying i have a broken foot, a broken arm and broken ribs, but im more concerned about a what becky called me at school yesterday.

rj berger Polls are crap. I was never asked, no one I know was ever asked. They had a poll of 100 questions, and that was only ONE of them, and was not given just to Natives.

Heck, yeah. I'm not an American Indian, really. To be honest Redskins aren't strangers to a controversial logo appearing on the last clip of the video, and this logo has long been a dispute for many people. Thanks for saying that, I'm still Filipino.

I'm of actual Indian origin (from India just to be completely clear) and I support this message too!

+Sumeet Sandhu i'm a mistaken "indian" in canada lol when the settlers/colonials first arrived over here, they called us "indians" because they were so lost and thought there were over in india...it took about 500 years to get them to admit and correct that error....still many incapable of learning our proper names....these american and canadian settler colonials have proven to be pretty dense and slow about these things lol thanks kevin & myrtle...it's nice to hear positive words over the bs we usually read in these threads and comment boards

Thanks.

You guys are beautiful and for the rest of my life I will HATE how native Indians are neglected, looked down upon and KILLED! All those 'white' countries like the US, Canada and Australia are YOURS. FOREVER & ALWAYS!

And you are right! It is time to cancel the Cancel Culture, which imo is a Cancer Culture. I am an immigrant btw.

Imagine that?

No

Unfortunately it changed

+OneZyzzBrah As a Native who has traveled throughout Europe thrice, I can say Much love for the E.U. (right back at you) The Europeans have many great ideas on how to treat and care for their own nations.

+OneZyzzBrah The real Americans are from Nicaragua.

+Reason1717 Sure. Just overlook Sweden, Germany, etc.

+I Shift Into Turbo Some right wing people find there socialism off putting. But there happiness rating world wide speaks to them doing many things right. I can not speak first hand to Sweden, but to Germany I can say it is a wonderful country.

I was born in the United States. I am a true real American too. Nothing you can say will change that. Did my ancestors come from somewhere else? Sure. Most people's ancestors did, including the "Indians".

amen to that I'm of Nigerian descent(British) this made me sad. It's disgusting how they are treated in their country

I'm Native American Indian and I'm proud OMG keep the dam name thank you my voice is heard I don't care who I offend.

Why?

I agree. The team’s name is finally being changed. Yay!

No. Just EQUAL rights my brother. Flipping things over and the others are oppressed and Indians never wanted that. Our ancestors welcomed the settlers here with open arms, to live alongside them as brothers. We would be dishonoring our ancestors if we wished to oppressed and think of ourselves as having a higher place. Mother earth is to share and care for, not conquer.

español hablante Lol. What fools. I can’t wait till the keep erasing stuff till even the name “Native” has to go. Because it will be offensive to “non natives”. Just wait.

What rights don’t y’all have?

Seana McDuffie I view this video and this mascot issue as a way for the Native American community to bring their more serious issues to the forefront. The whole video was showcasing their lives and only at the end was the mascot mentioned. The mascot, in a way, is representing not only a football team, but the very modern plight of the Native People. They have been struggling and fighting for a better life since they were removed from their homes, and they continue to do so to this day. And only until they started fighting against a team mascot, was the conversation created on a larger scale.

Seana McDuffie Really, because if I remember correctly the name was actually created by George Preston Marshall to recognize his coach,William Henry Dietz, Native American heritage. The problem was Dietz was not Native American, and only claimed to be so that he could avoid going to World War I. But the Redskins were once named the Braves, which also was a Native American name. Also, in terms of Native population opinions. Most polls done on reservations have found that a majority of Native Americans find the name offensive. I myself have Native blood, over 50% according to a test done on our family. BUT, we did not live in a reservation, even though I spent a lot of time there during my childhood. But many Native Americans who live on a reservation have opinions of those who claim to have "Native blood" and have never lived there. So it's very hard to say I have Native blood, because when I talk to people online and they talk about how their grandma is Cherokee, you click on their Facebook page and they are blond haired and blue eyed. We should be polling those on a reservation, and those polls generally say that most that live on reservations find the name offensive. Now if you also ask them how much they care, it's also low because they have more pressing issues. But this is still something that can be changed and should be changed.

martyc909 I didn't say team name I said logo

What I was trying to say was, that the mascot is not the actual issue. It is just the platform they are using to bring the REAL issues and problems that Native Peoples continue to face to the forefront. They have always been fighting to bring awareness and change for themselves and it never got any genuine air time on national media sources.....until now. Until they started fighting against this NFL team. It seems to be a tactic that is doing a good job at bringing the Native Americans problems to the main stream. People across the board are talking about it. Regardless if they watch football or not. The mascot is not the actual issue for them, it is just, like I said, the platform to get peoples attention. Now they have it, they are starting to talk about the poverty and other problems that are plaguing the Native Americans. This whole commerical was about the people. About the lives of these beautiful people. Not about the mascot. They threw it in there at the end because...well that is the what is bringing about the attention.

Seana McDuffie I have actually argued that the imagery the Redskins use is actually not bad. It's the name. Now Cleveland Indians, that's just wrong on all levels. But if the Redskins were still the Braves, I wouldn't complain at all, because naming a team Braves would be like calling a team Knighs. But the name itself has to go.

Siksika Blackfoot! Proud warrior woman!

Im mvskoke creek

Anishinaabe, plains...change the fuckin name✊

Diné

I'm Atikamekw The indigenous of Canada we have 11 nations of The natives

V Hase cause their fucking haters and racist punk motherfuckers. lol

T Dizzay LOL ya u right

+Myrtle Joyce Lagarita No I'm talking about the video. The video is great. If you dislike this video that means one of two things. Your racist or support the redskin team logo child. My question was why would you dislike the video.

+V Hase Racism is still strong here...

I was born here. That makes me a Native American.

@@zdwade native americans are native to American land, theyre indigenous. When the Eurpoeans came and claimed their land many were raped by Europeans. Thats why many of us today have small percentages of native american. Being born here doesn't make you native American. In the modern world many of us are a product of raped Native American ancestors from hundreds of years ago.

@@zdwade Many Native Americans today live in their own communities, struggling to keep their tradition alive. Your comment is just straight up ignorant

zdwade your native if your family were raped, murdered, and forced into the Rez. Your native if your family survived colonization, your native if the great spirit, the creator, blesses you for all the hate we had to endure

@@zdwade no, being born here doesn't make you Native American...you can be born here and be Asian...lol there IS a difference between Native and born!

Yeah! Totally! A second genocide of the native people is in the works right now! And you blindly clap for it! Expunging native american imagery from mainstream sports! Pretty soon it will all be wiped out! Congratulations on your major victory social justice warior #14129

@@motorheadbanger90 That’s... that’s not how genocide works.

@@kissfan7 I can see you don't understand the point i'm making....

@@motorheadbanger90 I really don't.

Frances Rumbletart This 'phony issue' is a result of a very real issue, the one you're so passionately reminding us of. There's literally no logical reason not to raise awareness about the many facets of the issue, the many faces of racism. This kind of 'subtle' injustice is what embeds itself into the minds of our people and our youth and makes it easier for them to accept the injustices on their reservations and in their homes. This is merely a piece to a larger puzzle. There will always be non-ethnic people who simply watch this and feel good for watching it. Share it and feel like they've done their job. But for every ten who stop there, a few will remember in the voting booths, in the streets when they see the injustice thrust in their faces. We shouldn't ignore or avoid messages as seemingly small as these because they don't fix a problem so much bigger than most of us feel capable of conquering. It's a part of the battle, you have to learn how to work the system. If the best you can hope for out of some people is to share this a dozen times so someone who actually has a soul does something more, then you go for it. You sadly cannot force everyone to change. It is worth it to hope for any influence, however small. The more things like this are brought up, the more people will be receptive to larger, more important messages.

turbokiera Where did you grow up to be so smart, young man? Also, I live in Indiana, so this issue touches very close to home for me (the state was named after you people.) Bless your heart & ride like the wind, Tonto! LOL (Sorry I'm a little tipsy from the Superbowl today. Did you see it? I don't want to spoil it for you but the Seahawks probably won.)

I don't think it's my place as someone who is only about a 1/16th Cherokee, to respond to most of that, other than thank you for the compliment, and I am a young woman. Profile picture is just of an artist.

turbokiera Did you watch the SuperBowl?

Gwen Lanter No, I don't care for sports. But I have a facebook so, I definitely had play by play updates lol.

What have you done that would make him proud? I mean no disrespect. Some in my family claim we are decended from Lief Erikson. If I met him he'd be in awe on how soft I am and the luxuries I complain about.

@W Refrigerators I don't tell Native Americans how to feel either. Dummy 😂

Well since a native American was the one that made the logo I'm confused on how anyone can call it offensive.

@@A11Bravo A native American does not speak for the whole, and that native American did not "design" the logo. He (Walter Wetzel) merely suggested to use the the imagery of the buffalo nickel. So you are not wrong in that sense. But his own people (Blackfeet, Niitsitapi) even at that time were apposed to the use of that imagery. The toing and froing of a name change has been an ongoing legal battle for at least over 40 years. Edit: also, I'm not suggesting you're wrong or right on this matter and neither suggesting this imagery is racist or not. I take more exception to the term "redskin".

@W Refrigerators so are you dummy 😂

You mean like how people who aren't Native Americans told you to be offended in the first place and you listened? The logo of the Redskins was designed by an Indian Chief. Would he design something for a team he felt was insulting him? "Redskin" was a term Amerindians themselves invented.

@@squiggletree5080 Uhhhh idk if you know who posted this video but I'm pretty sure they want it changed dude

+Hiwa Joe thanks, few people talk about history of Norther Africa ..

+Hiwa Joe Wow! I would love to know more about your people!

Teresa Easley eww thanks that's nice ^_^

Hahaha!

WTF has that got to do with racism? If anything it is born out of ignorance, as you pointed out, of the history of the region. There is nothing racist about it. That would be equivalent of someone from San Francisco calling someone who uses the word Frisco when referring to the city racist because he doesn't like the name the person's using. Give me a break FFS and lose the chips on your shoulders...

Yep that was a dark day for a lot of die hard Redskins fans

I know sucks huh bunch of angry snowflakes ❄️

@@regular2124 - those angry snowflakes are obviously stronger and tougher than you. Sorry.

Mike Beckett The Imp™ When Columbus was trying to sail west to reach Asia, he landed east of the Americas. Then when he saw natives, he called them Indians because he thought he landed in India. That's where the word Indian comes from. Yea, I don't like being called Indian but I remember some racist person called me a Redskin. I felt like punching him.

I'm just proud. I don't care what anyone says to me

Mike Beckett The Imp™ oh yea people call me a "Savage"

Yep. I'm Native American

Alex Jones Oh no, I already figured that out. No, You just opened my eyes a little and made me think about what the Natives went (and are still) going through.

Why

Ken Truck watch the video

Next they might try to change name Kansas City Chief’s

Ken Truck oh no, are we even a country anymore if that happens? That sad “where does it end?” argument is so played out. The answer is somewhere, it ends somewhere.

William Condon ok last time I check, Indian guy came up with the name

Wow. That won't help a single Native American rise out of poverty. But it will make whites feel good about themselves for 'caring'.

This needs more responses

I agree. Good comment.

YAYYYY!! CREEEEE!!!!

The word has been proved to originate as an honor name American Indians called themselves originally. BEYOND ALL DOUBT.

@one It's a learned craving for victimhood. Very sad.

@one I lived in Taos, NM for 5 years, and spent a bit of time around the Taos Pueblo tribe, and everyone I ever heard refer to himself called himself an "Indian". A great many of them were proud Washington Redskins fans... but that's all been taken away from them now. BY DO-GOODERS. A bunch of meddling DO-GOODERS!

how can the name be "certainly" offensive, the the mascot not be? the mascot/logo is referred to as a redskin.

sean burns exactly - you are looking at what it is being "referred to as" a/k/a the NAME. The logo, IN AND OF ITSELF, is not offensive - it is simply a picture of an Indian. The name is what makes it offensive...

So what about the Cowboys?

Cody Bowman What is wrong with a star? Typical foreskin fan with penis envy.

Cody Bowman I sincerely hope you're joking... A cowboy does not reference a race at all. It's an occupation. That was a terrible comparison.

I used to sit in sweats with First Peoples on the Res. They referred to themselves as the Red Man (in the global sense) and talked about walking the Red Road, honoring their traditions.

Yep sadly my Washington Redskins are now dead and now it's the Washington football team.....boo

I'd like to see it played during the Superbowl. I mean, Seahawks & Broncos don't need to do Redface.

That's a great idea. It may be cost-prohibitive though and the NFL may not agree to it.

I know I'm white and I want this to play so bad. It would be great. Maybe we could all just share it though. The internet is powerful.