Great point about only being able to configure from a PS5. These days controllers are expected to be able to be fully usable on PC, and especially with Sony bringing first party games to Steam, configuration from PC should be standard. I bought three Dual Sense controllers (I don't know why) and ALL of them have drift.

I forget who it was that was talking about the locking mechanism, but they explained there are some gaming tournaments that only allow wired controllers. If the controller is unplugged, even accidentally, the player gets disqualified. So the locking mechanism prevents that from happening.

Your video edits, and fun comedy cuts, are a treat. This channel deserves far more attention.

I wish they would make a PS5 controller with a better D-pad, more colors options, and more stick choices. Overall it looks good but its to high of a price point. Great Video Bob thanks for making a really good and thorough review.

The reason your elite series 2 gets misaligned and seems like it needs to be a two handed job for you (4:26) is because you’re supposed to pull that soft liner off of the magnetic base altogether. It’s only placed there for shipping to protect the prongs, otherwise it should be completely removed. I have 3 elite series 2s and I just throw them on the docks and they line up perfectly every time. Alternatively you don’t NEED to keep the magnetic base inside the zippered pouch either. I just keep the bases on my tv stand and throw them on when I’m done playing. This way I don’t have to open a case every time. I get it if you want to protect your controller but to me it just adds more clutter to the stand that I’d rather not have. I think the charging base (and the internal battery) is one of the most underrated and unappreciated features of the elite series 2. I just pick up a controller it’s always fully charged and ready to go. The batteries last way longer than I’ll ever be playing so that has been one of my favorite features. Now that I’ve had my elites for years I cant go back to not having 4 back buttons either. I’m so used to using the back buttons that I rarely even use the face buttons anymore. Not having 4 on the PS controller seems like a big missed opportunity, even my steam deck has 4 back buttons. Hope this helps.

The Rage Racer track... The nostalgia just came flooding in. Good sh*t bro. Salute.

Great production value on your videos, I like the simplicity of your editing too

DSX has a beta up now that has Edge support! You can remap not only the paddles but the Fn buttons as well

A point for your review. If you connect the controller to the ps5 on usb. You are still using Bluetooth connection to play. You only use the cable connection if you go to options and change the connection to USB

Battery life is what's stopping me from getting this controller. Everything else seems fantastic.

always love seeing a wulff den upload at the end of a long day :-D

Imagine if the big brands start using hall effect sticks and the replaceable sticks would be useless. It adds very little to the cost of production and makes the controllers last significantly longer. Unfortunately that will probably never happen because Sony and Microsoft want you to buy new controllers every year.

On the Dualsense Edge those function button's are absolutely for configuring your profiles and mapping the paddles.

You can also use Steam to change the Elite Controller's back buttons, then it's changing based on the game you play and not the profile on the controller. Maybe there will be an update to enable doing that with the Edge.

That massive screen casually playing black and white GB Tetris in the background is neat! Gargoyle’s Quest would really look brilliant running in that cabinet! I don’t have a PS5, my current lifestyle just couldn’t accommodate massive consoles like that. Great Stuff, as always.

I'm curious about what price point this controller will be on a future Black Friday or Amazon Prime Day, etc. If this was at least $50 cheaper, it would be a much more appealing option (I'll use the cash I save for driftless sticks and some sort of attached battery pack).

There's actually multiple third-party companies for the PS5 controller including Scuf, Battle Beaver, Hex gaming, Aim, ect I actually own a few of them, there really good. Also people have been testing the battery and it can actually hold 6 to 7 hours depending on your playstyle.

I’ve gotten so used to 4 back buttons with my Aimcontrollers that I can’t go down to 2. That along with the longer travel for the “hair trigger” setting of the triggers makes this a pass for me.

Quick watch and comment before he removes it

2:33 Just wanna say that if u plan on taking this controller to tournaments, having your controller disconnect is an automatic point for your opponent. Having this lock is pretty rad ngl

Thanks for the video Wolf. I would want to get the ccontroller for the integration with the UI of the PS5. Also I play A LOT of the Souls games so it would be nice to have a controller where i could put O and Square on back paddle buttons. I use my 8BitDo Pro 2 controller for Elden Ring and DS3 on my PC and wish I could use it on PS5. TBH, controllers like this, the TURBO function is what i am really after. I hate having to rapidly press a button for firing of a weapon or picking stuff up.

I bought a black dualsense and modded it with that back attachment, games like destiny and other shooters with high jumps generate the necessity of good aerial aim so it was a first day required commodity

That grip joke was the funniest thing I've ever seen.

The only thing I can think of with the cable is to help with tripping over it, but again then something like the magsafe would be much better. I still remember playing Lego Dimensions (yes, I was one of those people) and tripping over the cable while the gamepad was connected to my PS4. The USB end snapped and I had to go to support and request a new gamepad, as you can’t replace just the cable end. Now that I could see having one of those locking mechanisms for!

I like what I see outta the Dualsense Edge, but $200 dollars feels a little steep for a few things (specifically the connector housing) that I wouldn't end up using. I love seeing the swappable sticks that combat stick drift though, hope that becomes an industry standard. Would love to see a second row of back buttons only because I use those specifically in FPS's. I think if Playstation did what Xbox does with their Design Labs, it would help justify paying so much money for a lot of people. As always great job on the video Bob!

Great video 💪🏾, what video game is being featured in the video??

Is there a reason you didn’t mention or compare the PS5 controller from Scuf? I feel like their digital triggers, grips and 4 paddles makes it a more “pro” feeling controller

Ridge Racer OST is just epic. The Moment I heard it, goosebumps. Bob did you ever play a RR game? I like RR2 on the PSP. And RR7 on the PS3.

My right back paddle didn't work right out of the box. Customer support didn't want to pay for shipping, so I disassembled the edge controller to see what was going on. Simple fix though. Screws weren't evenly tightened.

I'd rather they all use sticks that do not ever need replacement than to engineer everything to have replaceable ones. But also, lol if it only gets 4 hours of battery. That means Xbox Elite and Switch Pro controllers get a MINIMUM of TEN TIMES the battery life. I've never measured, but my Elite controller feels like it gets closer to 80 hours than the supposed 40 in the specs. For anybody that thinks it's not significant: you are putting 10 times the number of cycles on that DualSense battery, so it will need replacement much, much sooner.

I feel like I’m doing these videos a disservice by not drinking a warm cup of coffee in a library while watching them and I don’t drink coffee

Someone please explain the point of having multiple colors for side plates and controllers, and them in stuff like this and the official charging station, they only come in white?

I’m on my THIRD ps5 controller. The stick drift issues are very real. The swappable modules alone make this worth my money but also I require back paddles and play on ps5 so it’s a win for me

I'm hoping they do release a revision with 4 back paddles. I have found myself using all 4 in most games I play, and it is really the only thing holding me back on this controller. Knowing how many ps only players exist though, it's a great step forward to have an option for them as well :)

Great videos wulf, thank you man!

so glad i watched this to be honest. Was about to go pick mine up from best buy but going to hold off until i can access mappings without a ps5 itself. thank you

Fun fact. All 4 extra buttons on the Dualsense Edge are completely remappable through steams built in input remapper. (only on a per game basis though)

0:05 Silver Stream from Rage Racer. Nice BGM choice, Bob!

I have Xbox and PS5 so I’ve spent a few months with an Elite Series 2 and just picked up the DS Edge. There is no question that the Elite feels “elite”. It’s very premium, from the triggers to the grips, d-pad, and thumbsticks. The buttons are also “clicky” like all Xbox controllers. I only use 2 of the back paddles and even then, I find myself accidentally pressing them because they sit flush against the grip. Apart from that, love the Elite. The Dualsense has an option of two bumpers if you don’t want to use the paddles, and I love them. No more accidental presses. The trigger stops do have a little more give, even on the shortest setting, than the Elite. Not a deal breaker for me. I love the customization settings being built into the PS5 as I have no plans to use the controller on a PC. I do wish that the additional sticks included weren’t all dome. There is no swappable d-pad option like on the Elite. Great to know you can swap out the thumbsticks components if you ever needed to, but that’s a feature I hope to never need. Still, it’s the best controller for PS5. Worth $200? No. This thing should’ve been priced around $140. Just not enough value given the lowered battery life, no real upgrade tot he texture, and use of same plastic components as on a regular Dualsense.

Your videos are always a pleasure to watch.

I have a dualsense edge and I love it. I'm a console only player so I have a ps5 and when being a ps5 owner it's nice being able to change button mapping in a menu on the console so I can easily see what is mapped to what. And the battery life is closer to 6-8 hours for me.

I always watch your videos even though I only have a nintendo switch lite, idk it's soothing. I would like to see a video with cute controllers, like, which kawaii controller is the best technically, because you always sacrifice aesthetics for quality.

I'd like it if they had like a volta connector part way through as a breakaway magsafe cable, hate that volta is only usb2, but it has other tips so I have them in all my old controllers so I don't have to worry about the ports going bad

Great review and comparison. Totally fair and informative. Also, hilarious. Thank you!

Anything over 100 is too much imo, the Core went on sale for like 80 bucks in my country, I picked it up and got those back padels with some longer sticks off eBay for 20 bucks, its essentially an Elite 2 for 100, it cannot get better than this, but for some reasons it does not feel as good as the Astro C40

I still use my Wii U pro controller on pc. Going strong 10 years, still 80 hour battery life

The cable lock is for Fishing simulator ultimate edition. It comes with a winch that you plug to a PS5 for ultimate haptic feedback.

Gamer Heaven tested the wired Vs wireless polling rate and he did actually find a difference. There were some quirks with his testing, as you said the Edge isn't friends with the PC right now, but what he found was worthwhile.

Have you got your hands on the razor one yet? Waiting for your review

3:40 THIS. Most of my roommates are into Smash Bros and all of them have wired GameCube controllers that get left around. So many switches and controllers have come crashing to the ground.

many people use pro controllers as accessibility devices, and say you have nerve damage, muscle issues or missing fingers, 4 paddles is a really great option for working around that. I found the cable lock made an already top heavy controller, more top heavy. my suspicion is that because the battery life is lower, they maybe use the cable lock as a psychological block to keep them more likely to keep it plugged in.

Nice choice for intro music, rage racer OST is full of bangers. Here in Brazil the dual sense edge launch has been delayed 🫠

12:45 but if you want to, you can buy a modification to make them actually separate (and it is really good, I use that for playing tekken)

15:50 literally this controller is sitting next to me on the charger lol

When I got the original elite, I was blown away at the quality compared to the default Xbox controller. But I don't think that will happen if I get the edge. The default sense controllers already have great quality and feel to begin with. Does the edge feel noticeable better in the hands?

RIDGE RACER MUSIC at the start :)

They gotta make a black, green, or blue Dualsense edge and then I’d consider it

On a note about drift, I've had my Joycons for longer and used them a lot more than my Dualsense controller. But my Dualsense is the one that has drift problems. So much so that I went ahead and bought a new one. In context, I bought my PS5 to play GT7, and I play that with a steering wheel. I've only really played Returnal and Spiderman, so it's a very small amount of usage to begin having drift issues. In contrast, I completed Zelda BotW with all the shrines, I got about 60% of all the moons in Mario Odyssey, I completed 3 pokedex, I shiny hunted a bunch of pokemon, and I have about 100 hours into my village in animal crossing. All of that with the original joycon and I still have no drift issues.

What keyboard do u use it was shown a little bit in the beginning?

Wulff's obviously never been to Tekken weeklies. And you's forgots to cover the front Fn buttons under the joysticks! thx for the show tho! ;D

Both my regular DualSense controllers the D-pad became overly mushy very quickly. All I want is a Playstation layout controller as far as the sticks go, but with a good quality floating D-Pad (exactly like a Sega Saturn one).

It's definitely to support the C cable port. A tripped cable will always have a negative effect on the porch it's plugged into. Breakaway or not. That Port will become damaged long before the cable will. I've seen plenty of ports that become damaged to the point of being unable to charge the controller.

Lmfao "The Omega Stem" I busted out laughing 🤣🤣🤣

I don't mind the price, but a part of me wishes that it had that little lcd panel they put on that ds4 add-on. that way people could reprogram the back buttons without the need of any kind of software. although that would probably annihilate the battery even more.

Damn! What game are you playing at 2:58? Fishing simulator?

You can remap the back paddles and the fn buttons to other buttons using steam input now

Great review

Wolf testing the control playing Hifi Rush instead of something like forspoken is unintentionally funny.

Sony pointing you to a website for re-mapping the back paddles makes me think they'll have more options in the future. (maybe a program on pc or an app?)

The cable lock is probably for professional reasons. A cable disconnect will pause the game, and it's an auto lose of the round in a fighting game tournament for example.

I think of it when all features incl. back buttons works on the steam deck.

Hopefully Astro will release a PS5 compatible version of the C40 at some point. I picked one of those up for my ps4 and never touched a first party ps4 controller after that. It not only has the replaceable thumbsticks, but the thumbstick and d-pad positions can be flipped around to make it a more xbox style controller (or even some abomination where both sticks are on the left side of the controller), plus the sticks can be recalibrated for minor stick drift instead of replacing them. If they could upgrade it to have the four back triggers like the xbox elite that would be great as well

If you make profiles on the PS5, can you switch them with the function buttons while on PC?

Immediate thumbs up just for using Silver Stream from Rage Racer in the intro 🙏

as someone who plays exclusively on PC wired with my DualSense, taking advantage of the features in games like Death Stranding, Ghostwire Tokyo or more recently Season: A letter to the Future, I gotta say not being able to customize the back buttons on PC is a major oversight, especially considering things like Steam Input made haptics and adaptive triggers not work. The controller ends up in a weird place where it could be dope for PC, but the lack of customization, color options and disabling of adaptive triggers when using trigger stops kind of defeat the purpose to me. Would rather use an other controller at that point. I ended up just slapping some thumb grips on my pink DualSense for comfort and that's going to do it for me. Considering I already own a Series, Switch Pro and wireless SNES controller, I just fail to see a use case where the DualSense edge would actually benefit me sadly.

It works with steam now. I was able to configure the back prattle for SF6

I'm actually even more glad I learned soldering when I got seriously into game collecting 7 years ago. Dismantling consoles and controllers is no longer daunting, and replacing potentiometers on drifting sticks has become a really trivial task at this point. In fact, the way I've been getting controllers for cheap nowadays is through cleaning/repairing/refurbishing stick drift controllers from ebay. Got a dualsense last year for only £20. The stick drift didn't even require soldering for repairing the faulty potentiometer, just a cleanup.

Plan on testing the NYXI controller?

What is the setup for the tiny screen in the background? Whats the video source?

Imo the Xbox elite is way better: the magnetic thumb sticks and varying heights are really cool. Also the dpad on the PlayStation controller is super overdue for a rework. Xbox’s new dpad is a big win!

I've had an Xbox Elite controller 2 for about 3 years now and the two bumpers have basically completely failed at this point. They both press in and about 90% of the time they get stuck and I have to manually pull them back out to their neutral position. The sort of like grip wrap around on the two handholds has also like deteriorated and the glue holding them on has lost its hold I guess. 3 years seems like good long while for a controller to hold out, but I think it's important to put into consideration the long term build quality when deciding to buy something that's sold at a HUGE premium.

I do enjoy a premium style controller for playing a third person narrative game. Everyone talking like these controllers only make a difference in first person shooters or other high-pace games, but in my opinion, the customizable options and especially the back buttons do make a big difference in feeling your gameplay experience feel smoother in any kind of game. Ever since I tried the back-button attachment for the PS4 I've felt an incredible relief and have had a smoother, more fluent experience by remapping buttons in a way that doesn't interfere with moving the camera. For example, jumping, dodging, interacting (like picking up collectibles while walking or especially running)... That's why I bought the DaulSense Edge, and I also have an Elite series 2 controller, which I bought on sale. I agree that the price is quite high and kinda absurd, but I do love my DualSense Edge after trying it on Ghost of Tsushima and Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order, and I can't stress enough how fluent the gameplay experience becomes with one of these controllers even from a somewhat casual perspective.

You forgot to mention, there are only two additional back buttons (as opposed to other elite/pro versions having four) 🤷🏻‍♂️

Hmmm, DSX looks handy. Been using DS4Windows since forever and it works great with a DualShock. I don't necessarily want to drop DS4 support (even if I don't use a DS4 currently), does DSX support it?

Have the Elite Series 2 for my PC gaming, will probably get this for my PS5 down the line. Debt, Laptop, Larger Case (NV7 or EVO XL), 1400W PSU, 4090, PS5 Pro, DualSense Edge, in that order.

at 2:25 aren't those juste w USB-A cables ?? That doesn't look at all like a USB-C plug

I wish they’d allow people to map the back buttons to a button combination. Like, left paddle being L2+R2 and right paddle being R2+L2. I don’t get why none of these premium controllers do this.

Personally, I like the symmetrical sticks a lot more than lopsided ones. This could be because I grew up with Playstation consoles, but it just feels more natural to me.

So the reason that lock is there for the cable is that Dualsense controllers can be used in wired mode - meaning you're not worried about interference or delay when playing competitive games. The lock is there cos if you're playing this, and it gets ripped out your game is done for

Having a Elite 2 controller, battery life seems like a massive miss. Idk what it's rated at but I feel like I get incredible battery life where I rare charge it.

As someone who owns the aforementioned “pink one” this is a tough sell. In pink though? I’d spend double.

Bro that was a solid idea for the cable not being able to pull out. Omfg I remember how bad the ps4 controller was with that shitty cable that kept falling out, or kept turning on and off. This is amazing!

The cable lock is overkill, the USB A unplung before the C using a normal cable. I love tumb stick down because I can use the index finger on the d-pad

You didn’t test the Battery, I have it and after 4 and a half hour it shows you need to charge it but it goes around almost 2 hours more to a total of 6 hours and 42 minutes for me. It’s a good battery after all, if you also have the charging base then you are set.

Can you map the buttons and use that config on a PC? This tiny battery is kind of nogo.

Anyone know of another 3rd party controller like the PS5 EDGE? I'm more interested in the switchable trigger press thingies. So I can swap from squishy triggers for driving games, to "button" like triggers for more action-y games.

I'm mainly a PC gamer that uses an xbox elite series 2 controller but I recently got a ps5 and so far have not adjusted well at all to the controller. I was hoping this might be a solution but honestly the Elite looks better to me in every way and it's hard to justify the price if it's not going to make the Dual Sense more comfortable to use and the thumbsticks and triggers are problems when you spend a lot of hours in sessions that are trigger based. I desperately want to love the Dual Sense. The features and haptics are thoughtful but it's just not comfortable to me right now. I'm hoping more time with it changes that but I'm disappointed if this is what Sony's version of a pro controller is going to be. Hopefully, it doesn't take them another several years to release an updated version.

The swapping sticks is a win for me. I have 2 elite controllers with stick drift. Also the you van over click ps5 controllers and Xbox controller are locked to over clocking. Also DSX has updated to remap the rear buttons.

That intro song was fire

My first dualsense had drift, credit to them they did replace it. Now THAT has drift. It is SO minor that I haven't had to replace it but, maybe the EDGE will be what I replace it with.