Proxxon 24106 KT230 için boşluksuz hareket somunu yapımı (making anti-backlash Nut)

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Proxxon 24106 KT230 koordinat sehpası içinde bulunan standart hareket somunlarında boşluk oluşmakta. bu durum detaylı frezelemede hatalara sebep olmaktadır. Bunu bertaraf etmek içinde ekteki videoda anlattığım şekilde nasıl boşluksuz somun yapılabileceğini anlattım.
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@goktugvensurel2097 6 ай бұрын

Merhaba; Elinize sağlık ... Ancak biraz teknik bilgiler ile süsleseydiniz videonuzu daha özendirici olabilirdi ... Örneğin; merkezleme aparatı kullanılması konusunda, ya da orijinal parça ile karşılaştırmalı anlatsaydınız yaptığıız yeni gereci çok daha doyurucu olmaz mıydı diye düşünüyorum ... Yine de teşekkür ederim emeğinize ...

@bayisikli9325 6 ай бұрын

Tesekkur. Bunu yaparken biraz acemiydim. Bir daha ki videoya dediklerinizi tutmaya calisirim. Eyvallah

@serjkwaksha3654 4 ай бұрын

Dear Sir! Your videos show that it is possible to make anti-backlash nuts with excellent performance. Unfortunately, it is not possible to use these results, because you did not provide drawings of such a nut (by the way, it is better to make it from bronze). But the most important thing is the absence of spring parameters, without which the whole device loses its meaning. Measuring these parameters under different loads requires considerable time and appropriate tools. At the same time, your video is certainly useful with its idea.

@bayisikli9325 4 ай бұрын

Hi. It was an amateur production. But sure i estimated spring power to get a desireable result. I have no calculations of spring and other strengts on this project.

@keremgunsoy3010 2 жыл бұрын

Çok faydalı olmuş.

@stockstergates4061 2 жыл бұрын

use the dewalt df680 to feed the cross table and free your hand and more precise.

@stockstergates4061 2 жыл бұрын

well done, excellet!

@bastian6173 11 күн бұрын

Hello! Nice work. Did you use your upgraded table much? How is the anti backlash nut working? Are you satisfied with the results? Thanks and have a good day

@willnggg1981 10 ай бұрын

amazing 🎉🎉🎉 Great job!

@bayisikli9325 10 ай бұрын

🙂🙂🙂👍

@kubilayyavas2577 2 жыл бұрын

çok güzel teşekkürler benzerini benim proxxon MF70 freze koordinat sehbasına yapmak istiyorum somunu silindirik ve küçük ama denemeye değer :) cnc de büyük sıkıntılar çıkıyor hassas işlerde umarım sorunuma çözüm olur. tekrar teşekkürler

@bayisikli9325 2 жыл бұрын

Sen de saol. Kolay gelsin

@serjkwaksha3654 4 ай бұрын

Hello sir! In order for the nuts to work without play under different loads, a certain spring stiffness is required. I would like to ask you, how did you select them?

@bayisikli9325 4 ай бұрын

Hello. Yes correct. Trial and error method. And also you should also choose appropriate length for spring. There should be a corelation between length and power of spring

@JADAR62 Жыл бұрын

Hello. What miling tools are you using. Proxxon has chuck with capacity 3 mm, but I see you are using bigger diameter. Thx for info.

@bayisikli9325 Жыл бұрын

Hello. İ use proxxon ff230

@bayisikli9325 Жыл бұрын

And this upgrade is for coordinate table of ff230

@JADAR62 Жыл бұрын

Ok, all clear. 2500 rpms are sufficient for small diameter tools?

@bayisikli9325 Жыл бұрын

İ use 2500 rpm rarely. But yes it is appropriate for small diameter cutters. İ use generally 500-1000 for bigger 8 or 10 mm cutter

@kubilayyavas2577 Жыл бұрын

ff230 aldım aynı projeden yapmak istiyorum mümkünse eğer çizimleri, ölçüleri paylaşabilirmisiniz :)

@bayisikli9325 Жыл бұрын

Selamlar. Gule gule kullan makinayi. Emege saygi kapsaminda bir bedeli olmali cizimlerin 🙂

@omeryesilyurt2216 2 жыл бұрын

usta 20 20 de kullandigin yuzey tarama basligini nerden aldin, banadabitane lazim

@bayisikli9325 2 жыл бұрын

Selam. Özel yaptırdım

@serjkwaksha3654 4 ай бұрын

Hi! It's no big deal. I've already written to Proxxon. Maybe they will give values for the ultimate lateral forces on the cutter and then the spring parameter can be easily determined. As the backlash nut is being made, I have another question. The nut sits in the narrow channel of the carriage, so its cut part can only move along the channel and cannot rotate. So why make complicated cutouts in both parts of the nut if the cut part will move only along the main screw and the two guide screws?

@bayisikli9325 4 ай бұрын

I made cutouts in order to decrease backlash to 0.000 or 0.001 mm. 2 screws holes were made only to keep the parts together (2 brass part, 2 springs).

@bastian6173 11 күн бұрын

Hello! Have you ever heard back from Proxxon? The KT230 seems like a great tool, but the backlash is really its biggest flaw, although you can sort of "work around it" but it takes a bit more concentration. Even when say sliding Y back and forth, the X axis wiggles lose and actually moves by a fraction of an inch. So better to keep an eye on the X handle while sliding Y axis as going through material. It's really a bit frustrating. Have you been able to find a solution?

@bastian6173 11 күн бұрын

Other than , the backlash seems about .11 to .12 milimeters according to the handle. Meaning 0.115 mm of "looseness" until the table moves into the opposite direction

@serjkwaksha3654 11 күн бұрын

@@bastian6173 Yes, I was getting a response from Proxxon. They were not original and suggested I buy the more expensive (and more accurate) Feinfräse FF 500/BL model, with a KT400 cross table.

@bastian6173 11 күн бұрын

@@serjkwaksha3654 Lol. Doesn't the KT 400 also have a backlash problem? At least in the video of Mr Uphoff, it seems like it... I'm tempted to build the spring nut solution of the video creator (in bronze as you suggested) but I'm not sure yet I really understood what you guys discussed regarding the spring. What's the worst that could happen if I select a spring too strong or too loose? Thanks a lot for your reply!

@EugenBadau 7 ай бұрын

Degeaba pui roti si volan de Mercedes sau BMW la un Trabant ca tot Trabant ramine. Pacat de lucrul asta calificat -si bine facut- pentru rahatul ala de aluminiu /si foarte scump/ cu ifse de mare firma . Toate produsele lor [proxxon ]trebuie imbunatatite??

@bayisikli9325 7 ай бұрын

poate va fi mai bine sa imbunatatesti. am avut nevoie

@BebegosAspectOfBabyFlight 7 ай бұрын

Bu freze proxxon ff230 mu?

@bayisikli9325 7 ай бұрын

Evet

@lukakarson2075 Жыл бұрын

Hello, thank you ! I have a question! Did you replace the Chuck on the machine ??? how did you put the other Cartridge >28:20 ? and how did you install the big router > 20:15 ? Thanks for the reply!

@bayisikli9325 Жыл бұрын

The mount diameter is 10mm for ff230. And you can use proxxon 24110 attachment to change drills quickly. İ hope it is revert for your question

@lukakarson2075 Жыл бұрын

Hello! I understood this!! Yes, I don’t have this self-tightening cartridge yet !! But where did you get the 10mm bit shank?

@bayisikli9325 Жыл бұрын

@@lukakarson2075 10mm bit shank is standart specification on proxxon ff230

@lukakarson2075 Жыл бұрын

My friend ! the proxon has no such tip 👉20:18 of the milling cutter!@@bayisikli9325

@bayisikli9325 Жыл бұрын

İ ordered it from a local tool maker. İt is special production